Ultra Instinct should have been for Gohan

[Ki Breaker]

As much as I like Gohan, I wouldn’t want to see him surpassing Goku and Vegeta in this tournament. Super can still go on for long, so let him get back on tracks slowly.
He could go and train on Planet Sadala, and I would also like to see more of Piccolo finally training him into a true warrior.
Maybe in the future Gohan could become the master of Goten and Trunks. That would be a good parallel to his future counterpart, if he became Trunks’ master in the present too.

I just hope Gohan won’t be rushed in this arc. He should end the tournament with a good performance but not as the strongest warrior.
It seems like he is finally truly enjoying fighting and in episode 90 he had long-term plans.
How good would it be if Gohan became similar to Bruce Lee, in that he would start studying all kinds of techniques and Martial Arts, and release his studies on a book? He did something similar in Dragon Ball Online! That would finally give some meaning to the “Gohan likes to study” thing. In real life, many people study Martial Arts.

What would be a cool twist for gohan's character is him experimenting on martial arts moves and energy manipulation and coming up with ridiculous combination of techniques, new ways to mix up forms and ki control levels which makes him a incredibly hard to beat..
Fights for him will be more like a professor testing out his new inventions in the playground..

[TheShadowEmperor8055]

>UI is for those who dedicated their life to martial arts
>perfect for Gohan
???????????????????????

^This. Gohan may have the potential and power to reach greater heights, but he needs way more years of martial arts training. Like, actual martial arts, not just get stronger through anger. UI isn't just a power boost.

And the reasons they give for Gohan to get UI is just lame:

Below is from reddit user RS-Romante ,he makes very good points on why UI should have been gohans.

Gohan Vs Goku

Learns that he doesn't want to rely on transformations to get stronger, and deliberately is trying to find an alternate path to get stronger. (So from the get go, his intentions are to not rely on powering up to win.)

Gohan Vs Lavender

He blinds Gohan, causing Gohan to learn to not rely on his sights and reflexively react to what he feels around him.

Gohan vs Obuni

Realizes he needs to stop relying on both his vision AND what he feels. This fight should've brought him closer to naturally reacting to an opponent the moment an attack is thrown.
Gohan vs Hermila (U2 Sniper)

Mist blocks Gohan & Piccolo's vision, could've taught gohan more and more about reactively dodging each beam and not relying on his senses since he couldn't see OR detect the sniper.

The Appearance

I mean really, this transformation doesn't even change your hair color, it just seems perfect for Gohan.
Gohan doesn't have as many techniques as Goku, he doesn't have a spirit bomb or a kaioken to rely on. He doesn't have God form and he doesn't even WANT it. Of all the things, the perfect thing for him to learn is how to purely rely on his natural fighting ability & instincts.
Goku has kamehameha, spirit bomb, tons of transformations and fighting strategies that all revolve around concentration.
I know it makes sense, since Goku was dropped on his head as a baby which causes him to not be able to think like the average person, but come on.

Gohan Vs Goku

What does 'not relying on transformations' have to do with UI? Transforming or not transforming has never been brought up as an issue, but for some reason fans keep thinking Saiyans transforming is some kind of negative against them.

Gohan Vs Lavender

Characters not relying on their eyesight have been a thing since Dragon Ball, so why does Gohan deserve a cookie for doing this against Lavender? If it took Gohan this long to fight 'blind' when Goku was doing this when he was a teenage, this is a negative for Gohan.

Gohan vs Obuni

Gohan tanked and punch. Nothing about "stop relying on both his vision and what he feels". He was stronger than Obuni with Ultimate, so he took an attack and hit back. The Ginyu Force can do this.

As for Goku and Hermila, Gohan outright sucked and Piccolo lost his arms.


The Appearance

This is just shallow. Gohan doesn't have half of Goku's techniques and abilities because he doesn't train enough. Gohan's naturally battle instincts are way below several other characters as I mentioned before, yet he deserves UI before them because.....he's Gohan I guess.

