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Re: Super Episode 131 (25 March 2018)

Post by Vegeta_Sama » Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:19 pm

precita wrote:
Vegeta_Sama wrote:Have you guys seen how Caulifla immediately ran to Cabba to ask him to go and train? The dude's totally getting laid :wink:
I doubt it, if anything Caulifa and Kale are intended to be lesbian lovers. If you watch other anime, the shoujo-vibes between Kale having a crush on her tomboyish senior is blatant yuri pandering. It's a common stereotype in anime.
I know, , it was joke. But if I have to be honest, I think that Kale is the only lesbian one. Caulifla seems uninterested in her in a romantic way. But in case she is, they can always have a three way :wink:
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Re: Super Episode 131 (25 March 2018)

Post by jeffbr92 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:21 pm

Am I the only who laughed at that part?

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Was Vegeta thinking: "Never though I would see that in my life" or "That was supposed to be me, damn!"

Vegeta_Sama wrote:I know, it was joke. But if I have to be honest, I think that Kale is the only lesbian one. Caulifla seems uninterested in her in a romantic way. But in case she is, they can always have a three way :wink:
You're watching too much porn, man lol
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Re: Super Episode 131 (25 March 2018)

Post by AnimeNation101 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:52 pm

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No this was absolutely worse. The series is incomplete.

The entire point of the ToP was that there were too many universes in general and they would get rid of the low mortal levels universes. The problem wasn’t the low mortal levels it was too many universes to begin with. “Supposedly”

Further we are led to believe that Zeno is a destructive child like entity who doesn’t think before he acts hence the entire Trunks arc ending, who then suddenly at the end is revealed to be this wise sage foreseeing the outcome.

So to get this straight.
Everyone categorizes Zeno as someone who erases things on a whim like he did with the previous 6 universes and Trunks timeline.
So much so that even asking him to not destroy the universes or change the rules could result in destruction.

He then puts all these universes through the anguish of going through being erased in the first place and fighting in a somewhat savage tournament to prove they shouldn’t be destroyed.

Then reveals he is actually very wise and he didn’t really want the universes destroyed...
But what about all the other stuff he destroyed like the 6 universes and Trunks timeline and all the people on it.

Having seen it is makes ZERO sense with Zenos character. It wasn’t even a clever wish or ending and feels like it was completely changed at the last minute from its original ending. It is totally inconsistent with the entire build up to the ToP.

Now beyond that for he future we have even less tension
We now have a Zeno that cares about them and universes existing and who is God of everything, three sets of Dragonballs, Gokus two ultimate forms, and a Whis that can rewind time and raise the dead.

Ugh, the ending needed to be an intelligent solution to there predicament not a 6 year old level cope out.

This just amounted to “wish everyone back” and all that stuff Zeno did to build his characterization well he was just kidding as he clearly cares about the universes but not all the other things he erased on a whim.
Oh well. It is what it is and the majority are happy. Almost everyone would have raged if Super was completely erased. This was the better business decision rather than your idea of erasing everything. That would have made the whole series useless
If you want to make Saturday morning monster of the week kids shows it makes business sense.

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Ok then. The rest of us will be here enjoying this glorious new age Dragon ball renaissance with a new movie, Goku being a 2020 Olympics mascot, and more.
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Re: Super Episode 131 (25 March 2018)

Post by AnimeNation101 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:06 pm

precita wrote:
Vegeta_Sama wrote:Have you guys seen how Caulifla immediately ran to Cabba to ask him to go and train? The dude's totally getting laid :wink:
I doubt it, if anything Caulifa and Kale are intended to be lesbian lovers. If you watch other anime, the shoujo-vibes between Kale having a crush on her tomboyish senior is blatant yuri pandering. It's a common stereotype in anime.
Noooooo. Its clear that Kale and Caulifla have more of a younger sister, older sister relationship or master, pupil relationship. Kale gets jealous when someone take Caulifla's attention off of her because thats just her character. She suffers from a "notice me senpai" personality because she feels useless and it would destroy her if she lost the attention of the only person who believes that she isn't useless. Putting this into consideration plus the fact that there is no outright proof showing that they are lesbian, it less likey that they are les.

Now let my man Cabba get laid.
I called it that Gogeta, Bardock, and something Broly related would be in the movie before it was even announced that it was a Broly movie. 8)

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Re: Super Episode 131 (25 March 2018)

Post by PerhapsTheOtherOne » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:07 pm

You know, I wonder....

