Can Android 21 be our next villain?

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Re: Can Android 21 be our next villain?

Post by Jackalope89 » Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:16 pm

Tai Lung wrote:
Toxin45 wrote: Will you stop winning about new villains? What are your ideas of new villains? Zamasu being a new villain was recycled from fan fiction so what new original villain you want?
zamasu was the author's idea lol, which as such has more objectives and motivations than the previous ones ...
in any case zamasu is from the universe 10 if one is going to look for new villains, it would be betterif they come from other universes taking advantage of the others that have been seen
Android 21 could come from U6's Earth.

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Re: Can Android 21 be our next villain?

Post by Tai Lung » Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:31 pm

Jackalope89 wrote:
Tai Lung wrote:
Toxin45 wrote: Will you stop winning about new villains? What are your ideas of new villains? Zamasu being a new villain was recycled from fan fiction so what new original villain you want?
zamasu was the author's idea lol, which as such has more objectives and motivations than the previous ones ...
in any case zamasu is from the universe 10 if one is going to look for new villains, it would be betterif they come from other universes taking advantage of the others that have been seen
Android 21 could come from U6's Earth.
it's a good option

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Re: Can Android 21 be our next villain?

Post by Lukmendes » Sun Oct 28, 2018 12:57 am

Tai Lung wrote:
Toxin45 wrote: Will you stop winning about new villains? What are your ideas of new villains? Zamasu being a new villain was recycled from fan fiction so what new original villain you want?
zamasu was the author's idea lol, which as such has more objectives and motivations than the previous ones ...
Black is basicaly Baby with more personality, just because Toriyama created Black doesn't mean some ideas about him are new stuff to the series, specialy since for example, Boo's main traits, regeneration and absortion, are from Cell.
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Tai Lung wrote:
Toxin45 wrote: Will you stop winning about new villains? What are your ideas of new villains? Zamasu being a new villain was recycled from fan fiction so what new original villain you want?
zamasu was the author's idea lol, which as such has more objectives and motivations than the previous ones ...
in any case zamasu is from the universe 10 if one is going to look for new villains, it would be betterif they come from other universes taking advantage of the others that have been seen
Android 21 could come from U6's Earth.
Honestly? Might as well make a new character, 21's story is tied to Red Ribbon army, meaning U7's Earth, remove that and it's like removing Vegeta's saiyan side, and if they excuse that she was created by U6's Red Ribbon then it's just lame to say "She's the one you know but isn't".

Although it could be interesting to have a villain from U6 Earth, not necessarily Red Ribbon related, but it'd be cool if it was some villain who caused the wars that destroyed that Earth or something like that.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:08 am My man, all Goku had to do was go SSJ3 and shock Vegeta so much the M on his head would have turned into an L and Buu would have never happened.

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Re: Can Android 21 be our next villain?

Post by Tai Lung » Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:50 am

Lukmendes wrote: Black is basicaly Baby with more personality, just because Toriyama created Black doesn't mean some ideas about him are new stuff to the series, specialy since for example, Boo's main traits, regeneration and absortion, are from Cell.
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if you rely on small unimportant similarities then no villain is original, taking the body of goku was only part of his plan because the whole theme of the gods taking an active role in the actions and sins of mortals is something that had not been seen so far and the goal of zamasu to exterminate mortals to consider the error of the gods is not at all like baby just maybe a bit piccolo by the fact that a god is corrupted

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Re: Can Android 21 be our next villain?

Post by Lukmendes » Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:25 am

Tai Lung wrote:
Lukmendes wrote: Black is basicaly Baby with more personality, just because Toriyama created Black doesn't mean some ideas about him are new stuff to the series, specialy since for example, Boo's main traits, regeneration and absortion, are from Cell.
if you rely on small unimportant similarities then no villain is original, taking the body of goku was only part of his plan because the whole theme of the gods taking an active role in the actions and sins of mortals is something that had not been seen so far and the goal of zamasu to exterminate mortals to consider the error of the gods is not at all like baby just maybe a bit piccolo by the fact that a god is corrupted
Powers help to define what a character is, so those kinds of details are hardly small or insignificant.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:08 am My man, all Goku had to do was go SSJ3 and shock Vegeta so much the M on his head would have turned into an L and Buu would have never happened.

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Re: Can Android 21 be our next villain?

Post by Tai Lung » Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:42 pm

Lukmendes wrote:
Tai Lung wrote:
Lukmendes wrote: Black is basicaly Baby with more personality, just because Toriyama created Black doesn't mean some ideas about him are new stuff to the series, specialy since for example, Boo's main traits, regeneration and absortion, are from Cell.
if you rely on small unimportant similarities then no villain is original, taking the body of goku was only part of his plan because the whole theme of the gods taking an active role in the actions and sins of mortals is something that had not been seen so far and the goal of zamasu to exterminate mortals to consider the error of the gods is not at all like baby just maybe a bit piccolo by the fact that a god is corrupted
Powers help to define what a character is, so those kinds of details are hardly small or insignificant.
if you want to see it like that ...
I do not see at all cell, omega or buu the same
besides that zamasu does not have the power to change body is that was because of the wish of zarama

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Re: Can Android 21 be our next villain?

Post by Mister_Popo » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:20 pm

If Android 17 can become this strong as he i now ... maybe she'd become very strong too, if they rework her profile a little bit.
But not like a main villain of a 20+-episode-arc. Short arc or filler stuff.

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Re: Can Android 21 be our next villain?

Post by Waluigiman » Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:00 pm

I'm fine with it. Just refix the story and remove those waves and soul things for obvious reasons and everything would be fine.

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