Do you think we'll get a canon explanation why every universe goes after U7?

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Do you think we'll get a canon explanation why every universe goes after U7?

Post by precita » Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:01 pm

As an in-universe reason? In reality we know it's happening just because Universe 7 are the main characters and Toei has no idea how to handle a battle royale where all the universes are supposed to be fighting each other. And universes/characters fade into the background as if they're not even there when they're not focused on. Look at how long U3 lasted just because they had no spotlight till now.

But what if we get an in-universe reason? Like Universe 11 made a deal with all the other universes to mostly target U7 because of Goku's attitude in the exhibition matches? Maybe Jiren/Toppo promised all the other Gods that if they won, they would revive all the other universes? And that's why everyone is targeting mostly Universe 7? And the few times we see them beating up other universes, it's because they get attacked? Or Caulifa/Kale do what they want, etc.

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Re: Do you think we'll get a canon explanation why every universe goes after U7?

Post by Doctor. » Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:03 pm

Didn't they already explain it? The Kaioshin had an entire meet-up without U7's Shin to target U7 specifically because of Goku.

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Re: Do you think we'll get a canon explanation why every universe goes after U7?

Post by buutenks » Sun Dec 10, 2017 3:14 pm

Was mentioned twice i think. Once with that kaioshin meeting, and second with Whis saying that since u7 started this uni erasing tourney, they will be the main target.

However, only u9 and u4 targeted u7. U9 had a grudge against u7 due to the events that took place at the exhibition match and u4 GoD dislikes Beerus. Rest were just random encounters that happened due to u7 butting in, or because they were simply the closest to one another.

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Re: Do you think we'll get a canon explanation why every universe goes after U7?

Post by dbs fanboy » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:21 pm

U9 targeted U7 because their grudge against Goku, the only ones that targeted U7 from U6 were the saiyan girls, the namekians and dr Rota. Caulifla did it to learn how to get a stronger transformation, the namekians because they were targeting Goku (for obvious reasons given the fact he was tired and off guard) but were then interrupted by Gohan and Piccolo, Dr Rota was random.
U2 targeted them to defeat son Goku whle he was tired and to avenge the fallen magical girls and in #106 case, it was random as the attacks were directed pretty much to anyone there.
U10 was pretty much random, and they actually targeted more fighters outside U7.
U11 targeted both U6 and U7, and in U7's case, it was an order from Toppo to stop Goku from fighting Jiren.And in the special, because Vermoud ordered him to.
There's no explanation about U3 in the next episode, but the last time they did this, was because (again) Goku (the second strongest character in the ToP) was tired.
U4 was pretty much random until the last episode and there's no explanation for that beyond (and this is speculation) Quitela disliking Beerus.
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Re: Do you think we'll get a canon explanation why every universe goes after U7?

Post by MajinVegetaPD » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:25 pm

Everyone hates that idiot Goku who doomed all but 1 Universe into extinction..

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Re: Do you think we'll get a canon explanation why every universe goes after U7?

Post by Kataphrut » Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:45 pm

After the special, it makes sense because Universe 7 are winning by a clear margin, their most visible powerhouse is weakened (other fighters don't seem to be aware of how dangerous Freeza and Vegeta are, but all eyes have been on Goku) and winning by numbers is a preferable alternative to facing Jiren.

The Grand Priest sort of talked about this last episode. Everyone is lining up to try and knock 7 off the top spot and it's biting them in the arse. Here's hoping the other thing he said, that all this pressure is wearing them out. will actually play a role in the climax. This arc could get tense again if the surviving Universe 7 members are worn out when it comes time to fight the Pride Troopers, who are not only more powerful on average, but have been keeping their noses down.

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Re: Do you think we'll get a canon explanation why every universe goes after U7?

Post by Lionel » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:11 am

Agree with everyone else. Universe 7 is a bit of a pariah for their role in causing the tournament to become a reality. Goku reminded Zeno of it for his own self-gratification. Everyone on his team are also targets by association and because they want to destroy Beerus. You could ask why so few eliminations by other universes who aren't U6 or Jiren have taken place. Targets or not, there should still be some collateral losses from 59 characters fighting each other at once (not counting U6, U7 or Jiren).

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Re: Do you think we'll get a canon explanation why every universe goes after U7?

Post by SupremeKai25 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:47 am

I'm pretty sure Universe 10 didn't target Universe 10. Many fighters of Universe 10 fought against other Universes, such as U9 and U2. I'm actually sure Gowasu and Rumsshi didn't act like all other Universes because they remembered the help U7 gave them against the threat of Zamasu. At least i didn't see Gowasu ordering to his team to target U7, like other Universes did. It wouldn't make sense that Gowasu would order U10 to go after U7, because even if the survival of their Universe was at stake, Gowasu probably remembered that he'd be dead had it not been for Universe 7.

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Re: Do you think we'll get a canon explanation why every universe goes after U7?

Post by SonReggie » Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:33 pm

Kataphrut wrote:After the special, it makes sense because Universe 7 are winning by a clear margin, their most visible powerhouse is weakened (other fighters don't seem to be aware of how dangerous Freeza and Vegeta are, but all eyes have been on Goku) and winning by numbers is a preferable alternative to facing Jiren.

The Grand Priest sort of talked about this last episode. Everyone is lining up to try and knock 7 off the top spot and it's biting them in the arse. Here's hoping the other thing he said, that all this pressure is wearing them out. will actually play a role in the climax. This arc could get tense again if the surviving Universe 7 members are worn out when it comes time to fight the Pride Troopers, who are not only more powerful on average, but have been keeping their noses down.
True, although Freeza may (or may not) be something of a saving grace here as he's done even less than the Pride Troopers at this point.

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Re: Do you think we'll get a canon explanation why every universe goes after U7?

Post by shadowfox87 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:30 pm

That's kind of simple. U7 has the most number of fighters still on the ring. It's in every universe's best interest to attack U7 before the time is up otherwise U7 will just win by default.
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Re: Do you think we'll get a canon explanation why every universe goes after U7?

Post by Kaiosama » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:22 am

Also U7 has the most God-Tier fighters on their team. U6 needed the potarra outside of Hit. Only U11 with Jiren and Toppo is strong enough to contend with their battle power. U7 is the most dangerous team in my opinion (even if we don't have a Jiren level fighter) with Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, Frieza, and 17.

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