Goku being dropped on his head has nothing to do with his fighting skills and this is just insulting to Goku. He got all those fighting skills because he freaking trained his entire life to get them. They weren't handed to him outside of him drinking poison water. UI is the culmination of everything Goku learned in his 40 years as a martial artists. A greenhorn like Gohan shouldn't get it just because of 'potential'

While I understand the OP's point in Ultra Instinct seeming like the "ultimate form that no one has seen before" that Gohan alluded to earlier, again, I agree with HeroR, Gohan needs a lot more martial arts training to train his body to instinctively move on its own. Which only Goku (and possibly Vegeta) have. I don't even think characters like Gohan, Future Trunks, or even Kafla can get UI so easily because again, while they are all stupidly powerful, they need way more time with martial arts and training their bodies to obtain UI. Again, UI isn't a mere power boost like SS2 or SS Rage.

I think Ultra Instinct is for those who have the power AND the martial arts training. EDIT: AND maybe God Ki. Gohan has the power, but not the training. Someone like Roshi probably has the years martial arts training, but not the power. Hell maybe even Hit and Freeza. Both have the power, but both at some point didn't feel the need to improve for a long time until they fought Goku, who has been training his entire life. But hey, just my speculative opinion.

[fadeddreams5]

>UI is for those who dedicated their life to martial arts
>perfect for Gohan
???????????????????????

Where at all in the series does it say UI is for those who have dedicated their lives to martial arts? Besides Goku and, possibly, Jiren, no mortal in any of the universes possess it. In fact, it's stated that even the gods have trouble mastering it. When Goku attains it, it's not because he learned it from years of hard work; first, he absorbs the energy from the spirit bomb and then he gets clocked by Kefla's energy. Both times, he's unable to maintain it.

Gohan would be a perfect candidate because his powers are a complete f'ing anomaly.

With that being said, Gohan is so boring in this series, I prefer Goku having it, just for being more interesting. If there was actual build up to Gohan becoming stronger, I'd welcome it, but so far, he's done nothing but follow Piccolo around and jerk off to his father's power.

[Kanious]

no, that woud kill DBS for me. Gohan doesn't deserve anything like that, as he doesn't even train with the gods. Things like UI, god ki and etc should be left for those who train with gods, and gods training isn't dancing, farting, and reading porn magazines to unlock "potential".

The one, besides Goku, who deserves the technique/form is Vegeta.

[Asura]

As huge a Gohan fan as I am, this would be an absolutely horrendous decision, especially to a character that now already has a history of receiving ass pull power-ups for no work required.

The only ones deserving of this technique are Goku, Vegeta, and Beerus since they've all trained under Whis.

[kinisking]

>UI is for those who dedicated their life to martial arts
>perfect for Gohan
???????????????????????

I love Gohan and this doesn't make sense to me either. I want him to get it eventually but not in the arc that's literally about him getting his fighting instincts back.

[Swarna]

He shouldn't get it because he hasn't been written to get it. Simple as that and all that needs to be said, really.

All the "he gets powers on a silver platter" counter-points/whining about Gohan, especially in comparison to Goku, are hilarious, though. Goku was shown to be well above and stronger than everyone around him since his first appearance and grew exponentially over the course of the first couple of chapters. He dicked on Yamcha and basically matched/surpass Roshi within 6 months. The baseline of power was much lower at the time, but relatively speaking, Goku was always super strong. And if you want to get really nit picky, depending on how you compare god strength to normal strength, much of Goku's current power is a result of 10 seconds of the power of friendship and holding hands from the first fight with Beerus, trumping any and all BS power boosts you could attribute to any other character in the series quantitatively speaking. The power boost-to-time/effort ratio is unmatched.

It's really a shame what's happened to Gohan's character in Super, though. I don't know what's worse, the original 7 year lapse in training, lazily written in to feasibly bring Goku back to the narrative forefront (which I'm not opposed to if done in a better way) that permanently damaged the characters image, or his new depiction in Super where he basically has no personal agency and just gets bossed around/constantly tutored by everyone around him. They do a lot of talking about Gohan in the show ("he makes a good captain", "he has the highest potential of us all", etc), seemingly as a nod to keep old Gohan fans watching but that's really all it is, talk. Even if any of that comes to fruition, it won't be believable at this point because of how he's been depicted so far. Gohan, like many other elements of the show, are just badly written.

