It depends how strong you think the base saiyans were in the Buu saga. Personally I have base saiyans>Freeza, and Kibito was close to Base Gohan, so I would say yes he was stronger than Freeza.Noah wrote:Is Kibito way stronger than 100% FP Freeza (Namek)?
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By official accounts, no, he is not.Noah wrote:Is Kibito way stronger than 100% FP Freeza (Namek)?
- Even ~5 years after the Majin Boo arc, Goku without Super Saiyan still isn't as strong as Freeza (as said in Battle of Gods, Super).
- Back during the Boo arc, Gohan was noticeably weaker than both Goku and Vegeta, meaning his base form would be significantly weaker than 100% Freeza.
- Gohan notes that Kibito most likely isn't someone he can beat without using his true power, which would mean his full base-form power since he's still operating under the "no Super Saiyan" rule.
- Daizenhuu #7's character bio for Kibito removes any ambiguity around that last point, clarifying that Kibito's battle power is high enough to "give Gohan a difficult fight as long as he wasn't a Super Saiyan."
I've seen people find the Gohan-Kibito comparison a little fishy based on their attempts to lift the Z-Sword, but I just chalk that up to a big difference in physical strength. It's only Kibito's battle power, meaning his raw amount of ki, that's said to be similar to Gohan's. But Saiyans and even half-Saiyans are much more about brute strength, while Core-People like Kibito tend to stay on the more "mystical powers" side of things. So while their battle powers are similar, if Kibito's the weaker one even by a little, that could amount to a big difference between them in the physical strength department.
Gohan -- Ki: 100 / Strength: 120
Kibito -- Ki: 90 / Strength: 70
Something like that.
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For me it's very simple: since we're coming up with power levels, think of a potara fusion formula for Kibito and Kaioshin, so that their power stays below Gotenks Boo. Could this be true?
Kibitoshin - 400 (the same as SSJ3 Goku)
Kaioshin - 32 (the same as SSJ Gohan)
Kibito - 8 (a quarter of SSJ Gohan)
Gohan - 0.64 (in tournament)
Kibitoshin - 400 (the same as SSJ3 Goku)
Kaioshin - 32 (the same as SSJ Gohan)
Kibito - 8 (a quarter of SSJ Gohan)
Gohan - 0.64 (in tournament)
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I strongly question the idea that Kibito-Kaioshin is anywhere near SS3 Goku's level. If he was, it's pretty shitty that he didn't even offer to help out in the final battle with Pure Boo. I typically see him as being maybe a tiny bit stronger than SS2 Vegeta and Goku. And as discussed above, Kibito is officially about as strong as base Gohan.Desassina wrote:For me it's very simple: since we're coming up with power levels, think of a potara fusion formula for Kibito and Kaioshin, so that their power stays below Gotenks Boo. Could this be true?
Kibitoshin - 400 (the same as SSJ3 Goku)
Kaioshin - 32 (the same as SSJ Gohan)
Kibito - 8 (a quarter of SSJ Gohan)
Gohan - 0.64 (in tournament)
The formula that I used to use looked something like this: (A+B)(B/A)100, where Fighter A is greater than or equal to Fighter B. This would account for how the Potara probably work better for people who are similar in strength. Since Goku and Vegeta are almost dead even in strength, Vegetto ends up a hundred times stronger than the two combined. Kaioshin and Kibito, who are of vastly different strengths, only gets about twice as strong as normal.
I ultimately stopped using it or any formula, since I think that a fusion of any kind is heavily based on how compatible the two characters are, in ways other than power. Things like size, shape, species, sex, age, attitude, and a bunch of other variables that would make fusion way too hard to factor into a math equation.
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How strong is Vegeta (Boo Saga) and how strong is Majin Boost?
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Vegeta is confident on taking a Gohan he knows is weaker, but don't now by how much. Most of the people places him about as strong as Kid Gohan, or a bit weaker since Kid Gohan still being threated as a big deal by him.Chickenchaser wrote:How strong is Vegeta (Boo Saga) and how strong is Majin Boost?
When Babidi unlocks his potential, his power skyrocketed to be on pair with Goku.
Vegeta: 135
Kid Gohan: 150
Goku/Majin Vegeta: 180
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Vegeta is confident on taking a Gohan he knows is weaker, but don't now by how much. Most of the people places him about as strong as Kid Gohan, or a bit weaker since Kid Gohan still being threated as a big deal by him.Chickenchaser wrote:How strong is Vegeta (Boo Saga) and how strong is Majin Boost?
When Babidi unlocks his potential, his power skyrocketed to be on pair with Goku.
Vegeta: 135
Kid Gohan: 150
Goku/Majin Vegeta: 180
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Vegeta was probably at least as strong as kid Gohan was, given his confidence about taking on high school age Gohan before he found out how much he let himself go. After getting his dormant power unleashed by Bobbidi, Vegeta was left pretty much dead even with Goku, who was probably not massively stronger than Gohan was, since he considered Gohan a potential partner for fusion. So Vegeta's power-up was probably somewhat minimal, which would make sense given how he's been training non-stop for the last seven years and is probably kinda tapped out in terms of dormant power at the moment. In numbers, here's how the all look:Chickenchaser wrote:How strong is Vegeta (Boo Saga) and how strong is Majin Boost?
Son Gohan (Cell Games): 72
-- high school age: 64
Vegeta: 75
-- Majinized: 90
Son Goku: 90
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I've always based power levels on what the card game did and Frieza saying his max was 1 million. Given those details we can assume,
Frieza saga
Goku base/max after healing - 300,000
Frieza final form base - 250,000
Frieza summoming half of power - 500,000
Goku ssj - 1,500,000
Full power/bulk Frieza - 1,100,000
Afterward lets say before the cell games, Future Trunks had the highest raw power level at right about 5,000,000 while Goku 4,000,000 but had the potential to be where trunks was but insisted on maintaining a level head when dealing with this new energy.
Ssj 2 Teen Gohan - 6,200,000
Gohan was the highest of that era, right outside of Broly.
Broly Lssj - 7,000,000
In the Buu saga, Goku and Vegeta both surpassed Teen Gohan but not by much.
Fat Buu - 7,500,000
Majin vegeta - 6,500,000
Ssj 2 Goku - 6,500,000
Ssj3 Goku - 7,800,000
The multipliers are way lesser the higher you go, there is a max that the body can handle, hence why Broly had to release energy from his own body to maintain his level. Through training you can stretch your max.
The fusions you would just double the power and such. Or add them together, which makes the most since, the closer you are to each others power level the greater the improvement.
Vegito base - 8,000,000
Ssj Vegito - 16,000,000
Buu Gohan absorbed - 12,500,000
Buu absorbing someone is different then a fusion, he just steals there power and gets some energy.
Not going into GT since I believe it to be dead in the water.
Dragon ball super, the god powers are weird. Its not ki but a pressure that is felt.
Who knows how really strong they are?
You kind of transcend into it and it makes you immensely more powerful, this is where I believe those insane multipliers come in...
Frieza saga
Goku base/max after healing - 300,000
Frieza final form base - 250,000
Frieza summoming half of power - 500,000
Goku ssj - 1,500,000
Full power/bulk Frieza - 1,100,000
Afterward lets say before the cell games, Future Trunks had the highest raw power level at right about 5,000,000 while Goku 4,000,000 but had the potential to be where trunks was but insisted on maintaining a level head when dealing with this new energy.
Ssj 2 Teen Gohan - 6,200,000
Gohan was the highest of that era, right outside of Broly.
Broly Lssj - 7,000,000
In the Buu saga, Goku and Vegeta both surpassed Teen Gohan but not by much.
Fat Buu - 7,500,000
Majin vegeta - 6,500,000
Ssj 2 Goku - 6,500,000
Ssj3 Goku - 7,800,000
The multipliers are way lesser the higher you go, there is a max that the body can handle, hence why Broly had to release energy from his own body to maintain his level. Through training you can stretch your max.
The fusions you would just double the power and such. Or add them together, which makes the most since, the closer you are to each others power level the greater the improvement.
Vegito base - 8,000,000
Ssj Vegito - 16,000,000
Buu Gohan absorbed - 12,500,000
Buu absorbing someone is different then a fusion, he just steals there power and gets some energy.
Not going into GT since I believe it to be dead in the water.
Dragon ball super, the god powers are weird. Its not ki but a pressure that is felt.
Who knows how really strong they are?
You kind of transcend into it and it makes you immensely more powerful, this is where I believe those insane multipliers come in...
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Dragonball Z Sagas
Saiyan Arc
[spoiler]Goku's Older Brother!?
Raditz: 1,500
-Initial: 1,200
Farmer: 5
Son Goku: 334
-W/o Weights: 416
-Kamehameha: 924
Piccolo: 322
-W/o Weights: 408
--Makankosappo: 1,330 - 1,480
Son Gohan: 1
-Upset: 710
--Enraged: 1,307
Kame-sennin: 139
Kuririn: 206
Umigame: 0.001
Yamcha: 177
Tenshinhan: 250
Chaozu: 122
Yajirobe: 185
Enma Daio: 2,000
Kaio: 3,500
The Saiyans Finally Arrive
Piccolo: 1,220
-Full Power: 3,500
Son Gohan: 981
-Enraged: 2,800
-Zenkai: 1,250
--Oozaru (Injured): 4,500
Yamcha: 1,480
Tenshinhan: 1,830
Chaozu: 610
Yajirobe: 970
Saibaimen: 1,200
Nappa: 4,000
-Full Power: 4,800
Number 4,000 is taken from Daizenshuu 7 and I'm put Nappa Full Power Lower than 5,000 but slighty higer than 4,000, because he is Power Up.
Son Goku: 8,000
-Suppressed: 5,000
--Kaio-ken: 16,000
-Kaio-ken x3: 24,000
-Kaio-ken x4: 32,000
Vegeta: 18,000
-Fatigued: 12,000
--Oozaru (Post Powerball): 80,000
-Injured: 2,000
Genki Dama: 130,000
-Weakened: 6,500[/spoiler]
Freeza Arc
[spoiler]Let's Go Namek!!
Kuririn: 1,800
-Potential Unlocked: 7,000
Son Gohan: 1,500
-Potential Unlocked: 8,000
Vegeta: 24,000
-Zenkai: 30,000
Chapter: 249 (DBZ 55), P3.2-6, P4.1-2
Context: Freeza, Zarbon and Dodoria discuss Vegeta's battle power as he powers up against Kui. Zarbon's scouter had exploded.
Zarbon: "I... I think it's a malfunction, but... My scouter was set on Vegeta, and as the figures surpassed twe... 22,000..."
Dodoria: "It's definitely a malfunction! Your scouter's an old model, after all. I'll check out the correct figure off mine..."
Zarbon: "What's the figure...?"
Dodoria: "Th... that's impossible... Is my new model malfunctioning too...?! It's risen to up to twe... 24,000... !!"
Zarbon: "24,000...?! Are you saying it's higher than o... our own battle powers...?!"
Dodoria: "Th... this can't be...!! H... his battle power was barely 18,000..."
Freeza: "That shouldn't be a surprise. It's all because Vegeta's been ceaselessly fighting on the front lines. Perhaps he's caught on to something new on Earth. It's merely 24,000. That's a figure that you two would be more than able to win against if you fought together, is it not? Fufufu..."
Chapter: 275 (DBZ 81), P4.2
Context: Vegeta powers up to fight Reacoom.
Jheese: "Hey, hey, Vegeta's battle power has risen up close to 30,000!"
Kui: 18,000
Namekian Warriors: 3,000
-Suppressed: 1,000
Dodoria: 22,000
Zarbon: 23,000
-Transformed: 28,000
The Ginyu Force!
Son Gohan: 14,000
-Zenkai: 26,000
Kuririn: 13,000
-Potential Increasing: 23,000+
Vegeta: 30,000
-Zenkai: 120,000
I'm giving Vegeta (After Reacoom fight) Battle power of 120,000 because i think 250,000 is too high.
Chapter: 289 (DBZ 95), P6.1-2
Context: after Jheese freaks out over Vegeta's new battle power
Vegeta: “That’s right…I’ve surpassed Saiyan limits, and my strength is still increasing more and more…The truth is that I’ve realized it too…That this extension of my power isn’t merely what you’d call giftedness…In other words…I’m steadily drawing near…to becoming a Super Saiyan!”
Gurd: 5,000
Chapter: 273 (DBZ 79), P2.6
Kuririn: “Th…that one…He’s the only one who’s nothing special…Wh-what’s he doing mixed in with those guys…?!”
Reacoom: 40,000
Jheese: 40,000
Butta: 40,000
These 3 are noted to be more or less on par with one another. Ginyu also notes that a person with a battle power of 60,000 should easily be able to dispatch of these 3.
Chapter: 281 (DBZ 87), P11.1
Context: Gohan doesn't think Jheese and Burta are that strong
Kuririn: "Th...that shouldn't be... Th...those guys have about the same amount of ki as th...that Reacoom guy, and not even Vegeta could do anything against him...But Goku's too strong, so those guys don't look like anything special..."
Gohan: "I... I suppose... But father's ki is a lot smaller than theirs..."
Chapter: 283 (DBZ 89), P11.1-3
Ginyu: "In my estimation, his ability looks like it's about 60,000."
Jheese: "Six... 60,000!? H-he's a Saiyan!! Whoever heard of a Saiyan at 60,000...?!!"
Ginyu: “It’s not impossible. He could be like us, a super-gifted warrior, born with a mutation…Looks like this will be an unprecedentedly entertaining battle…I never thought the time would come for me to show my true power.”
Son Goku: 90,000
-Suppressed: 5,000
-Ginyu Estimate: 60,000
--Kaio-ken: 180,000
Chapter: 285 (DBZ 91), P1.2-3, P2.2
Context: as Goku continues to use the Kaio-ken
Ginyu: "Twe... 120,000... 130,000... 140,000... It's sti... sti... still rising... !!!! It... it can't be... 160,000... "Eigh... 180,000...?! Un...unbelievable...Th-this is your true power...?!!"
Captain Ginyu: 120,000
-Goku's Body: 23,000+
Chapter: 285 (DBZ 91), P3.1
Jheese: "Even Ca... Captain Ginyu's highest figure is 120,000..."
Chapter: 288 (DBZ 94), P13.2-4
Context: Ginyu powers up in Goku’s body
Ginyu: "Guhahahahaha...!!!! Jheese!! How much is my battle power?!"
Jheese: ".....Twe... 23,000...."
Ginyu: “Twe…23,000…only 23,000…!?”
Nail: 42,000
Chapter: 286 (DBZ 92), P5.1-2
Context: Nail powers up for Freeza
Freeza: "Hoh! This is incredible! Your battle power has risen to 42,000. I see, you truly do seem to be completely different than all the Namekians up to now. I'm surprised...This is a magnificent battle power! I can see why you're called a Warrior-type. It's enough to make me want you for an underling."
Freeza (50%): 265,000
Chapter: 286 (DBZ 92), P5.4
Freeza: "My battle power is 530,000. But of course, I don't intend to fight you at full power, so you can relax..."
The Legendary Super Saiyan
Vegeta: 480,000
-Zenkai: 2,400,000
Kuririn: 75,000
Son Gohan: 200,000
-Enraged: 800,000
--Zenkai: 400,000
-Enraged: 1,600,000
Chapter: 299 (DBZ 105), P13.1
Context: after Gohan is healed by Dende
Vegeta: “Heh…Just as you’d expect of someone with Saiyan blood, after reviving his battle power has greatly risen…A-alright! Luck is turning our way just a little bit…
Freeza: 530,000
-First Transformation: 1,060,000
--Full Power: 1,200,000
-Second Transformation: 1,800,000
--Final Form: 3,000,000
-50%: 60,000,000
-100%: 120,000,000
Freeza’s second form is stated to have a battle power that exceeds 1 million. After powering up, he is able to gain the upper hand on Piccolo. After Piccolo removes his weighted clothing, Freeza ascends to his third form, which surpasses Piccolo’s full power. After an angry Gohan pressures Freez’s third form, Freeza ascends to his final form, and easily defeats a renewed Vegeta, but has a hard time against a renewed Goku. After warming up for a bit, Freeza decides to showcase 50% of his power, and this 60 million figure is taken from the Daizenshuu 7. After Goku turns into a Super Saiyan, Freeza decides to go all out. His 120 million figure is also taken from the Daizenshuu 7.
Piccolo(W/ weights): 56,250
-Merged With Nail: 1,125,000
-W/o Weights: 1,350,000
Piccolo has gotten a lot stronger after training on Kaio’s planet. Nail even seems to imply that Piccolo is stronger than he is. After merging with Nail, he is able to go toe to toe with Freeza in his second form.
Chapter: 295 (DBZ 101), P1.4, P2.1-5, P3.1
Nail: “I-I’m astonished…I don’t know what kind of training you’ve done, but you’ve acquired unbelievable power…Still, it’s unfortunate…If you had only returned to the original, single Namekian you were, you might have been able to defeat even Freeza…”
Piccolo: “Are you saying that if I merged with God once again, my power would even surpass Freeza!?”
Nail: “Th-that’s right…I was overwhelmingly defeated by Freeza, but I should have a good comprehension of his abilities…[ ] So merge with me…! I’m also the only fighting-type Namekian on this planet…[ ] That’s right…Your power will become many times greater…”
Piccolo: “…You’re not lying, are you?”
Nail: “If you think so, you can just go get killed by Freeza…”
Son Goku: 3,000,000
-Kaio-ken x10: 30,000,000
--Kaio-ken x20: 60,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 150,000,000
Large Genki Dama: 75,000,000
Freeza was unable hold the Large Genki Dama back, so one can assume its power is greater than that of Freeza’s when at half strength.[/spoiler]
Cell Arc
[spoiler]The Mysterious Youth
Mecha Freeza: 160,000,000
-Suppressed: 4,000,000
Freeza is now stronger than he was on Namek thanks to his cybernetic enhancements. Due to his confidence, I assume he’s stronger than Super Saiyan Goku was on Namek.
Chapter: 330 (DBZ 136), P13.3-4
Cold: "The Earthlings don't matter, but the Super Saiyan alone we absolutely must exterminate, by any means. The one who holds the greatest power in the universe must without a doubt be our clan"
Freeza: "We can definitely defeat him if we go at him together, Papa. And I've powered up too, so I think I can probably go alone."
When Yamcha senses Freeza’s power, Gohan states that he can get much stronger. Freeza never seems to power up prior to his death, so I assume he was suppressed while taking on Trunks.
Chapter: 330 (DBZ 136), P9.7
Yamcha: “So this guy called ‘Fr…Freeza’ has such terrible…ab…absurdly large ki…?”
Gohan: “This isn’t it…he gets much, much stronger…!”
King Cold: 100,000,000
Vegeta: 3,200,000
Piccolo(W/ weights): 2,250,000
Son Gohan: 400,000
Kuririn: 100,000
Tenshinhan: 72,000
Yamcha: 48,000
Future Trunks: 3,600,000
-Super Saiyan: 180,000,000
--Super Saiyan (Holding Back Against Goku): 90,000,000
Since Trunks took out a stronger Freeza, one can assume Trunks is stronger than Goku was on Namek. Granted, Freeza seemed to be suppressed even up to his death, but Trunks was confident he could take out Freeza at full power.
Chapter: 331 (DBZ 137), P9.1
Context: challenging Freeza and Cold
Trunks: “Come at me at full power right from the start. I’m not soft like Son Goku…”
Son Goku: 4,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 200,000,000
After battle with freeza goku's got a zenkai (1.33x).
Chapter: 334 (DBZ 140), P13.3-5
Context: after Trunks and Goku fight
Trunks: “As expected, the rumors were true. No, you’re even greater…This was the sword that cut even Freeza…”
Goku: “You weren’t serious, after all.”
The Artificial Humans Are Released
Son Goku: 6,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 300,000,000
--Super Saiyan (Heart Virus): 100,000,000-
Piccolo: 225,000,000
-W/ weights: 187,500,000
--Merged With Kami: 375,000,000
-W/o weights: 450,000,000
Piccolo seems to have gotten a substantial boost by training with Super Saiyan Goku. When Piccolo was fighting Dr. Gero, Kuririn notes that Piccolo’s power has become comparable to a Super Saiyan.
