Broly's next form(s) / Development!
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I was never a big fan of Brolys berserk form, but I was always a huge fan of his intermediate SSJ Form.
Fingers crossed that they decided to make that intermediate form his controlled SSJ transformation.
To me, this form has always looked better.
Fingers crossed that they decided to make that intermediate form his controlled SSJ transformation.
To me, this form has always looked better.
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I think that looks bad and over the top. Maybe it’s due to Xenoverse’s horrible plastic-like and shiny graphics, though, because I could see someone like Shintani making it look good.Hulk10 wrote:Yeah that one does look cool and it looks powerful.Saturnine wrote:Yep. I'd take this over what we got in GT anydayHulk10 wrote:
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So you like concept but not the graphics?emperior wrote:I think that looks bad and over the top. Maybe it’s due to Xenoverse’s horrible plastic-like and shiny graphics, though, because I could see someone like Shintani making it look good.Hulk10 wrote:Yeah that one does look cool and it looks powerful.Saturnine wrote:
Yep. I'd take this over what we got in GT anyday
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I don’t really know. I could see it working, but I am not a big fan of the Super Saiyan 4-like transformations.Hulk10 wrote:So you like concept but not the graphics?emperior wrote:I think that looks bad and over the top. Maybe it’s due to Xenoverse’s horrible plastic-like and shiny graphics, though, because I could see someone like Shintani making it look good.Hulk10 wrote:
Yeah that one does look cool and it looks powerful.
I used to be, but I have come to prefer the simpler looking forms like Broly’s Ikari, which in my opinion is SS4 done better, as it takes the best aspects of it (big black hair, Oozaru’s power, golden eyes with pupils) and removes the worst aspect (red fur).
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I can appreciate your point of view.emperior wrote:I don’t really know. I could see it working, but I am not a big fan of the Super Saiyan 4-like transformations.Hulk10 wrote:So you like concept but not the graphics?emperior wrote: I think that looks bad and over the top. Maybe it’s due to Xenoverse’s horrible plastic-like and shiny graphics, though, because I could see someone like Shintani making it look good.
I used to be, but I have come to prefer the simpler looking forms like Broly’s Ikari, which in my opinion is SS4 done better, as it takes the best aspects of it (big black hair, Oozaru’s power, golden eyes with pupils) and removes the worst aspect (red fur).
"We became like friends, we became like good friends." Broly to Cheelai and Lemo about his fur pelt.
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God Ki? In his first ever real battle, Broly surpassed two SSJ Blue Saiyans in Goku and Vegeta, post-TOP. It took a massively powered up fusion to finally over power him.
Should Broly ever gain control over his Ikari and "Full Power" form, Whis may just have Beerus' successor.
But Broly should not slim down. The fandom already freaked out when Kale did that, I'd hate to see the reaction if Broly did it too. But should he gain the Golden SSJ4 thing? I could 100% back that. That could be his "God of Destruction" form.
Should Broly ever gain control over his Ikari and "Full Power" form, Whis may just have Beerus' successor.
But Broly should not slim down. The fandom already freaked out when Kale did that, I'd hate to see the reaction if Broly did it too. But should he gain the Golden SSJ4 thing? I could 100% back that. That could be his "God of Destruction" form.
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Hmm not a bad idea. I personally like to think of the Golden Super Saiyan 4 as the ultimate Saiyan form. As Ultra Instinct isn't really a Saiyan form. Plus Golden SSJ4 is the perfect evolution for SSJ4.Jackalope89 wrote:God Ki? In his first ever real battle, Broly surpassed two SSJ Blue Saiyans in Goku and Vegeta, post-TOP. It took a massively powered up fusion to finally over power him.
Should Broly ever gain control over his Ikari and "Full Power" form, Whis may just have Beerus' successor.
But Broly should not slim down. The fandom already freaked out when Kale did that, I'd hate to see the reaction if Broly did it too. But should he gain the Golden SSJ4 thing? I could 100% back that. That could be his "God of Destruction" form.
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I can tell that Toriyama based his own version of Broly on "Goku SSJ4". Look at the illustration he drew back in 2005 for SSJ4 Goku:
you can obviously see that he looks very close to Base Broly. The portrayal of Broly as a primitive, Tarzan-esque (a.k.a the Ape Man) Saiyan having Bah's "fur" as a main component of his design supports the idea that Toriyama had the intention of dissolving both Old Broly & SSJ4 Goku into this new version of Broly. Given the fact that the concept of "humanoid Oozaru" is what makes Broly a "mutant" Saiyan in Toriyama's continuity, any future transformations of Broly will be Oozaru-related.
you can obviously see that he looks very close to Base Broly. The portrayal of Broly as a primitive, Tarzan-esque (a.k.a the Ape Man) Saiyan having Bah's "fur" as a main component of his design supports the idea that Toriyama had the intention of dissolving both Old Broly & SSJ4 Goku into this new version of Broly. Given the fact that the concept of "humanoid Oozaru" is what makes Broly a "mutant" Saiyan in Toriyama's continuity, any future transformations of Broly will be Oozaru-related.
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I would like to see Broly develop a technique like Goku's against Piccolo Daimao. The one where he projected the image of an Oozaru. I'm pretty sure that it was for dramatic effect in the original Dragon Ball though.
