Will Beerus Start Training after this Arc?
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Will Beerus Start Training after this Arc?
Do you think Beerus or other gods will start training after this arc? Even if Zeno isn't actually erasing everything, they are now aware that there are mortals who are around or beyond the point of being a god of destruction. They also now know that Zeno could hold tournaments in the future and erase the weakest universes at any time. This is a big incentive for the gods to train themselves, as well as start training mortals for future tournaments. Beerus is definitely intimidated by Goku reaching UI, so I think at least he will start training after this arc. I'd really like to see a full out training match with Beerus vs Whis, but I don't see it happening.
Also, do you think the other gods/angels train any of their mortals the way Whis does? Ribrianne's universe and her goddess seem to have a pretty close relationship, and it seems possible that Belmod may have trained Jiren at one point even if Jiren is now stronger than him.
Also, do you think the other gods/angels train any of their mortals the way Whis does? Ribrianne's universe and her goddess seem to have a pretty close relationship, and it seems possible that Belmod may have trained Jiren at one point even if Jiren is now stronger than him.
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That would require him to acknowledge Goku is better than him, a god, and that I don't see happening..
He won't train for the simple fact of being the present god alone, Goku is being trained to take over his job after all, no point in trying to stick to his old position..
He won't train for the simple fact of being the present god alone, Goku is being trained to take over his job after all, no point in trying to stick to his old position..
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Re: Will Beerus Start Training after this Arc?
Should he? Yes. If Beerus took the time to apply himself and master the Ultra Instinct ability Goku might never be able to catch up with him. Will he actually do so? Probably not. Toriyama seems to be finally coming around to the idea of Goku surpassing the Hakaishin. It's been a long time coming. If Beerus were to begin earnestly applying himself so as not to be overtaken then that idea would likely never come to fruition. The author has to intentionally limit his characters so as to allow a certain event or accomplishment to take place.
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Human levels have nothing to do with training. The human levels are based on the quality of he universes. What Beerus and Shin and the other Kaiohshin and Hakaishin need to do is develop their universes more. I don’t think the other Hakaishin have the Uktra Instinct technique because it seems like it is Beerus’s thing and the others have some other ability.
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Never mentioned the factor of 'mortal level' that is used to rank the tournament, if you would have read it you would see thatMeshack wrote:Human levels have nothing to do with training. The human levels are based on the quality of he universes. What Beerus and Shin and the other Kaiohshin and Hakaishin need to do is develop their universes more. I don’t think the other Hakaishin have the Uktra Instinct technique because it seems like it is Beerus’s thing and the others have some other ability.
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Will Beerus start training? Hmm, I don't think so. If he gets surpassed by Goku, so be it
Toyotarō: … I get the feeling I’ve just heard something amazing (laughs). Lord Beerus and Whis turn up in Dragon Ball Super, and have become an unsurpassable wall for Goku and the gang. What do the two of them mean to you?
Toriyama: Well… First off, right now I don’t have any plans for Goku and Vegeta to surpass Beerus and Whis.
Toriyama: Well… First off, right now I don’t have any plans for Goku and Vegeta to surpass Beerus and Whis.
Re: Will Beerus Start Training after this Arc?
Zenoh was only erasing because the mortal levels are so low and it has nothing to do with powerZagacious wrote:Never mentioned the factor of 'mortal level' that is used to rank the tournament, if you would have read it you would see thatMeshack wrote:Human levels have nothing to do with training. The human levels are based on the quality of he universes. What Beerus and Shin and the other Kaiohshin and Hakaishin need to do is develop their universes more. I don’t think the other Hakaishin have the Uktra Instinct technique because it seems like it is Beerus’s thing and the others have some other ability.
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Seeing people say that mortal level has nothing to do with strength at all is just ignorant.Meshack wrote:Zenoh was only erasing because the mortal levels are so low and it has nothing to do with powerZagacious wrote:Never mentioned the factor of 'mortal level' that is used to rank the tournament, if you would have read it you would see thatMeshack wrote:Human levels have nothing to do with training. The human levels are based on the quality of he universes. What Beerus and Shin and the other Kaiohshin and Hakaishin need to do is develop their universes more. I don’t think the other Hakaishin have the Uktra Instinct technique because it seems like it is Beerus’s thing and the others have some other ability.
The Supreme Kai for U1 and exempt Gods of Destruction have hinted several times that strength does play a part in calculating mortal level. Essentially saying that they’re not bad performances for having low mortal levels or even downplaying the fighting because of their mortal level.
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Even though strength does play a part, its not the most important factor, for example, the angel from universe 5 fretted about entering the tournament from the sidelines as she thought their universe would probably be eliminated in such a contest.TheOne wrote:Seeing people say that mortal level has nothing to do with strength at all is just ignorant.Meshack wrote:Zenoh was only erasing because the mortal levels are so low and it has nothing to do with powerZagacious wrote:
Never mentioned the factor of 'mortal level' that is used to rank the tournament, if you would have read it you would see that
The Supreme Kai for U1 and exempt Gods of Destructions have hinted serial times that strength does play a part in calculating mortal level.