Chapter: 346 (DBZ 152), P12.4
Kuririn: “He’s st-strong…! What kind of training did Piccolo do…And he’s not even a Su-Super Saiyan…”
After merging with God, Piccolo becomes twice as strong, since he’s reunited with his other half.
Son Gohan: 3,000,000
Kuririn: 1,000,000
Tenshinhan: 360,000
Yamcha: 240,000
Vegeta: 6,400,000
-Super Saiyan: 320,000,000
Chapter: 345 (DBZ 151), P6.1-2
Context: after Vegeta scares No.20 away with a bluff
Piccolo: "He really had lost a lot of stamina...when he confirmed that the Artificial Humans sucked out energy with the palms of their hands...He ought to have lost if he had fought that No.20 guy...But he talked as if he still had something up his sleeve...Vegeta really is a fighting genius...He might have sur-surpassed...Goku..."
Trunks: 4,800,000
-Super Saiyan: 240,000,000
Android No. 19: 75,000,000
-Energy Absorbed: 225,000,000
Chapter: 341 (DBZ 147), P14.6
Context: after No.19 absorbs Goku’s attack
No.20: “Alright! No.19’s maximum power rating has greatly increased from what it was before! In contrast, Son Goku’s energy has fallen remarkably…!”
Android No.20: 100,000,000
-Energy Absorbed: 150,000,000
Chapter: 340 (DBZ 146), P14.1
Context: after Goku transforms into a Super Saiyan
No.20: “However, this isn’t anything great enough to give us reason to fear. It’s still within a level which even No.19 is more than capable of defeating, and naturally that goes for myself as well…”
Android No.18: 400,000,000
Chapter: 353 (DBZ 159), P10.2-4, P11.1
Context: after Vegeta continues to fight No.18
Vegeta: “This is really starting to annoy me. You act as if nothing’s happened…”
No.18: “I’m surprised. To think that a flesh-and-blood human could be so good, even if you are an alien. Is this man called ‘Son Goku’ even stronger?”
Vegeta: “Don’t kid yourself. He may have temporarily slipped by me, but now things have returned to normal and I should be on top again.”
No.18: “What? So you’re nothing special. Either of you.”
Chapter: 367 (DBZ 173), title page
Text box: “Her power is more suppressed than No.17's, but in the end she too is a failure who doesn't listen to orders.”
Android No.17: 450,000,000
Based on Piccolo’s battle with No. 17, it would appear that No. 17 is equal to Piccolo after he’s merged with God.
Cell: 360,000,000
Cell is strong enough to give a weighted Piccolo some trouble. Because of that, we can at least be sure he’s weaker than No. 17 at this point in the story.
Cell is Complete!
Piccolo: 450,000,000
Android No.17: 450,000,000
Android No.18: 400,000,000
Cell: 550,000,000
-Second Form: 800,000,000
--Full Power: 1,000,000,000
-Perfect Form (Suppressed): 1,600,000,000
Cell has grown stronger by absorbing countless Earthlings. His power is equal to that of No. 16’s.
Chapter: 371 (DBZ 177), P6.4
Context: before No.16 goes to fight first form Cell
No.16: “According to my calculations, my power is about equal to Cell’s.”
After absorbing No. 17, Cell add’s his power to his own. Cell is suppressed when Vegeta shows up. Even after powering up, he’s still no match for Vegeta, however.
Chapter: 378 (DBZ 184), P7.3, P8.1
Context: after Vegeta beats up Cell more
Cell: “Seems you want me to get serious…”
Vegeta: “I thought you already were serious…”
Chapter: 378 (DBZ 184), P11.2, P11.4
Context: After Cell unleashes his full power
Vegeta: “Oh, your battle power really flew up there…But so what?”
Trunks: “…This is father’s victory.”
After absorbing No. 18, Cell’s power goes through a drastic change, being greater than the sum of his parts. Having both Artificial Humans absorbed likely triggered a reaction within Cell’s body, granting him a substantial power boost. He is suppressed when facing both Vegeta and Trunks, as it is revealed later that he can power up even further during the Cell Games.
Android No.16: 550,000,000
Tenshinhan: 360,000
-Shin Kikoho!: 720,000,000
Since Tenshinhan was able to keep Cell down, I’m pretty much forced to assume the Shin Kikoho’s power level is massive.
Vegeta: 18,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 900,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2nd Grade: 1,350,000,000
Trunks seems to imply that Super Saiyan Vegeta is already stronger than a suppressed Second Form Cell. I would assume he’s still inferior to Cell’s full power in his second form. After ascending to the second grade, his power eclipses Cell’s.
Chapter: 377 (DBZ 183), P3.1-2
Context: as Vegeta is about to fight second form Cell
Trunks: “Father intends to ‘become’ that right off the bat…! [Become] that…!”
Future Trunks: 17,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 850,000,000
--Super Saiyan 2nd Grade: 1,275,000,000
-Super Saiyan 3rd Grade: 1,700,000,000
Chapter: 379 (DBZ 185), P11.4
Context: Vegeta talks to second form Cell
Vegeta: “Heh. I’ll tell you something that will really shock you! There’s a guy named Trunks over there. He’s not as powerful as me, but we’re pretty close…!”
Cell also notes that Trunks’s power in his grade 3 form is superior to that of his in his suppressed state.
Chapter: 387 (DBZ 193), P1.3, P2.1-3
Context: as Trunks uses his Super Saiyan Grade III power
Trunks: “What you’re about to see now…is my true power!!!”
Cell: “I see…It truly is magnificent power…You easily surpass me…But you can’t win against me like that…Absolutely not…”
Super Saiyan Goku(Suppressed): 600,000,000
-Half Strength: 1,500,000,000
Super Saiyan Gohan(Suppressed): 700,000,000
Goku and Gohan in their suppressed states are clearly weaker than Vegeta and Trunks, since neither have realized they have been surpassed. Half of Goku’s strength was enough to surpass that of Vegeta’s grade 2 form, seeing as how Vegeta admitted is inferiority without even knowing that was only half of Goku’s power.
Chapter: 391 (DBZ 197), P10.4-5
Context: After powering up and almost destroying Karin’s tower…
Goku: “That just now was about half power. What do you think?”
Karin: “Half power…?! What a fearsome guy you are…How strong will you become before you’re satisfied…?!”
Chapter: 391 (DBZ 197), P13.1-2
Context: After sensing half of Full Power Super Saiyan Goku’s max power from a distance.
Vegeta (to self): “Damn you, Kakarot… It’s always like this… He’s always a step ahead of me…! It drives me crazy…Just when I think I’ve caught up, he widens the lead again…”
Cell Games
Vegeta: 36,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 1,800,000,000
We can be sure that Vegeta has surpassed the strength Goku displayed for Karin, since Vegeta was initially confident he was going to win the Cell Games.
Chapter: 395 (DBZ 201), P13.5
Context: after Goku says he’ll fight first Cell first
Vegeta: “Do what you want. Either way, I’ll be the one to finish this…”
Trunks: 35,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 1,750,000,000
Piccolo: 1,200,000,000
-W/ weights: 1,000,000,000
Chapter: 392 (DBZ 198), P13.1-5
Goku: “Hey… Piccolo! Did you go into the Room of Spirit and Time?”
Piccolo: “Indeed.”
Goku: “I can tell! You’ve risen to an entirely different level.”
Piccolo: “…Why don’t you just be frank with me? I’ve grown stronger, but even so, it won’t do any good against Cell…”
Goku: “…Yeah, it won’t do any good.”
Kuririn: 1,000,000
Tenshinhan: 360,000
Yamcha: 240,000
Mr. Satan: 8
Super Saiyan Goku: 3,000,000,000
-Half Strength: 1,500,000,000
Super Saiyan Gohan: 3,500,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2(Enraged): 8,750,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 7,000,000,000
Chapter: 402 (DBZ 208), P6.5, P7.1-6
Context: after Goku asks Gohan to be the next one to fight Cell
Piccolo: “Don’t talk crazy, Goku! There’s no way he’d be able to fight! It’s true that he’s raised his abilities so much that he’s unrecognizable, but his opponent is Cell, who even you were no match for!”
Goku: “Piccolo, Gohan has more unbelievable power than we think. Think about it. He’s fought the same as everyone since he was a little squirt…When I was about his age, I wasn’t anything special.”
Kuririn: “B-but even if he’s become a Super Saiyan…Th-this is so quick…”
Goku: “In the Room of Spirit and Time, the dormant power sealed away deep, deep inside him began to be released. Why don’t we try asking him? How about it, Gohan? Did you think that dad and Cell’s fight just now was too incredible and you couldn’t keep up?”
Gohan: “N-no, I didn’t think so…But neither of you were fighting all-out, right…!?”
Goku: “I don’t know about Cell, but I was going all-out. So in other words, to you it felt like I was holding back?”
Chapter: 404 (DBZ 210), P2.3-4
Context: after Gohan powers up
Vegeta: “That brat…How did he get such a gigantic battle power?…This is impossible…!”
Cell: “Looks like what Son Goku said wasn’t a complete bluff…But it seems he overstated things a little when he said you could defeat me…”
Perfect Cell: 4,800,000,000
-Suppressed: 3,200,000,000
--Super Perfect Form: 7,200,000,000
Cell Junior(s): 2,000,000,000
Chapter: 407 (DBZ 213), P5.3
Context: as the Cell Juniors beat everyone up
Cell (to Gohan): “If you don’t show your true worth soon, things will go past the point of no return. Look closely. Vegeta or Trunks are barely fighting evenly…Even Son Goku is in trouble, having lost his stamina…”[/spoiler]
Boo Arc
[spoiler]Great Saiyaman!
Son Gohan: ~60,000,000
-Super Saiyan: ~3,000,000,000
Chapter: 444 (DBZ 250), P7.1-4
Gohan: “Well, I’ve become a Super Saiyan. Now what? Is it alright if I fight like this?”
Kibito: “…Wh-what tremendous power…I can’t believe he’s a being of the lower world!”
Vegeta: “…Hmph…That bastard, he was far, far better when he killed Cell. It’s because he slacked off in his training during peacetime…”
Kaioshin: “…No, even so this is magnificent energy, more so than I imagined…I wonder if I’ll be able to stop this power…”
Goku: “…Stop it?”
Videl: ~9
Chapter: 424 (DBZ 230), P14.2
Context: as Videl easily beats up the big robber
Gohan: "Heh~~This is surprising! She really is pretty strong...She might just be stronger than Mister Satan."
Son Goten: ~30,000,000
-Super Saiyan: ~1,500,000,000
Trunks: ~35,000,000
-Super Saiyan: ~1,750,000,000
I feel a lot of people greatly underestimate what Goten and Trunks are capable of. I’ll go into greater detail regarding their strength in the 25th Tenkaichi Budokai section, but for now, Gohan states that he may be outstripped by Goten if he’s not careful. What’s more, Gohan states that Goten would make a good sparring partner, and during their sparring sessions, Goten was able to pressure Gohan. After Trunks is able to graze Vegeta, Vegeta asks Trunks who’s stronger between the two, and Trunks says he’s stronger. Goten also admits as much.
Chapter: 427 (DBZ 233), P12.3-6
Context: after Gohan and Goten spar a little bit
Gohan: “You’re very gifted at grappling too, Goten! You really surprised me! I hadn’t known you were that good! If you train well, maybe you’ll be able to enter the Tenkaichi Budoukai too!”
Goten: “Really!? But Trunks is even stronger than me. We play-fight together!”
Gohan: “Really!? That’s how you guys have been playing?...*thinking* If I’m not careful, I’ll be outstripped…by these little squirts…”
Chapter: 429 (DBZ 235), P8.7
Context: after Vegeta asks Trunks if he's stronger than Goten
Trunks: "I'm just a little bit stronger. Goten's 1 year young, and he still can't fly."
Vegeta: ~72,000,000
-Super Saiyan: ~3,600,000,000
Chapter: 426 (DBZ 232), P4.2-3
Context: Vegeta talks to Gohan
Vegeta: “At that time there was a large gap between our powers…But what about now? While you’ve been enjoying peace, I’ve continued to train.”
The 25th Tenkaichi Budokai
Son Gohan: 60,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 3,000,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2 : 6,000,000,000
Videl: 9
Son Goten: 30,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 1,500,000,000
Trunks: 35,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 1,750,000,000
During the battle between No. 18 and Goten and Trunks disguised as Mighty Mask, Super Saiyan Trunks fires a Kiai cannon at No. 18. Trunks states he was holding back when he fired his attack, and No. 18 was completely blown away by how strong his attack was. With all of this in mind we can be sure that a suppressed Super Saiyan Trunks is stronger than No. 18. Movie 11 gives greater credence to that notion.
Chapter: 453 (DBZ 259), P9.2-7
Context: as Trunks and Goten fight No.18 in their Mighty Mask costume
No.18: “…He really is a weird bastard…His arms and legs are extremely small for his body…And he’s so unusually strong…”
*they become Super Saiyans*
No.18: “!!”
Trunks: “Either way, we’re at a disadvantage in this getup, so we’ve got no choice but to settle this with a kiai cannon!”
Goten: “Eh! But will she be alright?...”
Trunks: “Don’t worry, she won’t die if we do it appropriately. She’s No.18…”
Chapter: 453 (DBZ 259), P10.1-2
Context: as Trunks turns Super Saiyan and prepares to fire a ki blast at No.18
No.18: “…I see…Super Saiyan, huh?...I finally know your identity, boys…”
Goten: “Don’t do it at full force!”
Trunks: “I know, I know!”
Chapter: 453 (DBZ 259), P12.4, P13.1
Context: after Trunks’ ki blast explodes
No.18: “Yo-you’ve got to be kidding…That energy bullet had absolutely incredible speed and destructive power…Co-could it be that those squirts have outrageous power?…This is dangerous! I’ve got to settle this fight soon!”
Vegeta: 72,000,000
Son Goku(Suppressed): 75,000,000
Piccolo(W/ weights): 1,500,000,000
Kuririn: 1,000,000
Yamcha: 220,000
Android No.18: 400,000,000
Spopovitch: 26
Yamu: 26
Chapter: 441 (DBZ 247), P12.2-5
Kuririn: “Th-that bastard, he [fired] a ki wave…though it didn’t have that much ki power…!”
Vegeta: “No…He’d lose if he killed her. He purposefully fired a weak one…”
Goku: “…It seems like he has power far surpassing his own abilities…I don’t get it…What’s going on?...”
Kibito: 60,000,000
The Daizenshuu 7 states that kibito would be able to give gohan a good fight, as long as goan isn't a super saiyan.
Kaioshin: 2,400,000,000
Piccolo implies that Kaioshin’s power is on a whole different level than his own.
Chapter: 439 (DBZ 245), P12.3-4
Context: after Piccolo resigns from his and Kaioshin's match
Goku: “That much, Piccolo?...”
Piccolo: “Yeah…Our dimensions…are too different…”
Kuririn: “Yo-you’re kidding, right? Stop joking around! I-I’ve got to fight him next.”
The Evil Wizard, Babbidi
Vegeta: 72,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 3,600,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 7,200,000,000
--Demon Prince (SSJ2): 9,000,000,000
Chapter: 458 (DBZ 264), P8.1-4, P9.4
Context: as Goku and Vegeta are about to fight
Goku: “I don’t wanna take any damage from you and have it become Majin Boo’s energy…So I’m gonna end this quickly, at maximum power.”
Vegeta: “I’m looking forward to this…Show me the fruits of your training in the afterlife. *Goku transforms into Super Saiyan 2* Just as I’d expect. Your power is greater than Gohan’s was back then!”
*Vegeta transforms into a Super Saiyan 2 as well*
Goku: “This don’t look like it’s gonna end quickly…
Son Goku: 90,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 4,500,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 9,000,000,000
Chapter: 458 (DBZ 264), P8.1-4, P9.4
Context: as Goku and Vegeta are about to fight
Goku: “I don’t wanna take any damage from you and have it become Majin Boo’s energy…So I’m gonna end this quickly, at maximum power.”
Vegeta: “I’m looking forward to this…Show me the fruits of your training in the afterlife. *Goku transforms into Super Saiyan 2* Just as I’d expect. Your power is greater than Gohan’s was back then!”
Son Gohan: 60,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 3,000,000,000
--Super Saiyan 2: 6,000,000,000
It is unclear whether or not Gohan was a Super Saiyan 2 when fighting Dabura. In the manga, Gohan didn’t display any attributes of the Super Saiyan 2 form, however, Goku states that Dabura is probably about as strong as Cell. If Gohan was a Super Saiyan, that wouldn’t make a lot of sense, as Cell powered up even further when fighting Super Saiyan 2 Gohan. The anime is a little more clear on the matter in that it provides extra dialogue implying Gohan was going all out. What’s more, Gohan definitely looked like a Super Saiyan 2 in the anime.
Chapter: 450 (DBZ 256), P2.5, P3.1-4
Context: after Kaioshin again warns against unleashing Boo
Vegeta: “Hmph…The way things are going, this ‘Majin Boo’ guy isn’t going to be anything special, is he? Just like that ‘Dabra’ jerk…[ ] I’m saying that this ‘Dabra’ guy doesn’t seem as bad as you two feared. Looking at his attacks and movement outside earlier, it seems that if we just watch out for his spit, then we should manage something. I can’t call Kibito anything but a bumbler for getting done-in like that…”
Kaioshin: “…Is-is that true, Son Goku?...”
Goku: “Yeah…Well, even if that wasn’t him at full force…I think that before he would have been a frightening opponent, but…7 years ago there was a guy called ‘Cell’…[Dabura]’s probably about as strong as him…”
Episode: 228
Gohan: “What on earth could his intention be?”
Vegeta: “It’s you whose intention I want to know! How could you fail to take down a guy of his level?! If you were even a paltry member of our fighting race, once you started a fight, you’d make sure to take your opponent’s last breath from them!! You’re all too soft!! Everyone of you, fighting behind the mask of justice--it disgusts me! It’s power that commands the fight! The strong are the only ones who survive, while the weak die! Power is everything!”
Gohan: “But--”
Vegeta: “Take a look at Piccolo and them! It’s only because they were weak that they were turned to stone! Hmph! They’re a disgrace!”
Gohan: “That’s right! If i’d only defeated Dabura, Piccolo-san and Kuririn-san would have been turned to normal…”
Goku: “Let it stand at that, Vegeta. Gohan did everything he could do, after all.”
Babbidi: 2
Pui Pui(Pocus): 144,000
Pui Pui was easily beaten by Vegeta, so it’s hard to say how strong he is. Since he thinks being able to move freely in 10 times gravity is impressive, I imagine he isn’t very strong.
Yakon: 80,000,000
-Light Absorbed: 1,200,000,000
Yakon seemed to be around as strong as base goku, perhaps a little weaker. Bobbidi notes that Yakon has 800 Kiris in comparison to Goku’s 3000 Kiris, according to Bobbidi’s energy measuring device. It should be noted, however, that 800 and 3,000 are numbers that are often used to symbolize an “enormous amount” in Japan, so I choose not to take these numbers at face value. That said, Bobbidi’s energy measuring device seems to cap at 3,000, so Super Saiyan Goku’s actually Kiri reading might be much higher than 3,000.
Chapter: 451 (DBZ 257), P3.1
Context: after Babidi measures Super Saiyan Goku's energy as 3,000 kiri
Babidi: "...Is this measuring device malfunctioning...? But if he really is 3,000 kiri... Then Yakon can't win against him... Yakon's energy is 800 kiri..."
Dabura: 3,000,000,000
-Full Power: 6,000,000,000
Dabura’s power is dependent on whether or not Gohan was a Super Saiyan 2. Goku notes that Dabura is stronger than he originally thought because of his use of magic.
Chapter: 455 (DBZ 261), P6.1-2
Context: as Dabura fights Gohan
Goku: “Magic, huh? He’s way stronger than I thought, ain’t he?”
Vegeta: “Hmph…Even so, he’s not an opponent [he? we?] can’t win against. [Gohan]’s so pathetic…So much so that he was stronger as a brat…”
Goku: “He really did slack off!”