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Good point. That's my line of thinking too. The hair actually looks similar to Broly's, from the side anyway, though Brolys is shorter.Broli Broly wrote:I can tell that Toriyama based his own version of Broly on "Goku SSJ4". Look at the illustration he drew back in 2005 for SSJ4 Goku:
you can obviously see that he looks very close to Base Broly. The portrayal of Broly as a primitive, Tarzan-esque (a.k.a the Ape Man) Saiyan having Bah's "fur" as a main component of his design supports the idea that Toriyama had the intention of dissolving both Old Broly & SSJ4 Goku into this new version of Broly. Given the fact that the concept of "humanoid Oozaru" is what makes Broly a "mutant" Saiyan in Toriyama's continuity, any future transformations of Broly will be Oozaru-related.
Broly's eyes have the same yellow/gold glow of SSJ4 with his humanoid Oozaru powerup:
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Ahh! I remember when I thought this was Super Saiyan God. Good times! I hope we see it in the series.Hulk10 wrote:You mean like this one?Saturnine wrote:The fact that the body fur isn't brown or golden, but an illogixal, random red - for one thing. Well, brown would look too weak and kinda correspond to Broly's Ikari form more, which is below his regular SSj. But golden would have not only looked great, but also fit in much better in the SSj line. The SSj4 we got just feels too disjointed. And it really looks like it desperately wants to evolve into something more final-looking, for instance with the golden fur I mentioned above.Hulk10 wrote: What's wrong with the old SSJ4 design?
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I'm down for this, I like his Broly God hair, so I kinda hope they carry that into his 3 form, but I also think he could use SS4 later. Or at least, something like it.Hulk10 wrote:I like the idea of Broly having his original transformations, you know the LSSJ2, LSSJ3 stuff like that.
I've said it before but with Goku going down the UI route and Vegeta going more down what I can only describe as enhancing his godhood, I think a more primal form related to the great apes would fit Broly to keep him unique. Specifically as his forms escalate, he gets the fur, the the fangs etc until he's not far off a super saiyan 4. They already laid the groundwork with Paragus' line about 'great ape power in a normal body' so it's only a few skips of a stone away.
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Yeah true enough.mahakaishin1991 wrote:I'm down for this, I like his Broly God hair, so I kinda hope they carry that into his 3 form, but I also think he could use SS4 later. Or at least, something like it.Hulk10 wrote:I like the idea of Broly having his original transformations, you know the LSSJ2, LSSJ3 stuff like that.
I've said it before but with Goku going down the UI route and Vegeta going more down what I can only describe as enhancing his godhood, I think a more primal form related to the great apes would fit Broly to keep him unique. Specifically as his forms escalate, he gets the fur, the the fangs etc until he's not far off a super saiyan 4. They already laid the groundwork with Paragus' line about 'great ape power in a normal body' so it's only a few skips of a stone away.
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Thinking about it, it would be cool if Broly achieved Super Saiyan 3. Kale and Caulifla are training to obtain it, so it seems like it’s possible to mix the green haired form with 3. It would look cool on Broly, as he would get golden eyes with long green hair which would probably fit with his green pelt.
Maybe Broly may also go further, and obtain Super Saiyan 4 if they really want to make it canonical.
Maybe Broly may also go further, and obtain Super Saiyan 4 if they really want to make it canonical.
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the whole point of ssj4 was a saiyan returning to his roots therefore the black hair. the fur could be brown but whatever.Saturnine wrote:Yep. I'd take this over what we got in GT anydayHulk10 wrote:You mean like this one?Saturnine wrote:
The fact that the body fur isn't brown or golden, but an illogixal, random red - for one thing. Well, brown would look too weak and kinda correspond to Broly's Ikari form more, which is below his regular SSj. But golden would have not only looked great, but also fit in much better in the SSj line. The SSj4 we got just feels too disjointed. And it really looks like it desperately wants to evolve into something more final-looking, for instance with the golden fur I mentioned above.
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Broly is already strongest without needing God transformations. He just need to stay in control in his green haired ssj full powered transformation. HIs transformation is unique, let it stay that way.
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I know that but some people don't like the black hair.ironfist2020 wrote:the whole point of ssj4 was a saiyan returning to his roots therefore the black hair. the fur could be brown but whatever.Saturnine wrote:Yep. I'd take this over what we got in GT anydayHulk10 wrote:
You mean like this one?
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Then it would look just like a condensed Ozaru, not like a legendary transformation stronger than three fucking steps of the legendary transformation below it.ironfist2020 wrote: the whole point of ssj4 was a saiyan returning to his roots therefore the black hair. the fur could be brown but whatever.
Also, how does golden fur preclude returning to one's roots? The golden ozaru literally has it, you know
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I think Broly is fine with the forms he has for now. Since we literally just got him. I am interested if we'll see him control these form, so, y'know, he doesn't try to murder everything in sight. Perhaps he could be taught by Goku and Vegeta, since those to have long since mastered those forms. The whole "mutant" thing with him is interesting, though. Makes me wonder if the reason why he's so unstable compared to Goku and Vegeta's own first awakenings is because his own feral nature from being a mutant Saiyan is influencing those forms. I'm mostly rambling at this point, but just a thought.
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Either an SSJ4 looking form or his LSSJ/berserk form but controlled and with pupils.
I called it that Gogeta, Bardock, and something Broly related would be in the movie before it was even announced that it was a Broly movie.
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