Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Bebi Hatchiyack » Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:22 am

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CTAkuma wrote: Means there is still hope for Cooler in the future if they mention Frieza has family. Also King Cold is both Frieza's father and mother, he produced Frieza asexually
I’d assume Freeza’s race is asexual but has that every really been confirmed?
No, it hasn't been confirmed. That's just speculation. In the Namek arc though Freeza mentioned his "parents." As in, he has multiple parents.
It will be wild if Cooler get in the main continuity canon along with Frieza mother :lol: Imagine the fandom WILD !
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Post by CTAkuma » Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:22 am

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No, it hasn't been confirmed. That's just speculation. In the Namek arc though Freeza mentioned his "parents." As in, he has multiple parents.
It's not just specualtion there is evidence that King Cold is his only parent, as the plural form of parents doesn't exist in Japanese and Frieza never once mentioned having something like a mother in the original Japanese
That's still just speculation. There's absolutely nothing stating that he is asexual or even implying it. He could easily have a mother that we just never heard about
Yet he knows about majin buu and Beerus from his father? Highly unlikely. There is more evidence of Frieza not having a mother than him having one

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by PFM18 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:24 am

CTAkuma wrote:
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CTAkuma wrote: It's not just specualtion there is evidence that King Cold is his only parent, as the plural form of parents doesn't exist in Japanese and Frieza never once mentioned having something like a mother in the original Japanese
That's still just speculation. There's absolutely nothing stating that he is asexual or even implying it. He could easily have a mother that we just never heard about
Yet he knows about majin buu and Beerus from his father? Highly unlikely. There is more evidence of Frieza not having a mother than him having one
I still don't really see how this can't just be summarized by what I said earlier as: "just speculation."

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Chuquita » Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:27 am

This talk about moms made me remember we aren't going to see Vegeta's or Brolli's mom in this movie after all. :(
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by CTAkuma » Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:29 am

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That's still just speculation. There's absolutely nothing stating that he is asexual or even implying it. He could easily have a mother that we just never heard about
Yet he knows about majin buu and Beerus from his father? Highly unlikely. There is more evidence of Frieza not having a mother than him having one
I still don't really see how this can't just be summarized by what I said earlier as: "just speculation."
Him having "multiple parents" as you mentioned is wrong, funny how they also changed that in Kai to just "father"

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Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:49 am

Chuquita wrote:This talk about moms made me remember we aren't going to see Vegeta's or Brolli's mom in this movie after all. :(
And what would we gain from seeing them?
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Post by CTAkuma » Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:51 am

Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:
Chuquita wrote:This talk about moms made me remember we aren't going to see Vegeta's or Brolli's mom in this movie after all. :(
And what would we gain from seeing them?
More waifus

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Post by Chuquita » Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:10 am

CTAkuma wrote:
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Chuquita wrote:This talk about moms made me remember we aren't going to see Vegeta's or Brolli's mom in this movie after all. :(
And what would we gain from seeing them?
More waifus
General curiosity. Getting to see Gokû's mom made me curious to see Vegeta's and Brolli's.

Could they have added anything to the movie not already done by Paragus and King Vegeta? I dunno. Not without seeing the movie I don't know.
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Post by BrolyKale » Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:11 am

For those who were wondering there's no blood in the movie.
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Post by RecolorSaiyan » Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:27 am

Where there stamina issues in the movie?

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Post by PFM18 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:57 am

CTAkuma wrote:
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CTAkuma wrote: Yet he knows about majin buu and Beerus from his father? Highly unlikely. There is more evidence of Frieza not having a mother than him having one
I still don't really see how this can't just be summarized by what I said earlier as: "just speculation."
Him having "multiple parents" as you mentioned is wrong, funny how they also changed that in Kai to just "father"
He said "parents" which leaves the door open for a mother. Sure, he may not have a mother, but we don't know either way.

No matter which way you slice it, it has never been officially stated that Freeza's race reproduces asexually and you're just speculating about it.