Actually, the worst thing about Gohan is probably the way his head/face/hair is drawn. His hairline seems to recede further and his hair/head gets shorter/smaller every time we see him. He's never quite looked right in Super.

[Olympian]

He shouldn't get it because he hasn't been written to get it. Simple as that and all that needs to be said, really.

All the "he gets powers on a silver platter" counter-points/whining about Gohan, especially in comparison to Goku, are hilarious, though. Goku was shown to be well above and stronger than everyone around him since his first appearance and grew exponentially over the course of the first couple of chapters. He dicked on Yamcha and basically matched/surpass Roshi within 6 months. The baseline of power was much lower at the time, but relatively speaking, Goku was always super strong. And if you want to get really nit picky, depending on how you compare god strength to normal strength, much of Goku's current power is a result of 10 seconds of the power of friendship and holding hands from the first fight with Beerus, trumping any and all BS power boosts you could attribute to any other character in the series quantitatively speaking. The power boost-to-time/effort ratio is unmatched.

It's really a shame what's happened to Gohan's character in Super, though. I don't know what's worse, the original 7 year lapse in training, lazily written in to feasibly bring Goku back to the narrative forefront (which I'm not opposed to if done in a better way) that permanently damaged the characters image, or his new depiction in Super where he basically has no personal agency and just gets bossed around/constantly tutored by everyone around him. They do a lot of talking about Gohan in the show ("he makes a good captain", "he has the highest potential of us all", etc), seemingly as a nod to keep old Gohan fans watching but that's really all it is, talk. Even if any of that comes to fruition, it won't be believable at this point because of how he's been depicted so far. Gohan, like many other elements of the show, are just badly written.

Actually, the worst thing about Gohan is probably the way his head/face/hair is drawn. His hairline seems to recede further and his hair/head gets shorter/smaller every time we see him. He's never quite looked right in Super.

Yeah, not even nearly the same. Yamcha and Goku were fairly matched when they first met. Any advantage Goku had was a minor valuable. The rock.papers-scissors move that broke tha panel basically pissed Yamcha more into killing him and that last kick that took a tooth out hurt more Yamcha`s vanity and pride than a serious injury. Yamcha did conceed that fighting Goku would take too much time into stealing the Dragon Balls but later on when they found out Goku took the Ribbon Army he claims again something in the lines of "to think were were matched not that long ago". Likewise Goku`s awe of Roshi as Shun when he easily dodges Yamcha out of the ring simply because he had fought and took effort.

This Goku already had a level of formal training under Grandpa Gohan, the former star pupil of Roshi. Yamcha was a wanderer in the desert strangely adept at MA knowledge (he had even heard about the Kamehameha without having ever seen it before) with his own attack/style.

Gohan on the other hand already had the potential to be above his father and Piccolo, who were clearly stronger than the rest of the gang, simply by being a hybrid without any training whatsoever.

[majinwarman]

As huge a Gohan fan as I am, this would be an absolutely horrendous decision, especially to a character that now already has a history of receiving ass pull power-ups for no work required.

The only ones deserving of this technique are Goku, Vegeta, and Beerus since they've all trained under Whis.

I have to agree right now. There are many people making cases that Gohan is the true asspull master in Dragon Ball. If they try to give it to him now, then it will become like the Future Trunks arc. I believe that Super doesn't need another situation like that right now. This arc have been so strong and they don't need to ruin it now. Especially as we are almost at the end of the TOP. It will not good for the fans or show.

[Kaiosama]

>UI is for those who dedicated their life to martial arts
>perfect for Gohan
???????????????????????

Thank you!

Gohan is by far the less deserving of UI out of the fighters in the TOP. I would rather see Piccolo or even Tien get it since they're both dedicated martial artists who spent their lives training and perfecting their skills, while Gohan had most of his power given to him on a silver platter and he's extremely fickle with his training. Heck, Roshi is more worthy of UI, if he kept training after he retired in Dragon Ball since he's already an old master with a lot of battle experience compared to everyone outside of the gods and the angels.

