Why can’t they wish back Bardock and Gine?
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Why can’t they wish back Bardock and Gine?
I mean, i understand that these characters have been dead for years, but that’s really not anything the dragon balls can’t take care of. I would love for Goku to meet his true parents Bardock and Gine and see what his reaction to them would be, and vice versa. It would be a really emotional reunion. That’s for sure. I’d love to see what their reactions would be towards seeing their own son Goku aswell! Who is now a grown up — Even a grand father in fact! He could introduce them to all his Super Saiyan forms and make them proud and surprised with what he has accomplished. I can’t wait to see their reaction to that aswell! It would really be an interesting turn of events for them to be brought back to life and meet their son.
And have them live on earth from now on.
What do you think???
And have them live on earth from now on.
What do you think???
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Because Goku probably thinks they're assholes like Raditz, because the last time he was written to even think about his parents, they were.
Also because that would take an immensely good writer to pull off well, which Dragon Ball has never had. There wouldn't be an "emotional reunion", that's for sure.
Also because that would take an immensely good writer to pull off well, which Dragon Ball has never had. There wouldn't be an "emotional reunion", that's for sure.
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Re: Why can’t they wish back Bardock and Gine?
Goku does not care about his biological parents and thus he has no reason to bring them back, nothing more nothing less.
Dragon Ball was always a kid series and fans should stop being in denial.
Re: Why can’t they wish back Bardock and Gine?
Their souls were probably already recycled. It's almost certainly impossible to bring them back now.
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Re: Why can’t they wish back Bardock and Gine?
The others already answered it.GodVegetto91 wrote:I mean, i understand that these characters have been dead for years, but that’s really not anything the dragon balls can’t take care of. I would love for Goku to meet his true parents Bardock and Gine and see what his reaction to them would be, and vice versa. It would be a really emotional reunion. That’s for sure. I’d love to see what their reactions would be towards seeing their own son Goku aswell! Who is now a grown up — Even a grand father in fact! He could introduce them to all his Super Saiyan forms and make them proud and surprised with what he has accomplished. I can’t wait to see their reaction to that aswell! It would really be an interesting turn of events for them to be brought back to life and meet their son.
And have them live on earth from now on.
What do you think???
But, there is a fanfic out there that actually goes into it, but it goes off of the Bardock Special (where he goes Super Saiyan). But, it kind of combines that Bardock with the one from Minus (personality wise, at least). And drops him into the Great Saiyaman mini-Arc.
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If they want to, they could do it via asspull.Bergamo wrote:Their souls were probably already recycled. It's almost certainly impossible to bring them back now.
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Just like bringing back Freeza right?Jord wrote:If they want to, they could do it via asspull.Bergamo wrote:Their souls were probably already recycled. It's almost certainly impossible to bring them back now.
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1. Their souls have almost certainly been recycled by now.
2. Goku doesn't know they aren't total bastards like Vegeta or Raditz. (Which is actually a cool tragic element to the Bardock Retcon.
3. Bardock is still alive having been snatched by Mira and Towa, and somewhere out there lost in time due to Xenoverse events if you see that as Canon.
2. Goku doesn't know they aren't total bastards like Vegeta or Raditz. (Which is actually a cool tragic element to the Bardock Retcon.
3. Bardock is still alive having been snatched by Mira and Towa, and somewhere out there lost in time due to Xenoverse events if you see that as Canon.
Yamcha almost certainly did not cheat on Bulma:
He was afraid of Women, Bulma was the flirty one.
Yamcha wanted to get married (it was his gonna be his wish)
He suggested they settle down in the Trunks saga.
Alternate future Trunks is not a reliable source.
Toriyama wanted new SSJ Kids and not make new characters.
He was afraid of Women, Bulma was the flirty one.
Yamcha wanted to get married (it was his gonna be his wish)
He suggested they settle down in the Trunks saga.
Alternate future Trunks is not a reliable source.
Toriyama wanted new SSJ Kids and not make new characters.
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Re: Why can’t they wish back Bardock and Gine?
That argument is completely irrelevant if Toriyama decides to bring them back. He has retconned so many things before and ignored so many previously established plot points that this one hardly matters. If he wants to bring them back, he’s more than capable of bringing them back. No problem.Bergamo wrote:Their souls were probably already recycled. It's almost certainly impossible to bring them back now.
