Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

[Ajay]

May you ask him about the Cooler thing too?

He said he couldn't remember anything like that.

[zarmack]

So Broly becomes a friend at the end... I am not surprised, but this series really needs some villains. This is getting boring.

Exactly. I miss the heartless psychopath villains from DB(Z). Even Freeza in Super isn't intimidating anymore.

[mahakaishin1991]

Neither villain dies.

Spoiler:

Paragus dies.

That saddens me.

[Grimlock]

He said he couldn't remember anything like that.

Oh well, there goes all the "what the hell!" commotion here.

Anyway, thank you.

[Cetra]

So they also retcon Beerus' power every 5 minutes.

[Chuquita]

So what whas the "Goku finally...?!" about?

Goku finally calls himself "Kakarotto"

Chiquita!!!!

The way they go about it--having Goku introduce himself to Brolli as both Goku and Kakarrotto--was really sweet too! I didn't expect that being the the scene it takes place in.

[Cetra]

Goku finally calls himself "Kakarotto"

Chiquita!!!!

The way they go about it--having Goku introduce himself to Brolli as both Goku and Kakarrotto--was really sweet too! I didn't expect that being the the scene it takes place in.

You watched the movie?

[OhHiRenan]

Spoiler:

What a twist of fate it is that the Fusion Dance has actually ended up significantly better than the Potata Fusion.

[Lukmendes]

2. It was never stated anywhere that Z Gogeta was stronger than Z Vegito, especially since Z Vegito was confirmed the strongest character in all of Z.

Some magazine supposedly said that Gogeta was the stronger one, think it was this:

https://i.imgur.com/rWUo7fI.jpg

Really not sure if that's even written in there (Though there is a Vegetto vs Gogeta mini section), or even the credibility of it though.

That same oversight is what made Broly not be in ToP, unless the characters only searched for planets with intelligent life and Broly wasn't in one of them... Same could be applied to Cooler.

Fair point.

Perhaps Paragus was keeping Broly well hidden to avoid detection.

Possible, but apparently not well hidden enough to avoid Freeza lol

So they also retcon Beerus' power every 5 minutes.

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Seems like Beerus is becoming that kid who changes his powers everytime someone manages to counter them

[PFM18]

Spoiler:

What a twist of fate it is that the Fusion Dance has actually ended up significantly better than the Potata Fusion.

uhhh not really? How do you figure?

[IM21]

So they also retcon Beerus' power every 5 minutes.

Beerus has not fought 100% so Goku or Vegeta don't really know how storng he is.

[Cetra]

Spoiler:

What a twist of fate it is that the Fusion Dance has actually ended up significantly better than the Potata Fusion.

uhhh not really? How do you figure?

Because he is so great that he completely ignores the Power shortens Time rule.

[Kinokima]

Well it’s cool that we will get to see Gogeta for a full fight not just for a minute

Also I’ll get to see Goku & Vegeta do the Fusion dance more than once

[Cetra]

So they also retcon Beerus' power every 5 minutes.

Beerus has not fought 100% so Goku or Vegeta don't really know how storng he is.

That is really nonsense. They had multiple occasions were Beerus was obviously retconned and Jiren was also stronger than Beerus. So this whole thing is absolutely a retcon. Once again. They already tackled the power of Beerus being surpassed in the Zamasu saga. Heck, if we want to go that route, Kaiouken Blue's entrance was problematic already. This is about the same thing as when people wanted to defend Freeza's comment at Toppo about tasting the power that is able to destroy a whole planet.

[sunsetshimmer]

SSB Gogeta > SS Full power Broly > God Gogeta > base gogeta ~= ssj broly > ssb goku/vegeta. I think is accurate

It makes SSJ Blue really weak form considering SSJ4 was stated to have multiplier comparable to potara fusion (+SSJ) which would mean SSJ Blue has far lower multiplier.
It doesn't make sense tho because it would mean SSJG was pointless against Beerus and SSJ Vegito would do a lot better. DBS owned itself once again.

No it doesn't. SSJ4's multiplier was nowhere stated nor implied to be nowhere near to potara fusions. That guide you are referring to merely point out that Buu arc Vegito was "perhaps stronger than a SSJ4", which suggest that SSJ4 much weaker than you think, while SSB is at least 50x SSG (since its SSJ x SSG).

It never said anythng about Buu arc Vegito. It was about Vegito overall.
Super Baby 1 was already stated to be stronger than Vegito and he was shit compared to SSJ4 Goku, so you're wrong.
And if base Gogeta is strongr than SSJ Blue it either retcons SSJ God being stronger than Vegito pretty much making SSJ4 far superior to Blue or it retcons statement about potara fusion being superior and just makes Gogeta far stronger than Vegito.

So Broly becomes a friend at the end... I am not surprised, but this series really needs some villains. This is getting boring.

What is this? MLP/EQG?

Lol pretty much

[PFM18]

so they retconned Jiren>Beerus then? It seems that they just tossed Jiren's claim to fame of being the mortal stronger than a God of Destruction because not only would he not be the only one because Broly is too, but he isn't actually even stronger than a GoD anymore either!

[Cetra]

so they retconned Jiren>Beerus then? It seems that they just tossed Jiren's claim to fame of being the mortal stronger than a God of Destruction because not only would he not be the only one because Broly is too, but he isn't actually even stronger than a GoD anymore either!

I'll wait for WHEN that estimation in the movie happens. If they estimate Broly's power as long as he is not fully transformed this does not seem that problematic to me. LSSJ being estimated just as "maybe" stronger seems weird.

[Chuquita]

Chiquita!!!!

The way they go about it--having Goku introduce himself to Brolli as both Goku and Kakarrotto--was really sweet too! I didn't expect that being the the scene it takes place in.

You watched the movie?

I wish!

No, I'm just happy about the Goku finally part.

[ShaggyBlanco]

>After the ToP i have to get stronger, there are so many strong fighters out there
>Jiren
>Hit
>Kale
>Caulifla
>Ribrianne

Yes, even Ribrianne has a cameo idk why, she was fodder to 18 and Vegeta.

If this actually happens then I think it is the anime continuity, Goku didn't even interact with Ribrianne/Caulifla there iirc

[Lord Beerus]

so they retconned Jiren>Beerus then? It seems that they just tossed Jiren's claim to fame of being the mortal stronger than a God of Destruction because not only would he not be the only one because Broly is too, but he isn't actually even stronger than a GoD anymore either!

Jiren > Beerus wasn't retconned because it was never a thing to begin with.