And the reasons they give for Gohan to get UI is just lame:

Below is from reddit user RS-Romante ,he makes very good points on why UI should have been gohans.

Gohan Vs Goku

Learns that he doesn't want to rely on transformations to get stronger, and deliberately is trying to find an alternate path to get stronger. (So from the get go, his intentions are to not rely on powering up to win.)

Gohan Vs Lavender

He blinds Gohan, causing Gohan to learn to not rely on his sights and reflexively react to what he feels around him.

Gohan vs Obuni

Realizes he needs to stop relying on both his vision AND what he feels. This fight should've brought him closer to naturally reacting to an opponent the moment an attack is thrown.
Gohan vs Hermila (U2 Sniper)

Mist blocks Gohan & Piccolo's vision, could've taught gohan more and more about reactively dodging each beam and not relying on his senses since he couldn't see OR detect the sniper.

The Appearance

I mean really, this transformation doesn't even change your hair color, it just seems perfect for Gohan.
Gohan doesn't have as many techniques as Goku, he doesn't have a spirit bomb or a kaioken to rely on. He doesn't have God form and he doesn't even WANT it. Of all the things, the perfect thing for him to learn is how to purely rely on his natural fighting ability & instincts.
Goku has kamehameha, spirit bomb, tons of transformations and fighting strategies that all revolve around concentration.
I know it makes sense, since Goku was dropped on his head as a baby which causes him to not be able to think like the average person, but come on.

Gohan Vs Goku

What does 'not relying on transformations' have to do with UI? Transforming or not transforming has never been brought up as an issue, but for some reason fans keep thinking Saiyans transforming is some kind of negative against them.

Gohan Vs Lavender

Characters not relying on their eyesight have been a thing since Dragon Ball, so why does Gohan deserve a cookie for doing this against Lavender? If it took Gohan this long to fight 'blind' when Goku was doing this when he was a teenage, this is a negative for Gohan.

Gohan vs Obuni

Gohan tanked and punch. Nothing about "stop relying on both his vision and what he feels". He was stronger than Obuni with Ultimate, so he took an attack and hit back. The Ginyu Force can do this.

As for Goku and Hermila, Gohan outright sucked and Piccolo lost his arms.


The Appearance

This is just shallow. Gohan doesn't have half of Goku's techniques and abilities because he doesn't train enough. Gohan's naturally battle instincts are way below several other characters as I mentioned before, yet he deserves UI before them because.....he's Gohan I guess.

Goku being dropped on his head has nothing to do with his fighting skills and this is just insulting to Goku. He got all those fighting skills because he freaking trained his entire life to get them. They weren't handed to him outside of him drinking poison water. UI is the culmination of everything Goku learned in his 40 years as a martial artists. A greenhorn like Gohan shouldn't get it just because of 'potential'

I don't see why they wouldn't make Gohan stronger than Goku and Vegeta. They did it with Trunks in the anime.

[Kaiosama]

>UI is for those who dedicated their life to martial arts
>perfect for Gohan
???????????????????????

Thank you!

Gohan is by far the less deserving of UI out of the fighters in the TOP. I would rather see Piccolo or even Tien get it since they're both dedicated martial artists who spent their lives training and perfecting their skills, while Gohan had most of his power given to him on a silver platter and he's extremely fickle with his training. Heck, Roshi is more worthy of UI, if he kept training after he retired in Dragon Ball since he's already an old master with a lot of battle experience compared to everyone outside of the gods and the angels.

And the reasons they give for Gohan to get UI is just lame:

Below is from reddit user RS-Romante ,he makes very good points on why UI should have been gohans.

Gohan Vs Goku

Learns that he doesn't want to rely on transformations to get stronger, and deliberately is trying to find an alternate path to get stronger. (So from the get go, his intentions are to not rely on powering up to win.)

Gohan Vs Lavender

He blinds Gohan, causing Gohan to learn to not rely on his sights and reflexively react to what he feels around him.

