Goku's probably gonna regain Ultra Instinct in the movie
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Goku's probably gonna regain Ultra Instinct in the movie
I mean, it's pretty inevitable at this point. Broly will be too strong, Goku will be pushed back to a corner again, and he will have to break through his limits once more and go UI.
There has been no reveal yet for UI because that's just gonna be spoiling one of the best/most exciting parts of the film considering they've showed us a lot already.
Just think about it.
There has been no reveal yet for UI because that's just gonna be spoiling one of the best/most exciting parts of the film considering they've showed us a lot already.
Just think about it.
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I used to say there was a 70/30 split of it being UI Goku or Gogeta but with a new list of merchandise releasing with 2 new unannounced characters, I think the chances of Gogeta just went up to 40 as if Goku was one of them the listing would say it's an unannounced Goku figure, not a completely new character which Gogeta would be.
There's of course also the 3 movies screening in the U.S, Bardock's, Broly's first movie and fusion reborn. Bardock's ties with the past section of the movie which he'll most likely show up in. Broly's movie ties up with him being the villain of this movie. That leaves Fusion Reborn which must tie in some way like the other 2 and if the figure listing is anything to go by then chances are, despite still being below UI Goku, Gogeta will show up and possibly take Broly down.
There's of course also the 3 movies screening in the U.S, Bardock's, Broly's first movie and fusion reborn. Bardock's ties with the past section of the movie which he'll most likely show up in. Broly's movie ties up with him being the villain of this movie. That leaves Fusion Reborn which must tie in some way like the other 2 and if the figure listing is anything to go by then chances are, despite still being below UI Goku, Gogeta will show up and possibly take Broly down.
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That's a good enough outcome if he manages to actually keep the power this time around..
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I think it's sort of shown at the very end of the trailer. When Goku is posing against Broly's massive Ki field, you start to see the UI blue heat start to come out of him.
Either that or it's just the new look of Blue's aura in the movie. I honestly think its UI though, the scene gets cut off oddly, as it just flashes white as soon as it happens maybe to not reveal anything.
Either that or it's just the new look of Blue's aura in the movie. I honestly think its UI though, the scene gets cut off oddly, as it just flashes white as soon as it happens maybe to not reveal anything.
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In the beginning of the trailer it is said Goku has been training all the time, this probably means:
- SSB Evo
- MUI
- a new form or a form that even surpasses MUI
Nope, i don't think we'll see Gogeta. Where is Vegeta btw? He seems to be hanging in the ropes at the end.
- SSB Evo
- MUI
- a new form or a form that even surpasses MUI
Nope, i don't think we'll see Gogeta. Where is Vegeta btw? He seems to be hanging in the ropes at the end.
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You're probably right. The powerboost of SSBE isn't sufficient against Broly.superfan2024 wrote:No.Mister_Popo wrote: - SSB Evo
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Given he looks to be nowhere during the final fight from the trailer. Vegeta also didn't get any Ichiban Kuji figures scheduled (we have Broly, SS/SSGSS Goku and 2 unamed new charactes) and his Ultimate Soldiers figure was non battle damage unlike Goku's... Given that the prodcuer hyped the final fight up with Goku. I think it's safe to say Vegeta gets out of commission early (early in the sense of before Broly goes full power) unless there is a secondary plot point Vegeta gets wrapped up in.Mister_Popo wrote:In the beginning of the trailer it is said Goku has been training all the time, this probably means:
- SSB Evo
- MUI
- a new form or a form that even surpasses MUI
Nope, i don't think we'll see Gogeta. Where is Vegeta btw? He seems to be hanging in the ropes at the end.
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It would be out of character for Goku and Vegeta to fuse when their opponent is not fused. I'm sure Toriyama had little to do with that silly Heroes special or Fusion Reborn.sintzu wrote:I used to say there was a 70/30 split of it being UI Goku or Gogeta but with a new list of merchandise releasing with 2 new unannounced characters, I think the chances of Gogeta just went up to 40 as if Goku was one of them the listing would say it's an unannounced Goku figure, not a completely new character which Gogeta would be.
There's of course also the 3 movies screening in the U.S, Bardock's, Broly's first movie and fusion reborn. Bardock's ties with the past section of the movie which he'll most likely show up in. Broly's movie ties up with him being the villain of this movie. That leaves Fusion Reborn which must tie in some way like the other 2 and if the figure listing is anything to go by then chances are, despite still being below UI Goku, Gogeta will show up and possibly take Broly down.
