PFM18 wrote:There's plenty to refute. But you wont because reasons.
How is Merged Zamasu being overpowered by Goku briefly any different than Tien briefly overpowering Semi Perfect Cell? Or is it a case by case basis? Oh right the case by case is:
Case 1: It is DBZ
Case 2: It is DBS
Where Case 1 is always a great examlple of writing and consistency and Case 2 is "offensively bad."
I don't like Tenshinhan overpowering Cell either, but there is
a difference between the two. Tenshinhan didn't cause any damage whereas Goku did. That's simple enough reason to make someone prefer one scene over the other.
You keep missing the point. It is
a case-by-case basis. The 21st and 22nd and 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai are all the same tournament, in the same format, in the same location, with the same announcer and mostly the same set of characters. But people still argue about which one is the best, because there are other variables into the mix, namely new characters, different character dynamics, different conflicts and drama, different fights, different stakes, so on and so forth. You can't equate the three because at the surface they seem similar.
Powerscaling inconsistencies are exactly the same thing; there are numerous variables at play which decide how egregious the inconsistency is to the story: stakes, how big the boost is, which character it is, how much the power boost accomplishes in the story, what kind of explanation was given, does it contradict any theme or goes against any traits that the character had before, etc. The fact is that all power boosts are arbitrary. We know this; we know Toriyama isn't writing with a calculator at hand and he just writes whatever he wants. That's irrelevant, because every story development, not just power boosts, have to fit into the narrative that had been created up to that point, they have to feel credible and believable in the context of the universe. What sets the original series apart from Super is that, in my view, the original series normally has a coherent explanation for characters getting stronger: genetics, in the case of Zenkai, Super Saiyan, Namekian fusion and Gohan's terribly arbitrary power boosts; training under severe conditions for a long period of time; training under a more powerful master; absorbing other people's power, in the case of Cell and Boo; list goes on. You always have some kind of explanation, which you're free to believe or not, as to how a character got from point A in strength to point B.
The problem with Super is that it doesn't do explanations, and the few times it does, they never feel satisfactory enough because the power boost usually shits on everything that the series or the character stood for previously. Future Trunks is as strong as Goku from the get-go, with no explanation, despite the fact that Trunks has barely been getting food to eat whilst Goku has been training with Whis and Beerus. Then future Trunks manages to hold off Rosé Black in Super Saiyan 2, for no reason, with no explanation, despite the fact that a few episodes back he was getting his ass kicked by a (weaker) base Black. Then future Trunks gets a new, exclusive, previously unknown transformation (and the only explanation they give is that he was really mad) that, as a whole, just feels useless, since it did nothing Trunks wasn't doing as a Super Saiyan 2 before. Why are these things so bad? Because they shit on all of the hard-work, progress and effort Goku (and Vegeta) has gone through in the entire series, they ignore how Trunks never got such arbitrary and ridiculous power boosts in the original series, they shit on Trunks' entire conflict because why should I care about his struggle if he can just get stronger magically, and it needlessly complicates the Super Saiyan transformation tree, among other things. These are some of the implications of Trunks' boosts in the Black arc.
You can make a list for the implications of every power boost in Super and in the original series and only then would it be fair to equate the two series. But as it stands, yes, it's a case-by-case basis because every inconsistency has its own set of implications. It's a very narrow way of thinking to suggest that they're all the same.
Does Super have some power boosts that aren't that bad? Sure, I don't really mind Kuririn's portrayal against Goku in #84. Does DB have power boosts that are very egregious and shit on everything that had been established previously? Piccolo's boost in the 3-year time period come to mind. I'm not saying Super is complete shit and the original series is perfect, never have I said that and never will I say that, so I'd like it if you could stop acting as if I'm excusing everything Z does because that isn't happening. What I'm saying is that the original series mostly does stuff right, and Super mostly does stuff wrong, and that everything Super does right, the original series probably did better; and I'm giving my reasons as to why, I'm not blindly stating Z is perfect and can do no wrong as you're suggesting.