Well that's two false assumptions, but we're basically repeating that I'm mostly agreeing with you whilst acknowledging that there are exceptions in the media. Then you just go back to your first point and it goes around. Hence the cycle comment before you get a little riled. I don't know if it's wires crossed situation or a text instead of spoken thing at this point, but yeah.Hulk10 wrote:And I sense a potentially rude comment coming on that I'm sure I won't like...…….mahakaishin1991 wrote:I detect a cycle here...Hulk10 wrote:
True but doing so without the tail is unnatural.
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Seeing how huge that staff list is, and how much it is mostly composed of in-house talent from Toei, makes me hope that is/when Super 2.0 happens, there will be more animators available to share the load.
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He actually said it might be that way. And it irks me greatly that the seeming fact that Broly can stack his SSJ forms on top of the Ikari leads some to believe that the Ikari is part of the Legendary Super Saiyan thing.Sora Saiyan wrote:Brolys way would actually be the best way. There’s no tail that can be cut off to weaken him, even if it is “unnatural”. In all honesty, Brolys way actually fits better with Toriyamas comment saying that the Saiyans tails don’t return once they hit a certain level because the body sees them as unnecessary appendages. He also basically calls them a double edged sword.Hulk10 wrote:True but doing so without the tail is unnatural.mahakaishin1991 wrote:
Adult Gohan somehow pulled it of in Heroes without one, but that's heroes being heroes. I'm surprised they havent started giving everyone 4 just yet.
I'd like to the Broly's new form could be a potential gateway for it to return :S Please make it happen
Brolys Rage form is so interesting, because unlike SSJ4, it seems that Broly may actually stack his SSJ forms on top of this form. That’s judging by the appearance anyway. It’s so intersting because the potential with the form seems super crazy when looking at it like that, even though it probably won’t be utilised. If it is though the Rage form would basically be considered base humanoid Oozaru.
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I dont think its a problem, especially when it's still unique to him to do this assuming it is the case that Ikari is why it's green at full power. I like the possible explanation since it ties into the flashback of the legendary super saiyan being shown in their great ape form in the anime. Gives the theme a more primal quality than just Broly of the original movies just being 'the special.'Hulk10 wrote:He actually said it might be that way. And it irks me greatly that the seeming fact that Broly can stack his SSJ forms on top of the Ikari leads some to believe that the Ikari is part of the Legendary Super Saiyan thing.Sora Saiyan wrote:Brolys way would actually be the best way. There’s no tail that can be cut off to weaken him, even if it is “unnatural”. In all honesty, Brolys way actually fits better with Toriyamas comment saying that the Saiyans tails don’t return once they hit a certain level because the body sees them as unnecessary appendages. He also basically calls them a double edged sword.Hulk10 wrote:
True but doing so without the tail is unnatural.
Brolys Rage form is so interesting, because unlike SSJ4, it seems that Broly may actually stack his SSJ forms on top of this form. That’s judging by the appearance anyway. It’s so intersting because the potential with the form seems super crazy when looking at it like that, even though it probably won’t be utilised. If it is though the Rage form would basically be considered base humanoid Oozaru.
I can understand the demystifying of the legendary form could bother some people, but I prefer it over, 'It's a variant of super saiyan 2.'
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Its not the demystifying that bugs me its the idea that a great ape form could lead to a form that looks nothing like an SSJ4. And the fact that Kale doesn't have the Ikari form. Since Kale doesn't have it, it leads me to conclude that the Ikari is not necessary for the Super Saiyan C Type form.mahakaishin1991 wrote:I dont think its a problem, especially when it's still unique to him to do this assuming it is the case that Ikari is why it's green at full power. I like the possible explanation since it ties into the flashback of the legendary super saiyan being shown in their great ape form in the anime. Gives the theme a more primal quality than just Broly of the original movies just being 'the special.'Hulk10 wrote:He actually said it might be that way. And it irks me greatly that the seeming fact that Broly can stack his SSJ forms on top of the Ikari leads some to believe that the Ikari is part of the Legendary Super Saiyan thing.Sora Saiyan wrote: Brolys way would actually be the best way. There’s no tail that can be cut off to weaken him, even if it is “unnatural”. In all honesty, Brolys way actually fits better with Toriyamas comment saying that the Saiyans tails don’t return once they hit a certain level because the body sees them as unnecessary appendages. He also basically calls them a double edged sword.
Brolys Rage form is so interesting, because unlike SSJ4, it seems that Broly may actually stack his SSJ forms on top of this form. That’s judging by the appearance anyway. It’s so intersting because the potential with the form seems super crazy when looking at it like that, even though it probably won’t be utilised. If it is though the Rage form would basically be considered base humanoid Oozaru.
I can understand the demystifying of the legendary form could bother some people, but I prefer it over, 'It's a variant of super saiyan 2.'
