If Android 18's beat-down of Vegeta happened today.

[blackbewhite2k7]

Would fan's nerd rage nearly as hard as they do with anything that involves Kale, Cauliflua, or Kelfa?

[precita]

Probably. Vegeta had just gotten Super Saiyan and he got beat up by a teenage blonde android girl.

People would be like, "Some blonde robot girl is stronger than Freeza and Super Saiyan Goku and Vegeta? What the hell is this? Toriyama has lost his mind, 18 is a Mary Sue!"

[Kataphrut]

"This is an insult to all the hard work and struggle Vegeta went through to get that power".

[TheMikado]

Would fan's nerd rage nearly as hard as they do with anything that involves Kale, Cauliflua, or Kelfa?

Why not go find out for yourself?
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[jjgp1112]

Some robot lady is stronger than a Super Saiyan? The damn feminist agenda is ruining my Dragon Ball!

[supercat]

Vegeta was holding back.

Vegeta isn't as strong as Namek Frieza or SSJ Goku, he's more like Third Form Frieza at best.

Vegeta isn't as gifted as Goku, so his SSJ multiplier probably wasn't as great. He probably only saw a tenfold increase, and that's being generous.

Vegeta underestimated Android 18 and lost only due to his egotistical approach.

Android 18 was probably programmed with the innate ability to overcome stronger opponents. Android 18 is actually only Zarbon-tier at best, but her durability as an android and fighting skills are what granted her the win.

Oh wait, I guess Android 18 could be stronger than Zarbon after all, but still no where near Ginyu. Maybe around Jeice and Burter?

Vegeta has two Super Saiyan transformations. One for fodders like Android 18, and the other, a fully powered up version for powerhouses like Namek Frieza and SSJ Goku.

Hilarious right? Seriously, this is how ridiculous it all sounds when characters like Cabba, Frost, Kale, Caulifla, Dyspo, Future Zamasu, Present Zamasu, Android 17, Ribrianne, SSJ Goku / Vegeta / Gohan (current), Base Saiyans, Piccolo (current), Rozie, and many more are downplayed and squeezed into some low power scale below weaklings like Buu and SSJ Vegetto (Buu saga), who were probably surpassed several sagas before.

[FortuneSSJ]

4 steps:

1- Mah power levels! How is it possible than an old man living in a cave created Cyborgs stronger than Super Saiyans and Freeza with Earth technology?! (good question though...)
2- Toriyama hates Vegeta.
3 - Feminism!!!
4 - Dropped. DBZ is garbage. All other anime > DBZ.

*comes back next week*

[Soppa Saia People]

Probably lots of rants by geeks concerned fans, about Toriyama and how he treats Vegeta, and lots of complaints about feminism, how dae sjw's are taking over our media.

[KingKaash]

Did fans outrage about Gotenks being too strong when he debuted? I wasn't watching DBZ when it first came out. Did they say two half-Saiyan children fused and could already go SSJ3 and fight with Majin Buu while Vegeta couldn't? Because Kefla got hate for being OP

[Ilikepictures-meh]

Haha, this quickly bevame one of my favorite threads on here.

[Cipher]

I'm pleasantly surprised by everything in this thread!

[TekTheNinja]

It'd be seen as badass, same as it was. This isn't at all comparable to the universe 6 saiyan situation.

[Ki Breaker]

It'd be seen as badass, same as it was. This isn't at all comparable to the universe 6 saiyan situation.

This seems to be intented as a joke thread, but seriously, these are two very different situations, if people legitimately can't tell the difference all I can say is they probably followed Goku down the waterfall..

[Lord Beerus]

There would be tons of bitching. Remember how fans felt Vegeta was cheated out of defeating Freeza in Resurrection F? Magnify that by 100.

And that's not even taking into consideration how the concept of the Androids is bullshit, as well as Vegeta attaining Super Saiyan to begin with, and how that pisses all over everything about what happened on Namek.

[MR.Mark]

It's a battle power bargain sale, how was 18 that strong? This is almost as bad as Kale and Califla, well sure there was Goten and Trunks, but that's not as bad because they don't have vaginas, I HATE VIGINAS!

[TheMikado]

I mean I keep saying this there’s no need to speculate on reactions because we have them from that time period. Or I guess people want to continue making up fake scenarios in their heads. Enjoy.

[Michsi]

I mean I keep saying this there’s no need to speculate on reactions because we have them from that time period. Or I guess people want to continue making up fake scenarios in their heads. Enjoy.

Because people take into consideration today's mindset as well. Not to mention that that link just leads to several things that were discussed back then and it seems like a lot to sift through for the sake of this one thread.

[GodKaio-Ken]

It may be unfair but villains are generally treated differently. Why would anyone create a villain weaker than the protagonists?

It's the same reason no-one gets angry about Jiren. Granted he isn't a villain but more of a final boss type.

[sintzu]

No cause unlike Super, she didn't come out of nowhere. Trunks told them about her and #17 3 YEARS before they showed up so they were set up and fans would've expected things to turn out bad considaring the heroes got killed in Trunks' timeline by them.

[TheMikado]

I mean I keep saying this there’s no need to speculate on reactions because we have them from that time period. Or I guess people want to continue making up fake scenarios in their heads. Enjoy.

Because people take into consideration today's mindset as well. Not to mention that that link just leads to several things that were discussed back then and it seems like a lot to sift through for the sake of this one thread.

But that makes no sense, we don’t judge art against our own present day standards we judge them against their peers. Dragonball for during its time period stood out amongst its peer thus garnering it’s global positive reception. Modern Dragonball doesn’t. Essentially the purpose makes little sense and is about as productive as evaluating a musket in its effectiveness in modern combat.