Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by SuperRose » Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:51 am

Why would you "end a successful Show like Super"?

Nothing really has been explained like the Angels background, Grand Priest, Zenos, Zalama, the GoDs background and the already destroyed Universes. And Zenos Guards. Why would you bring them if you have already somebody like the Grand Priest that could easily protect you?

And why would you even introduce 2 Zenos in the same Timeline? Just we can have one more Childrish God that cheers everything what happens in the ToP?

Probably to complex for Toriyama and co. to explain..

So no reason to start a new Show, if they didn't even finish with Super. Could be a hiatus as it was already thought here, to get Toyotaro more into buisness and maybe he could explain those points I just pointed out, but unlikely.
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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by Basaku » Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:51 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
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Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Wow now that's depressing. DBS ends but Monster freaking Hunter continues...
That's assuming it's ending, not taking a break to give everyone behind the scenes more time to produce and write a better product. They already said the franchise as a whole isn't done so at least we have that to go on.
DBS twitter account confirmed no hiatus. Said thank you for the support and to look forward to the new movie.
In that case, we will most likely see some rushed EOZ setup in 131 to tie things up and allow Toei/Toriyama figure out "what's next"

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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by mute_proxy » Fri Jan 19, 2018 6:55 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote: DBS twitter account confirmed no hiatus. Said thank you for the support and to look forward to the new movie.
That's not really a confirmation, it confirms that it's stopping, yes, but it's like saying Kai had ended after Cell arc then a few years later it continued.

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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by sintzu » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:00 am

mute_proxy wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote: DBS twitter account confirmed no hiatus. Said thank you for the support and to look forward to the new movie.
That's not really a confirmation, it confirms that it's stopping, yes, but it's like saying Kai had ended after Cell arc then a few years later it continued.
This is a very odd place to end things based on all the unresolved plot points. I wonder if this has something to do with that rumor from 2 years ago about Toriyama nearly walking away because of its quality.
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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:08 am

mute_proxy wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote: DBS twitter account confirmed no hiatus. Said thank you for the support and to look forward to the new movie.
That's not really a confirmation, it confirms that it's stopping, yes, but it's like saying Kai had ended after Cell arc then a few years later it continued.
For all itents and purpose Kai did end after Cell. It was never intended to comeback to Japanese tv and only did due to the utter failure of Toriko had Toriko been a success Kai wouldn't have come back.

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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by sintzu » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:10 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Had Toriko been a success Kai wouldn't have come back.
Kai was already being made for the international market so it most likely would've gotten a Japanese home release.
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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by HeroR » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:12 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
mute_proxy wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote: DBS twitter account confirmed no hiatus. Said thank you for the support and to look forward to the new movie.
That's not really a confirmation, it confirms that it's stopping, yes, but it's like saying Kai had ended after Cell arc then a few years later it continued.
For all itents and purpose Kai did end after Cell. It was never intended to comeback to Japanese tv and only did due to the utter failure of Toriko had Toriko been a success Kai wouldn't have come back.
The big different here is that Kai was a failure because it didn't pushed merch despite its good ratings. Also, Kai came back mostly because of international interest. Toei even said Buu Kai exists purely for oversees, despite it taking forever for Buu Kai to air here. That and people were interested in Dragon Ball again with the arrival of Battle of Gods and then later Resurrection 'F'.

Toriko doing worst than Kai was just the icing on the cake.
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This is a very odd place to end things based on all the unresolved plot points. I wonder if this has something to do with that rumor from 2 years ago about Toriyama nearly walking away because of its quality.
Not sure if this counts as a rumor since only one person claimed this has happened. The poster maybe reliable, but unlike from what I've heard about this, several people heard rumblings about Super ending in March for awhile. Geekdom even talks about this, namely he knew for at least 48 hours. So far, nothing backs this poster's claimed other than do you trust the poster. And before someone asked, no I'm not saying that they're not trustworthy. I'm just pointing out that there is no backup source for the whole 'Toriyama was going to walk away and only came back for Trunks'. Especially since when he wrote the Future Trunks Saga doesn't match the story.
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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by DBZ_Lee » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:12 am

Toriyama Sensei is now 62, he's much older than Oda, and would likely find working on a movie, and a TV series concurrently quite difficult.
He may have decided he wants to take a break after he's done working on this movie, so that's where we're at right now.
I just find it hard to believe Toei would want to finish Super whilst it's a cashcow, especially as merch is doing well, unless they don't feel they need a show to sell it now.

If it was a hiatus, then they would surely have said so.
Let's see what happens at the conclusion of episode 131.

