The 1 year anniversary of Episode 66

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The 1 year anniversary of Episode 66

Post by Dragon Ball Gus » Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:47 pm

One year ago today, one of the most controversial episodes of Dragon Ball Super aired in Japan. That episode was Super Episode 66. You know, the episode with the Goku vs Zamasu beam struggle, Vegetto (for 10 minutes), and the Genki-Dama Sword scene. That episode. And on this thread, we're gonna be I guess "celebrating" it's 1 year anniversary.
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Re: The 1 year anniversary of Episode 66

Post by Xeogran » Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:59 pm

That was SUPER hype. Like the most hype DBS episode has ever been.

I never thought I could ever witness a new Vegetto episode live (I wasn't even born at the time of his first appearance :lol: )

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Re: The 1 year anniversary of Episode 66

Post by Asura » Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:33 pm

Dragon Ball Gus wrote:One year ago today, one of the most controversial episodes of Dragon Ball Super aired in Japan.
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Re: The 1 year anniversary of Episode 66

Post by Kanassa » Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:38 pm

Ah, so many good memories of such a entertaining episode.
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Re: The 1 year anniversary of Episode 66

Post by ekrolo2 » Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:41 pm

*Gets Nam flashbacks to the writing of it*

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Re: The 1 year anniversary of Episode 66

Post by Simere » Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:57 pm

The day fusion was sentenced to death. :thumbup:

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Re: The 1 year anniversary of Episode 66

Post by Krillin1994 » Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:02 pm

Whilst I would enjoy consistent power scaling, if something is entertaining I am willing to allow power discrepancies

Trunks slicing Zamasu was hype.

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Re: The 1 year anniversary of Episode 66

Post by Kanious » Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:28 pm

That was the episode i most enjoyed in DBS. I was watching it live without subtitles, and my heart raced a lot. First i was disappointed by Vegetto defusing, but Trunks just made the episode look great.

Also, yesterday on CN Brazil it aired the last episodes from the Black/Zamasu arc dubbed in Portuguese, and it was cool to watch it again.

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Re: The 1 year anniversary of Episode 66

Post by Faisal Shourov » Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:39 pm

Zeno erasing Future Trunks timeline was a very powerful scene, it's the first time something tragic happened that was irreversible. Possibly the first arc where there's no happy ending at all, everything was in vain.

Like or hate, Future Trunks arc is very unique for Dragon Ball. Heroes don't always prevail
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Re: The 1 year anniversary of Episode 66

Post by VegettoEX » Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:39 pm

Individuals expressing their dislike of a scene with poorly-written forum and social media posts generally consisting of the word "asspull" over and over does not actually make something "controversial".

Blue being portrayed as a pedophile is "controversial". Popo in blackface speaking in fractured sentences is "controversial".

"I don't like the energy sword" does not a controversy make.
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Re: The 1 year anniversary of Episode 66

Post by Torturephile » Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:46 pm

Probably one of the greatest examples of a "turn off your brain and enjoy" episode.
From Super episode 113 thread:
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Re: The 1 year anniversary of Episode 66

Post by sintzu » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:17 am

It wasn't the greatest thing logic wise but its production overall was really good. I wish we would've gotten more Vegetto though.
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Re: The 1 year anniversary of Episode 66

Post by Asura » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:18 am

VegettoEX wrote:Individuals expressing their dislike of a scene with poorly-written forum and social media posts generally consisting of the word "asspull" over and over does not actually make something "controversial".

Blue being portrayed as a pedophile is "controversial". Popo in blackface speaking in fractured sentences is "controversial".

"I don't like the energy sword" does not a controversy make.
Okay wait, how does one even portray an inanimate thing like a Super Saiyan transformation as a pedophile? I don't... huh?

Anyhow, "I don't like the energy sword" is very much oversimplifying it. The reason it's controversial is because from a writing stand point, it makes absolutely no sense, and felt like hardcore fanservice to try and write themselves out of a corner. That's one view. The other view is from people who don't care about how nonsensical the episode, or that scene in particular, is. Instead, they enjoy the episode and the spirit sword because quite frankly, it looked pretty fucking cool, and gives the win to Trunks, a character who has been losing literally all his life no matter how hard he tries (at least he wins until episode 67, where he loses harder than he's ever lost before.) It's the significance behind the scene and what it all culminates in, not the writing. There's also the whole controversy (yes, it's definitely a controversy) regarding the retcon of Vegetto.

These two different view points of the episode, and the scene, is where the controversy stems from.

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Re: The 1 year anniversary of Episode 66

Post by GodVegetto91 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:32 am

I believe i speak for all of us when i say that we expected more of SSJ Blue Vegetto. And these expectations were sadly not delivered. Omni-King blowing up the entire timeline was freaking cool though!