Majin Boo is Resurrected
Demon Prince Vegeta: 9,000,000,000
-Final Atonement: 18,000,000,000
Majin Boo: 12,000,000,000
-Angry: 18,000,000,000
-Enraged: 36,000,000,000
It should be noted that Super Saiyan 2 Gohan’s energy was enough to fuel roughly half the energy required to revive Boo. As such, I think that Boo’s initial maximum is twice Super Saiyan 2 Gohan’s. The angrier Boo gets, the more power he has access to. When his anger reaches its limit, Boo splits.
Son Goku: 90,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 4,500,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 9,000,000,000
--Super Saiyan 3: 36,000,000,000
Goku ends up buying time for Trunks to find the Dragon Radar. Since Vegeta couldn’t beat Boo, Goku opts to use Super Saiyan 3. His power far surpasses Boo’s, but as the fight progresses, Boo’s power increases.
Son Goten: 30,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 1,500,000,000
Trunks: 35,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 1,750,000,000
Chapter: 468 (DBZ 274), P12.7
Piccolo: “These two are our only hope…! Th-though it’s a faint hope…”
When Goten and Trunks power up for Goku, Piccolo is completely taken back by how powerful they are, giving further credence to the notion that Goten and Trunks are much stronger than a lot of people think
Gotenks: 600,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 30,000,000,000
Goku states that Gotenks should be stronger than he is, however, it is revealed later that Goku was holding back during his battle with Boo, so it’s hard to say how Gotenks compares to Goku’s maximum. I personally don’t think he’s as strong.
Chapter: 476 (DBZ 282), P9.3
Piccolo: “If that bastard felt like it, he could wipe out the entire Earth, up here included, in the blink of an eye…!”
Goku: “It’s alright, I don’t think he’ll take out the Earth. After all, I told him that in 2 days, someone stronger than me would fight him, and he seemed happy…”
Chapter: 509 (DBZ 315), P11.4-6
Context: as Goku prepares to fight Boo
Goku: “Alrii~~iight. I’d better go all out right from the start…! If we get done in, then the entire universe will go ‘poof’…”
Vegeta: “Let me see this ‘Super Saiyan 3’ thing with my own eyes…”
Goku: “Is that alright? You just might not get your turn…I can say this now, but the truth is that with that fat Boo, I would have been able to defeat him at the time with Super Saiyan 3…However, I wanted the young guys to manage something…For the Earth’s sake too…”
After Super Saiyan Gotenks is formed for the first time, Piccolo states that Gotenks’s Ki is incredible. At no point does Piccolo second guess Goku’s predictions about Gotenks’s strength.
Chapter: 482 (DBZ 288), P7.2-3
Context: after Super Saiyan Gotenks forms for the first time
Piccolo: “…Yeah…Your ki really is absolutely incredible, but how about your movement?...Show me a little.”
Gotenks: “Is that alright? If I show you here, the house might break. I’ll do it on the ground.”
After Evil Boo is formed, it is implied that Gotenks could have taken the fat Majin Boo.
Chapter: 486 (DBZ 292), P2.2-6
Context: after Boo transforms into evil Boo
Piccolo: “…Have you noticed? …This change in Majin Boo’s ki…[ ] …He’s changed…All due to some idiotic Earthlings…He’s become pure evil, and his body has become more suited toward battle…Th-this…this…”
Kuririn: “Wha…What?...D-don’t tell me you’re saying this is bad!? …It’s al-alright! We’ve got the squirts’ Fusion! Goku said that right? That Fusion was the strongest…!”
Dende: “…”
Piccolo: “…That’d be nice, but…”
Chapter: 487 (DBZ 293), P13.5
Context: as Piccolo plans on having Goten and Trunks train in the Room of Spirit and Time
Piccolo: “Can’t you tell…?! As they are now, even if they perform Fusion they can’t win, no doubt about it…! Tell them that if they don’t want to die while they’re still just little brats, then they should train as much as they can…!”
Good Boo: 12,000,000,000
Pure Evil Boo: 24,000,000,000
The Mightiest Warrior!!
Son Goten: 45,000,000
Trunks: 45,000,000
Goten and Trunks have gotten significantly stronger thanks to training in the ROSAT.
Gotenks: 900,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 45,000,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 90,000,000,000
-Super Saiyan 3: 360,000,000,000
Gotenks’s power increased substantially after training in the ROSAT. I think that the build up Gotenks received was highly exaggerated though. Still, the Daizenshuu 7 states that Gotenks surpassed Majin Vegeta after training in the ROSAT. Since he was already stronger as a Super Saiyan prior to training in the ROSAT, one can only assume Gotenks’s base battle power is greater than Majin Vegeta’s. Seeing as how Gotenks can now turn Super Saiyan after fusing, he should be able to power up his base state with Super Saiyan energy like Goku did during the Ano Yo-Ichi Budokai
Chapter: 489 (DBZ 295), P3.5
Context: Trunks doesn't like the idea of fighting Boo as a Super Saiyan 3 from the start
Trunks: "I think...that we've already progressed so much that even in a regular state Fusion, we'll be about equal with Majin Boo..."
Chapter: 489 (DBZ 295), P11.5
Context: seeing Gotenks after he'd trained in the Room of Spirit and Time
Piccolo: "He-he really is different...! He really has greatly powered up...! Th-this just might...!"
Chapter: 489 (DBZ 295), P12.4-7
Context: Gotenks attacks Boo, to no effect
Boo: "May I attack now?"
Gotenks: "...Wa-wait a little bit...*thinking* ...Tha-that's strange...That should have effected him a decent amount, but...Hahha~~an! He's just pretending it didn't hurt him..."
Piccolo: "...Th-this may be hopeless..."
Super Boo: 360,000,000,000
-Gotenks Absorbed: 721,500,000,000
-Piccolo Absorbed: 361,500,000,000
-Gohan Absorbed: 961,590,000,000
Evil Boo’s power is comparable to that of Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks. The Kaioshin Boo has absorbed seem to affect Boo’s power in strange ways. When Pure Evil Boo absorbed Good Boo, his power skyrocketed, much like it did when Pure Boo absorbed South Kaioshin. It should also be noted that Evil Boo’s power is far greater than Super Saiyan 3 Goku’s.
Chapter: 507 (DBZ 313), P12.4-5
Context: after Goku and Vegeta revert Boo back to regular evil Boo
Goku: “Hehhe~~eh! With this, Boo’s power should have fallen significantly! We’re almost there! See, see: the size of his ki is completely different than before!”
Vegeta: “Alright! Let’s blast out of here and escape!”
Goku: “Wait! Even though Boo has returned to normal a whole lot, we’re still simply no match for his strength! If we go outside like this, we’ll definitely be done in…!”
Ultimate Gohan: 600,000,000,000
Chapter: 498 (DBZ 304), P1.3, P2.4
Context: after Gohan beats up on Boo
Gohan: “You can’t win…”
[ ]
Gohan: “I see…So you tried testing your power just to be sure, and I really was above you…That’s too bad, Majin Boo.”
Tenshinhan: 720,000
Kibitoshin: 6,000,000,000
Chapter: 501 (DBZ 307), P11.2-4
Context: right after Kaioshin and Kibito merge
Kaioshin: “Oooh! Am-amazing! This is amazing power! Hahaah! [ ] Goku! I can fight too like this! I’ll go with you!”
Elder Kaioshin: “Don’t get carried away! No matter how strong you’ve become, you were never anything special. I doubt you could fight Boo head-on; you’d just end up getting absorbed. So stay here.”
Son Goku: 90,000,000
Vegeta: 90,000,000
Vegetto: 900,000,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 45,000,000,000,000
Elder Kaioshin notes that Vegetto is abnormally powerful.
Chapter: 504 (DBZ 310), P9.2-3
Context: as Vegetto beats up on Gohan-absorbed Boo
Kaioshin-Kibito: “H-he’s strong!!! Majin Boo there is helpless!!! To think that merging with the Potara would be this incredible…!!”
Elder Kaioshin: “Idiot, it’s because it was those two that they were able to go so far. Two of the top 3 masters in both the living world and afterlife have merged, after all. What’s more, two rivals have joined together. That’s definitely strongest.”
The anime shows base Vegetto going toe to toe with Evil Boo(Gohan Absorbed), so Vegetto should probably be around as strong as Boo.
The Orginal Boo!?
Pure(Kid) Boo: 36,000,000,000
Chapter: 507 (DBZ 313), P13.5
Context: as evil Boo reverts to his South Kaioshin form
Goku: “H-hey…Vegeta…His ki is increasing, ain’t it…!?”
Chapter: 508 (DBZ 314), P3.4-6
Context: after Boo reverts to his pure form
Goku: “…”
Vegeta: “……Heh…Heheheh…Look! He’s shrunk down quite a bit!”
Goku: “We did it! This way, we might be able to manage something.”
Bibbidi: 2
Son Goku: 90,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 9,000,000,000
-Super Saiyan 3: 36,000,000,000
Vegeta: 90,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 9,000,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2 (Enraged): 11,250,000,000
Mr. Satan: 7.8
Mr. Boo: 12,000,000,000
Super Genki Dama: 50,000,000,000
Chapter: 516 (DBZ 322), P8.5-6
Context: people on Namek and in the afterlife watch Boo stall the Genki-Dama
Elder Kaioshin: “Th-this is bad. Ma-maybe that ‘Genki-Dama’ thing st-still doesn’t have enough power…”
Dende: “Th-that can’t be…! We-we already used our ki…”
Enma Daio: “Ha-hang in there, Son Goku…! Th-that Genki-Dama has power from us here in the afterlife in it too…!”
Regarding the strength of the Genki Dama, Goku notes that Vegeta’s energy wasn’t fully restored upon being revived. One can assume the same applies to Gohan and the others, which is why their energy alone wasn’t enough to destroy Boo.
Chapter: 515 (DBZ 321), P5.3
Context: after Vegeta says he’ll hold off Boo again, so Goku can prepare the Genki-Dama
Goku: “You’ll sta-stall for time?…Yo-you’ve just been restored to life. Your ki still ain’t full, is it?!”
The 28th Tenkaichi Budokai
Son Goku: ???
Vegeta: ???
10 years have passed with no real way of discerning how strong Goku and Vegeta have gotten over the years. Probably superior Super Saiyan 3.
Trunks: 90,000,000
Goten: 90,000,000
Chapter: 519 (DBZ 325), P1.3
Goten: “Th-that can’t be! How can I go up against Boo right in the first round?!”
Goku: “It’s only a problem because you keep slacking off in your training.”
Pan: 9,000,000
Chapter: 518 (DBZ 324), P4.1
Goku: “She won’t be able to win the tournament, I suppose, but she should definitely be able to go pretty far. Right now, Pan is the one in our family with the most guts!”
Pan: “Yeah!”
Mr. Satan: 7
Mr. Boo: 12,000,000,000
Oob: 36,000,000,000
Since Oob is the reincarnation of Pure Boo, his potential should be equal to Pure Boo’s. Goku notes that Oob may be stronger than even Good Boo, so it’s possible that Oob is already as strong as Pure Boo. Goku states later than he was incredible as he expected, so it’s likely he is as strong as Pure Boo when his anger is pushed to its limit.
Chapter: 518 (DBZ 324), P6.5
Goku: “…But someone besides us and Boo might win.”
Satan: “Hahhahhah, now really! There’s no way that could happen, right?”
Chapter: 519 (DBZ 325), P12.2-5
Context: Oob is surprised by Goku’s Bukujutsu
Goku: “Oh, I see. You still don’t even know how to fly, huh? …I guess there ain’t no helping it. You haven’t had no teacher, and you probably never even considered things like that. Sorry I bad-mouthed you before. Please forgive me. I just wanted to know your true ability. You’re exactly the person I thought you were. As amazin’ as I expected. But you don’t know how to use your power. This is the first time you’ve fought like this, right? I've got it! From now on I'll live with you at your house and teach you!”
The End[/spoiler]
Dragonball Z Sagas
Saiyan Arc
[spoiler]Goku's Older Brother!?
Raditz: 1,500
-Initial: 1,200
Farmer: 5
Son Goku: 334
-W/o Weights: 416
-Kamehameha: 924
Piccolo: 322
-W/o Weights: 408
--Makankosappo: 1,330 - 1,480
Son Gohan: 1
-Upset: 710
--Enraged: 1,307
Kame-sennin: 139
Kuririn: 206
Umigame: 0.001
Yamcha: 177
Tenshinhan: 250
Chaozu: 122
Yajirobe: 185
Enma Daio: 2,000
Kaio: 3,500
The Saiyans Finally Arrive
Piccolo: 1,220
-Full Power: 3,500
Son Gohan: 981
-Enraged: 2,800
-Zenkai: 1,250
--Oozaru (Injured): 4,500
Yamcha: 1,480
Tenshinhan: 1,830
Chaozu: 610
Yajirobe: 970
Saibaimen: 1,200
Nappa: 4,000
-Full Power: 4,800
Number 4,000 is taken from Daizenshuu 7 and I'm put Nappa Full Power Lower than 5,000 but slighty higer than 4,000, because he is Power Up.
Son Goku: 8,000
-Suppressed: 5,000
--Kaio-ken: 16,000
-Kaio-ken x3: 24,000
-Kaio-ken x4: 32,000
Vegeta: 18,000
-Fatigued: 12,000
--Oozaru (Post Powerball): 80,000
-Injured: 2,000
Genki Dama: 130,000
-Weakened: 6,500[/spoiler]
Freeza Arc
[spoiler]Let's Go Namek!!
Kuririn: 1,800
-Potential Unlocked: 7,000
Son Gohan: 1,500
-Potential Unlocked: 8,000
Vegeta: 24,000
-Zenkai: 30,000
Chapter: 249 (DBZ 55), P3.2-6, P4.1-2
Context: Freeza, Zarbon and Dodoria discuss Vegeta's battle power as he powers up against Kui. Zarbon's scouter had exploded.
Zarbon: "I... I think it's a malfunction, but... My scouter was set on Vegeta, and as the figures surpassed twe... 22,000..."
Dodoria: "It's definitely a malfunction! Your scouter's an old model, after all. I'll check out the correct figure off mine..."
Zarbon: "What's the figure...?"
Dodoria: "Th... that's impossible... Is my new model malfunctioning too...?! It's risen to up to twe... 24,000... !!"
Zarbon: "24,000...?! Are you saying it's higher than o... our own battle powers...?!"
Dodoria: "Th... this can't be...!! H... his battle power was barely 18,000..."
Freeza: "That shouldn't be a surprise. It's all because Vegeta's been ceaselessly fighting on the front lines. Perhaps he's caught on to something new on Earth. It's merely 24,000. That's a figure that you two would be more than able to win against if you fought together, is it not? Fufufu..."
Chapter: 275 (DBZ 81), P4.2
Context: Vegeta powers up to fight Reacoom.
Jheese: "Hey, hey, Vegeta's battle power has risen up close to 30,000!"
Kui: 18,000
Namekian Warriors: 3,000
-Suppressed: 1,000
Dodoria: 22,000
Zarbon: 23,000
-Transformed: 28,000
The Ginyu Force!
Son Gohan: 14,000
-Zenkai: 26,000
Kuririn: 13,000
-Potential Increasing: 23,000+
Vegeta: 30,000
-Zenkai: 120,000
I'm giving Vegeta (After Reacoom fight) Battle power of 120,000 because i think 250,000 is too high.
Chapter: 289 (DBZ 95), P6.1-2
Context: after Jheese freaks out over Vegeta's new battle power
Vegeta: “That’s right…I’ve surpassed Saiyan limits, and my strength is still increasing more and more…The truth is that I’ve realized it too…That this extension of my power isn’t merely what you’d call giftedness…In other words…I’m steadily drawing near…to becoming a Super Saiyan!”
Gurd: 5,000
Chapter: 273 (DBZ 79), P2.6
Kuririn: “Th…that one…He’s the only one who’s nothing special…Wh-what’s he doing mixed in with those guys…?!”
Reacoom: 40,000
Jheese: 40,000
Butta: 40,000
These 3 are noted to be more or less on par with one another. Ginyu also notes that a person with a battle power of 60,000 should easily be able to dispatch of these 3.
Chapter: 281 (DBZ 87), P11.1
Context: Gohan doesn't think Jheese and Burta are that strong
Kuririn: "Th...that shouldn't be... Th...those guys have about the same amount of ki as th...that Reacoom guy, and not even Vegeta could do anything against him...But Goku's too strong, so those guys don't look like anything special..."
Gohan: "I... I suppose... But father's ki is a lot smaller than theirs..."
Chapter: 283 (DBZ 89), P11.1-3
Ginyu: "In my estimation, his ability looks like it's about 60,000."
Jheese: "Six... 60,000!? H-he's a Saiyan!! Whoever heard of a Saiyan at 60,000...?!!"
Ginyu: “It’s not impossible. He could be like us, a super-gifted warrior, born with a mutation…Looks like this will be an unprecedentedly entertaining battle…I never thought the time would come for me to show my true power.”
Son Goku: 90,000
-Suppressed: 5,000
-Ginyu Estimate: 60,000
--Kaio-ken: 180,000
Chapter: 285 (DBZ 91), P1.2-3, P2.2
Context: as Goku continues to use the Kaio-ken
Ginyu: "Twe... 120,000... 130,000... 140,000... It's sti... sti... still rising... !!!! It... it can't be... 160,000... "Eigh... 180,000...?! Un...unbelievable...Th-this is your true power...?!!"
Captain Ginyu: 120,000
-Goku's Body: 23,000+
Chapter: 285 (DBZ 91), P3.1
Jheese: "Even Ca... Captain Ginyu's highest figure is 120,000..."
Chapter: 288 (DBZ 94), P13.2-4
Context: Ginyu powers up in Goku’s body
Ginyu: "Guhahahahaha...!!!! Jheese!! How much is my battle power?!"
Jheese: ".....Twe... 23,000...."
Ginyu: “Twe…23,000…only 23,000…!?”
Nail: 42,000
Chapter: 286 (DBZ 92), P5.1-2
Context: Nail powers up for Freeza
Freeza: "Hoh! This is incredible! Your battle power has risen to 42,000. I see, you truly do seem to be completely different than all the Namekians up to now. I'm surprised...This is a magnificent battle power! I can see why you're called a Warrior-type. It's enough to make me want you for an underling."
Freeza (50%): 265,000
Chapter: 286 (DBZ 92), P5.4
Freeza: "My battle power is 530,000. But of course, I don't intend to fight you at full power, so you can relax..."
The Legendary Super Saiyan
Vegeta: 480,000
-Zenkai: 2,400,000
Kuririn: 75,000
Son Gohan: 200,000
-Enraged: 800,000
--Zenkai: 400,000
-Enraged: 1,600,000
Chapter: 299 (DBZ 105), P13.1
Context: after Gohan is healed by Dende
Vegeta: “Heh…Just as you’d expect of someone with Saiyan blood, after reviving his battle power has greatly risen…A-alright! Luck is turning our way just a little bit…
Freeza: 530,000
-First Transformation: 1,060,000
--Full Power: 1,200,000
-Second Transformation: 1,800,000
--Final Form: 3,000,000
-50%: 60,000,000
-100%: 120,000,000
Freeza’s second form is stated to have a battle power that exceeds 1 million. After powering up, he is able to gain the upper hand on Piccolo. After Piccolo removes his weighted clothing, Freeza ascends to his third form, which surpasses Piccolo’s full power. After an angry Gohan pressures Freez’s third form, Freeza ascends to his final form, and easily defeats a renewed Vegeta, but has a hard time against a renewed Goku. After warming up for a bit, Freeza decides to showcase 50% of his power, and this 60 million figure is taken from the Daizenshuu 7. After Goku turns into a Super Saiyan, Freeza decides to go all out. His 120 million figure is also taken from the Daizenshuu 7.
Piccolo(W/ weights): 56,250
-Merged With Nail: 1,125,000
-W/o Weights: 1,350,000
Piccolo has gotten a lot stronger after training on Kaio’s planet. Nail even seems to imply that Piccolo is stronger than he is. After merging with Nail, he is able to go toe to toe with Freeza in his second form.
Chapter: 295 (DBZ 101), P1.4, P2.1-5, P3.1
Nail: “I-I’m astonished…I don’t know what kind of training you’ve done, but you’ve acquired unbelievable power…Still, it’s unfortunate…If you had only returned to the original, single Namekian you were, you might have been able to defeat even Freeza…”
Piccolo: “Are you saying that if I merged with God once again, my power would even surpass Freeza!?”