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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by HeroR » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:18 am

DBZ_Lee wrote:Toriyama Sensei is now 62, he's much older than Oda, and would likely find working on a movie, and a TV series concurrently quite difficult.
He may have decided he wants to take a break after he's done working on this movie, so that's where we're at right now.
I just find it hard to believe Toei would want to finish Super whilst it's a cashcow, especially as merch is doing well, unless they don't feel they need a show to sell it now.

If it was a hiatus, then they would surely have said so.
Let's see what happens at the conclusion of episode 131.
Toriyama isn't doing any the heavy lifting. He's just making a script and character designs. That is nowhere near how involved Oda is with any of his projects. Especially when Toriyama does the scripts for the next arc months in advance.

Also, they don't necessarily say so since as pointed out, Fairy Tail was in the same position until they saw 'To Be Continued' in the final episode.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by dbgtFO » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:36 am

Good to get it confirmed.
A weird decision all in all though. I wonder.. since they obviously have been planning the return of Kitaro for quite awhile, perhaps Toei/Shueisha told Toriyama before writing the new arc that this was going to be the final arc for the time being and that's why we got the ToP to end on such a high note?

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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:37 am

sintzu wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Had Toriko been a success Kai wouldn't have come back.
Kai was already being made for the international market so it most likely would've gotten a Japanese home release.
Talking about TV broadcast though. After the Cell arc they had no intention of Buu arc to air.

Kitaro doesn't look like it's gonna fail, it's an established series so we could be waiting a long time unless we get another slot.

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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by Kepiaschkz » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:47 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
sintzu wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Wow now that's depressing. DBS ends but Monster freaking Hunter continues...
That's assuming it's ending, not taking a break to give everyone behind the scenes more time to produce and write a better product. They already said the franchise as a whole isn't done so at least we have that to go on.
DBS twitter account confirmed no hiatus. Said thank you for the support and to look forward to the new movie.
You missed the last sentence of that twitter announcement apparently.

"Dragon Ball SERIES continues so stay tuned"
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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by HeroR » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:48 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
sintzu wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Had Toriko been a success Kai wouldn't have come back.
Kai was already being made for the international market so it most likely would've gotten a Japanese home release.
Talking about TV broadcast though. After the Cell arc they had no intention of Buu arc to air.

Kitaro doesn't look like it's gonna fail, it's an established series so we could be waiting a long time unless we get another slot.
Keep in mind that Kitaro is an anniversary show. They're not meant to be long running and usually have a set amount of episodes.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:53 am

Kepiaschkz wrote:
You missed the last sentence of that twitter announcement apparently.

"Dragon Ball SERIES continues so stay tuned"

They're talking about the new movie.

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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by HeroR » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:55 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
Kepiaschkz wrote:
You missed the last sentence of that twitter announcement apparently.

"Dragon Ball SERIES continues so stay tuned"

They're talking about the new movie.


Actually, the sentence if a vague enough to be mean many things.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:59 am

HeroR wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
Kepiaschkz wrote:
You missed the last sentence of that twitter announcement apparently.

"Dragon Ball SERIES continues so stay tuned"

They're talking about the new movie.


Actually, the sentence if a vague enough to be mean many things.

It comes after they mention movie. It's best to just assume they're talking about that instead of getting any hopes up.

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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by HeroR » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:11 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
HeroR wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote: They're talking about the new movie.
Actually, the sentence if a vague enough to be mean many things.
It comes after they mention movie. It's best to just assume they're talking about that instead of getting any hopes up.
True, but the the wording is vague and could mean many things. They can't promised anything, other than saying 'Dragon Ball isn't over'.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by IntoTheFire » Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:46 am

The truth is we don't know anything other than it is ending in March. Everything else is pure speculation. It only being a hiatus, there being a new series, there being no new series... We don't know anything with certainty. We can only speculate until we have any official news.
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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Fri Jan 19, 2018 10:11 am

It's speculation for sure, but I have a hard time believing we won't see a new series or Super resume when its making so much money, the new movie will probably reinforce that.

Either way I'm hoping when the series inevitably continues (most likely sometime in 2019) both the manga and the dub will be caught up.
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Re: Super possibly losing its timeslot or going on hiatus in March?

Post by DragonBallFoodie » Fri Jan 19, 2018 11:58 am

IntoTheFire wrote:The truth is we don't know anything other than it is ending in March. Everything else is pure speculation. It only being a hiatus, there being a new series, there being no new series... We don't know anything with certainty. We can only speculate until we have any official news.
I agree with this.

I really hope it's a hiatus.
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