Gohan vs Obuni

Realizes he needs to stop relying on both his vision AND what he feels. This fight should've brought him closer to naturally reacting to an opponent the moment an attack is thrown.
Gohan vs Hermila (U2 Sniper)

Mist blocks Gohan & Piccolo's vision, could've taught gohan more and more about reactively dodging each beam and not relying on his senses since he couldn't see OR detect the sniper.

The Appearance

I mean really, this transformation doesn't even change your hair color, it just seems perfect for Gohan.
Gohan doesn't have as many techniques as Goku, he doesn't have a spirit bomb or a kaioken to rely on. He doesn't have God form and he doesn't even WANT it. Of all the things, the perfect thing for him to learn is how to purely rely on his natural fighting ability & instincts.
Goku has kamehameha, spirit bomb, tons of transformations and fighting strategies that all revolve around concentration.
I know it makes sense, since Goku was dropped on his head as a baby which causes him to not be able to think like the average person, but come on.

Gohan Vs Goku

What does 'not relying on transformations' have to do with UI? Transforming or not transforming has never been brought up as an issue, but for some reason fans keep thinking Saiyans transforming is some kind of negative against them.

Gohan Vs Lavender

Characters not relying on their eyesight have been a thing since Dragon Ball, so why does Gohan deserve a cookie for doing this against Lavender? If it took Gohan this long to fight 'blind' when Goku was doing this when he was a teenage, this is a negative for Gohan.

Gohan vs Obuni

Gohan tanked and punch. Nothing about "stop relying on both his vision and what he feels". He was stronger than Obuni with Ultimate, so he took an attack and hit back. The Ginyu Force can do this.

As for Goku and Hermila, Gohan outright sucked and Piccolo lost his arms.


The Appearance

This is just shallow. Gohan doesn't have half of Goku's techniques and abilities because he doesn't train enough. Gohan's naturally battle instincts are way below several other characters as I mentioned before, yet he deserves UI before them because.....he's Gohan I guess.

Goku being dropped on his head has nothing to do with his fighting skills and this is just insulting to Goku. He got all those fighting skills because he freaking trained his entire life to get them. They weren't handed to him outside of him drinking poison water. UI is the culmination of everything Goku learned in his 40 years as a martial artists. A greenhorn like Gohan shouldn't get it just because of 'potential'

I don't see why they wouldn't make Gohan stronger than Goku and Vegeta. They did it with Trunks in the anime.

Both Gohan and Trunks are far more gifted than their fathers.

[Freeza9000]

Patience is a virtue, my peeps. Gohan is about to reveal his secret transformation into the legendary Gohan Blanco any moment now. There has already been subtle instances of foreshadowing of it already in the recruitment arc.

[JazzMazz]

Patience is a virtue, my peeps. Gohan is about to reveal his secret transformation into the legendary Gohan Blanco any moment now. There has already been subtle instances of foreshadowing of it already in the recruitment arc.

Freeza9000, more like Trolling9000.

In all seriousness though, this is a great joke post.

[Whatever]

>UI is for those who dedicated their life to martial arts
>perfect for Gohan
???????????????????????

Where at all in the series does it say UI is for those who have dedicated their lives to martial arts? Besides Goku and, possibly, Jiren, no mortal in any of the universes possess it. In fact, it's stated that even the gods have trouble mastering it. When Goku attains it, it's not because he learned it from years of hard work; first, he absorbs the energy from the spirit bomb and then he gets clocked by Kefla's energy. Both times, he's unable to maintain it.

Gohan would be a perfect candidate because his powers are a complete f'ing anomaly.

With that being said, Gohan is so boring in this series, I prefer Goku having it, just for being more interesting. If there was actual build up to Gohan becoming stronger, I'd welcome it, but so far, he's done nothing but follow Piccolo around and jerk off to his father's power.

The principle of UI is moving without thinking which is for the most skilled and dedicated martial artists,now don't get me wrong Goku got UI by dumb luck but he met the requirements for it.
But he got it sooner than the other Gods because Goku is so awesome/handsome/genius just like it took him only 3 days to catch Korrin while it took Roshi 3 years.