Will the formerly erased Universes' inhabitants be informed of what transpired in the Tournament of Power following their erasure? I imagine their Angels would want to at least inform the Hakaishin and Kaioshin, and possibly even the teams that they put forward to compete.

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Re: Super Episode 131 (25 March 2018)

Post by Vegeta_Sama » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:09 pm

jeffbr92 wrote:
Vegeta_Sama wrote:I know, it was joke. But if I have to be honest, I think that Kale is the only lesbian one. Caulifla seems uninterested in her in a romantic way. But in case she is, they can always have a three way :wink:
You're watching too much porn, man lol
I'm not even gonna try to argue, you're right :lol:
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Now let my man Cabba get laid.
You're damn right! #JusticeforCabba
Btw, I agree, I definitely see Caulifla and Kale more as sister rather than lovers.
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Re: Super Episode 131 (25 March 2018)

Post by Onibaku » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:11 pm

AnimeNation101 wrote:
precita wrote:
Vegeta_Sama wrote:Have you guys seen how Caulifla immediately ran to Cabba to ask him to go and train? The dude's totally getting laid :wink:
I doubt it, if anything Caulifa and Kale are intended to be lesbian lovers. If you watch other anime, the shoujo-vibes between Kale having a crush on her tomboyish senior is blatant yuri pandering. It's a common stereotype in anime.
Noooooo. Its clear that Kale and Caulifla have more of a younger sister, older sister relationship or master, pupil relationship. Kale gets jealous when someone take Caulifla's attention off of her because thats just her character. She suffers from a "notice me senpai" personality because she feels useless and it would destroy her if she lost the attention of the only person who believes that she isn't useless. Putting this into consideration plus the fact that there is no outright proof showing that they are lesbian, it less likey that they are les.

Now let my man Cabba get laid.
I read that the way they speak to and address to each other is common among lesbian lovers in anime. But, I agree that they're more like sisters

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Re: Super Episode 131 (25 March 2018)

Post by Phozz » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:28 pm

I cried.. just a little though

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Re: Super Episode 131 (25 March 2018)

Post by Draconic » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:34 pm

Vegeta_Sama wrote:
jeffbr92 wrote:
Vegeta_Sama wrote:I know, it was joke. But if I have to be honest, I think that Kale is the only lesbian one. Caulifla seems uninterested in her in a romantic way. But in case she is, they can always have a three way :wink:
You're watching too much porn, man lol
I'm not even gonna try to argue, you're right :lol:
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Now let my man Cabba get laid.
You're damn right! #JusticeforCabba
Btw, I agree, I definitely see Caulifla and Kale more as sister rather than lovers.
This arc Cabba got Super Saiyan 2 and 2 Super Saiyans.
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Re: Super Episode 131 (25 March 2018)

Post by Nickolaidas » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:35 pm

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Re: Super Episode 131 (25 March 2018)

Post by Vegeta_Sama » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:35 pm

Draconic wrote:
Vegeta_Sama wrote:
jeffbr92 wrote:


You're watching too much porn, man lol
I'm not even gonna try to argue, you're right :lol:
AnimeNation101 wrote:
Now let my man Cabba get laid.
You're damn right! #JusticeforCabba
Btw, I agree, I definitely see Caulifla and Kale more as sister rather than lovers.
This arc Cabba got Super Saiyan 2 and 2 Super Saiyans.
I'd say it's a pretty nice reward :lol:
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Re: Super Episode 131 (25 March 2018)

Post by AnimeNation101 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:36 pm

Draconic wrote:
Vegeta_Sama wrote:
jeffbr92 wrote:


You're watching too much porn, man lol
I'm not even gonna try to argue, you're right :lol:
AnimeNation101 wrote:
Now let my man Cabba get laid.
You're damn right! #JusticeforCabba
Btw, I agree, I definitely see Caulifla and Kale more as sister rather than lovers.
This arc Cabba got Super Saiyan 2 and 2 Super Saiyans.
As Black would do: :clap: :clap: :clap:
I called it that Gogeta, Bardock, and something Broly related would be in the movie before it was even announced that it was a Broly movie. 8)

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Re: Super Episode 131 (25 March 2018)

Post by t0ffe3m4n » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:41 pm

Best episode of the arc saved until the last.. who'd have thought? :lol:

Kinda bummed it's ended.

