How long can ‘Super’ realistically stretch out the 10 year time gap?
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Re: How long can ‘Super’ realistically stretch out the 10 year time gap?
They can still do a hell of a lot of shit in the 10 year gap. The progression of arcs in Dragon Ball may seem long to us, but in-universe they can take place over a short period of time. I mean, the Majin Boo arc, the longest arc in all of Dragon Ball, took place in one day. And with how much material has been laid out to be potentially explored with the introduction of multiple universes, Dragon Ball Super could do a hell of lot more stories with the time that is has available. But I can't deny that the Universal Survival arc does have this "last hurrah" kind of feeling, with the monumental stakes at hand and the incredibly huge cast being used.
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For sure it feels like everything modern DB has been building up too, futher backed by Goku's UI form, even something as what some people thought was a pointless story at the time, Resurrection F is being played in this arc.Lord Beerus wrote:They can still do a hell of a lot of shit in the 10 year gap. The progression of arcs in Dragon Ball may seem long to us, but in-universe they can take place over a short period of time. I mean, the Majin Boo arc, the longest arc in all of Dragon Ball, took place in one day. And with how much material has been laid out to be potentially explored with the introduction of multiple universes, Dragon Ball Super could do a hell of lot more stories with the time that is has available. But I can't deny that the Universal Survival arc does have this "last hurrah" kind of feeling, with the monumental stakes at hand and the incredibly huge cast being used.
I am interested in where they go from here.
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I'm curious if we are going to see the universes that did not participate in the tournament, the gods of those universes seem unfazed by Jiren.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:I am interested in where they go from here.
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MaskedRider wrote:I'm curious if we are going to see the universes that did not participate in the tournament, the gods of those universes seem unfazed by Jiren.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:I am interested in where they go from here.
I think we definitely will eventually. It would kind of be weird to say and there are even stronger Universes and then ignore them.
Goku does need stronger and stronger opponents after all!
Re: How long can ‘Super’ realistically stretch out the 10 year time gap?
It did not take place in one day...Lord Beerus wrote:...I mean, the Majin Boo arc, the longest arc in all of Dragon Ball, took place in one day.
Re: How long can ‘Super’ realistically stretch out the 10 year time gap?
Super can “realistically” stretch out the 10-year time skip as much as they want. There isn’t much to these stories at all. Most of these stories happen within a few days unless there’s a long timeskip like in Resurrection F. As long as they keep in line with Bulma not seeing Gokuh in five years, they could do a lot. Gokuh went solo training on his own (presumably after the Tournament of Power) unless his solo training was with Whis and Vegeta was too busy on the earth with Trunks and Bra. The Golden Freeza Arc, 6th Universe Arc, and Future Trunks Arc all happen within the same year. It’s safe to say the series could do more than one event in Age 780, 781, 782, 783, and even 784 before the Tenkaichi Budoukai. I don’t see them doing theee events each year because that would be a lot of content but they would be okay with me. But, Toyotarou said they’re working towards the ending of the manga so I don’t think they’re gonna have a lot of events like three a year or more.
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Yes, it did.Meshack wrote:It did not take place in one day...Lord Beerus wrote:...I mean, the Majin Boo arc, the longest arc in all of Dragon Ball, took place in one day.
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No, it didn't. There are a lot of passage of time throughout Majin Buu saga. Please be careful whenever you talk about time.Lord Beerus wrote:Yes, it did.
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Shit. I completely forgot about that. I knew that Majin Boo wiped out a lot of humanity when Goku initially left after their skirmish, but I totally forget about how long it took him to do it.Grimlock wrote:No, it didn't. There are a lot of passage of time throughout Majin Buu saga. Please be careful whenever you talk about time.Lord Beerus wrote:Yes, it did.
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I personally feel what Toyotarou said is open to interpretation: "preparing the ground" for Super to reach the End of Dragon Ball Z (how I understood it anyhow) means that he is ensuring that what is being depicted doesn't at all jeopardize contradicting the epilogue.Meshack wrote:Toyotarou said they’re working towards the ending of the manga so I don’t think they’re gonna have a lot of events like three a year or more.