Freeza's power are a bigger anomaly than Gohan's if you want to give it to someone who does not deserve it.

If anything Gohan is a better character now since he tries to learn from his mistakes from Z,also Gohan in Z was a new character in every main arc.

[HeroR]

>UI is for those who dedicated their life to martial arts
>perfect for Gohan
???????????????????????

Where at all in the series does it say UI is for those who have dedicated their lives to martial arts? Besides Goku and, possibly, Jiren, no mortal in any of the universes possess it. In fact, it's stated that even the gods have trouble mastering it. When Goku attains it, it's not because he learned it from years of hard work; first, he absorbs the energy from the spirit bomb and then he gets clocked by Kefla's energy. Both times, he's unable to maintain it.

Gohan would be a perfect candidate because his powers are a complete f'ing anomaly.

With that being said, Gohan is so boring in this series, I prefer Goku having it, just for being more interesting. If there was actual build up to Gohan becoming stronger, I'd welcome it, but so far, he's done nothing but follow Piccolo around and jerk off to his father's power.

The principle of UI is moving without thinking which is for the most skilled and dedicated martial artists,now don't get me wrong Goku got UI by dumb luck but he met the requirements for it.
But he got it sooner than the other Gods because Goku is so awesome/handsome/genius just like it took him only 3 days to catch Korrin while it took Roshi 3 years.

Freeza's power are a bigger anomaly than Gohan's if you want to give it to someone who does not deserve it.

If anything Gohan is a better character now since he tries to learn from his mistakes from Z,also Gohan in Z was a new character in every main arc.

To add to this, Goku did not get UI from absorbing the Spirit Bomb as was explained in 110. He got UI from surviving the Spirit Bomb exploding on him. It was either break out of his shell, or be vaporized. As Herms explained it, it was the trauma that awoken Goku's power. The Spirit Bomb just refilled his stamina.

UI have nothing to do with power, so Gohan shouldn't get it based on is power being anomaly.

[fadeddreams5]

>UI is for those who dedicated their life to martial arts
>perfect for Gohan
???????????????????????

Where at all in the series does it say UI is for those who have dedicated their lives to martial arts? Besides Goku and, possibly, Jiren, no mortal in any of the universes possess it. In fact, it's stated that even the gods have trouble mastering it. When Goku attains it, it's not because he learned it from years of hard work; first, he absorbs the energy from the spirit bomb and then he gets clocked by Kefla's energy. Both times, he's unable to maintain it.

Gohan would be a perfect candidate because his powers are a complete f'ing anomaly.

With that being said, Gohan is so boring in this series, I prefer Goku having it, just for being more interesting. If there was actual build up to Gohan becoming stronger, I'd welcome it, but so far, he's done nothing but follow Piccolo around and jerk off to his father's power.

The principle of UI is moving without thinking which is for the most skilled and dedicated martial artists,now don't get me wrong Goku got UI by dumb luck but he met the requirements for it.
But he got it sooner than the other Gods because Goku is so awesome/handsome/genius just like it took him only 3 days to catch Korrin while it took Roshi 3 years.

Freeza's power are a bigger anomaly than Gohan's if you want to give it to someone who does not deserve it.

If anything Gohan is a better character now since he tries to learn from his mistakes from Z,also Gohan in Z was a new character in every main arc.

Can't argue that. Goku is a stud. He deserves UI.

As for Gohan, it took him 90 episodes to finally act on his words of trying to learn from his mistakes, and he's been unbearably dull throughout. I know some fans found him boring in DBZ, but I thought he was great in every arc, and besides the missing gap between the android and Cell Games arc, felt he developed better than most characters in the series. I loved his evolution, up until the Buu saga, where they started that trend of him not training.

Where at all in the series does it say UI is for those who have dedicated their lives to martial arts? Besides Goku and, possibly, Jiren, no mortal in any of the universes possess it. In fact, it's stated that even the gods have trouble mastering it. When Goku attains it, it's not because he learned it from years of hard work; first, he absorbs the energy from the spirit bomb and then he gets clocked by Kefla's energy. Both times, he's unable to maintain it.