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That's a good point. I still think UI Goku is the most likely outcome but that doesn't answer why they picked fusion reborn to be screened alongside Bardock and Broly's movies. It could be due to popularity but I'm not going to completely rule out fusion.fadeddreams5 wrote:It would be out of character for Goku and Vegeta to fuse when their opponent is not fused.
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Obviously it's to hint at the return of Hitler in this movie.sintzu wrote:but that doesn't answer why they picked fusion reborn to be screened alongside Bardock and Broly's movies. It could be due to popularity but I'm not going to completely rule out fusion.
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If Ultra Instinct is in this, I really hope it's usable at will. That or he can use the technique of Ultra Instinct at will, but the power up form is only when he is at his limit.
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It could happen. But I don't want it. Let's leave that transformation for a little while and bring some other content. I would way rather see Gogeta vs LSSJ Broly
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I think making it usable at will this early will make Goku a bit overpowered. By doing That Toriyama will give it Vegeta and possibly Freeza as well which will be overkill at this point.Logania wrote:If Ultra Instinct is in this, I really hope it's usable at will. That or he can use the technique of Ultra Instinct at will, but the power up form is only when he is at his limit.
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I'm really hoping he will because if he doesn't then that would mean we might end up getting fusion and that's always sucked.
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Doesn't really have to give it to Vegeta or Freeza yet. Goku was ahead of Vegeta from the Tournament of Destroyers until the end of the Tournament of Power with the SSJB Kaioken, but it never stopped making Vegeta useless or Goku completely overpowered.sintzu wrote:I think making it usable at will this early will make Goku a bit overpowered. By doing That Toriyama will give it Vegeta and possibly Freeza as well which will be overkill at this point.
Besides Ultra Instinct will probably be knocked down a notch or two later on in power just like every other SSJ transformation. Unlike those, Ultra Instinct is commonplace for all the Angel's and probably opponents higher on the food chain so even if Goku has it he's still not overpowered as we know there are heights of strength he's not even close to yet.
If he uses it in this movie, I want him to keep the technique at the very least, because it'll start to turn into an annoyance knowing Goku will just pop the mode when at the very end and win with it and we'll hear him stumbling into it on accident which will get old real quick.
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I'd rather see just about any other ending, as it'd be a repeated climax and come down to a saving transformation again.
However, I trust Toriyama to make whatever ending he chooses work, so if that's what it ends up being, I still expect I'll enjoy it.
However, I trust Toriyama to make whatever ending he chooses work, so if that's what it ends up being, I still expect I'll enjoy it.
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That is exactly why I don't want to see Goku and Vegeta fuse in this film. It felt appropriate in the Future Trunks arc because Goku Black and Zamasu fused, so Goku and Vegeta went and did the same thing. But fusing against Broly would make zero sense.fadeddreams5 wrote:It would be out of character for Goku and Vegeta to fuse when their opponent is not fused. I'm sure Toriyama had little to do with that silly Heroes special or Fusion Reborn.sintzu wrote:I used to say there was a 70/30 split of it being UI Goku or Gogeta but with a new list of merchandise releasing with 2 new unannounced characters, I think the chances of Gogeta just went up to 40 as if Goku was one of them the listing would say it's an unannounced Goku figure, not a completely new character which Gogeta would be.
There's of course also the 3 movies screening in the U.S, Bardock's, Broly's first movie and fusion reborn. Bardock's ties with the past section of the movie which he'll most likely show up in. Broly's movie ties up with him being the villain of this movie. That leaves Fusion Reborn which must tie in some way like the other 2 and if the figure listing is anything to go by then chances are, despite still being below UI Goku, Gogeta will show up and possibly take Broly down.
First off, Broly's a Saiyan. No way in hell would Vegeta fuse to try and defeat another person from his race. That would be a low blow to his pride. Secondly, Goku would see Broly as an opportunity to get stronger. He said in the trailer that the ToP made him realise just how much stronger he needs to get, so there's no way he would fuse when he would much rather fight Broly on his own. Thirdly, the ToP had their universe at risk of erasure. They were allowed to fuse there but they chose not to. If circumstances like that made them not want to fuse, then surely an opponent like Broly wouldn't force them to fuse.
I just don't want to see Goku and Vegeta fuse anymore. I would much rather see Ultra Instinct again. Goku should now be aiming to tap into that transformation without having to do it by accident.
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Honestly, I want UI to reappear.... very, very badly, but it'd be predictable if Goku uses it and quickly beats Broly. If it appears, all I ask is that it's not a 2 minute long sequence where Goku immediately defeats him in an instance (ala, Gogeta in Fusion Reborn).
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