I say this, as before he made that statement he said " Of course, the story has to end like the original, in a coherent and natural way, so at least you know that, without a doubt, Goku, Vegeta and the others will survive."
He never gave any indication that himself or Toriyama-Sensei were writing now or getting ready to write Super's ending to fit into EoZ immediately. No time frame was mentioned, besides, I doubt very much Toei/Toriyama or Shueisha would be too happy with him revealing confidential information during an overseas comic con Q&A - not to mention the fact that this would be a huge reveal.
This said, I feel Super can stay in this 10yr gap for as long as it wants - Toei & Bandai Namco will want this to go on for years to come, especially if it keeps selling merchandise the way it has been up to now.
The BoG and "F" movies were placed on the timeline before Super was even thought about, and Toriyama-Sensei already confirmed that they were both continuations of the manga, so it could be that he was spacing things out incase they wanted to make more movies, but now they've lead into a Series, that changes the pacing of things in a big way.
I don't want them to go passed EoZ, as I feel an epilogue is an epilogue, and Toriyama-Sensei wanted to end things that way. It is up to himself and or Toei if they want to go further, if they do, then they do, but I don't see Goku at all being relegated.
The big thing for me is GT - throwing that into the mix just creates a huge mess, and although it is a side story, it is placed on the timeline. Though it seems with these god transformations, that Super Saiyan 4 may as well be retconned.
With the best part of 4 years on the timeline empty, I would be shocked to see them reaching the EoZ any time soon. It is making too much money for all parties involved, and money talks.
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Re: How long can ‘Super’ realistically stretch out the 10 year time gap?
Honestly I hope this is the last arc before they go to the endofz and beyond. They already stretched it far enough with this time period imo
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Where and when? What is your source? What was communicated exactly?Meshack wrote: But, Toyotarou said they’re working towards the ending of the manga so I don’t think they’re gonna have a lot of events like three a year or more.
I don't agree. There's still so much to be explored.Ilikepictures-meh wrote:Honestly I hope this is the last arc before they go to the endofz and beyond. They already stretched it far enough with this time period imo
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I guess you didn’t read what I said entirely.DBZ_Lee wrote:I personally feel what Toyotarou said is open to interpretation: "preparing the ground" for Super to reach the End of Dragon Ball Z (how I understood it anyhow) means that he is ensuring that what is being depicted doesn't at all jeopardize contradicting the epilogue.Meshack wrote:Toyotarou said they’re working towards the ending of the manga so I don’t think they’re gonna have a lot of events like three a year or more.
I say this, as before he made that statement he said " Of course, the story has to end like the original, in a coherent and natural way, so at least you know that, without a doubt, Goku, Vegeta and the others will survive."
He never gave any indication that himself or Toriyama-Sensei were writing now or getting ready to write Super's ending to fit into EoZ immediately. No time frame was mentioned, besides, I doubt very much Toei/Toriyama or Shueisha would be too happy with him revealing confidential information during an overseas comic con Q&A - not to mention the fact that this would be a huge reveal.
This said, I feel Super can stay in this 10yr gap for as long as it wants - Toei & Bandai Namco will want this to go on for years to come, especially if it keeps selling merchandise the way it has been up to now.
The BoG and "F" movies were placed on the timeline before Super was even thought about, and Toriyama-Sensei already confirmed that they were both continuations of the manga, so it could be that he was spacing things out incase they wanted to make more movies, but now they've lead into a Series, that changes the pacing of things in a big way.
I don't want them to go passed EoZ, as I feel an epilogue is an epilogue, and Toriyama-Sensei wanted to end things that way. It is up to himself and or Toei if they want to go further, if they do, then they do, but I don't see Goku at all being relegated.
The big thing for me is GT - throwing that into the mix just creates a huge mess, and although it is a side story, it is placed on the timeline. Though it seems with these god transformations, that Super Saiyan 4 may as well be retconned.
With the best part of 4 years on the timeline empty, I would be shocked to see them reaching the EoZ any time soon. It is making too much money for all parties involved, and money talks.
