If we get a Goku/Vegeta Fusion Dance... Gogeta or Vegetto?

[superfan2024]

I’ve copied a post i’ve made from the main movie thread:

Toei has chosen three select movies to return to US theaters later this year to help promote movie 20. They’re showing us the OG Broly film, the Bardock TV special, but also weirdly the Fusion Reborn film. We know that M20’s focusing on Broly, Saiyan history, Freeza, and etc so that’s why we have OG Broly film and Bardock special, but we’re also getting Fusion Reborn, so that means we might get some type of fusion or something fusion related in the movie. And if we do get a Goku and Vegeta fusion through the fusion dance in the movie, do y’all actually think we’re getting Gogeta? I’m pretty sure we’re getting Vegetto still. Gogeta from what I remember was something Toei created just so they could use it in Fusion Reborn initially. Gogeta was pretty much their Goku and Vegeta version of Gotenks. I’m pretty sure Toei made Gogeta first, then Toriyama had to create a different design/fusion (this is Vegetto) because there would be some issues and confusion using Gogeta from Toei/Fusion Reborn.

Also, Toriyama’s already rebooing Broly (a non canon character) so he can also reboot Gogeta (another non canon character) and just make him Vegetto. Having Goku and Vegeta transform into Vegetto through the potara but become Gogeta through the fusion dance makes no sense if it’s the same people. That’s what I truly believe.

Thoughts?

[precita]

If they do Fusion dance and don't use the earings, it will likely be Gogeta. Toei will want to bring him into canon and make toys/merch, etc. over him.

Easy to now sell Gogeta Blue stuff and not just Vegito Blue stuff.

[jplaya2023]

it's gogeta earrings is vegetto

[Analytic]

I think that’d just cause needless confusion. Why have two versions of Gogeta with one named Vegetto, especially when there’s another character already named Vegetto?

[GodVegetto91]

The fact that people even believe there’s going to be a fusion in the upcoming movie actually pisses me off now that Ultra Instinct is a thing. I really don’t see why they would bring in a fusion when UI is far better and more effective against threats. Not just that, but it’s a new thing, and obviously they’re not going to ditch something just recently introduced that gets a lot of people hyped and makes a ton of money for a few decades old concept. Furthermore, a higher form for an individual Saiyan is far more respectable towards a Saiyan than an effortless fusion that does the rest for you. (Pride) now Goku actually has to work/suffer in order for him to be able to tap into it.

[miguelnuva1]

The fact that people even believe there’s going to be a fusion in the upcoming movie actually pisses me off now that Ultra Instinct is a thing. I really don’t see why they would bring in a fusion when UI is far better and more effective against threats. Not just that, but it’s a new thing, and obviously they’re not going to ditch something just recently introduced that gets a lot of people hyped and makes a ton of money for a few decades old concept. Furthermore, a higher form for an individual Saiyan is far more respectable towards a Saiyan than an effortless fusion that does the rest for you. (Pride) now Goku actually has to work/suffer in order for him to be able to tap into it.

UI is not more effective, Goku has a hard time reaching it and then it burns him out quickly down to nothing. Fusion is a safer bet if Goku ans Vegeta weren't idiots because you could always try UI after fusion if necessary. Your not going to try fusion after UI when Goku is drained.

[GodVegetto91]

The fact that people even believe there’s going to be a fusion in the upcoming movie actually pisses me off now that Ultra Instinct is a thing. I really don’t see why they would bring in a fusion when UI is far better and more effective against threats. Not just that, but it’s a new thing, and obviously they’re not going to ditch something just recently introduced that gets a lot of people hyped and makes a ton of money for a few decades old concept. Furthermore, a higher form for an individual Saiyan is far more respectable towards a Saiyan than an effortless fusion that does the rest for you. (Pride) now Goku actually has to work/suffer in order for him to be able to tap into it.

UI is not more effective, Goku has a hard time reaching it and then it burns him out quickly down to nothing. Fusion is a safer bet if Goku ans Vegeta weren't idiots because you could always try UI after fusion if necessary. Your not going to try fusion after UI when Goku is drained.