Nail: “Th-that’s right…I was overwhelmingly defeated by Freeza, but I should have a good comprehension of his abilities…[ ] So merge with me…! I’m also the only fighting-type Namekian on this planet…[ ] That’s right…Your power will become many times greater…”
Piccolo: “…You’re not lying, are you?”
Nail: “If you think so, you can just go get killed by Freeza…”
Son Goku: 3,000,000
-Kaio-ken x10: 30,000,000
--Kaio-ken x20: 60,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 150,000,000
Large Genki Dama: 75,000,000
Freeza was unable hold the Large Genki Dama back, so one can assume its power is greater than that of Freeza’s when at half strength.[/spoiler]
Cell Arc
[spoiler]The Mysterious Youth
Mecha Freeza: 160,000,000
-Suppressed: 4,000,000
Freeza is now stronger than he was on Namek thanks to his cybernetic enhancements. Due to his confidence, I assume he’s stronger than Super Saiyan Goku was on Namek.
Chapter: 330 (DBZ 136), P13.3-4
Cold: "The Earthlings don't matter, but the Super Saiyan alone we absolutely must exterminate, by any means. The one who holds the greatest power in the universe must without a doubt be our clan"
Freeza: "We can definitely defeat him if we go at him together, Papa. And I've powered up too, so I think I can probably go alone."
When Yamcha senses Freeza’s power, Gohan states that he can get much stronger. Freeza never seems to power up prior to his death, so I assume he was suppressed while taking on Trunks.
Chapter: 330 (DBZ 136), P9.7
Yamcha: “So this guy called ‘Fr…Freeza’ has such terrible…ab…absurdly large ki…?”
Gohan: “This isn’t it…he gets much, much stronger…!”
King Cold: 100,000,000
Vegeta: 3,200,000
Piccolo(W/ weights): 2,250,000
Son Gohan: 400,000
Kuririn: 100,000
Tenshinhan: 72,000
Yamcha: 48,000
Future Trunks: 3,600,000
-Super Saiyan: 180,000,000
--Super Saiyan (Holding Back Against Goku): 90,000,000
Since Trunks took out a stronger Freeza, one can assume Trunks is stronger than Goku was on Namek. Granted, Freeza seemed to be suppressed even up to his death, but Trunks was confident he could take out Freeza at full power.
Chapter: 331 (DBZ 137), P9.1
Context: challenging Freeza and Cold
Trunks: “Come at me at full power right from the start. I’m not soft like Son Goku…”
Son Goku: 4,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 200,000,000
After battle with freeza goku's got a zenkai (1.33x).
Chapter: 334 (DBZ 140), P13.3-5
Context: after Trunks and Goku fight
Trunks: “As expected, the rumors were true. No, you’re even greater…This was the sword that cut even Freeza…”
Goku: “You weren’t serious, after all.”
The Artificial Humans Are Released
Son Goku: 6,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 300,000,000
--Super Saiyan (Heart Virus): 100,000,000-
Piccolo: 225,000,000
-W/ weights: 187,500,000
--Merged With Kami: 375,000,000
-W/o weights: 450,000,000
Piccolo seems to have gotten a substantial boost by training with Super Saiyan Goku. When Piccolo was fighting Dr. Gero, Kuririn notes that Piccolo’s power has become comparable to a Super Saiyan.
Chapter: 346 (DBZ 152), P12.4
Kuririn: “He’s st-strong…! What kind of training did Piccolo do…And he’s not even a Su-Super Saiyan…”
After merging with God, Piccolo becomes twice as strong, since he’s reunited with his other half.
Son Gohan: 3,000,000
Kuririn: 1,000,000
Tenshinhan: 360,000
Yamcha: 240,000
Vegeta: 6,400,000
-Super Saiyan: 320,000,000
Chapter: 345 (DBZ 151), P6.1-2
Context: after Vegeta scares No.20 away with a bluff
Piccolo: "He really had lost a lot of stamina...when he confirmed that the Artificial Humans sucked out energy with the palms of their hands...He ought to have lost if he had fought that No.20 guy...But he talked as if he still had something up his sleeve...Vegeta really is a fighting genius...He might have sur-surpassed...Goku..."
Trunks: 4,800,000
-Super Saiyan: 240,000,000
Android No. 19: 75,000,000
-Energy Absorbed: 225,000,000
Chapter: 341 (DBZ 147), P14.6
Context: after No.19 absorbs Goku’s attack
No.20: “Alright! No.19’s maximum power rating has greatly increased from what it was before! In contrast, Son Goku’s energy has fallen remarkably…!”
Android No.20: 100,000,000
-Energy Absorbed: 150,000,000
Chapter: 340 (DBZ 146), P14.1
Context: after Goku transforms into a Super Saiyan
No.20: “However, this isn’t anything great enough to give us reason to fear. It’s still within a level which even No.19 is more than capable of defeating, and naturally that goes for myself as well…”
Android No.18: 400,000,000
Chapter: 353 (DBZ 159), P10.2-4, P11.1
Context: after Vegeta continues to fight No.18
Vegeta: “This is really starting to annoy me. You act as if nothing’s happened…”
No.18: “I’m surprised. To think that a flesh-and-blood human could be so good, even if you are an alien. Is this man called ‘Son Goku’ even stronger?”
Vegeta: “Don’t kid yourself. He may have temporarily slipped by me, but now things have returned to normal and I should be on top again.”
No.18: “What? So you’re nothing special. Either of you.”
Chapter: 367 (DBZ 173), title page
Text box: “Her power is more suppressed than No.17's, but in the end she too is a failure who doesn't listen to orders.”
Android No.17: 450,000,000
Based on Piccolo’s battle with No. 17, it would appear that No. 17 is equal to Piccolo after he’s merged with God.
Cell: 360,000,000
Cell is strong enough to give a weighted Piccolo some trouble. Because of that, we can at least be sure he’s weaker than No. 17 at this point in the story.
Cell is Complete!
Piccolo: 450,000,000
Android No.17: 450,000,000
Android No.18: 400,000,000
Cell: 550,000,000
-Second Form: 800,000,000
--Full Power: 1,000,000,000
-Perfect Form (Suppressed): 1,600,000,000
Cell has grown stronger by absorbing countless Earthlings. His power is equal to that of No. 16’s.
Chapter: 371 (DBZ 177), P6.4
Context: before No.16 goes to fight first form Cell
No.16: “According to my calculations, my power is about equal to Cell’s.”
After absorbing No. 17, Cell add’s his power to his own. Cell is suppressed when Vegeta shows up. Even after powering up, he’s still no match for Vegeta, however.
Chapter: 378 (DBZ 184), P7.3, P8.1
Context: after Vegeta beats up Cell more
Cell: “Seems you want me to get serious…”
Vegeta: “I thought you already were serious…”
Chapter: 378 (DBZ 184), P11.2, P11.4
Context: After Cell unleashes his full power
Vegeta: “Oh, your battle power really flew up there…But so what?”
Trunks: “…This is father’s victory.”
After absorbing No. 18, Cell’s power goes through a drastic change, being greater than the sum of his parts. Having both Artificial Humans absorbed likely triggered a reaction within Cell’s body, granting him a substantial power boost. He is suppressed when facing both Vegeta and Trunks, as it is revealed later that he can power up even further during the Cell Games.
Android No.16: 550,000,000
Tenshinhan: 360,000
-Shin Kikoho!: 720,000,000
Since Tenshinhan was able to keep Cell down, I’m pretty much forced to assume the Shin Kikoho’s power level is massive.
Vegeta: 18,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 900,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2nd Grade: 1,350,000,000
Trunks seems to imply that Super Saiyan Vegeta is already stronger than a suppressed Second Form Cell. I would assume he’s still inferior to Cell’s full power in his second form. After ascending to the second grade, his power eclipses Cell’s.
Chapter: 377 (DBZ 183), P3.1-2
Context: as Vegeta is about to fight second form Cell
Trunks: “Father intends to ‘become’ that right off the bat…! [Become] that…!”
Future Trunks: 17,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 850,000,000
--Super Saiyan 2nd Grade: 1,275,000,000
-Super Saiyan 3rd Grade: 1,700,000,000
Chapter: 379 (DBZ 185), P11.4
Context: Vegeta talks to second form Cell
Vegeta: “Heh. I’ll tell you something that will really shock you! There’s a guy named Trunks over there. He’s not as powerful as me, but we’re pretty close…!”
Cell also notes that Trunks’s power in his grade 3 form is superior to that of his in his suppressed state.
Chapter: 387 (DBZ 193), P1.3, P2.1-3
Context: as Trunks uses his Super Saiyan Grade III power
Trunks: “What you’re about to see now…is my true power!!!”
Cell: “I see…It truly is magnificent power…You easily surpass me…But you can’t win against me like that…Absolutely not…”
Super Saiyan Goku(Suppressed): 600,000,000
-Half Strength: 1,500,000,000
Super Saiyan Gohan(Suppressed): 700,000,000
Goku and Gohan in their suppressed states are clearly weaker than Vegeta and Trunks, since neither have realized they have been surpassed. Half of Goku’s strength was enough to surpass that of Vegeta’s grade 2 form, seeing as how Vegeta admitted is inferiority without even knowing that was only half of Goku’s power.
Chapter: 391 (DBZ 197), P10.4-5
Context: After powering up and almost destroying Karin’s tower…
Goku: “That just now was about half power. What do you think?”
Karin: “Half power…?! What a fearsome guy you are…How strong will you become before you’re satisfied…?!”
Chapter: 391 (DBZ 197), P13.1-2
Context: After sensing half of Full Power Super Saiyan Goku’s max power from a distance.
Vegeta (to self): “Damn you, Kakarot… It’s always like this… He’s always a step ahead of me…! It drives me crazy…Just when I think I’ve caught up, he widens the lead again…”
Cell Games
Vegeta: 36,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 1,800,000,000
We can be sure that Vegeta has surpassed the strength Goku displayed for Karin, since Vegeta was initially confident he was going to win the Cell Games.
Chapter: 395 (DBZ 201), P13.5
Context: after Goku says he’ll fight first Cell first
Vegeta: “Do what you want. Either way, I’ll be the one to finish this…”
Trunks: 35,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 1,750,000,000
Piccolo: 1,200,000,000
-W/ weights: 1,000,000,000
Chapter: 392 (DBZ 198), P13.1-5
Goku: “Hey… Piccolo! Did you go into the Room of Spirit and Time?”
Piccolo: “Indeed.”
Goku: “I can tell! You’ve risen to an entirely different level.”
Piccolo: “…Why don’t you just be frank with me? I’ve grown stronger, but even so, it won’t do any good against Cell…”
Goku: “…Yeah, it won’t do any good.”
Kuririn: 1,000,000
Tenshinhan: 360,000
Yamcha: 240,000
Mr. Satan: 8
Super Saiyan Goku: 3,000,000,000
-Half Strength: 1,500,000,000
Super Saiyan Gohan: 3,500,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2(Enraged): 8,750,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 7,000,000,000
Chapter: 402 (DBZ 208), P6.5, P7.1-6
Context: after Goku asks Gohan to be the next one to fight Cell
Piccolo: “Don’t talk crazy, Goku! There’s no way he’d be able to fight! It’s true that he’s raised his abilities so much that he’s unrecognizable, but his opponent is Cell, who even you were no match for!”
Goku: “Piccolo, Gohan has more unbelievable power than we think. Think about it. He’s fought the same as everyone since he was a little squirt…When I was about his age, I wasn’t anything special.”
Kuririn: “B-but even if he’s become a Super Saiyan…Th-this is so quick…”
Goku: “In the Room of Spirit and Time, the dormant power sealed away deep, deep inside him began to be released. Why don’t we try asking him? How about it, Gohan? Did you think that dad and Cell’s fight just now was too incredible and you couldn’t keep up?”
Gohan: “N-no, I didn’t think so…But neither of you were fighting all-out, right…!?”
Goku: “I don’t know about Cell, but I was going all-out. So in other words, to you it felt like I was holding back?”
Chapter: 404 (DBZ 210), P2.3-4
Context: after Gohan powers up
Vegeta: “That brat…How did he get such a gigantic battle power?…This is impossible…!”
Cell: “Looks like what Son Goku said wasn’t a complete bluff…But it seems he overstated things a little when he said you could defeat me…”
Perfect Cell: 4,800,000,000
-Suppressed: 3,200,000,000
--Super Perfect Form: 7,200,000,000
Cell Junior(s): 2,000,000,000
Chapter: 407 (DBZ 213), P5.3
Context: as the Cell Juniors beat everyone up
Cell (to Gohan): “If you don’t show your true worth soon, things will go past the point of no return. Look closely. Vegeta or Trunks are barely fighting evenly…Even Son Goku is in trouble, having lost his stamina…”[/spoiler]
Boo Arc
[spoiler]Great Saiyaman!
Son Gohan: ~60,000,000
-Super Saiyan: ~3,000,000,000
Chapter: 444 (DBZ 250), P7.1-4
Gohan: “Well, I’ve become a Super Saiyan. Now what? Is it alright if I fight like this?”
Kibito: “…Wh-what tremendous power…I can’t believe he’s a being of the lower world!”
Vegeta: “…Hmph…That bastard, he was far, far better when he killed Cell. It’s because he slacked off in his training during peacetime…”
Kaioshin: “…No, even so this is magnificent energy, more so than I imagined…I wonder if I’ll be able to stop this power…”
Goku: “…Stop it?”
Videl: ~9
Chapter: 424 (DBZ 230), P14.2
Context: as Videl easily beats up the big robber
Gohan: "Heh~~This is surprising! She really is pretty strong...She might just be stronger than Mister Satan."
Son Goten: ~30,000,000
-Super Saiyan: ~1,500,000,000
Trunks: ~35,000,000
-Super Saiyan: ~1,750,000,000
I feel a lot of people greatly underestimate what Goten and Trunks are capable of. I’ll go into greater detail regarding their strength in the 25th Tenkaichi Budokai section, but for now, Gohan states that he may be outstripped by Goten if he’s not careful. What’s more, Gohan states that Goten would make a good sparring partner, and during their sparring sessions, Goten was able to pressure Gohan. After Trunks is able to graze Vegeta, Vegeta asks Trunks who’s stronger between the two, and Trunks says he’s stronger. Goten also admits as much.
Chapter: 427 (DBZ 233), P12.3-6
Context: after Gohan and Goten spar a little bit
Gohan: “You’re very gifted at grappling too, Goten! You really surprised me! I hadn’t known you were that good! If you train well, maybe you’ll be able to enter the Tenkaichi Budoukai too!”
Goten: “Really!? But Trunks is even stronger than me. We play-fight together!”
Gohan: “Really!? That’s how you guys have been playing?...*thinking* If I’m not careful, I’ll be outstripped…by these little squirts…”
Chapter: 429 (DBZ 235), P8.7
Context: after Vegeta asks Trunks if he's stronger than Goten
Trunks: "I'm just a little bit stronger. Goten's 1 year young, and he still can't fly."
Vegeta: ~72,000,000
-Super Saiyan: ~3,600,000,000
Chapter: 426 (DBZ 232), P4.2-3
Context: Vegeta talks to Gohan
Vegeta: “At that time there was a large gap between our powers…But what about now? While you’ve been enjoying peace, I’ve continued to train.”
The 25th Tenkaichi Budokai
Son Gohan: 60,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 3,000,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2 : 6,000,000,000
Videl: 9
Son Goten: 30,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 1,500,000,000
Trunks: 35,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 1,750,000,000
During the battle between No. 18 and Goten and Trunks disguised as Mighty Mask, Super Saiyan Trunks fires a Kiai cannon at No. 18. Trunks states he was holding back when he fired his attack, and No. 18 was completely blown away by how strong his attack was. With all of this in mind we can be sure that a suppressed Super Saiyan Trunks is stronger than No. 18. Movie 11 gives greater credence to that notion.
Chapter: 453 (DBZ 259), P9.2-7
Context: as Trunks and Goten fight No.18 in their Mighty Mask costume
No.18: “…He really is a weird bastard…His arms and legs are extremely small for his body…And he’s so unusually strong…”
*they become Super Saiyans*
No.18: “!!”
Trunks: “Either way, we’re at a disadvantage in this getup, so we’ve got no choice but to settle this with a kiai cannon!”
Goten: “Eh! But will she be alright?...”
Trunks: “Don’t worry, she won’t die if we do it appropriately. She’s No.18…”
Chapter: 453 (DBZ 259), P10.1-2
Context: as Trunks turns Super Saiyan and prepares to fire a ki blast at No.18
No.18: “…I see…Super Saiyan, huh?...I finally know your identity, boys…”
Goten: “Don’t do it at full force!”
Trunks: “I know, I know!”
Chapter: 453 (DBZ 259), P12.4, P13.1
Context: after Trunks’ ki blast explodes
No.18: “Yo-you’ve got to be kidding…That energy bullet had absolutely incredible speed and destructive power…Co-could it be that those squirts have outrageous power?…This is dangerous! I’ve got to settle this fight soon!”
Vegeta: 72,000,000
Son Goku(Suppressed): 75,000,000
Piccolo(W/ weights): 1,500,000,000
Kuririn: 1,000,000
Yamcha: 220,000
Android No.18: 400,000,000
Spopovitch: 26
Yamu: 26
Chapter: 441 (DBZ 247), P12.2-5
Kuririn: “Th-that bastard, he [fired] a ki wave…though it didn’t have that much ki power…!”
Vegeta: “No…He’d lose if he killed her. He purposefully fired a weak one…”
Goku: “…It seems like he has power far surpassing his own abilities…I don’t get it…What’s going on?...”
Kibito: 60,000,000
The Daizenshuu 7 states that kibito would be able to give gohan a good fight, as long as goan isn't a super saiyan.
Kaioshin: 2,400,000,000
Piccolo implies that Kaioshin’s power is on a whole different level than his own.
Chapter: 439 (DBZ 245), P12.3-4
Context: after Piccolo resigns from his and Kaioshin's match
Goku: “That much, Piccolo?...”
Piccolo: “Yeah…Our dimensions…are too different…”
Kuririn: “Yo-you’re kidding, right? Stop joking around! I-I’ve got to fight him next.”
The Evil Wizard, Babbidi
Vegeta: 72,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 3,600,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 7,200,000,000
--Demon Prince (SSJ2): 9,000,000,000
Chapter: 458 (DBZ 264), P8.1-4, P9.4
Context: as Goku and Vegeta are about to fight
Goku: “I don’t wanna take any damage from you and have it become Majin Boo’s energy…So I’m gonna end this quickly, at maximum power.”
Vegeta: “I’m looking forward to this…Show me the fruits of your training in the afterlife. *Goku transforms into Super Saiyan 2* Just as I’d expect. Your power is greater than Gohan’s was back then!”
*Vegeta transforms into a Super Saiyan 2 as well*
Goku: “This don’t look like it’s gonna end quickly…
Son Goku: 90,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 4,500,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 9,000,000,000
Chapter: 458 (DBZ 264), P8.1-4, P9.4
Context: as Goku and Vegeta are about to fight
Goku: “I don’t wanna take any damage from you and have it become Majin Boo’s energy…So I’m gonna end this quickly, at maximum power.”
Vegeta: “I’m looking forward to this…Show me the fruits of your training in the afterlife. *Goku transforms into Super Saiyan 2* Just as I’d expect. Your power is greater than Gohan’s was back then!”
Son Gohan: 60,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 3,000,000,000
--Super Saiyan 2: 6,000,000,000
It is unclear whether or not Gohan was a Super Saiyan 2 when fighting Dabura. In the manga, Gohan didn’t display any attributes of the Super Saiyan 2 form, however, Goku states that Dabura is probably about as strong as Cell. If Gohan was a Super Saiyan, that wouldn’t make a lot of sense, as Cell powered up even further when fighting Super Saiyan 2 Gohan. The anime is a little more clear on the matter in that it provides extra dialogue implying Gohan was going all out. What’s more, Gohan definitely looked like a Super Saiyan 2 in the anime.