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by CTAkuma » Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:59 am

PFM18 wrote:
CTAkuma wrote:
PFM18 wrote:
I still don't really see how this can't just be summarized by what I said earlier as: "just speculation."
Him having "multiple parents" as you mentioned is wrong, funny how they also changed that in Kai to just "father"
He said "parents" which leaves the door open for a mother. Sure, he may not have a mother, but we don't know either way.

No matter which way you slice it, it has never been officially stated that Freeza's race reproduces asexually and you're just speculating about it.
Correction "parent", the plural doesn't exist in japanese.

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Zelvin » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:02 pm

It's entirely possible we could've seen the full Royal family, along with Broly's family, in the full Toriyama script. But since it was cut in half, maybe they'll be mentioned in the LN release of the movie.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by TheRed259 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:14 pm

AnimeNation101 wrote:He remembers that killing Krillin on Namek unlocked Goku’s ssj power. So he kills Paragus to try to unlock SSJ Broly so that he can beat down on Goku and Vegeta
Makes me wonder... does Broly care for Paragus or not?

One could say yes, since he did become SSJ due to Paragu's death but someone else could say no, since he (they) didn't revive his father at the end of the movie with the Dragonballs. Also, we can't forget Movie 8 (even if it's not canon) where Broly killed his own father.

What I get from this is that yes, deep down he does care about his father but at the same time he knows that he was someone who just using him for his own purposes...?

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Post by BrolyKale » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:15 pm

TheRed259 wrote:
AnimeNation101 wrote:He remembers that killing Krillin on Namek unlocked Goku’s ssj power. So he kills Paragus to try to unlock SSJ Broly so that he can beat down on Goku and Vegeta
Makes me wonder... does Broly care for Paragus or not?

One could say yes, since he did become SSJ due to Paragu's death but someone else could say no, since he (they) didn't revive his father at the end of the movie with the Dragonballs. Also, we can't forget Movie 8 (even if it's not canon) where Broly killed his own father.

What I get from this is that yes, deep down he does care about his father but at the same time he knows that he was someone who just using him for his own purposes...?
In this movie, he definitely does because he is more tender/gentle. He even got angry at Cheelai and Lemo when they talked badly about his father and he got angrier when he saw his father's death. Even if Broly is kinda angry at his father, he still loves him. Paragus, on the other hand, cares much about his revenge and mainly sees Broly as a tool. They can't revive Paragus because they already used all the wishes.

Movie 8 Broly killed his father because his father wanted to leave him to death, so he kinda deserved it, even though Paragus had no choice because Broly escaped from his control and was going to destroy everything.
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Post by AnimeNation101 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:23 pm

NEW DBS ARC INCOMING

Toyo’s manga will skip Broly and head THE NEXT ARC. The Galactic Patrol Prisoner Arc
I called it that Gogeta, Bardock, and something Broly related would be in the movie before it was even announced that it was a Broly movie. 8)

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Post by CTAkuma » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:27 pm

AnimeNation101 wrote:NEW DBS ARC INCOMING

Toyo’s manga will skip Broly and head THE NEXT ARC. The Galactic Patrol Prisoner Arc
Another prisoner arc?

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by PFM18 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:27 pm

AnimeNation101 wrote:NEW DBS ARC INCOMING

Toyo’s manga will skip Broly and head THE NEXT ARC. The Galactic Patrol Prisoner Arc
I didnt think they actually gave a name for the arc did they?

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by AnimeNation101 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:30 pm

CTAkuma wrote:
AnimeNation101 wrote:NEW DBS ARC INCOMING

Toyo’s manga will skip Broly and head THE NEXT ARC. The Galactic Patrol Prisoner Arc
Another prisoner arc?
Lol. First we get a Prisoner arc with the Time Patrol and now a Prisoner arc with the Galactic Patrol.

I dont mind it though
I called it that Gogeta, Bardock, and something Broly related would be in the movie before it was even announced that it was a Broly movie. 8)

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:32 pm

This new arc in the manga looks like it has the blood of Dragon Ball Heroes in it...

Hmm.

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