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If Xenoverse is canon, then so are DBFZ and the SDBH anime.TobyS wrote:1. Their souls have almost certainly been recycled by now.
2. Goku doesn't know they aren't total bastards like Vegeta or Raditz. (Which is actually a cool tragic element to the Bardock Retcon.
3. Bardock is still alive having been snatched by Mira and Towa, and somewhere out there lost in time due to Xenoverse events if you see that as Canon.
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Re: Why can’t they wish back Bardock and Gine?
If Goku isn't willing to wish back Gohan, there's no reason that he would wish back his biological parents.
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What do you mean “recycled”? As far as i remember, there was never a time limit to how long a person could be dead before they’re unable to be wished back.Bergamo wrote:Their souls were probably already recycled. It's almost certainly impossible to bring them back now.
I called it that Gogeta, Bardock, and something Broly related would be in the movie before it was even announced that it was a Broly movie.
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No. Not gonna happen. The only way i see Bardock or Gine coming back is if they never died in the first place.
Goku doesn’t know them neither does he show any interest in them.
Goku doesn’t know them neither does he show any interest in them.
I called it that Gogeta, Bardock, and something Broly related would be in the movie before it was even announced that it was a Broly movie.
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Goku barely knew them and has no memory of them or any connection to them at all.
The cycle of reincarnation. Their souls are purified, stripped of their memories and reincarnated as someone else.AnimeNation101 wrote:What do you mean “recycled”? As far as i remember, there was never a time limit to how long a person could be dead before they’re unable to be wished back.Bergamo wrote:Their souls were probably already recycled. It's almost certainly impossible to bring them back now.
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In fairness, that's more of a thing villains go through in hell. It seems like good people get to stay in heaven. That wouldn't apply to Bardock anyway, though.
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When was it established that all dead people get reincarnated?BlueBasilisk wrote:Goku barely knew them and has no memory of them or any connection to them at all.
The cycle of reincarnation. Their souls are purified, stripped of their memories and reincarnated as someone else.AnimeNation101 wrote:What do you mean “recycled”? As far as i remember, there was never a time limit to how long a person could be dead before they’re unable to be wished back.Bergamo wrote:Their souls were probably already recycled. It's almost certainly impossible to bring them back now.
I called it that Gogeta, Bardock, and something Broly related would be in the movie before it was even announced that it was a Broly movie.
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Bardock was a career killer who committed genocide for profit without a single sign of remorse. If protecting his son and dying to fight a bad guy wasn't enough to spare Vegeta from that fate, then it wouldn't spare Bardock who hadn't gone nearly as far along the path to redemption when died. Gine is more of an arguable case, but she worked in that same business before being removed from the battlefield which doesn't bode well for her prospects either.AnimeNation101 wrote:When was it established that all dead people get reincarnated?BlueBasilisk wrote:Goku barely knew them and has no memory of them or any connection to them at all.
The cycle of reincarnation. Their souls are purified, stripped of their memories and reincarnated as someone else.AnimeNation101 wrote: What do you mean “recycled”? As far as i remember, there was never a time limit to how long a person could be dead before they’re unable to be wished back.
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As far as Goku’s concerned, Grandpa Gohan was his only parent. He wouldn’t quite frankly give a shit about Bardock and Gine. As of now, he probably thinks they’re like Raditz. If he does see how they really are, it won’t go beyond, “oh, hey, that’s cool.”
It’d be a real one-sided emotional reunion. Nothing like Grandpa Gohan.
It’d be a real one-sided emotional reunion. Nothing like Grandpa Gohan.
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He could always just time travel to the past to meet them if he wanted. But Goku doesn't care. Like, at all.
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Gohan and Goten meet grandpa Bardock and grandma Gine...kudo6000 wrote:As far as Goku’s concerned, Grandpa Gohan was his only parent. He wouldn’t quite frankly give a shit about Bardock and Gine. As of now, he probably thinks they’re like Raditz. If he does see how they really are, it won’t go beyond, “oh, hey, that’s cool.”
It’d be a real one-sided emotional reunion. Nothing like Grandpa Gohan.
Commence the bad influence grandparenting of Bardock.