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Kale doesnt display any other super saiyan form up other than her green variants, but since her universe saiyans evolved differently, whose to say?Hulk10 wrote:Its not the demystifying that bugs me its the idea that a great ape form could lead to a form that looks nothing like an SSJ4. And the fact that Kale doesn't have the Ikari form. Since Kale doesn't have it, it leads me to conclude that the Ikari is not necessary for the Super Saiyan C Type form.mahakaishin1991 wrote:I dont think its a problem, especially when it's still unique to him to do this assuming it is the case that Ikari is why it's green at full power. I like the possible explanation since it ties into the flashback of the legendary super saiyan being shown in their great ape form in the anime. Gives the theme a more primal quality than just Broly of the original movies just being 'the special.'Hulk10 wrote:
He actually said it might be that way. And it irks me greatly that the seeming fact that Broly can stack his SSJ forms on top of the Ikari leads some to believe that the Ikari is part of the Legendary Super Saiyan thing.
I can understand the demystifying of the legendary form could bother some people, but I prefer it over, 'It's a variant of super saiyan 2.'
And besides, Broly's full power form is his current max, whose to say we wont get more later that bring it up to a more four like state (something I have suggested repeatedly on these forums) Zeno knows this series loves throwing new transformations out there and lately there's been a fanservice undercurrent. Broly seems like the logical choice to bring back another fan favourite form. Give it time.
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Toriyama said he didn't like how complicated the SSJ4 was to draw so I doubt he will make it 'canon'. I just think its wrong to assume that the Ikari form is related the the Legendary Super Saiyan and its non full power form. Also when he grabbed that blue brutish Frieza soldier, his eyes turned yellow like they do in the Ikari form but he hadn't had the necessary anger and grief to transform into a Super Saiyan, so that leads me to conclude that they are separate forms, of separate evolutions. But I don't think we will ever know for sure.mahakaishin1991 wrote:Kale doesnt display any other super saiyan form up other than her green variants, but since her universe saiyans evolved differently, whose to say?Hulk10 wrote:Its not the demystifying that bugs me its the idea that a great ape form could lead to a form that looks nothing like an SSJ4. And the fact that Kale doesn't have the Ikari form. Since Kale doesn't have it, it leads me to conclude that the Ikari is not necessary for the Super Saiyan C Type form.mahakaishin1991 wrote:
I dont think its a problem, especially when it's still unique to him to do this assuming it is the case that Ikari is why it's green at full power. I like the possible explanation since it ties into the flashback of the legendary super saiyan being shown in their great ape form in the anime. Gives the theme a more primal quality than just Broly of the original movies just being 'the special.'
I can understand the demystifying of the legendary form could bother some people, but I prefer it over, 'It's a variant of super saiyan 2.'
And besides, Broly's full power form is his current max, whose to say we wont get more later that bring it up to a more four like state (something I have suggested repeatedly on these forums) Zeno knows this series loves throwing new transformations out there and lately there's been a fanservice undercurrent. Broly seems like the logical choice to bring back another fan favourite form. Give it time.
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Unsurprisingly, best animated DB thing ever from what people have been saying.jjgp1112 wrote:Hey guys, how about that animation?
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That feat isn't really that hard to beat overall.JazzMazz wrote:Unsurprisingly, best animated DB thing ever from what people have been saying.jjgp1112 wrote:Hey guys, how about that animation?
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Good lord, this movie kicked the shit out of anything else Dragon Ball has done. The Gogeta portion just doesn't let up! I loved how much distortion and abstract line work was used to really make the characters seem so powerful that they were breaking the laws of physics.
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They’ve really set the bar with this film. Can’t wait to see how they go from here.majinwarman wrote:That feat isn't really that hard to beat overall.JazzMazz wrote:Unsurprisingly, best animated DB thing ever from what people have been saying.jjgp1112 wrote:Hey guys, how about that animation?
I called it that Gogeta, Bardock, and something Broly related would be in the movie before it was even announced that it was a Broly movie.
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I personally thought Cheelai was rather cute with her behavior.
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Animenewsnetwork gave this movie a B in the animation category, from all the talk on how good the animation from fans and animators alike a B is little surprising.
I wonder what qualifies as an A?
I wonder what qualifies as an A?
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It's probably because they used 3D models in some scenesSaiyanGod117 wrote:Animenewsnetwork gave this movie a B in the animation category, from all the talk on how good the animation from fans and animators alike a B is little surprising.
I wonder what qualifies as an A?
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Their review criticized the CGI when talking about the animation, so that's probably the reason for the B rating.SaiyanGod117 wrote:Animenewsnetwork gave this movie a B in the animation category, from all the talk on how good the animation from fans and animators alike a B is little surprising.
I wonder what qualifies as an A?
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I mean, the site gave BOG a B in the animation category as well, and this movie is leaps and bounds better than that, so make of it what you will.Marlowe89 wrote:Their review criticized the CGI when talking about the animation, so that's probably the reason for the B rating.SaiyanGod117 wrote:Animenewsnetwork gave this movie a B in the animation category, from all the talk on how good the animation from fans and animators alike a B is little surprising.
I wonder what qualifies as an A?
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Not hard to beat in general, but very hard to beat the end of the ToP's animation. I've heard people say that it blows Goku vs Jiren out of the water, but I'll wait until I see the movie before I make that judgement.majinwarman wrote:That feat isn't really that hard to beat overall.JazzMazz wrote:Unsurprisingly, best animated DB thing ever from what people have been saying.jjgp1112 wrote:Hey guys, how about that animation?
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