Chapter: 450 (DBZ 256), P2.5, P3.1-4
Context: after Kaioshin again warns against unleashing Boo
Vegeta: “Hmph…The way things are going, this ‘Majin Boo’ guy isn’t going to be anything special, is he? Just like that ‘Dabra’ jerk…[ ] I’m saying that this ‘Dabra’ guy doesn’t seem as bad as you two feared. Looking at his attacks and movement outside earlier, it seems that if we just watch out for his spit, then we should manage something. I can’t call Kibito anything but a bumbler for getting done-in like that…”
Kaioshin: “…Is-is that true, Son Goku?...”
Goku: “Yeah…Well, even if that wasn’t him at full force…I think that before he would have been a frightening opponent, but…7 years ago there was a guy called ‘Cell’…[Dabura]’s probably about as strong as him…”
Episode: 228
Gohan: “What on earth could his intention be?”
Vegeta: “It’s you whose intention I want to know! How could you fail to take down a guy of his level?! If you were even a paltry member of our fighting race, once you started a fight, you’d make sure to take your opponent’s last breath from them!! You’re all too soft!! Everyone of you, fighting behind the mask of justice--it disgusts me! It’s power that commands the fight! The strong are the only ones who survive, while the weak die! Power is everything!”
Gohan: “But--”
Vegeta: “Take a look at Piccolo and them! It’s only because they were weak that they were turned to stone! Hmph! They’re a disgrace!”
Gohan: “That’s right! If i’d only defeated Dabura, Piccolo-san and Kuririn-san would have been turned to normal…”
Goku: “Let it stand at that, Vegeta. Gohan did everything he could do, after all.”
Babbidi: 2
Pui Pui(Pocus): 144,000
Pui Pui was easily beaten by Vegeta, so it’s hard to say how strong he is. Since he thinks being able to move freely in 10 times gravity is impressive, I imagine he isn’t very strong.
Yakon: 80,000,000
-Light Absorbed: 1,200,000,000
Yakon seemed to be around as strong as base goku, perhaps a little weaker. Bobbidi notes that Yakon has 800 Kiris in comparison to Goku’s 3000 Kiris, according to Bobbidi’s energy measuring device. It should be noted, however, that 800 and 3,000 are numbers that are often used to symbolize an “enormous amount” in Japan, so I choose not to take these numbers at face value. That said, Bobbidi’s energy measuring device seems to cap at 3,000, so Super Saiyan Goku’s actually Kiri reading might be much higher than 3,000.
Chapter: 451 (DBZ 257), P3.1
Context: after Babidi measures Super Saiyan Goku's energy as 3,000 kiri
Babidi: "...Is this measuring device malfunctioning...? But if he really is 3,000 kiri... Then Yakon can't win against him... Yakon's energy is 800 kiri..."
Dabura: 3,000,000,000
-Full Power: 6,000,000,000
Dabura’s power is dependent on whether or not Gohan was a Super Saiyan 2. Goku notes that Dabura is stronger than he originally thought because of his use of magic.
Chapter: 455 (DBZ 261), P6.1-2
Context: as Dabura fights Gohan
Goku: “Magic, huh? He’s way stronger than I thought, ain’t he?”
Vegeta: “Hmph…Even so, he’s not an opponent [he? we?] can’t win against. [Gohan]’s so pathetic…So much so that he was stronger as a brat…”
Goku: “He really did slack off!”
Majin Boo is Resurrected
Demon Prince Vegeta: 9,000,000,000
-Final Atonement: 18,000,000,000
Majin Boo: 12,000,000,000
-Angry: 18,000,000,000
-Enraged: 36,000,000,000
It should be noted that Super Saiyan 2 Gohan’s energy was enough to fuel roughly half the energy required to revive Boo. As such, I think that Boo’s initial maximum is twice Super Saiyan 2 Gohan’s. The angrier Boo gets, the more power he has access to. When his anger reaches its limit, Boo splits.
Son Goku: 90,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 4,500,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 9,000,000,000
--Super Saiyan 3: 36,000,000,000
Goku ends up buying time for Trunks to find the Dragon Radar. Since Vegeta couldn’t beat Boo, Goku opts to use Super Saiyan 3. His power far surpasses Boo’s, but as the fight progresses, Boo’s power increases.
Son Goten: 30,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 1,500,000,000
Trunks: 35,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 1,750,000,000
Chapter: 468 (DBZ 274), P12.7
Piccolo: “These two are our only hope…! Th-though it’s a faint hope…”
When Goten and Trunks power up for Goku, Piccolo is completely taken back by how powerful they are, giving further credence to the notion that Goten and Trunks are much stronger than a lot of people think
Gotenks: 600,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 30,000,000,000
Goku states that Gotenks should be stronger than he is, however, it is revealed later that Goku was holding back during his battle with Boo, so it’s hard to say how Gotenks compares to Goku’s maximum. I personally don’t think he’s as strong.
Chapter: 476 (DBZ 282), P9.3
Piccolo: “If that bastard felt like it, he could wipe out the entire Earth, up here included, in the blink of an eye…!”
Goku: “It’s alright, I don’t think he’ll take out the Earth. After all, I told him that in 2 days, someone stronger than me would fight him, and he seemed happy…”
Chapter: 509 (DBZ 315), P11.4-6
Context: as Goku prepares to fight Boo
Goku: “Alrii~~iight. I’d better go all out right from the start…! If we get done in, then the entire universe will go ‘poof’…”
Vegeta: “Let me see this ‘Super Saiyan 3’ thing with my own eyes…”
Goku: “Is that alright? You just might not get your turn…I can say this now, but the truth is that with that fat Boo, I would have been able to defeat him at the time with Super Saiyan 3…However, I wanted the young guys to manage something…For the Earth’s sake too…”
After Super Saiyan Gotenks is formed for the first time, Piccolo states that Gotenks’s Ki is incredible. At no point does Piccolo second guess Goku’s predictions about Gotenks’s strength.
Chapter: 482 (DBZ 288), P7.2-3
Context: after Super Saiyan Gotenks forms for the first time
Piccolo: “…Yeah…Your ki really is absolutely incredible, but how about your movement?...Show me a little.”
Gotenks: “Is that alright? If I show you here, the house might break. I’ll do it on the ground.”
After Evil Boo is formed, it is implied that Gotenks could have taken the fat Majin Boo.
Chapter: 486 (DBZ 292), P2.2-6
Context: after Boo transforms into evil Boo
Piccolo: “…Have you noticed? …This change in Majin Boo’s ki…[ ] …He’s changed…All due to some idiotic Earthlings…He’s become pure evil, and his body has become more suited toward battle…Th-this…this…”
Kuririn: “Wha…What?...D-don’t tell me you’re saying this is bad!? …It’s al-alright! We’ve got the squirts’ Fusion! Goku said that right? That Fusion was the strongest…!”
Dende: “…”
Piccolo: “…That’d be nice, but…”
Chapter: 487 (DBZ 293), P13.5
Context: as Piccolo plans on having Goten and Trunks train in the Room of Spirit and Time
Piccolo: “Can’t you tell…?! As they are now, even if they perform Fusion they can’t win, no doubt about it…! Tell them that if they don’t want to die while they’re still just little brats, then they should train as much as they can…!”
Good Boo: 12,000,000,000
Pure Evil Boo: 24,000,000,000
The Mightiest Warrior!!
Son Goten: 45,000,000
Trunks: 45,000,000
Goten and Trunks have gotten significantly stronger thanks to training in the ROSAT.
Gotenks: 900,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 45,000,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 90,000,000,000
-Super Saiyan 3: 360,000,000,000
Gotenks’s power increased substantially after training in the ROSAT. I think that the build up Gotenks received was highly exaggerated though. Still, the Daizenshuu 7 states that Gotenks surpassed Majin Vegeta after training in the ROSAT. Since he was already stronger as a Super Saiyan prior to training in the ROSAT, one can only assume Gotenks’s base battle power is greater than Majin Vegeta’s. Seeing as how Gotenks can now turn Super Saiyan after fusing, he should be able to power up his base state with Super Saiyan energy like Goku did during the Ano Yo-Ichi Budokai
Chapter: 489 (DBZ 295), P3.5
Context: Trunks doesn't like the idea of fighting Boo as a Super Saiyan 3 from the start
Trunks: "I think...that we've already progressed so much that even in a regular state Fusion, we'll be about equal with Majin Boo..."
Chapter: 489 (DBZ 295), P11.5
Context: seeing Gotenks after he'd trained in the Room of Spirit and Time
Piccolo: "He-he really is different...! He really has greatly powered up...! Th-this just might...!"
Chapter: 489 (DBZ 295), P12.4-7
Context: Gotenks attacks Boo, to no effect
Boo: "May I attack now?"
Gotenks: "...Wa-wait a little bit...*thinking* ...Tha-that's strange...That should have effected him a decent amount, but...Hahha~~an! He's just pretending it didn't hurt him..."
Piccolo: "...Th-this may be hopeless..."
Super Boo: 360,000,000,000
-Gotenks Absorbed: 721,500,000,000
-Piccolo Absorbed: 361,500,000,000
-Gohan Absorbed: 961,590,000,000
Evil Boo’s power is comparable to that of Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks. The Kaioshin Boo has absorbed seem to affect Boo’s power in strange ways. When Pure Evil Boo absorbed Good Boo, his power skyrocketed, much like it did when Pure Boo absorbed South Kaioshin. It should also be noted that Evil Boo’s power is far greater than Super Saiyan 3 Goku’s.
Chapter: 507 (DBZ 313), P12.4-5
Context: after Goku and Vegeta revert Boo back to regular evil Boo
Goku: “Hehhe~~eh! With this, Boo’s power should have fallen significantly! We’re almost there! See, see: the size of his ki is completely different than before!”
Vegeta: “Alright! Let’s blast out of here and escape!”
Goku: “Wait! Even though Boo has returned to normal a whole lot, we’re still simply no match for his strength! If we go outside like this, we’ll definitely be done in…!”
Ultimate Gohan: 600,000,000,000
Chapter: 498 (DBZ 304), P1.3, P2.4
Context: after Gohan beats up on Boo
Gohan: “You can’t win…”
[ ]
Gohan: “I see…So you tried testing your power just to be sure, and I really was above you…That’s too bad, Majin Boo.”
Tenshinhan: 720,000
Kibitoshin: 6,000,000,000
Chapter: 501 (DBZ 307), P11.2-4
Context: right after Kaioshin and Kibito merge
Kaioshin: “Oooh! Am-amazing! This is amazing power! Hahaah! [ ] Goku! I can fight too like this! I’ll go with you!”
Elder Kaioshin: “Don’t get carried away! No matter how strong you’ve become, you were never anything special. I doubt you could fight Boo head-on; you’d just end up getting absorbed. So stay here.”
Son Goku: 90,000,000
Vegeta: 90,000,000
Vegetto: 900,000,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 45,000,000,000,000
Elder Kaioshin notes that Vegetto is abnormally powerful.
Chapter: 504 (DBZ 310), P9.2-3
Context: as Vegetto beats up on Gohan-absorbed Boo
Kaioshin-Kibito: “H-he’s strong!!! Majin Boo there is helpless!!! To think that merging with the Potara would be this incredible…!!”
Elder Kaioshin: “Idiot, it’s because it was those two that they were able to go so far. Two of the top 3 masters in both the living world and afterlife have merged, after all. What’s more, two rivals have joined together. That’s definitely strongest.”
The anime shows base Vegetto going toe to toe with Evil Boo(Gohan Absorbed), so Vegetto should probably be around as strong as Boo.
The Orginal Boo!?
Pure(Kid) Boo: 36,000,000,000
Chapter: 507 (DBZ 313), P13.5
Context: as evil Boo reverts to his South Kaioshin form
Goku: “H-hey…Vegeta…His ki is increasing, ain’t it…!?”
Chapter: 508 (DBZ 314), P3.4-6
Context: after Boo reverts to his pure form
Goku: “…”
Vegeta: “……Heh…Heheheh…Look! He’s shrunk down quite a bit!”
Goku: “We did it! This way, we might be able to manage something.”
Bibbidi: 2
Son Goku: 90,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 9,000,000,000
-Super Saiyan 3: 36,000,000,000
Vegeta: 90,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 9,000,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2 (Enraged): 11,250,000,000
Mr. Satan: 7.8
Mr. Boo: 12,000,000,000
Super Genki Dama: 50,000,000,000
Chapter: 516 (DBZ 322), P8.5-6
Context: people on Namek and in the afterlife watch Boo stall the Genki-Dama
Elder Kaioshin: “Th-this is bad. Ma-maybe that ‘Genki-Dama’ thing st-still doesn’t have enough power…”
Dende: “Th-that can’t be…! We-we already used our ki…”
Enma Daio: “Ha-hang in there, Son Goku…! Th-that Genki-Dama has power from us here in the afterlife in it too…!”
Regarding the strength of the Genki Dama, Goku notes that Vegeta’s energy wasn’t fully restored upon being revived. One can assume the same applies to Gohan and the others, which is why their energy alone wasn’t enough to destroy Boo.
Chapter: 515 (DBZ 321), P5.3
Context: after Vegeta says he’ll hold off Boo again, so Goku can prepare the Genki-Dama
Goku: “You’ll sta-stall for time?…Yo-you’ve just been restored to life. Your ki still ain’t full, is it?!”
The 28th Tenkaichi Budokai
Son Goku: ???
Vegeta: ???
10 years have passed with no real way of discerning how strong Goku and Vegeta have gotten over the years. Probably superior Super Saiyan 3.
Trunks: 90,000,000
Goten: 90,000,000
Chapter: 519 (DBZ 325), P1.3
Goten: “Th-that can’t be! How can I go up against Boo right in the first round?!”
Goku: “It’s only a problem because you keep slacking off in your training.”
Pan: 9,000,000
Chapter: 518 (DBZ 324), P4.1
Goku: “She won’t be able to win the tournament, I suppose, but she should definitely be able to go pretty far. Right now, Pan is the one in our family with the most guts!”
Pan: “Yeah!”
Mr. Satan: 7
Mr. Boo: 12,000,000,000
Oob: 36,000,000,000
Since Oob is the reincarnation of Pure Boo, his potential should be equal to Pure Boo’s. Goku notes that Oob may be stronger than even Good Boo, so it’s possible that Oob is already as strong as Pure Boo. Goku states later than he was incredible as he expected, so it’s likely he is as strong as Pure Boo when his anger is pushed to its limit.
Chapter: 518 (DBZ 324), P6.5
Goku: “…But someone besides us and Boo might win.”
Satan: “Hahhahhah, now really! There’s no way that could happen, right?”
Chapter: 519 (DBZ 325), P12.2-5
Context: Oob is surprised by Goku’s Bukujutsu
Goku: “Oh, I see. You still don’t even know how to fly, huh? …I guess there ain’t no helping it. You haven’t had no teacher, and you probably never even considered things like that. Sorry I bad-mouthed you before. Please forgive me. I just wanted to know your true ability. You’re exactly the person I thought you were. As amazin’ as I expected. But you don’t know how to use your power. This is the first time you’ve fought like this, right? I've got it! From now on I'll live with you at your house and teach you!”
The End[/spoiler]
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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Your list looks pretty good to me. While there are a few things here and there that I personally don't agree with, there's very little here that I think is outright wrong. I do question Grade 3 Trunks being so close to Perfect Cell, though. Cell says that Trunks easily surpasses him in raw power, but by your list there's barely any difference. My advice would be to either bump Cell down a little or bump the Grade 3 power boost up. One could argue that since Grade 3 puts such heavy emphasis on raw power and nothing else, it's actually a smidge stronger than Super Saiyan 2. Something like 110~115x.Chickenchaser wrote:Eem... so this is my Battle Powers for dragonball Z Feel Free to critique.
The only other critique I have is in your formating. I like that you included quotations to back up your numbers, but it's a little bit hard to read. Maybe you could put them in italics or something to differentiate them from your actual numbers. Though, to be honest, this is more of a nitpick than anything else.
My Official Unofficial Battle Power list (in-progress: updated 11/8/2022—FREEZA ARC COMPLETED)
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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Nappa is too high and too low. I doubt his power at the Z Fighters was 4k, since he struggled to deflect Gohan's Masenko (Which should be higher than Piccolo) and his full power can keep up with Goku pretty well after he calmed down.Chickenchaser wrote:Eem... so this is my Battle Powers for dragonball Z Feel Free to critique.
Dragonball Z Sagas
Saiyan Arc
[spoiler]Goku's Older Brother!?
Raditz: 1,500
-Initial: 1,200
Farmer: 5
Son Goku: 334
-W/o Weights: 416
-Kamehameha: 924
Piccolo: 322
-W/o Weights: 408
--Makankosappo: 1,330 - 1,480
Son Gohan: 1
-Upset: 710
--Enraged: 1,307
Kame-sennin: 139
Kuririn: 206
Umigame: 0.001
Yamcha: 177
Tenshinhan: 250
Chaozu: 122
Yajirobe: 185
Enma Daio: 2,000
Kaio: 3,500
The Saiyans Finally Arrive
Piccolo: 1,220
-Full Power: 3,500
Son Gohan: 981
-Enraged: 2,800
-Zenkai: 1,250
--Oozaru (Injured): 4,500
Yamcha: 1,480
Tenshinhan: 1,830
Chaozu: 610
Yajirobe: 970
Saibaimen: 1,200
Nappa: 4,000
-Full Power: 4,800
Number 4,000 is taken from Daizenshuu 7 and I'm put Nappa Full Power Lower than 5,000 but slighty higer than 4,000, because he is Power Up.
Son Goku: 8,000
-Suppressed: 5,000
--Kaio-ken: 16,000
-Kaio-ken x3: 24,000
-Kaio-ken x4: 32,000
Vegeta: 18,000
-Fatigued: 12,000
--Oozaru (Post Powerball): 80,000
-Injured: 2,000
Genki Dama: 130,000
-Weakened: 6,500[/spoiler]
Freeza Arc
[spoiler]Let's Go Namek!!
Kuririn: 1,800
-Potential Unlocked: 7,000
Son Gohan: 1,500
-Potential Unlocked: 8,000
Vegeta: 24,000
-Zenkai: 30,000
Chapter: 249 (DBZ 55), P3.2-6, P4.1-2
Context: Freeza, Zarbon and Dodoria discuss Vegeta's battle power as he powers up against Kui. Zarbon's scouter had exploded.
Zarbon: "I... I think it's a malfunction, but... My scouter was set on Vegeta, and as the figures surpassed twe... 22,000..."
Dodoria: "It's definitely a malfunction! Your scouter's an old model, after all. I'll check out the correct figure off mine..."
Zarbon: "What's the figure...?"
Dodoria: "Th... that's impossible... Is my new model malfunctioning too...?! It's risen to up to twe... 24,000... !!"
Zarbon: "24,000...?! Are you saying it's higher than o... our own battle powers...?!"
Dodoria: "Th... this can't be...!! H... his battle power was barely 18,000..."
Freeza: "That shouldn't be a surprise. It's all because Vegeta's been ceaselessly fighting on the front lines. Perhaps he's caught on to something new on Earth. It's merely 24,000. That's a figure that you two would be more than able to win against if you fought together, is it not? Fufufu..."
Chapter: 275 (DBZ 81), P4.2
Context: Vegeta powers up to fight Reacoom.
Jheese: "Hey, hey, Vegeta's battle power has risen up close to 30,000!"
Kui: 18,000
Namekian Warriors: 3,000
-Suppressed: 1,000
Dodoria: 22,000
Zarbon: 23,000
-Transformed: 28,000
The Ginyu Force!
Son Gohan: 14,000
-Zenkai: 26,000
Kuririn: 13,000
-Potential Increasing: 23,000+
Vegeta: 30,000
-Zenkai: 120,000
I'm giving Vegeta (After Reacoom fight) Battle power of 120,000 because i think 250,000 is too high.
Chapter: 289 (DBZ 95), P6.1-2
Context: after Jheese freaks out over Vegeta's new battle power
Vegeta: “That’s right…I’ve surpassed Saiyan limits, and my strength is still increasing more and more…The truth is that I’ve realized it too…That this extension of my power isn’t merely what you’d call giftedness…In other words…I’m steadily drawing near…to becoming a Super Saiyan!”
Gurd: 5,000
Chapter: 273 (DBZ 79), P2.6
Kuririn: “Th…that one…He’s the only one who’s nothing special…Wh-what’s he doing mixed in with those guys…?!”