Your argument is irrelevant, since the same applies to SSJ Blue Vegito. It has a time limit of just a few minutes at the most. UI is more effective because it’s faster, stronger, and overall superior to Vegito Blue. And i am talking about MUI in general. Not counting in the fact that Goku has to sweat for it and can’t maintain it. A fully mastered UI can keep it up for hours. And easily trumps a Potara Fusion.

[90sDBZ]

Honestly I think making the Goku/Vegeta Fusion Dance Vegito instead of Gogeta would piss a lot of fans off. Vegito is awesome and I personally like him a bit more, but pointlessly doing away with a really popular character like Gogeta is just unnecessary. I like that 2 different methods of Fusion result in 2 different characters. Even though Gogeta has never appeared in the "canon" story, fans still like knowing of the possibility that he could potentially appear if Goku and Vegeta performed the dance instead of using the earrings.

[Vegeta_Sama]

As long as Toei is involved, there's 0 chance of getting Vegito out of the Fusion Dance.

[GodVegetto91]

I don’t see why people are so obsessed with Gogeta. It’s a fact that Vegetto is stronger as a Potara Fusion (stated by Old Kaioshin) and Vegetto is also the only canon fusion between the two. So the fans who only watched the show have a lot of nostalgia going with it as a result. Also, the earrings just look great on him! And Vegetto has got the best showings in his debut within the series, both the anime and the manga. But i get it, opinions.

[Vegeta_Sama]

I don’t see why people are so obsessed with Gogeta. It’s a fact that Vegetto is stronger as a Potara Fusion (stated by Old Kaioshin) and Vegetto is also the only canon fusion between the two. So the fans who only watched the show have a lot of nostalgia going with it as a result. Also, the earrings just look great on him! And Vegetto has got the best showings in his debut within the series, both the anime and the manga. But i get it, opinions.

I think that the reason for Gogeta's success is how badass he was in Fusion Reborn: he shows up, and quickly dominates his enemy without wasting time and goofing around, and he gets shit done. That left a strong impression, and it was something new because until then, fusions were something that was never used to finish off an enemy.

[bleed0range]

What could possibly be interesting about Gogeta being in this new movie? Fusion is a gimmick of the Boo saga and should just go away at this point. It’s been done to death. Even more so than Broly.

[Meshack]

Potara fusion is Vegetto, the Fusion Dance is Gogeta.

[superfan2024]

Potara fusion is Vegetto, the Fusion Dance is Gogeta.

1. Goku and Vegeta performing the fusion dance has never appeared in canon.

2. Why would there be two different looking beings once they fuse regardless of the way they fuse?

[Analytic]

Why would there be two different looking beings once they fuse regardless of the way they fuse?

Because they're using different methods of Fusion made by two completely different races... I'd say it makes more sense for them to look different than to be exactly the same.

[Ki Breaker]

If they are going to bother with a dance it's going to be Gogeta

[miguelnuva1]

The fact that people even believe there’s going to be a fusion in the upcoming movie actually pisses me off now that Ultra Instinct is a thing. I really don’t see why they would bring in a fusion when UI is far better and more effective against threats. Not just that, but it’s a new thing, and obviously they’re not going to ditch something just recently introduced that gets a lot of people hyped and makes a ton of money for a few decades old concept. Furthermore, a higher form for an individual Saiyan is far more respectable towards a Saiyan than an effortless fusion that does the rest for you. (Pride) now Goku actually has to work/suffer in order for him to be able to tap into it.

UI is not more effective, Goku has a hard time reaching it and then it burns him out quickly down to nothing. Fusion is a safer bet if Goku ans Vegeta weren't idiots because you could always try UI after fusion if necessary. Your not going to try fusion after UI when Goku is drained.

Your argument is irrelevant, since the same applies to SSJ Blue Vegito. It has a time limit of just a few minutes at the most. UI is more effective because it’s faster, stronger, and overall superior to Vegito Blue. And i am talking about MUI in general. Not counting in the fact that Goku has to sweat for it and can’t maintain it. A fully mastered UI can keep it up for hours. And easily trumps a Potara Fusion.

So your talking about something that doesn't exist in the series.

Here are facts Goku can't go into UI at will and when he does it drains him to nearly no power and thus he can't fuse.

Going into Vegito or Gogeta would give him a big power boost and once the fusion ends of he needs to he can than attempt UI.