We'll have to wait and see whether time will be good with Super's highlights or not. Even with the sub par movie retellings, there is at least the caveat of being able to watch the better produced movie counterparts with ease.dbzfan7 wrote:The only reason it does is because other anime/shows or whatever have referenced said memes more than once...and who could forget how it got on Opera of all places XD. I would rather not qualify it, but it's somehow gotten passed the barrier of just being something exclusive to the show.Lord Beerus wrote:I honestly think Over 9000 line isn't really a "Legendary Timeless Inspirational moment". I think it's just as much as a fad/meme as "This isn't even my final form" or "The Balls are Inert". There are many people that outright don't understand the significant context of the line in the original story. It's a moment really just looked backed fondly -- at least in the American fandom -- because of Drummond's original incredibly hammy delivery of the line.
And how the hell does the Yamcha meme qualify as a "Legendary Timeless Inspirational moment"? Just like Over 9000 line, it looked back on fondly but for not the right reasons at all. With it's original context twisting a game-changing and dramatic moment in the story into a basically a joke that eventually wore out it's welcome in the Western (more specifically the American) fandom.
I think a more appropriate criteria would be moments that can only be attributed to Dragon Ball that retain their significance, visual intensity and/or emotional resonance, regardless of what medium -- whether it be the manga or the anime -- and regardless of how the scene is translated to the respective language beyond the original Japanese performances and audio. In that case, I'd consider these moments in the Dragon Ball series to qualify in that regard:
- Goku meeting Bulma
- Goku killing King Piccolo
- Piccolo killing Raditz
- The Kamehameha/Galick Gun beam clash
- Goku becoming a SSJ against Freeza
- Gohan becoming a SSJ2 against Cell
- Vegeta nuking himself to kill Majin Boo
- Goku becoming a SSJ3 against Majin Boo
- Goku becoming a SSJ4
- The final scene of the final episode Dragon Ball GT
- Goku stacking Kaioken on top of SSJB
- The debut of Goku Black
- Goku attaining Ultra Instinct for the first time
- Ultra Instinct Goku eliminating Kefla
- Goku attaining the complete version of Ultra Instinct
- Goku and Freeza eliminating Jiren
I talk about things that go beyond it. Things other creators in western or eastern releases will reference. I mean we don't even have to breathe without noticing Super Saiyan alone is referenced so many times in many different media. It's exploded beyond just being something in Dragon ball. It is referenced a lot whether as a nod, a hommage, or not even subtly hiding it like the kid in Gumball saying he is trying to become a Super Saiyan, before actually doing it while look like both Kid Gohan SSJ and SSJ2.
When I say Legendary Timeless Inspiration. I mean like if say we had Ultra Instinct be referenced in other media or manga. That would have it go beyond Dragon Ball. Something like the first SSJ transformation is so timeless that it is used everywhere from American Cartoons to other Japanese anime. We get full homages. Will anything of Super be referenced or homage in future cartoons, anime, and manga...I'm not so sure.
Ultra Instinct is really the only thing that I feel might get the timeless go beyond the series treatment. That and perhaps Goku Blacks Debut. The rest....I don't think so. I'm not sure we're gonna see cartoons or other manga/anime referencing Super Material. I think there might be a chance in something like an action figure in the background, maybe a poster ala DBZ/GT back in the day.....but a full on hommage...I ain't certain it will get that treatment.
The original series certainly has some noteworthy moments. But I think the show having a constant presence of over 20 years in the West -- whether it be constant the home re-releases, endless re-runs and marathons on TV and the video-games being released every year since 2002 which always recap the most memorable story beats of Dragon Ball -- has certainly had an effect on how much of a cultural reference pool Dragon Ball has become.
But in age where social media has huge presence and anything produced in the digital age can become a trend, who knows how much of an impacts Super's standout original moments will have 5-10 years down the line. How much other aspects of Dragon Ball media will continue to refresh your memory about them.
