Asura wrote: Lord Beerus wrote:
Asura wrote:...Except for that whole thing at the exhibition matches where Goku essentially tells the other universes to go fuck themselves and doesn't seem to care about the trillions of innocent lives that will be lost because of his actions (before it was revealed that what he did by starting the tournament was actually a good thing). But it was an example of yet another dropped plot point, and the ToP arc was full of those. They made a whole big deal out of it too, even trying to paint Goku as the villain with Toppo calling him evil. But it was a red herring and never went anywhere, and Goku's antagonistic nature disappeared after that.
I really wouldn't classify Goku behaviour at the Zen Exhibition Matches or referring to himself "evil" as a red herring. It was just more of an observation some of the characters made in-universe based on what they knew at that time, and Goku deciding to mess around with Toppo.
Goku suggested an option where no lives would need to be erased and it was option that Whis didn't recommend. And when Goku openly asked what he should do, he was just told to focus on performing well in the Zen Exhibition Match and to win the Tournament Of Power, as it was too late to understand the danger he unwillingly got everyone into. Goku accepted the responsibility of making sure Universe 7 wouldn't get erased and expressed the attitude of "No matter who I'm up against, I'll win!". The only thing Goku didn't care about was being seen as as enemy in every universe. That doesn't equate to him not caring about the other universes.
And even when Goku was acting as overconfident as he was after beating Bergamo, the only Hakaishin in the end who seemed to give a shit about his flippant attitude was Sidra and Rumsshi. And Rumsshi was more upset at how casually friendly Goku was with Zeno than anything else.
Goku had no remorse for anything he did. They were purposefully making Goku out to be a villain to contrast with Toppo, the paragon of justice. He acted very antagonistic and never thought even once about how he just doomed multiple universes to their erasure when it otherwise would not have happened (at least, that's what Goku knew at the time).
I can make a big post explaining it all, but this 13 minute video by MasakoX pretty much sums up my views exactly if you care to watch it.
I've watched the video before. MasakoX make some decent points. But I feel as though he doesn't take into the the fact that the story itself in the past has flat out stated that Goku is the kind of guy that is more concerned about fighting people who offer him a challenge above anything else.
I wouldn't paint Goku as an Anti-Hero at all. The spectrum of heroism is extremely broad and very complicated, that attributing Goku, or at least some traits of him, with a title like that feels quite disingenuous to his character and is, in my opinion, an assessment of his personality that is to black-and-white for my liking.
I've already stated that I believe Goku is Accidental Hero. But if you want another interepation, you could view Goku as Classical Hero, much like Hercules. He is more than willing to protect his friends and family and save the day, should the time call of it, but the fashion of which he will go about it at times is questionable at best (Majin Boo arc) and very morally skewered at worst (Android arc).
Goku was fully aware of what the ramifications were for the Tournament Of Power as he proposed suggestion to get rid of the Universe erasing stipulation, and him questioning what he should do after that suggestion was not advised does show that Goku has some level guilt over what has happened.