JazzMazz wrote:Yuki Hayashi was confirmed to have done a cut from the newest trailer.
Hooray.
He had the best cut of animation Resurrection F, even though it was stifled by poor directing and storyboarding on Yamamuro's part.
Can't wait to see him unchained and let loose and with plenty of time to work with and with so many talented animators to support him.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
It still blows my mind how Yamamuro was allowed to butcher this series for so long. There is a scene in the 4th trailer with Goku in Vegeta in the same shot, and Goku looks really worried/shocked at what I can only presume is something Broly is doing. We have not had any expression in Super match that level of intensity and emotion until now. I also actually don't find that opening shot of Gogeta particularly offensive, it still looks pretty awesome compared to the majority of Super.
Last edited by supersaiyanZero on Fri Nov 30, 2018 5:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I expected Hayashi's return to Toei,but a little bit later (New OP film).
Anyway,how much time have passed since he left? I hope he returns with a big crazy scene
All the animation looks really great IMO. I'm glad the animators could go all out as much as they could on the film.
"Don't take pleasure in destruction!" / "I will not let you destroy my world!"
A true hero goes beyond not the limits of power, but the limits that divide countries and people.
The expression guides for Freeza, Goku (Base, God, Blue), Broli (Base), Bulma, Bra/Bulla, and Hissy Floof Broly's Giant Green Creature are out.
Beets, Zarbon, and Dodoria also have new model sheets.
Last edited by UltraPrimus22 on Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.
FortuneSSJ wrote:Eww, that Base Gogeta in the beginning is lame.
And some people still say that Takahashi should follow the new art style...
Shida handling the climax and being a monster on that was expected, but feels like he's holding back on his shading. I don't like that. His art could look even better.
Geez, are you always complaining about something? Lol
Nah geez, you're just dramatic lol. As a normal functioning human being there are things that I like and don't like. I just like to point out both of them.
Why should I say I'm fully satisfied with the new designs, when there's this monster called Yuya Takahashi, who is making everyone look much better with the Buu arc designs?!
Why should I say that Shida isn't holding back in his shading when he is?!
Etc...
Speaking of things I don't like, in the trailers when Shenlong goes away and the dragon balls scatter, there are 8 rays of light instead of 7. I would like to have that fixed, if possible.
UltraPrimus22 wrote:Just a quick update to my earlier post, but some higher quality images of some of the expression sheets are floating:
Goku (Base Form - Expressions):
Spoiler:
Bulma (Expressions):
Spoiler:
Bra:
Spoiler:
Freeza (Final Form - Expressions):
Spoiler:
Broli (Base Form - Expressions):
Spoiler:
Green Dog-like Creature:
Spoiler:
Keener eyes may notice that the creature's gaping mouth is about the size of one of the spider creatures (who are pretty big on their own).
Hmm, something about the middle Goku (the one looking straight at the viewer) is interesting. Something about it is different than Shintani's base Goku we have seen before. The feature placements look slightly better in these. I still am not a fan of em looking so much younger and some of those other faces from other characters look way too ridiculous for my taste, however the key visual from Shintani ft. Base Goku always irked the hell out of me so to see it slightly better makes me happier.
Well, I can say that after watching all trailers and a few teasers, this movie (apart from knowing the whole) plot might be really good visually speaking.
I would dig if Super returned with this kind of animation, but probably it's impossible.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Noah wrote:Well, I can say that after watching all trailers and a few teasers, this movie (apart from knowing the whole) plot might be really good visually speaking.
I would dig if Super returned with this kind of animation, but probably it's impossible.
It will almost definitely retain the same art/animation direction this movie has. Toei has been pushing it so hard, and it's been stated that this new art direction is done with more fluid animation in mind.
So, will it look just like this movie week in and week out? No, that just wouldn't be possible. But will it retain a significantly improved art style with good animation and occasionally have amazing animation? I can almost guarantee it. As an example, check out episode 65 of Boruto.
If and when Super returns with this style and has the same level of production it had by the end of it's first run, I don't think it would be wrong to say it'll probably be the best looking Dragon Ball show of them all. Despite the character designs I'm pretty sure Super had a higher ratio of good-looking cuts to episode count anyway, so having an actually likable artstyle would make it the perfect combination of modern animation and classic aesthetics for the series.
Shaddy wrote:If and when Super returns with this style and has the same level of production it had by the end of it's first run, I don't think it would be wrong to say it'll probably be the best looking Dragon Ball show of them all. Despite the character designs I'm pretty sure Super had a higher ratio of good-looking cuts to episode count anyway, so having an actually likable artstyle would make it the perfect combination of modern animation and classic aesthetics for the series.
I mean it was already the best looking Dragon Ball show of them all. Dragon Ball never looked as good as it in:
Zamasu/Black vs Goku/Trunks tag team fight
fight vs Merged Zamasu
episode 109/110 special
episode 129/130
And it isn't even close. The rest of Super is still better than other DB shows, but not by the same margin as the aforementioned scenes.
Spoiler:
Super carries on much of Dragon Ball and Z's charm in ways that might not immediately be obvious, while also bringing something new to the table. I certainly can't think of any previous arcs like Goku Black, and, for all its problems, the Tournament of Power is possibly the most ambitious storytelling endeavor in series history as far as how its narrative unfolds. It's also a thrill ride, which is all I wanted and exactly what I got. Super also canonizes decades old fan theories in ways that very naturally tie into the overall fabric of Dragon Ball's world in satisfying ways. All in all, Dragon Ball, Z, and Super are all well worth experiencing.
Well, I'd have to disagree with that. The original manga adaptation (which I say instead of "the 90s series" because GT's colors are ANUS) had way better color and character designs, and due to it's age had little digital compositing that could ruin talented animators' work like what happened with Super. Besides that, they were more consistent, had generally less processed-looking character art and backgrounds, and often very rugged linework that fits the series well but is never used in Super. Everything's up to personal taste of course, but I wouldn't blame anyone for preferring the general feel of Z's artstyle over Super's. What Super has is more work from a large number of talented animators over the course of less episodes, which I highly appreciate, but it doesn't excuse the designs, colors, processing etc. from being kind of flaccid and cheap-looking (note: cheap looking, I know better than to blame shit on the budget). And let's not even get onto the subject of consistency and supervision.
That said, the discussion might as well be moot if this is really what we're getting, because it's essentially the best of both worlds.
:max_bytes(150000):strip_icc()/4231944680_67a255b5c7_o-5ad6a65ea18d9e0036ff0beb-5bb76f1cc9e77c0026ad3187.jpg)