Reacoom: 40,000
Jheese: 40,000
Butta: 40,000
These 3 are noted to be more or less on par with one another. Ginyu also notes that a person with a battle power of 60,000 should easily be able to dispatch of these 3.
Chapter: 281 (DBZ 87), P11.1
Context: Gohan doesn't think Jheese and Burta are that strong
Kuririn: "Th...that shouldn't be... Th...those guys have about the same amount of ki as th...that Reacoom guy, and not even Vegeta could do anything against him...But Goku's too strong, so those guys don't look like anything special..."
Gohan: "I... I suppose... But father's ki is a lot smaller than theirs..."
Chapter: 283 (DBZ 89), P11.1-3
Ginyu: "In my estimation, his ability looks like it's about 60,000."
Jheese: "Six... 60,000!? H-he's a Saiyan!! Whoever heard of a Saiyan at 60,000...?!!"
Ginyu: “It’s not impossible. He could be like us, a super-gifted warrior, born with a mutation…Looks like this will be an unprecedentedly entertaining battle…I never thought the time would come for me to show my true power.”
Son Goku: 90,000
-Suppressed: 5,000
-Ginyu Estimate: 60,000
--Kaio-ken: 180,000
Chapter: 285 (DBZ 91), P1.2-3, P2.2
Context: as Goku continues to use the Kaio-ken
Ginyu: "Twe... 120,000... 130,000... 140,000... It's sti... sti... still rising... !!!! It... it can't be... 160,000... "Eigh... 180,000...?! Un...unbelievable...Th-this is your true power...?!!"
Captain Ginyu: 120,000
-Goku's Body: 23,000+
Chapter: 285 (DBZ 91), P3.1
Jheese: "Even Ca... Captain Ginyu's highest figure is 120,000..."
Chapter: 288 (DBZ 94), P13.2-4
Context: Ginyu powers up in Goku’s body
Ginyu: "Guhahahahaha...!!!! Jheese!! How much is my battle power?!"
Jheese: ".....Twe... 23,000...."
Ginyu: “Twe…23,000…only 23,000…!?”
Nail: 42,000
Chapter: 286 (DBZ 92), P5.1-2
Context: Nail powers up for Freeza
Freeza: "Hoh! This is incredible! Your battle power has risen to 42,000. I see, you truly do seem to be completely different than all the Namekians up to now. I'm surprised...This is a magnificent battle power! I can see why you're called a Warrior-type. It's enough to make me want you for an underling."
Freeza (50%): 265,000
Chapter: 286 (DBZ 92), P5.4
Freeza: "My battle power is 530,000. But of course, I don't intend to fight you at full power, so you can relax..."
The Legendary Super Saiyan
Vegeta: 480,000
-Zenkai: 2,400,000
Kuririn: 75,000
Son Gohan: 200,000
-Enraged: 800,000
--Zenkai: 400,000
-Enraged: 1,600,000
Chapter: 299 (DBZ 105), P13.1
Context: after Gohan is healed by Dende
Vegeta: “Heh…Just as you’d expect of someone with Saiyan blood, after reviving his battle power has greatly risen…A-alright! Luck is turning our way just a little bit…
Freeza: 530,000
-First Transformation: 1,060,000
--Full Power: 1,200,000
-Second Transformation: 1,800,000
--Final Form: 3,000,000
-50%: 60,000,000
-100%: 120,000,000
Freeza’s second form is stated to have a battle power that exceeds 1 million. After powering up, he is able to gain the upper hand on Piccolo. After Piccolo removes his weighted clothing, Freeza ascends to his third form, which surpasses Piccolo’s full power. After an angry Gohan pressures Freez’s third form, Freeza ascends to his final form, and easily defeats a renewed Vegeta, but has a hard time against a renewed Goku. After warming up for a bit, Freeza decides to showcase 50% of his power, and this 60 million figure is taken from the Daizenshuu 7. After Goku turns into a Super Saiyan, Freeza decides to go all out. His 120 million figure is also taken from the Daizenshuu 7.
Piccolo(W/ weights): 56,250
-Merged With Nail: 1,125,000
-W/o Weights: 1,350,000
Piccolo has gotten a lot stronger after training on Kaio’s planet. Nail even seems to imply that Piccolo is stronger than he is. After merging with Nail, he is able to go toe to toe with Freeza in his second form.
Chapter: 295 (DBZ 101), P1.4, P2.1-5, P3.1
Nail: “I-I’m astonished…I don’t know what kind of training you’ve done, but you’ve acquired unbelievable power…Still, it’s unfortunate…If you had only returned to the original, single Namekian you were, you might have been able to defeat even Freeza…”
Piccolo: “Are you saying that if I merged with God once again, my power would even surpass Freeza!?”
Nail: “Th-that’s right…I was overwhelmingly defeated by Freeza, but I should have a good comprehension of his abilities…[ ] So merge with me…! I’m also the only fighting-type Namekian on this planet…[ ] That’s right…Your power will become many times greater…”
Piccolo: “…You’re not lying, are you?”
Nail: “If you think so, you can just go get killed by Freeza…”
Son Goku: 3,000,000
-Kaio-ken x10: 30,000,000
--Kaio-ken x20: 60,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 150,000,000
Large Genki Dama: 75,000,000
Freeza was unable hold the Large Genki Dama back, so one can assume its power is greater than that of Freeza’s when at half strength.[/spoiler]
Cell Arc
[spoiler]The Mysterious Youth
Mecha Freeza: 160,000,000
-Suppressed: 4,000,000
Freeza is now stronger than he was on Namek thanks to his cybernetic enhancements. Due to his confidence, I assume he’s stronger than Super Saiyan Goku was on Namek.
Chapter: 330 (DBZ 136), P13.3-4
Cold: "The Earthlings don't matter, but the Super Saiyan alone we absolutely must exterminate, by any means. The one who holds the greatest power in the universe must without a doubt be our clan"
Freeza: "We can definitely defeat him if we go at him together, Papa. And I've powered up too, so I think I can probably go alone."
When Yamcha senses Freeza’s power, Gohan states that he can get much stronger. Freeza never seems to power up prior to his death, so I assume he was suppressed while taking on Trunks.
Chapter: 330 (DBZ 136), P9.7
Yamcha: “So this guy called ‘Fr…Freeza’ has such terrible…ab…absurdly large ki…?”
Gohan: “This isn’t it…he gets much, much stronger…!”
King Cold: 100,000,000
Vegeta: 3,200,000
Piccolo(W/ weights): 2,250,000
Son Gohan: 400,000
Kuririn: 100,000
Tenshinhan: 72,000
Yamcha: 48,000
Future Trunks: 3,600,000
-Super Saiyan: 180,000,000
--Super Saiyan (Holding Back Against Goku): 90,000,000
Since Trunks took out a stronger Freeza, one can assume Trunks is stronger than Goku was on Namek. Granted, Freeza seemed to be suppressed even up to his death, but Trunks was confident he could take out Freeza at full power.
Chapter: 331 (DBZ 137), P9.1
Context: challenging Freeza and Cold
Trunks: “Come at me at full power right from the start. I’m not soft like Son Goku…”
Son Goku: 4,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 200,000,000
After battle with freeza goku's got a zenkai (1.33x).
Chapter: 334 (DBZ 140), P13.3-5
Context: after Trunks and Goku fight
Trunks: “As expected, the rumors were true. No, you’re even greater…This was the sword that cut even Freeza…”
Goku: “You weren’t serious, after all.”
The Artificial Humans Are Released
Son Goku: 6,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 300,000,000
--Super Saiyan (Heart Virus): 100,000,000-
Piccolo: 225,000,000
-W/ weights: 187,500,000
--Merged With Kami: 375,000,000
-W/o weights: 450,000,000
Piccolo seems to have gotten a substantial boost by training with Super Saiyan Goku. When Piccolo was fighting Dr. Gero, Kuririn notes that Piccolo’s power has become comparable to a Super Saiyan.
Chapter: 346 (DBZ 152), P12.4
Kuririn: “He’s st-strong…! What kind of training did Piccolo do…And he’s not even a Su-Super Saiyan…”
After merging with God, Piccolo becomes twice as strong, since he’s reunited with his other half.
Son Gohan: 3,000,000
Kuririn: 1,000,000
Tenshinhan: 360,000
Yamcha: 240,000
Vegeta: 6,400,000
-Super Saiyan: 320,000,000
Chapter: 345 (DBZ 151), P6.1-2
Context: after Vegeta scares No.20 away with a bluff
Piccolo: "He really had lost a lot of stamina...when he confirmed that the Artificial Humans sucked out energy with the palms of their hands...He ought to have lost if he had fought that No.20 guy...But he talked as if he still had something up his sleeve...Vegeta really is a fighting genius...He might have sur-surpassed...Goku..."
Trunks: 4,800,000
-Super Saiyan: 240,000,000
Android No. 19: 75,000,000
-Energy Absorbed: 225,000,000
Chapter: 341 (DBZ 147), P14.6
Context: after No.19 absorbs Goku’s attack
No.20: “Alright! No.19’s maximum power rating has greatly increased from what it was before! In contrast, Son Goku’s energy has fallen remarkably…!”
Android No.20: 100,000,000
-Energy Absorbed: 150,000,000
Chapter: 340 (DBZ 146), P14.1
Context: after Goku transforms into a Super Saiyan
No.20: “However, this isn’t anything great enough to give us reason to fear. It’s still within a level which even No.19 is more than capable of defeating, and naturally that goes for myself as well…”
Android No.18: 400,000,000
Chapter: 353 (DBZ 159), P10.2-4, P11.1
Context: after Vegeta continues to fight No.18
Vegeta: “This is really starting to annoy me. You act as if nothing’s happened…”
No.18: “I’m surprised. To think that a flesh-and-blood human could be so good, even if you are an alien. Is this man called ‘Son Goku’ even stronger?”
Vegeta: “Don’t kid yourself. He may have temporarily slipped by me, but now things have returned to normal and I should be on top again.”
No.18: “What? So you’re nothing special. Either of you.”
Chapter: 367 (DBZ 173), title page
Text box: “Her power is more suppressed than No.17's, but in the end she too is a failure who doesn't listen to orders.”
Android No.17: 450,000,000
Based on Piccolo’s battle with No. 17, it would appear that No. 17 is equal to Piccolo after he’s merged with God.
Cell: 360,000,000
Cell is strong enough to give a weighted Piccolo some trouble. Because of that, we can at least be sure he’s weaker than No. 17 at this point in the story.
Cell is Complete!
Piccolo: 450,000,000
Android No.17: 450,000,000
Android No.18: 400,000,000
Cell: 550,000,000
-Second Form: 800,000,000
--Full Power: 1,000,000,000
-Perfect Form (Suppressed): 1,600,000,000
Cell has grown stronger by absorbing countless Earthlings. His power is equal to that of No. 16’s.
Chapter: 371 (DBZ 177), P6.4
Context: before No.16 goes to fight first form Cell
No.16: “According to my calculations, my power is about equal to Cell’s.”
After absorbing No. 17, Cell add’s his power to his own. Cell is suppressed when Vegeta shows up. Even after powering up, he’s still no match for Vegeta, however.
Chapter: 378 (DBZ 184), P7.3, P8.1
Context: after Vegeta beats up Cell more
Cell: “Seems you want me to get serious…”
Vegeta: “I thought you already were serious…”
Chapter: 378 (DBZ 184), P11.2, P11.4
Context: After Cell unleashes his full power
Vegeta: “Oh, your battle power really flew up there…But so what?”
Trunks: “…This is father’s victory.”
After absorbing No. 18, Cell’s power goes through a drastic change, being greater than the sum of his parts. Having both Artificial Humans absorbed likely triggered a reaction within Cell’s body, granting him a substantial power boost. He is suppressed when facing both Vegeta and Trunks, as it is revealed later that he can power up even further during the Cell Games.
Android No.16: 550,000,000
Tenshinhan: 360,000
-Shin Kikoho!: 720,000,000
Since Tenshinhan was able to keep Cell down, I’m pretty much forced to assume the Shin Kikoho’s power level is massive.
Vegeta: 18,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 900,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2nd Grade: 1,350,000,000
Trunks seems to imply that Super Saiyan Vegeta is already stronger than a suppressed Second Form Cell. I would assume he’s still inferior to Cell’s full power in his second form. After ascending to the second grade, his power eclipses Cell’s.
Chapter: 377 (DBZ 183), P3.1-2
Context: as Vegeta is about to fight second form Cell
Trunks: “Father intends to ‘become’ that right off the bat…! [Become] that…!”
Future Trunks: 17,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 850,000,000
--Super Saiyan 2nd Grade: 1,275,000,000
-Super Saiyan 3rd Grade: 1,700,000,000
Chapter: 379 (DBZ 185), P11.4
Context: Vegeta talks to second form Cell
Vegeta: “Heh. I’ll tell you something that will really shock you! There’s a guy named Trunks over there. He’s not as powerful as me, but we’re pretty close…!”
Cell also notes that Trunks’s power in his grade 3 form is superior to that of his in his suppressed state.
Chapter: 387 (DBZ 193), P1.3, P2.1-3
Context: as Trunks uses his Super Saiyan Grade III power
Trunks: “What you’re about to see now…is my true power!!!”
Cell: “I see…It truly is magnificent power…You easily surpass me…But you can’t win against me like that…Absolutely not…”
Super Saiyan Goku(Suppressed): 600,000,000
-Half Strength: 1,500,000,000
Super Saiyan Gohan(Suppressed): 700,000,000
Goku and Gohan in their suppressed states are clearly weaker than Vegeta and Trunks, since neither have realized they have been surpassed. Half of Goku’s strength was enough to surpass that of Vegeta’s grade 2 form, seeing as how Vegeta admitted is inferiority without even knowing that was only half of Goku’s power.
Chapter: 391 (DBZ 197), P10.4-5
Context: After powering up and almost destroying Karin’s tower…
Goku: “That just now was about half power. What do you think?”
Karin: “Half power…?! What a fearsome guy you are…How strong will you become before you’re satisfied…?!”
Chapter: 391 (DBZ 197), P13.1-2
Context: After sensing half of Full Power Super Saiyan Goku’s max power from a distance.
Vegeta (to self): “Damn you, Kakarot… It’s always like this… He’s always a step ahead of me…! It drives me crazy…Just when I think I’ve caught up, he widens the lead again…”
Cell Games
Vegeta: 36,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 1,800,000,000
We can be sure that Vegeta has surpassed the strength Goku displayed for Karin, since Vegeta was initially confident he was going to win the Cell Games.
Chapter: 395 (DBZ 201), P13.5
Context: after Goku says he’ll fight first Cell first
Vegeta: “Do what you want. Either way, I’ll be the one to finish this…”
Trunks: 35,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 1,750,000,000
Piccolo: 1,200,000,000
-W/ weights: 1,000,000,000
Chapter: 392 (DBZ 198), P13.1-5
Goku: “Hey… Piccolo! Did you go into the Room of Spirit and Time?”
Piccolo: “Indeed.”
Goku: “I can tell! You’ve risen to an entirely different level.”
Piccolo: “…Why don’t you just be frank with me? I’ve grown stronger, but even so, it won’t do any good against Cell…”
Goku: “…Yeah, it won’t do any good.”
Kuririn: 1,000,000
Tenshinhan: 360,000
Yamcha: 240,000
Mr. Satan: 8
Super Saiyan Goku: 3,000,000,000
-Half Strength: 1,500,000,000
Super Saiyan Gohan: 3,500,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2(Enraged): 8,750,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 7,000,000,000
Chapter: 402 (DBZ 208), P6.5, P7.1-6
Context: after Goku asks Gohan to be the next one to fight Cell
Piccolo: “Don’t talk crazy, Goku! There’s no way he’d be able to fight! It’s true that he’s raised his abilities so much that he’s unrecognizable, but his opponent is Cell, who even you were no match for!”
Goku: “Piccolo, Gohan has more unbelievable power than we think. Think about it. He’s fought the same as everyone since he was a little squirt…When I was about his age, I wasn’t anything special.”
Kuririn: “B-but even if he’s become a Super Saiyan…Th-this is so quick…”
Goku: “In the Room of Spirit and Time, the dormant power sealed away deep, deep inside him began to be released. Why don’t we try asking him? How about it, Gohan? Did you think that dad and Cell’s fight just now was too incredible and you couldn’t keep up?”
Gohan: “N-no, I didn’t think so…But neither of you were fighting all-out, right…!?”
Goku: “I don’t know about Cell, but I was going all-out. So in other words, to you it felt like I was holding back?”
Chapter: 404 (DBZ 210), P2.3-4
Context: after Gohan powers up
Vegeta: “That brat…How did he get such a gigantic battle power?…This is impossible…!”
Cell: “Looks like what Son Goku said wasn’t a complete bluff…But it seems he overstated things a little when he said you could defeat me…”
Perfect Cell: 4,800,000,000
-Suppressed: 3,200,000,000
--Super Perfect Form: 7,200,000,000
Cell Junior(s): 2,000,000,000
Chapter: 407 (DBZ 213), P5.3
Context: as the Cell Juniors beat everyone up
Cell (to Gohan): “If you don’t show your true worth soon, things will go past the point of no return. Look closely. Vegeta or Trunks are barely fighting evenly…Even Son Goku is in trouble, having lost his stamina…”[/spoiler]
Boo Arc
[spoiler]Great Saiyaman!
Son Gohan: ~60,000,000
-Super Saiyan: ~3,000,000,000
Chapter: 444 (DBZ 250), P7.1-4
Gohan: “Well, I’ve become a Super Saiyan. Now what? Is it alright if I fight like this?”
Kibito: “…Wh-what tremendous power…I can’t believe he’s a being of the lower world!”
Vegeta: “…Hmph…That bastard, he was far, far better when he killed Cell. It’s because he slacked off in his training during peacetime…”
Kaioshin: “…No, even so this is magnificent energy, more so than I imagined…I wonder if I’ll be able to stop this power…”
Goku: “…Stop it?”
Videl: ~9
Chapter: 424 (DBZ 230), P14.2
Context: as Videl easily beats up the big robber
Gohan: "Heh~~This is surprising! She really is pretty strong...She might just be stronger than Mister Satan."
Son Goten: ~30,000,000
-Super Saiyan: ~1,500,000,000
Trunks: ~35,000,000
-Super Saiyan: ~1,750,000,000
I feel a lot of people greatly underestimate what Goten and Trunks are capable of. I’ll go into greater detail regarding their strength in the 25th Tenkaichi Budokai section, but for now, Gohan states that he may be outstripped by Goten if he’s not careful. What’s more, Gohan states that Goten would make a good sparring partner, and during their sparring sessions, Goten was able to pressure Gohan. After Trunks is able to graze Vegeta, Vegeta asks Trunks who’s stronger between the two, and Trunks says he’s stronger. Goten also admits as much.
Chapter: 427 (DBZ 233), P12.3-6
Context: after Gohan and Goten spar a little bit
Gohan: “You’re very gifted at grappling too, Goten! You really surprised me! I hadn’t known you were that good! If you train well, maybe you’ll be able to enter the Tenkaichi Budoukai too!”
Goten: “Really!? But Trunks is even stronger than me. We play-fight together!”
Gohan: “Really!? That’s how you guys have been playing?...*thinking* If I’m not careful, I’ll be outstripped…by these little squirts…”
Chapter: 429 (DBZ 235), P8.7
Context: after Vegeta asks Trunks if he's stronger than Goten
Trunks: "I'm just a little bit stronger. Goten's 1 year young, and he still can't fly."
Vegeta: ~72,000,000
-Super Saiyan: ~3,600,000,000
Chapter: 426 (DBZ 232), P4.2-3
Context: Vegeta talks to Gohan
Vegeta: “At that time there was a large gap between our powers…But what about now? While you’ve been enjoying peace, I’ve continued to train.”
The 25th Tenkaichi Budokai
Son Gohan: 60,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 3,000,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2 : 6,000,000,000
Videl: 9
Son Goten: 30,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 1,500,000,000
Trunks: 35,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 1,750,000,000
During the battle between No. 18 and Goten and Trunks disguised as Mighty Mask, Super Saiyan Trunks fires a Kiai cannon at No. 18. Trunks states he was holding back when he fired his attack, and No. 18 was completely blown away by how strong his attack was. With all of this in mind we can be sure that a suppressed Super Saiyan Trunks is stronger than No. 18. Movie 11 gives greater credence to that notion.