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Re: The 1 year anniversary of Episode 66

Post by GodVegetto91 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:36 am

Asura wrote:
VegettoEX wrote:Individuals expressing their dislike of a scene with poorly-written forum and social media posts generally consisting of the word "asspull" over and over does not actually make something "controversial".

Blue being portrayed as a pedophile is "controversial". Popo in blackface speaking in fractured sentences is "controversial".

"I don't like the energy sword" does not a controversy make.
Okay wait, how does one even portray an inanimate thing like a Super Saiyan transformation as a pedophile? I don't... huh?

Anyhow, "I don't like the energy sword" is very much oversimplifying it. The reason it's controversial is because from a writing stand point, it makes absolutely no sense, and felt like hardcore fanservice to try and write themselves out of a corner. That's one view. The other view is from people who don't care about how nonsensical the episode, or that scene in particular, is. Instead, they enjoy the episode and the spirit sword because quite frankly, it looked pretty fucking cool, and gives the win to Trunks, a character who has been losing literally all his life no matter how hard he tries (at least he wins until episode 67, where he loses harder than he's ever lost before.) It's the significance behind the scene and what it all culminates in, not the writing. There's also the whole controversy (yes, it's definitely a controversy) regarding the retcon of Vegetto.

These two different view points of the episode, and the scene, is where the controversy stems from.
I think he's talking about General Blue from the Red Ribbon Army arc. He should perhaps have clarified that better. I immediately assumed he was talking about SSJ Blue aswell. Because hey! Blue! That word can usually mean only one thing! In Super at least.

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Re: The 1 year anniversary of Episode 66

Post by Torturephile » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:56 am

GodVegetto91 wrote:
Asura wrote:
VegettoEX wrote:Individuals expressing their dislike of a scene with poorly-written forum and social media posts generally consisting of the word "asspull" over and over does not actually make something "controversial".

Blue being portrayed as a pedophile is "controversial". Popo in blackface speaking in fractured sentences is "controversial".

"I don't like the energy sword" does not a controversy make.
Okay wait, how does one even portray an inanimate thing like a Super Saiyan transformation as a pedophile? I don't... huh?
I think he's talking about General Blue from the Red Ribbon Army arc. He should perhaps have clarified that better. I immediately assumed he was talking about SSJ Blue aswell. Because hey! Blue! That word can usually mean only one thing! In Super at least.
That got a chuckle out of me. Admittedly, I was also fooled by his wording at first.
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Re: The 1 year anniversary of Episode 66

Post by Asura » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:05 am

GodVegetto91 wrote:
Asura wrote:
VegettoEX wrote:Individuals expressing their dislike of a scene with poorly-written forum and social media posts generally consisting of the word "asspull" over and over does not actually make something "controversial".

Blue being portrayed as a pedophile is "controversial". Popo in blackface speaking in fractured sentences is "controversial".

"I don't like the energy sword" does not a controversy make.
Okay wait, how does one even portray an inanimate thing like a Super Saiyan transformation as a pedophile? I don't... huh?

Anyhow, "I don't like the energy sword" is very much oversimplifying it. The reason it's controversial is because from a writing stand point, it makes absolutely no sense, and felt like hardcore fanservice to try and write themselves out of a corner. That's one view. The other view is from people who don't care about how nonsensical the episode, or that scene in particular, is. Instead, they enjoy the episode and the spirit sword because quite frankly, it looked pretty fucking cool, and gives the win to Trunks, a character who has been losing literally all his life no matter how hard he tries (at least he wins until episode 67, where he loses harder than he's ever lost before.) It's the significance behind the scene and what it all culminates in, not the writing. There's also the whole controversy (yes, it's definitely a controversy) regarding the retcon of Vegetto.

These two different view points of the episode, and the scene, is where the controversy stems from.
I think he's talking about General Blue from the Red Ribbon Army arc. He should perhaps have clarified that better. I immediately assumed he was talking about SSJ Blue aswell. Because hey! Blue! That word can usually mean only one thing! In Super at least.
Oooooooo okay that makes a lot more sense. :lol:

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Re: The 1 year anniversary of Episode 66

Post by Xeogran » Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:16 am

Now for the few things I actually disliked about this ep that nobody talks about:

Vegetto's Sword Beam without the classy SFX from Z era just isn't the same.

Vegetto Blue didn't feel to be dominating the fight, even though he should. His Manga presence felt much more powerful.

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Re: The 1 year anniversary of Episode 66

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:35 am

GodVegetto91 wrote:I believe i speak for all of us when i say that we expected more of SSJ Blue Vegetto. And these expectations were sadly not delivered. Omni-King blowing up the entire timeline was freaking cool though!
Eh, I was kind of glad really. Giving the Potara time limit, had Vegetto overpowered Zamasu and only lost 'cuz hey timed/energied out then it makes feel worse, like Vegetto would have won if not for the time limit. Whereas what we got the time limit didn't matter in the end since Vegetto never really had the upperhand.

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