They don’t care about GT. It’s apparent by the Hakaishin, Kaiohshin, Angels, 12 universes, Zenoh, Super Saiyan God transformations, Kibito Kaiohshin separating back into Shin and Kibito, the Super Dragon Balls, and other stuff. GT had its time to shine but it ended when it ended. Super is a money machine and is better overall.
I didn’t say they’re in a rush to get to the ending of the manga. It’s clear they aren’t since THREE EVENTS HAPPENED IN THE SAME YEAR. Toyotarou said they must reach the ending of the manga. Again, wasn’t saying they were in a rush to get there. The series can still make money after the 28th Tenkaichi Budoukai. It’s all because of Gokuh, of course, so it will still sell.
Read the interview again: https://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/6 ... re_of_dbs/
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https://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/6 ... re_of_dbs/sangofe wrote:Where and when? What is your source? What was communicated exactly?Meshack wrote: But, Toyotarou said they’re working towards the ending of the manga so I don’t think they’re gonna have a lot of events like three a year or more.
I don't agree. There's still so much to be explored.Ilikepictures-meh wrote:Honestly I hope this is the last arc before they go to the endofz and beyond. They already stretched it far enough with this time period imo
He said they must reach the ending of the manga.
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He doesn't say they're working on the ending now. He just writers Dragon Ball Super needs to at one time get there. Not how or when.Meshack wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/6 ... re_of_dbs/sangofe wrote:Where and when? What is your source? What was communicated exactly?Meshack wrote: But, Toyotarou said they’re working towards the ending of the manga so I don’t think they’re gonna have a lot of events like three a year or more.
I don't agree. There's still so much to be explored.Ilikepictures-meh wrote:Honestly I hope this is the last arc before they go to the endofz and beyond. They already stretched it far enough with this time period imo
He said they must reach the ending of the manga.
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I didn’t say he said he was working on it now... Stop reachingsangofe wrote:He doesn't say they're working on the ending now. He just writers Dragon Ball Super needs to at one time get there. Not how or when.Meshack wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/6 ... re_of_dbs/sangofe wrote:
Where and when? What is your source? What was communicated exactly?
I don't agree. There's still so much to be explored.
He said they must reach the ending of the manga.
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Re: How long can ‘Super’ realistically stretch out the 10 year time gap?
Super is stretching 48 mins into 20+ episodes....
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Reaching? Not sure what you mean by that? https://www.google.no/search?q=definiti ... e&ie=UTF-8Meshack wrote:I didn’t say he said he was working on it now... Stop reachingsangofe wrote:He doesn't say they're working on the ending now. He just writers Dragon Ball Super needs to at one time get there. Not how or when.Meshack wrote: https://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/6 ... re_of_dbs/
He said they must reach the ending of the manga.
I didn't really understand what you were trying to communicate earlier, but now I know.
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Starting out pre-EoZ was a mistake, one they stubbornly refuse to fix and don't fucking tell me everyone's too old if you go after EoZ. Goku's not even physhically over 40 in EoZ and they setup the whole Saiyan's not aging until they're 80 plot point meaning Vegeta's got more then enough time left in the tank too. Fuck, you can't even tell me the Earthling's are too old because Roshi was older then Christ in DB and he fights just fine!
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Re: How long can ‘Super’ realistically stretch out the 10 year time gap?
Toriyama said it is because he feels they are at their prime during this time. He also said he drew Bulma and Kulilin old after the Tenkaichi Budoukai. It’s mainly because he thinks they’re are their prime.ekrolo2 wrote:Starting out pre-EoZ was a mistake, one they stubbornly refuse to fix and don't fucking tell me everyone's too old if you go after EoZ. Goku's not even physhically over 40 in EoZ and they setup the whole Saiyan's not aging until they're 80 plot point meaning Vegeta's got more then enough time left in the tank too. Fuck, you can't even tell me the Earthling's are too old because Roshi was older then Christ in DB and he fights just fine!
It’s not a mistake to place it before the Tenkaichi Budoukai. They’re a huge time gap and you could do some manu things during that time.