Chapter: 453 (DBZ 259), P9.2-7
Context: as Trunks and Goten fight No.18 in their Mighty Mask costume
No.18: “…He really is a weird bastard…His arms and legs are extremely small for his body…And he’s so unusually strong…”
*they become Super Saiyans*
No.18: “!!”
Trunks: “Either way, we’re at a disadvantage in this getup, so we’ve got no choice but to settle this with a kiai cannon!”
Goten: “Eh! But will she be alright?...”
Trunks: “Don’t worry, she won’t die if we do it appropriately. She’s No.18…”
Chapter: 453 (DBZ 259), P10.1-2
Context: as Trunks turns Super Saiyan and prepares to fire a ki blast at No.18
No.18: “…I see…Super Saiyan, huh?...I finally know your identity, boys…”
Goten: “Don’t do it at full force!”
Trunks: “I know, I know!”
Chapter: 453 (DBZ 259), P12.4, P13.1
Context: after Trunks’ ki blast explodes
No.18: “Yo-you’ve got to be kidding…That energy bullet had absolutely incredible speed and destructive power…Co-could it be that those squirts have outrageous power?…This is dangerous! I’ve got to settle this fight soon!”
Vegeta: 72,000,000
Son Goku(Suppressed): 75,000,000
Piccolo(W/ weights): 1,500,000,000
Kuririn: 1,000,000
Yamcha: 220,000
Android No.18: 400,000,000
Spopovitch: 26
Yamu: 26
Chapter: 441 (DBZ 247), P12.2-5
Kuririn: “Th-that bastard, he [fired] a ki wave…though it didn’t have that much ki power…!”
Vegeta: “No…He’d lose if he killed her. He purposefully fired a weak one…”
Goku: “…It seems like he has power far surpassing his own abilities…I don’t get it…What’s going on?...”
Kibito: 60,000,000
The Daizenshuu 7 states that kibito would be able to give gohan a good fight, as long as goan isn't a super saiyan.
Kaioshin: 2,400,000,000
Piccolo implies that Kaioshin’s power is on a whole different level than his own.
Chapter: 439 (DBZ 245), P12.3-4
Context: after Piccolo resigns from his and Kaioshin's match
Goku: “That much, Piccolo?...”
Piccolo: “Yeah…Our dimensions…are too different…”
Kuririn: “Yo-you’re kidding, right? Stop joking around! I-I’ve got to fight him next.”
The Evil Wizard, Babbidi
Vegeta: 72,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 3,600,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 7,200,000,000
--Demon Prince (SSJ2): 9,000,000,000
Chapter: 458 (DBZ 264), P8.1-4, P9.4
Context: as Goku and Vegeta are about to fight
Goku: “I don’t wanna take any damage from you and have it become Majin Boo’s energy…So I’m gonna end this quickly, at maximum power.”
Vegeta: “I’m looking forward to this…Show me the fruits of your training in the afterlife. *Goku transforms into Super Saiyan 2* Just as I’d expect. Your power is greater than Gohan’s was back then!”
*Vegeta transforms into a Super Saiyan 2 as well*
Goku: “This don’t look like it’s gonna end quickly…
Son Goku: 90,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 4,500,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 9,000,000,000
Chapter: 458 (DBZ 264), P8.1-4, P9.4
Context: as Goku and Vegeta are about to fight
Goku: “I don’t wanna take any damage from you and have it become Majin Boo’s energy…So I’m gonna end this quickly, at maximum power.”
Vegeta: “I’m looking forward to this…Show me the fruits of your training in the afterlife. *Goku transforms into Super Saiyan 2* Just as I’d expect. Your power is greater than Gohan’s was back then!”
Son Gohan: 60,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 3,000,000,000
--Super Saiyan 2: 6,000,000,000
It is unclear whether or not Gohan was a Super Saiyan 2 when fighting Dabura. In the manga, Gohan didn’t display any attributes of the Super Saiyan 2 form, however, Goku states that Dabura is probably about as strong as Cell. If Gohan was a Super Saiyan, that wouldn’t make a lot of sense, as Cell powered up even further when fighting Super Saiyan 2 Gohan. The anime is a little more clear on the matter in that it provides extra dialogue implying Gohan was going all out. What’s more, Gohan definitely looked like a Super Saiyan 2 in the anime.
Chapter: 450 (DBZ 256), P2.5, P3.1-4
Context: after Kaioshin again warns against unleashing Boo
Vegeta: “Hmph…The way things are going, this ‘Majin Boo’ guy isn’t going to be anything special, is he? Just like that ‘Dabra’ jerk…[ ] I’m saying that this ‘Dabra’ guy doesn’t seem as bad as you two feared. Looking at his attacks and movement outside earlier, it seems that if we just watch out for his spit, then we should manage something. I can’t call Kibito anything but a bumbler for getting done-in like that…”
Kaioshin: “…Is-is that true, Son Goku?...”
Goku: “Yeah…Well, even if that wasn’t him at full force…I think that before he would have been a frightening opponent, but…7 years ago there was a guy called ‘Cell’…[Dabura]’s probably about as strong as him…”
Episode: 228
Gohan: “What on earth could his intention be?”
Vegeta: “It’s you whose intention I want to know! How could you fail to take down a guy of his level?! If you were even a paltry member of our fighting race, once you started a fight, you’d make sure to take your opponent’s last breath from them!! You’re all too soft!! Everyone of you, fighting behind the mask of justice--it disgusts me! It’s power that commands the fight! The strong are the only ones who survive, while the weak die! Power is everything!”
Gohan: “But--”
Vegeta: “Take a look at Piccolo and them! It’s only because they were weak that they were turned to stone! Hmph! They’re a disgrace!”
Gohan: “That’s right! If i’d only defeated Dabura, Piccolo-san and Kuririn-san would have been turned to normal…”
Goku: “Let it stand at that, Vegeta. Gohan did everything he could do, after all.”
Babbidi: 2
Pui Pui(Pocus): 144,000
Pui Pui was easily beaten by Vegeta, so it’s hard to say how strong he is. Since he thinks being able to move freely in 10 times gravity is impressive, I imagine he isn’t very strong.
Yakon: 80,000,000
-Light Absorbed: 1,200,000,000
Yakon seemed to be around as strong as base goku, perhaps a little weaker. Bobbidi notes that Yakon has 800 Kiris in comparison to Goku’s 3000 Kiris, according to Bobbidi’s energy measuring device. It should be noted, however, that 800 and 3,000 are numbers that are often used to symbolize an “enormous amount” in Japan, so I choose not to take these numbers at face value. That said, Bobbidi’s energy measuring device seems to cap at 3,000, so Super Saiyan Goku’s actually Kiri reading might be much higher than 3,000.
Chapter: 451 (DBZ 257), P3.1
Context: after Babidi measures Super Saiyan Goku's energy as 3,000 kiri
Babidi: "...Is this measuring device malfunctioning...? But if he really is 3,000 kiri... Then Yakon can't win against him... Yakon's energy is 800 kiri..."
Dabura: 3,000,000,000
-Full Power: 6,000,000,000
Dabura’s power is dependent on whether or not Gohan was a Super Saiyan 2. Goku notes that Dabura is stronger than he originally thought because of his use of magic.
Chapter: 455 (DBZ 261), P6.1-2
Context: as Dabura fights Gohan
Goku: “Magic, huh? He’s way stronger than I thought, ain’t he?”
Vegeta: “Hmph…Even so, he’s not an opponent [he? we?] can’t win against. [Gohan]’s so pathetic…So much so that he was stronger as a brat…”
Goku: “He really did slack off!”
Majin Boo is Resurrected
Demon Prince Vegeta: 9,000,000,000
-Final Atonement: 18,000,000,000
Majin Boo: 12,000,000,000
-Angry: 18,000,000,000
-Enraged: 36,000,000,000
It should be noted that Super Saiyan 2 Gohan’s energy was enough to fuel roughly half the energy required to revive Boo. As such, I think that Boo’s initial maximum is twice Super Saiyan 2 Gohan’s. The angrier Boo gets, the more power he has access to. When his anger reaches its limit, Boo splits.
Son Goku: 90,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 4,500,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 9,000,000,000
--Super Saiyan 3: 36,000,000,000
Goku ends up buying time for Trunks to find the Dragon Radar. Since Vegeta couldn’t beat Boo, Goku opts to use Super Saiyan 3. His power far surpasses Boo’s, but as the fight progresses, Boo’s power increases.
Son Goten: 30,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 1,500,000,000
Trunks: 35,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 1,750,000,000
Chapter: 468 (DBZ 274), P12.7
Piccolo: “These two are our only hope…! Th-though it’s a faint hope…”
When Goten and Trunks power up for Goku, Piccolo is completely taken back by how powerful they are, giving further credence to the notion that Goten and Trunks are much stronger than a lot of people think
Gotenks: 600,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 30,000,000,000
Goku states that Gotenks should be stronger than he is, however, it is revealed later that Goku was holding back during his battle with Boo, so it’s hard to say how Gotenks compares to Goku’s maximum. I personally don’t think he’s as strong.
Chapter: 476 (DBZ 282), P9.3
Piccolo: “If that bastard felt like it, he could wipe out the entire Earth, up here included, in the blink of an eye…!”
Goku: “It’s alright, I don’t think he’ll take out the Earth. After all, I told him that in 2 days, someone stronger than me would fight him, and he seemed happy…”
Chapter: 509 (DBZ 315), P11.4-6
Context: as Goku prepares to fight Boo
Goku: “Alrii~~iight. I’d better go all out right from the start…! If we get done in, then the entire universe will go ‘poof’…”
Vegeta: “Let me see this ‘Super Saiyan 3’ thing with my own eyes…”
Goku: “Is that alright? You just might not get your turn…I can say this now, but the truth is that with that fat Boo, I would have been able to defeat him at the time with Super Saiyan 3…However, I wanted the young guys to manage something…For the Earth’s sake too…”
After Super Saiyan Gotenks is formed for the first time, Piccolo states that Gotenks’s Ki is incredible. At no point does Piccolo second guess Goku’s predictions about Gotenks’s strength.
Chapter: 482 (DBZ 288), P7.2-3
Context: after Super Saiyan Gotenks forms for the first time
Piccolo: “…Yeah…Your ki really is absolutely incredible, but how about your movement?...Show me a little.”
Gotenks: “Is that alright? If I show you here, the house might break. I’ll do it on the ground.”
After Evil Boo is formed, it is implied that Gotenks could have taken the fat Majin Boo.
Chapter: 486 (DBZ 292), P2.2-6
Context: after Boo transforms into evil Boo
Piccolo: “…Have you noticed? …This change in Majin Boo’s ki…[ ] …He’s changed…All due to some idiotic Earthlings…He’s become pure evil, and his body has become more suited toward battle…Th-this…this…”
Kuririn: “Wha…What?...D-don’t tell me you’re saying this is bad!? …It’s al-alright! We’ve got the squirts’ Fusion! Goku said that right? That Fusion was the strongest…!”
Dende: “…”
Piccolo: “…That’d be nice, but…”
Chapter: 487 (DBZ 293), P13.5
Context: as Piccolo plans on having Goten and Trunks train in the Room of Spirit and Time
Piccolo: “Can’t you tell…?! As they are now, even if they perform Fusion they can’t win, no doubt about it…! Tell them that if they don’t want to die while they’re still just little brats, then they should train as much as they can…!”
Good Boo: 12,000,000,000
Pure Evil Boo: 24,000,000,000
The Mightiest Warrior!!
Son Goten: 45,000,000
Trunks: 45,000,000
Goten and Trunks have gotten significantly stronger thanks to training in the ROSAT.
Gotenks: 900,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 45,000,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 90,000,000,000
-Super Saiyan 3: 360,000,000,000
Gotenks’s power increased substantially after training in the ROSAT. I think that the build up Gotenks received was highly exaggerated though. Still, the Daizenshuu 7 states that Gotenks surpassed Majin Vegeta after training in the ROSAT. Since he was already stronger as a Super Saiyan prior to training in the ROSAT, one can only assume Gotenks’s base battle power is greater than Majin Vegeta’s. Seeing as how Gotenks can now turn Super Saiyan after fusing, he should be able to power up his base state with Super Saiyan energy like Goku did during the Ano Yo-Ichi Budokai
Chapter: 489 (DBZ 295), P3.5
Context: Trunks doesn't like the idea of fighting Boo as a Super Saiyan 3 from the start
Trunks: "I think...that we've already progressed so much that even in a regular state Fusion, we'll be about equal with Majin Boo..."
Chapter: 489 (DBZ 295), P11.5
Context: seeing Gotenks after he'd trained in the Room of Spirit and Time
Piccolo: "He-he really is different...! He really has greatly powered up...! Th-this just might...!"
Chapter: 489 (DBZ 295), P12.4-7
Context: Gotenks attacks Boo, to no effect
Boo: "May I attack now?"
Gotenks: "...Wa-wait a little bit...*thinking* ...Tha-that's strange...That should have effected him a decent amount, but...Hahha~~an! He's just pretending it didn't hurt him..."
Piccolo: "...Th-this may be hopeless..."
Super Boo: 360,000,000,000
-Gotenks Absorbed: 721,500,000,000
-Piccolo Absorbed: 361,500,000,000
-Gohan Absorbed: 961,590,000,000
Evil Boo’s power is comparable to that of Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks. The Kaioshin Boo has absorbed seem to affect Boo’s power in strange ways. When Pure Evil Boo absorbed Good Boo, his power skyrocketed, much like it did when Pure Boo absorbed South Kaioshin. It should also be noted that Evil Boo’s power is far greater than Super Saiyan 3 Goku’s.
Chapter: 507 (DBZ 313), P12.4-5
Context: after Goku and Vegeta revert Boo back to regular evil Boo
Goku: “Hehhe~~eh! With this, Boo’s power should have fallen significantly! We’re almost there! See, see: the size of his ki is completely different than before!”
Vegeta: “Alright! Let’s blast out of here and escape!”
Goku: “Wait! Even though Boo has returned to normal a whole lot, we’re still simply no match for his strength! If we go outside like this, we’ll definitely be done in…!”
Ultimate Gohan: 600,000,000,000
Chapter: 498 (DBZ 304), P1.3, P2.4
Context: after Gohan beats up on Boo
Gohan: “You can’t win…”
[ ]
Gohan: “I see…So you tried testing your power just to be sure, and I really was above you…That’s too bad, Majin Boo.”
Tenshinhan: 720,000
Kibitoshin: 6,000,000,000
Chapter: 501 (DBZ 307), P11.2-4
Context: right after Kaioshin and Kibito merge
Kaioshin: “Oooh! Am-amazing! This is amazing power! Hahaah! [ ] Goku! I can fight too like this! I’ll go with you!”
Elder Kaioshin: “Don’t get carried away! No matter how strong you’ve become, you were never anything special. I doubt you could fight Boo head-on; you’d just end up getting absorbed. So stay here.”
Son Goku: 90,000,000
Vegeta: 90,000,000
Vegetto: 900,000,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 45,000,000,000,000
Elder Kaioshin notes that Vegetto is abnormally powerful.
Chapter: 504 (DBZ 310), P9.2-3
Context: as Vegetto beats up on Gohan-absorbed Boo
Kaioshin-Kibito: “H-he’s strong!!! Majin Boo there is helpless!!! To think that merging with the Potara would be this incredible…!!”
Elder Kaioshin: “Idiot, it’s because it was those two that they were able to go so far. Two of the top 3 masters in both the living world and afterlife have merged, after all. What’s more, two rivals have joined together. That’s definitely strongest.”
The anime shows base Vegetto going toe to toe with Evil Boo(Gohan Absorbed), so Vegetto should probably be around as strong as Boo.
The Orginal Boo!?
Pure(Kid) Boo: 36,000,000,000
Chapter: 507 (DBZ 313), P13.5
Context: as evil Boo reverts to his South Kaioshin form
Goku: “H-hey…Vegeta…His ki is increasing, ain’t it…!?”
Chapter: 508 (DBZ 314), P3.4-6
Context: after Boo reverts to his pure form
Goku: “…”
Vegeta: “……Heh…Heheheh…Look! He’s shrunk down quite a bit!”
Goku: “We did it! This way, we might be able to manage something.”
Bibbidi: 2
Son Goku: 90,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 9,000,000,000
-Super Saiyan 3: 36,000,000,000
Vegeta: 90,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 9,000,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2 (Enraged): 11,250,000,000
Mr. Satan: 7.8
Mr. Boo: 12,000,000,000
Super Genki Dama: 50,000,000,000
Chapter: 516 (DBZ 322), P8.5-6
Context: people on Namek and in the afterlife watch Boo stall the Genki-Dama
Elder Kaioshin: “Th-this is bad. Ma-maybe that ‘Genki-Dama’ thing st-still doesn’t have enough power…”
Dende: “Th-that can’t be…! We-we already used our ki…”
Enma Daio: “Ha-hang in there, Son Goku…! Th-that Genki-Dama has power from us here in the afterlife in it too…!”
Regarding the strength of the Genki Dama, Goku notes that Vegeta’s energy wasn’t fully restored upon being revived. One can assume the same applies to Gohan and the others, which is why their energy alone wasn’t enough to destroy Boo.
Chapter: 515 (DBZ 321), P5.3
Context: after Vegeta says he’ll hold off Boo again, so Goku can prepare the Genki-Dama
Goku: “You’ll sta-stall for time?…Yo-you’ve just been restored to life. Your ki still ain’t full, is it?!”
The 28th Tenkaichi Budokai
Son Goku: ???
Vegeta: ???
10 years have passed with no real way of discerning how strong Goku and Vegeta have gotten over the years. Probably superior Super Saiyan 3.
Trunks: 90,000,000
Goten: 90,000,000
Chapter: 519 (DBZ 325), P1.3
Goten: “Th-that can’t be! How can I go up against Boo right in the first round?!”
Goku: “It’s only a problem because you keep slacking off in your training.”
Pan: 9,000,000
Chapter: 518 (DBZ 324), P4.1
Goku: “She won’t be able to win the tournament, I suppose, but she should definitely be able to go pretty far. Right now, Pan is the one in our family with the most guts!”
Pan: “Yeah!”
Mr. Satan: 7
Mr. Boo: 12,000,000,000
Oob: 36,000,000,000
Since Oob is the reincarnation of Pure Boo, his potential should be equal to Pure Boo’s. Goku notes that Oob may be stronger than even Good Boo, so it’s possible that Oob is already as strong as Pure Boo. Goku states later than he was incredible as he expected, so it’s likely he is as strong as Pure Boo when his anger is pushed to its limit.
Chapter: 518 (DBZ 324), P6.5
Goku: “…But someone besides us and Boo might win.”
Satan: “Hahhahhah, now really! There’s no way that could happen, right?”
Chapter: 519 (DBZ 325), P12.2-5
Context: Oob is surprised by Goku’s Bukujutsu
Goku: “Oh, I see. You still don’t even know how to fly, huh? …I guess there ain’t no helping it. You haven’t had no teacher, and you probably never even considered things like that. Sorry I bad-mouthed you before. Please forgive me. I just wanted to know your true ability. You’re exactly the person I thought you were. As amazin’ as I expected. But you don’t know how to use your power. This is the first time you’ve fought like this, right? I've got it! From now on I'll live with you at your house and teach you!”
The End[/spoiler]
Vegeta at 75% of the Ginyus is too much. You should or bump Vegeta to 32k, or lowball them to 36 or 37.5k. And Post Recoome Vegeta hoped Goku and Ginyu to kill each other fighting, what implies he can't beat Ginyu by his own.
Kuririn and Gohan are too low, they are supposed to be helpful against Freeza. I'd put them at 300k and 360k. Enraged Gohan is also too low, he ragdolled Freeza, but wasn't strong enough to kill him. Zenkai Gohan should also be stronger than Vegeta, since he was the only one to stand up against Freeza.
Freeza did a power up after recovering from Gohan's beatdown.
