First of all no one said Z was perfect, if you find someone please let me know, second of allBoo Machine wrote:Super hasn't done anything nearly as silly as your scenario. Not even close to it.
Yes it would be weird. Because raditz, even way back at the start of Z, was a worse fighter than either Goku or Piccolo. The only reason he dominated then was because his number was bigger and that's it. If Raditz came back NOW and was still no better than he was prior only to fight Blue Goku and hold his own, then THAT would actual break this Precious power scale some of you cling to like some kind of security blanket. That is the over the top situation that people make up to throw against super but hasn't actually happened yet.
In these cases, 17 is probably the only one you have any kind of point with, because they don't say what he did very well. Even then off screen training is still an explanation. A cheap one, but they didn't make 17 the exact same as he was prior only to fight Goku now like with your Raditz scenario. And it's no cheaper than the Hyperbolic time chamber. "Hey remember when the time chamber totally always existed and no one brought it up until now?"Future Trunks get curbstomped by base black, do no training, then proceed to tack on SSJR Black
#17 do God knows what being a park ranger, punching poachers and now he's God tier
Krillin bought some gym weights and so is strong enough to give Gohan trouble
It now turns out Beerus must've used 0.1% of his power when fighting SSJG Goku
Future Trunks didn't just do no training then tackled Black. He did training with Vegeta (yes it counts) then He got one kick in. Then stopped fighting Black. Rage is dumb, but again, that's the reasonsing for how he does later. But that transformation not being explained is the only slight against it.
Krillin gives Gohan trouble because Gohan didn't take Krillin seriously and he used his skills and wit to, not beat him up, but knock him out of bounds. That was the entire point of that showing. To show how arrogant Gohan was being and how Krillin isn't just some push over like everyone thinks he is. You act like he completely smoked a full power Gohan.
Yeah. Beerus was holding back when he fought Goku. He admits this. Whis admits this. I don't know how much more they can spell it out for you.
They tell you this stuff. It's not concrete numbers and formulas but they do give reasoning. Whether you accept those reasonings is a different matter entirely. Its not the shows fault if you don't though.
Z is better. I agree. But don't pretend that the show didn't weasel it's way out of explaining bullshit to us. Bullshit that if it happened today, you'd be pissed, judging from your points.
Some of my personal favorites.
Why does absorbing 17 and 18 make Cell so much more powerful than any other character to the point that Vegeta, who was toying with his second form, is unable to even damage Cell without his most powerful attack?
- How did a human scientist create multiple beings in a lab that were more powerful than Super Saiyans, despite not having data on what a Super Saiyan even was?
- How do Goku and Vegeta become Super Saiyan 2?
-How does Gotenks become Super Saiyan 3?
- Why does Gohan's potential keep changing to match the needs of the arc?
- Why did Supreme Kai not even know what a Potara earring was?
- How does Majin Buu's absorption work, exactly? Both the mechanics behind it and why Gohan and SSJ3 Gotenks couldn't just blast the goo off themselves
- How did Ultimate Gohan fail to catch a Potara earring thrown by Goku when SSJ1 Gohan was catching point blank machine gun fire earlier in the arc?
- How does a Zenkai determine how much power someone gets? Why are some minuscule and some gigantic?
-Why was Cell able to regenerate a new head after Goku blew his head off if he needs the cells in his head to regenerate?
And no. I'm not "Shitting on the original to make Super look better". I don't care which looks better. You can like GT best for all I care. It's got merits. I do care when people pretend one or the other is something it isn't and am being honest with how dumb and silly either series can be.
Z has It's stupid moments, where in Super it's far more prevalent and egregious, which is why it bothered me. Hell most of your problems with Z has to do with the Buu arc, which many recognize to be the least well written aspect of Z.