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Yeah I agree that it’s not all about power, but these guys are saying it has nothing to do with it whatsoever. Which is completely false.JazzMazz wrote:Even though strength does play a part, its not the most important factor, for example, the angel from universe 5 fretted about entering the tournament from the sidelines as she thought their universe would probably be eliminated in such a contest.TheOne wrote:Seeing people say that mortal level has nothing to do with strength at all is just ignorant.Meshack wrote: Zenoh was only erasing because the mortal levels are so low and it has nothing to do with power
The Supreme Kai for U1 and exempt Gods of Destructions have hinted serial times that strength does play a part in calculating mortal level.
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I don’t think it has nothing but it’s not the sole factor. It’s not whats most talked about in regard to mortal levelsTheOne wrote:Yeah I agree that it’s not all about power, but these guys are saying it has nothing to do with it whatsoever. Which is completely false.JazzMazz wrote:Even though strength does play a part, its not the most important factor, for example, the angel from universe 5 fretted about entering the tournament from the sidelines as she thought their universe would probably be eliminated in such a contest.TheOne wrote:
Seeing people say that mortal level has nothing to do with strength at all is just ignorant.
The Supreme Kai for U1 and exempt Gods of Destructions have hinted serial times that strength does play a part in calculating mortal level.
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That, or he'll train, and when prompted about it just say that he was 'in the mood'. He'll never admit out loud that Goku is or potentially could be stronger, but he's not stupid, he'll certainly notice it himself, and, not liking that fact, try to do something about it.Ki Breaker wrote:That would require him to acknowledge Goku is better than him, a god, and that I don't see happening..
He won't train for the simple fact of being the present god alone, Goku is being trained to take over his job after all, no point in trying to stick to his old position..
Personally, I hope he does train, because I like Beerus, and want for him to remain a relevant powerhouse in the series.
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Beerus' whole point in searching out the Super Saiyan God was finding a worthy rival and a good challenge. If Goku catches up to or surpasses Beerus I think he will start training in earnest so that he doesn't fall behind.
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Someone talked about this some time ago and i agreed with him/her, so yes i guess he could start training but only if Goku surpass him.
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they never defined what mortal level means so we don't know. We know strength plays a factor but i'll say not that big of a factor in it
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Considering Goku has attained Ultra Instinct and is getting the hang of it, I think this will provide the incentive for Beerus to master the technique himself.
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If we go by the manga, we can deduce that the mortal level refers to the average strength of mortals, collectively, in every given universe. For example, Universe 7 might have the strongest fighters, but there's only a handful of them, while the rest of the universe is weak as shit. Hence, their mortal level is so low. Universe 1 might not actually have any individual fighters stronger than Jiren or Goku, but all together, the universe has a greater quantity of strong mortals than both Universe 7 or 11.jplaya2023 wrote:they never defined what mortal level means so we don't know. We know strength plays a factor but i'll say not that big of a factor in it
The balance between peace, creation, and destruction seems to play a role on the evolution of mortals in the universes, so when the kaioshin and Hakaishin work together, the mortal levels become greater. Unfortunately for universe 7, Beerus and Shin don't play nice.
On topic- I don't think Beerus will train. He may want to fight Goku again though.
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You literally said it had nothing to do with power...Meshack wrote:I don’t think it has nothing but it’s not the sole factor. It’s not whats most talked about in regard to mortal levelsTheOne wrote:Yeah I agree that it’s not all about power, but these guys are saying it has nothing to do with it whatsoever. Which is completely false.JazzMazz wrote: Even though strength does play a part, its not the most important factor, for example, the angel from universe 5 fretted about entering the tournament from the sidelines as she thought their universe would probably be eliminated in such a contest.
If that’s really how you feel, avoid using certain words please.
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He already has noticed it. He practically shits himself every time Goku goes Ultra Instinct.FubukiFoxx wrote:That, or he'll train, and when prompted about it just say that he was 'in the mood'. He'll never admit out loud that Goku is or potentially could be stronger, but he's not stupid, he'll certainly notice it himself, and, not liking that fact, try to do something about it.Ki Breaker wrote:That would require him to acknowledge Goku is better than him, a god, and that I don't see happening..
He won't train for the simple fact of being the present god alone, Goku is being trained to take over his job after all, no point in trying to stick to his old position..
Personally, I hope he does train, because I like Beerus, and want for him to remain a relevant powerhouse in the series.
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Well, I don't think the strength of a couple of individuals is also something that necessarily raises the level of a universe, for example Beerus makes a point that Goku is dragging the level of their universe down, though of course, this could just be him having a go at Goku for accusing him of destroying stuff randomly, though I do think it goes to show intellectual merit and standing is also of some importance when determining the level of a universe.TheOne wrote:You literally said it had nothing to do with power...Meshack wrote:I don’t think it has nothing but it’s not the sole factor. It’s not whats most talked about in regard to mortal levelsTheOne wrote:
Yeah I agree that it’s not all about power, but these guys are saying it has nothing to do with it whatsoever. Which is completely false.
If that’s really how you feel, avoid using certain words please.