Gohan would be a perfect candidate because his powers are a complete f'ing anomaly.

With that being said, Gohan is so boring in this series, I prefer Goku having it, just for being more interesting. If there was actual build up to Gohan becoming stronger, I'd welcome it, but so far, he's done nothing but follow Piccolo around and jerk off to his father's power.

The principle of UI is moving without thinking which is for the most skilled and dedicated martial artists,now don't get me wrong Goku got UI by dumb luck but he met the requirements for it.
But he got it sooner than the other Gods because Goku is so awesome/handsome/genius just like it took him only 3 days to catch Korrin while it took Roshi 3 years.

Freeza's power are a bigger anomaly than Gohan's if you want to give it to someone who does not deserve it.

If anything Gohan is a better character now since he tries to learn from his mistakes from Z,also Gohan in Z was a new character in every main arc.

To add to this, Goku did not get UI from absorbing the Spirit Bomb as was explained in 110. He got UI from surviving the Spirit Bomb exploding on him. It was either break out of his shell, or be vaporized. As Herms explained it, it was the trauma that awoken Goku's power. The Spirit Bomb just refilled his stamina.

UI have nothing to do with power, so Gohan shouldn't get it based on is power being anomaly.

That's interesting. That actually makes me prefer Gohan getting it, cause him surviving an explosion and "breaking out of his shell" seems fitting for someone with perpetually dormant potential.

[Simere]

Offensive UI doesn't even make sense to me. It's possible to just defend, but offense almost always flows from and through a defensive setup in a fight between even remotely equivalent combatants.

[HeroR]

Offensive UI doesn't even make sense to me. It's possible to just defend, but offense almost always flows from and through a defensive setup in a fight between even remotely equivalent combatants.

Offensive UI is mostly from Vegeta fans trying to give him something related to UI, completely missing the point Whis was making. Attacking without thought is way harder than just defending, which is true in real life martial arts and I am surprised that Dragon Ball added that detail.

[Whatever]

Can't argue that. Goku is a stud. He deserves UI.

As for Gohan, it took him 90 episodes to finally act on his words of trying to learn from his mistakes, and he's been unbearably dull throughout. I know some fans found him boring in DBZ, but I thought he was great in every arc, and besides the missing gap between the android and Cell Games arc, felt he developed better than most characters in the series. I loved his evolution, up until the Buu saga, where they started that trend of him not training.

Yeah classic Toriyama thing,he shows how awesome Goku is by accomplishing something much easier than others.

From the saiyan saga till the the androids,Gohan's character has been through a consistent development.
Then the cell games begin and everything changes,Gohan turns OC with the whole pacifist thing(which never comes up again after this) but hey at the least he learns from his mistakes and finishes of Cell right?

Then the Buu saga comes(or rather the Great saiyaman arc)Gohan is a better character overall,he is not just Piccolo's student or Goku's replacement,he is his own character,a problem with this is that Gohan's new traits are a first just like the pacifist thing in the Cell arc but at the least this traits stick around from this point on unlike the pacifist thing.

Then Ultimate Gohan comes,he is so powerfull and cool and he is even a savage in trashtalk as well!(pretty much fanfiction Gohan in terms of personality)
And then he screws up again,he makes the same mistake he did in the Cell saga,its like he learnt nothing,in fact he screws up even more than the Cell saga with the whole Super Buu and not being able to catch an earring as well.

I mean yeah Gohan along with Piccolo and Vegeta are the best developed characters in Z but the problem with Gohan was that he was pretty much a new character every main arc.
Him not training is not against his characters since he pretty much says from the 1st moment we meet him that he wants to be a scholar.

In super his character is consistent and he is learning from his mistakes at the very least.

[Saturnine]

UI is something you can only achieve if you're already at a certain level of power, which Gohan is not. Not to mention it's been said to be extremely difficult to achieve, which means someone like Gohan will never have enough drive, and most importantly - time to pursue. Being a faster improver than both Goku and Vegeta means squat in this case.

Though I predict Gohan getting a new form of his own by the end of the tournament, one building off Ultimate. And then he'll get eliminated