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Re: Super Episode 131 (25 March 2018)

Post by Arugela » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:49 pm

There is one oddity about Freeza. Freeza has always been depicted as acting literally just like beerus from all earlier acounts given by the writers. I read someone say they were surprised he was revived by beerus. They are basically the same character. same with vegeta. I think beerus is doing it on purpose. And he knows freeza will do this. As basically Freeza came from beerus acting like this potentially. That and I feel it's probably always been beerus's desire. he probably purposely forged freeza and others like this to in essence carry out destruction for him. You know, while he's napping for decades or longer!! >< I'm highly under the opinion this is just beerus giving himself the room to be lazy. And most of universe 7 has always been nothing else. Maybe even buu.

Maybe beerus originally made buu. Or a past GoD if he's not old enough, and designed him too sleep while he's awake and awake while he's asleep.. Or he utilized this natural phenomenon a long time ago to nap and carried on the idea after words in various forms and individuals.
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Re: Super Episode 131 (25 March 2018)

Post by Oracle » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:51 pm

After Andriod 18 commented on how Andriod 17 changed his mind with the wish, make me miss Boo even more. In general, I hate that we do not have him in the tournament, and he would be perfect to replace her.

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Re: Super Episode 131 (25 March 2018)

Post by Arugela » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:53 pm

I wonder why they made it look like buu was going to be in then changed it?

Also, has anyone official noted yet if GT is official or not official now? Or does anything give hints to this or proclude it. Or did they make sure to leave it open? I'm not familiar with the specifics enough for this.

Is there enough time for the movie to happen still then give us wether it was or not. Or did they rewrite the entire uub ending with this. I'm assuming not. Where are we from Uub and GT.
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I doubt it, if anything Caulifa and Kale are intended to be lesbian lovers. If you watch other anime, the shoujo-vibes between Kale having a crush on her tomboyish senior is blatant yuri pandering. It's a common stereotype in anime.
Noooooo. Its clear that Kale and Caulifla have more of a younger sister, older sister relationship or master, pupil relationship. Kale gets jealous when someone take Caulifla's attention off of her because thats just her character. She suffers from a "notice me senpai" personality because she feels useless and it would destroy her if she lost the attention of the only person who believes that she isn't useless. Putting this into consideration plus the fact that there is no outright proof showing that they are lesbian, it less likey that they are les.

Now let my man Cabba get laid.
I read that the way they speak to and address to each other is common among lesbian lovers in anime. But, I agree that they're more like sisters
This is anime. There is an obvious answer. Think of what one of the pillars in anime. It's often a joke using thing representing royal families. There isn't a discrepancy here necessarily! >< This is japan were talking about. They had different older cultural values on some levels. And there is a reason them and the british get along. Especially at the top rungs. ;d
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Re: Super Episode 131 (25 March 2018)

Post by Vegeta_Sama » Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:04 pm

Arugela wrote:I wonder why they made it look like buu was going to be in then changed it?

Also, has anyone official noted yet if GT is official or not official now? Or does anything give hints to this or proclude it. Or did they make sure to leave it open? I'm not familiar with the specifics enough for this.

Is there enough time for the movie to happen still then give us wether it was or not. Or did they rewrite the entire uub ending with this. I'm assuming not. Where are we from Uub and GT.
There's no room for GT to be canon anymore. Too many inconsistencies. Beerus and Whis's existance, Super Saiyan God, Super Saiyan Blue, Kibito and Shin defusing, Frieza beign alive, etc... Think of it as an alternate timeline
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Re: Super Episode 131 (25 March 2018)

Post by bleed0range » Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:05 pm

I’m surprised so many people still think this will somehow not contradict GT. Toriyama will never take those plot points into consideration. At this point GT is a big what if and it’s own thing.

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Re: Super Episode 131 (25 March 2018)

Post by Arugela » Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:06 pm

is there any way GT is legitimate in ragards to the time rings?! Maybe it's still cannon in the time frames before GT happened. If there is no other room they could have simply considered it in that or in the universe destroyed. We had several time ring incidents in super so far.
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Re: Super Episode 131 (25 March 2018)

Post by Doctor. » Sun Mar 25, 2018 4:11 pm

Arugela wrote:is there any way GT is legitimate in ragards to the time rings?! Maybe it's still cannon in the time frames before GT happened. If there is no other room they could have simply considered it in that or in the universe destroyed. We had several time ring incidents in super so far.
No, there are no extra time rings for GT. Ours, Trunks', Cell's, the unseen timeline and Zamasu's make all 5 we saw at the end of the Zamasu arc.

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