100% Freeza is too far from SSjin Goku, he fought pretty well until he runned out of stamina. A 20% gap is almost overkill, considering how badly Monster Zarbon trashed Vegeta. You also have more space to work with the Base Saiyans.
Trunks is too close from Mecha Freeza, he was so confident that he told him to power up. Lowball Freeza to 150 or bump Trunks and Goku.
Sick Goku is >> Yardrat Goku, Tenshinhan was in awe of his power and even noticed he was weakened.
20 post > 19 post. While Vegeta stated 19 wasn't as strong as the expected, Piccolo wondered if 20 was as strong as expected or not.
Post humans Cell's gap on Piccolo is too low. Piccolo's most powerful blast only pushed Cell back without
Perfect Cell Arc gaps are ridiculous. To make it simple:
50% SSjin Goku >=< SSjin Grade 3 Trunks >> Initial Perfect Cell = Warming up SSjin Goku* >>> SSjin Grade 2 Vegeta.
*Remember he powered down after showing his power to Korin, and everybody expected 50% to be his max. Kuririn even was like "Now the true fight begins" after Goku and Cell finished their warm up.
Goten and Trunks are too low. If Gohan is a 3,000; I'd give Trunks and Goten a 2,880 and 2,700.
Pocus is too low. He is one of the best fighters of the universe, and was supposed to be able to fill the tank. He also survived some hits from a Vegeta who couldn't sense his Ki.
Kibito is weaker than Gohan. Even though he's respectable to Gohan, he's definitely weaker. He couldn't lift the Z Sword.
Fat Buu = SSjin 3 Goku? Goku was holding back against Buu and later stated he could have beaten him. Kid Buu, who's equal to Goku, didn't have much trouble against Mr Buu. You could to something like this for Fat Buu:
Initial: 7.5 (Gohan thinks he can manage something if he gets mad, and Vegeta laughs of his power)
1st power up: 11.25 (Convinces Vegeta to team up with Goku)
2nd power up: 15 (Even bother to defend himself from Vegeta's attacks)
Full Power/Enraged: 30 (Holding back SSjin 3 Goku gives him a good fight)
If Gotenks can take Fat Buu, and Goku at least could hide his chances, then SSjin Gotenks > SSjin 3 Goku! It's crystal clear. And why you have Gotenks weaker than Buu?
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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Hey, this list is taken from "ThePrinceOfSaiyans." He just wants credit for the numbers and explanations that you're using. This is his power level guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/12Mv ... FH87A0/pubChickenchaser wrote:Eem... so this is my Battle Powers for dragonball Z Feel Free to critique.
Dragonball Z Sagas
Saiyan Arc
[spoiler]Goku's Older Brother!?
Raditz: 1,500
-Initial: 1,200
Farmer: 5
Son Goku: 334
-W/o Weights: 416
-Kamehameha: 924
Piccolo: 322
-W/o Weights: 408
--Makankosappo: 1,330 - 1,480
Son Gohan: 1
-Upset: 710
--Enraged: 1,307
Kame-sennin: 139
Kuririn: 206
Umigame: 0.001
Yamcha: 177
Tenshinhan: 250
Chaozu: 122
Yajirobe: 185
Enma Daio: 2,000
Kaio: 3,500
The Saiyans Finally Arrive
Piccolo: 1,220
-Full Power: 3,500
Son Gohan: 981
-Enraged: 2,800
-Zenkai: 1,250
--Oozaru (Injured): 4,500
Yamcha: 1,480
Tenshinhan: 1,830
Chaozu: 610
Yajirobe: 970
Saibaimen: 1,200
Nappa: 4,000
-Full Power: 4,800
Number 4,000 is taken from Daizenshuu 7 and I'm put Nappa Full Power Lower than 5,000 but slighty higer than 4,000, because he is Power Up.
Son Goku: 8,000
-Suppressed: 5,000
--Kaio-ken: 16,000
-Kaio-ken x3: 24,000
-Kaio-ken x4: 32,000
Vegeta: 18,000
-Fatigued: 12,000
--Oozaru (Post Powerball): 80,000
-Injured: 2,000
Genki Dama: 130,000
-Weakened: 6,500[/spoiler]
Freeza Arc
[spoiler]Let's Go Namek!!
Kuririn: 1,800
-Potential Unlocked: 7,000
Son Gohan: 1,500
-Potential Unlocked: 8,000
Vegeta: 24,000
-Zenkai: 30,000
Chapter: 249 (DBZ 55), P3.2-6, P4.1-2
Context: Freeza, Zarbon and Dodoria discuss Vegeta's battle power as he powers up against Kui. Zarbon's scouter had exploded.
Zarbon: "I... I think it's a malfunction, but... My scouter was set on Vegeta, and as the figures surpassed twe... 22,000..."
Dodoria: "It's definitely a malfunction! Your scouter's an old model, after all. I'll check out the correct figure off mine..."
Zarbon: "What's the figure...?"
Dodoria: "Th... that's impossible... Is my new model malfunctioning too...?! It's risen to up to twe... 24,000... !!"
Zarbon: "24,000...?! Are you saying it's higher than o... our own battle powers...?!"
Dodoria: "Th... this can't be...!! H... his battle power was barely 18,000..."
Freeza: "That shouldn't be a surprise. It's all because Vegeta's been ceaselessly fighting on the front lines. Perhaps he's caught on to something new on Earth. It's merely 24,000. That's a figure that you two would be more than able to win against if you fought together, is it not? Fufufu..."
Chapter: 275 (DBZ 81), P4.2
Context: Vegeta powers up to fight Reacoom.
Jheese: "Hey, hey, Vegeta's battle power has risen up close to 30,000!"
Kui: 18,000
Namekian Warriors: 3,000
-Suppressed: 1,000
Dodoria: 22,000
Zarbon: 23,000
-Transformed: 28,000
The Ginyu Force!
Son Gohan: 14,000
-Zenkai: 26,000
Kuririn: 13,000
-Potential Increasing: 23,000+
Vegeta: 30,000
-Zenkai: 120,000
I'm giving Vegeta (After Reacoom fight) Battle power of 120,000 because i think 250,000 is too high.
Chapter: 289 (DBZ 95), P6.1-2
Context: after Jheese freaks out over Vegeta's new battle power
Vegeta: “That’s right…I’ve surpassed Saiyan limits, and my strength is still increasing more and more…The truth is that I’ve realized it too…That this extension of my power isn’t merely what you’d call giftedness…In other words…I’m steadily drawing near…to becoming a Super Saiyan!”
Gurd: 5,000
Chapter: 273 (DBZ 79), P2.6
Kuririn: “Th…that one…He’s the only one who’s nothing special…Wh-what’s he doing mixed in with those guys…?!”
Reacoom: 40,000
Jheese: 40,000
Butta: 40,000
These 3 are noted to be more or less on par with one another. Ginyu also notes that a person with a battle power of 60,000 should easily be able to dispatch of these 3.
Chapter: 281 (DBZ 87), P11.1
Context: Gohan doesn't think Jheese and Burta are that strong
Kuririn: "Th...that shouldn't be... Th...those guys have about the same amount of ki as th...that Reacoom guy, and not even Vegeta could do anything against him...But Goku's too strong, so those guys don't look like anything special..."
Gohan: "I... I suppose... But father's ki is a lot smaller than theirs..."
Chapter: 283 (DBZ 89), P11.1-3
Ginyu: "In my estimation, his ability looks like it's about 60,000."
Jheese: "Six... 60,000!? H-he's a Saiyan!! Whoever heard of a Saiyan at 60,000...?!!"
Ginyu: “It’s not impossible. He could be like us, a super-gifted warrior, born with a mutation…Looks like this will be an unprecedentedly entertaining battle…I never thought the time would come for me to show my true power.”
Son Goku: 90,000
-Suppressed: 5,000
-Ginyu Estimate: 60,000
--Kaio-ken: 180,000
Chapter: 285 (DBZ 91), P1.2-3, P2.2
Context: as Goku continues to use the Kaio-ken
Ginyu: "Twe... 120,000... 130,000... 140,000... It's sti... sti... still rising... !!!! It... it can't be... 160,000... "Eigh... 180,000...?! Un...unbelievable...Th-this is your true power...?!!"
Captain Ginyu: 120,000
-Goku's Body: 23,000+
Chapter: 285 (DBZ 91), P3.1
Jheese: "Even Ca... Captain Ginyu's highest figure is 120,000..."
Chapter: 288 (DBZ 94), P13.2-4
Context: Ginyu powers up in Goku’s body
Ginyu: "Guhahahahaha...!!!! Jheese!! How much is my battle power?!"
Jheese: ".....Twe... 23,000...."
Ginyu: “Twe…23,000…only 23,000…!?”
Nail: 42,000
Chapter: 286 (DBZ 92), P5.1-2
Context: Nail powers up for Freeza
Freeza: "Hoh! This is incredible! Your battle power has risen to 42,000. I see, you truly do seem to be completely different than all the Namekians up to now. I'm surprised...This is a magnificent battle power! I can see why you're called a Warrior-type. It's enough to make me want you for an underling."
Freeza (50%): 265,000
Chapter: 286 (DBZ 92), P5.4
Freeza: "My battle power is 530,000. But of course, I don't intend to fight you at full power, so you can relax..."
The Legendary Super Saiyan
Vegeta: 480,000
-Zenkai: 2,400,000
Kuririn: 75,000
Son Gohan: 200,000
-Enraged: 800,000
--Zenkai: 400,000
-Enraged: 1,600,000
Chapter: 299 (DBZ 105), P13.1
Context: after Gohan is healed by Dende
Vegeta: “Heh…Just as you’d expect of someone with Saiyan blood, after reviving his battle power has greatly risen…A-alright! Luck is turning our way just a little bit…
Freeza: 530,000
-First Transformation: 1,060,000
--Full Power: 1,200,000
-Second Transformation: 1,800,000
--Final Form: 3,000,000
-50%: 60,000,000
-100%: 120,000,000
Freeza’s second form is stated to have a battle power that exceeds 1 million. After powering up, he is able to gain the upper hand on Piccolo. After Piccolo removes his weighted clothing, Freeza ascends to his third form, which surpasses Piccolo’s full power. After an angry Gohan pressures Freez’s third form, Freeza ascends to his final form, and easily defeats a renewed Vegeta, but has a hard time against a renewed Goku. After warming up for a bit, Freeza decides to showcase 50% of his power, and this 60 million figure is taken from the Daizenshuu 7. After Goku turns into a Super Saiyan, Freeza decides to go all out. His 120 million figure is also taken from the Daizenshuu 7.
Piccolo(W/ weights): 56,250
-Merged With Nail: 1,125,000
-W/o Weights: 1,350,000
Piccolo has gotten a lot stronger after training on Kaio’s planet. Nail even seems to imply that Piccolo is stronger than he is. After merging with Nail, he is able to go toe to toe with Freeza in his second form.
Chapter: 295 (DBZ 101), P1.4, P2.1-5, P3.1
Nail: “I-I’m astonished…I don’t know what kind of training you’ve done, but you’ve acquired unbelievable power…Still, it’s unfortunate…If you had only returned to the original, single Namekian you were, you might have been able to defeat even Freeza…”
Piccolo: “Are you saying that if I merged with God once again, my power would even surpass Freeza!?”
Nail: “Th-that’s right…I was overwhelmingly defeated by Freeza, but I should have a good comprehension of his abilities…[ ] So merge with me…! I’m also the only fighting-type Namekian on this planet…[ ] That’s right…Your power will become many times greater…”
Piccolo: “…You’re not lying, are you?”
Nail: “If you think so, you can just go get killed by Freeza…”
Son Goku: 3,000,000
-Kaio-ken x10: 30,000,000
--Kaio-ken x20: 60,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 150,000,000
Large Genki Dama: 75,000,000
Freeza was unable hold the Large Genki Dama back, so one can assume its power is greater than that of Freeza’s when at half strength.[/spoiler]
Cell Arc
[spoiler]The Mysterious Youth
Mecha Freeza: 160,000,000
-Suppressed: 4,000,000
Freeza is now stronger than he was on Namek thanks to his cybernetic enhancements. Due to his confidence, I assume he’s stronger than Super Saiyan Goku was on Namek.
Chapter: 330 (DBZ 136), P13.3-4
Cold: "The Earthlings don't matter, but the Super Saiyan alone we absolutely must exterminate, by any means. The one who holds the greatest power in the universe must without a doubt be our clan"
Freeza: "We can definitely defeat him if we go at him together, Papa. And I've powered up too, so I think I can probably go alone."
When Yamcha senses Freeza’s power, Gohan states that he can get much stronger. Freeza never seems to power up prior to his death, so I assume he was suppressed while taking on Trunks.
Chapter: 330 (DBZ 136), P9.7
Yamcha: “So this guy called ‘Fr…Freeza’ has such terrible…ab…absurdly large ki…?”
Gohan: “This isn’t it…he gets much, much stronger…!”
King Cold: 100,000,000
Vegeta: 3,200,000
Piccolo(W/ weights): 2,250,000
Son Gohan: 400,000
Kuririn: 100,000
Tenshinhan: 72,000
Yamcha: 48,000
Future Trunks: 3,600,000
-Super Saiyan: 180,000,000
--Super Saiyan (Holding Back Against Goku): 90,000,000
Since Trunks took out a stronger Freeza, one can assume Trunks is stronger than Goku was on Namek. Granted, Freeza seemed to be suppressed even up to his death, but Trunks was confident he could take out Freeza at full power.
Chapter: 331 (DBZ 137), P9.1
Context: challenging Freeza and Cold
Trunks: “Come at me at full power right from the start. I’m not soft like Son Goku…”
Son Goku: 4,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 200,000,000
After battle with freeza goku's got a zenkai (1.33x).
Chapter: 334 (DBZ 140), P13.3-5
Context: after Trunks and Goku fight
Trunks: “As expected, the rumors were true. No, you’re even greater…This was the sword that cut even Freeza…”
Goku: “You weren’t serious, after all.”
The Artificial Humans Are Released
Son Goku: 6,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 300,000,000
--Super Saiyan (Heart Virus): 100,000,000-
Piccolo: 225,000,000
-W/ weights: 187,500,000
--Merged With Kami: 375,000,000
-W/o weights: 450,000,000
Piccolo seems to have gotten a substantial boost by training with Super Saiyan Goku. When Piccolo was fighting Dr. Gero, Kuririn notes that Piccolo’s power has become comparable to a Super Saiyan.
Chapter: 346 (DBZ 152), P12.4
Kuririn: “He’s st-strong…! What kind of training did Piccolo do…And he’s not even a Su-Super Saiyan…”
After merging with God, Piccolo becomes twice as strong, since he’s reunited with his other half.
Son Gohan: 3,000,000
Kuririn: 1,000,000
Tenshinhan: 360,000
Yamcha: 240,000
Vegeta: 6,400,000
-Super Saiyan: 320,000,000
Chapter: 345 (DBZ 151), P6.1-2
Context: after Vegeta scares No.20 away with a bluff
Piccolo: "He really had lost a lot of stamina...when he confirmed that the Artificial Humans sucked out energy with the palms of their hands...He ought to have lost if he had fought that No.20 guy...But he talked as if he still had something up his sleeve...Vegeta really is a fighting genius...He might have sur-surpassed...Goku..."
Trunks: 4,800,000
-Super Saiyan: 240,000,000
Android No. 19: 75,000,000
-Energy Absorbed: 225,000,000
Chapter: 341 (DBZ 147), P14.6
Context: after No.19 absorbs Goku’s attack
No.20: “Alright! No.19’s maximum power rating has greatly increased from what it was before! In contrast, Son Goku’s energy has fallen remarkably…!”
Android No.20: 100,000,000
-Energy Absorbed: 150,000,000
Chapter: 340 (DBZ 146), P14.1
Context: after Goku transforms into a Super Saiyan
No.20: “However, this isn’t anything great enough to give us reason to fear. It’s still within a level which even No.19 is more than capable of defeating, and naturally that goes for myself as well…”
Android No.18: 400,000,000
Chapter: 353 (DBZ 159), P10.2-4, P11.1
Context: after Vegeta continues to fight No.18
Vegeta: “This is really starting to annoy me. You act as if nothing’s happened…”
No.18: “I’m surprised. To think that a flesh-and-blood human could be so good, even if you are an alien. Is this man called ‘Son Goku’ even stronger?”
Vegeta: “Don’t kid yourself. He may have temporarily slipped by me, but now things have returned to normal and I should be on top again.”
No.18: “What? So you’re nothing special. Either of you.”
Chapter: 367 (DBZ 173), title page
Text box: “Her power is more suppressed than No.17's, but in the end she too is a failure who doesn't listen to orders.”
Android No.17: 450,000,000
Based on Piccolo’s battle with No. 17, it would appear that No. 17 is equal to Piccolo after he’s merged with God.
Cell: 360,000,000
Cell is strong enough to give a weighted Piccolo some trouble. Because of that, we can at least be sure he’s weaker than No. 17 at this point in the story.
Cell is Complete!
Piccolo: 450,000,000
Android No.17: 450,000,000
Android No.18: 400,000,000
Cell: 550,000,000
-Second Form: 800,000,000
--Full Power: 1,000,000,000
-Perfect Form (Suppressed): 1,600,000,000
Cell has grown stronger by absorbing countless Earthlings. His power is equal to that of No. 16’s.
Chapter: 371 (DBZ 177), P6.4
Context: before No.16 goes to fight first form Cell
No.16: “According to my calculations, my power is about equal to Cell’s.”
After absorbing No. 17, Cell add’s his power to his own. Cell is suppressed when Vegeta shows up. Even after powering up, he’s still no match for Vegeta, however.
Chapter: 378 (DBZ 184), P7.3, P8.1
Context: after Vegeta beats up Cell more
Cell: “Seems you want me to get serious…”
Vegeta: “I thought you already were serious…”
Chapter: 378 (DBZ 184), P11.2, P11.4
Context: After Cell unleashes his full power
Vegeta: “Oh, your battle power really flew up there…But so what?”
Trunks: “…This is father’s victory.”
After absorbing No. 18, Cell’s power goes through a drastic change, being greater than the sum of his parts. Having both Artificial Humans absorbed likely triggered a reaction within Cell’s body, granting him a substantial power boost. He is suppressed when facing both Vegeta and Trunks, as it is revealed later that he can power up even further during the Cell Games.
Android No.16: 550,000,000
Tenshinhan: 360,000
-Shin Kikoho!: 720,000,000
Since Tenshinhan was able to keep Cell down, I’m pretty much forced to assume the Shin Kikoho’s power level is massive.
Vegeta: 18,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 900,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2nd Grade: 1,350,000,000
Trunks seems to imply that Super Saiyan Vegeta is already stronger than a suppressed Second Form Cell. I would assume he’s still inferior to Cell’s full power in his second form. After ascending to the second grade, his power eclipses Cell’s.
Chapter: 377 (DBZ 183), P3.1-2
Context: as Vegeta is about to fight second form Cell
Trunks: “Father intends to ‘become’ that right off the bat…! [Become] that…!”
Future Trunks: 17,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 850,000,000
--Super Saiyan 2nd Grade: 1,275,000,000
-Super Saiyan 3rd Grade: 1,700,000,000
Chapter: 379 (DBZ 185), P11.4
Context: Vegeta talks to second form Cell
Vegeta: “Heh. I’ll tell you something that will really shock you! There’s a guy named Trunks over there. He’s not as powerful as me, but we’re pretty close…!”
Cell also notes that Trunks’s power in his grade 3 form is superior to that of his in his suppressed state.
Chapter: 387 (DBZ 193), P1.3, P2.1-3
Context: as Trunks uses his Super Saiyan Grade III power
Trunks: “What you’re about to see now…is my true power!!!”
Cell: “I see…It truly is magnificent power…You easily surpass me…But you can’t win against me like that…Absolutely not…”
Super Saiyan Goku(Suppressed): 600,000,000
-Half Strength: 1,500,000,000
Super Saiyan Gohan(Suppressed): 700,000,000
Goku and Gohan in their suppressed states are clearly weaker than Vegeta and Trunks, since neither have realized they have been surpassed. Half of Goku’s strength was enough to surpass that of Vegeta’s grade 2 form, seeing as how Vegeta admitted is inferiority without even knowing that was only half of Goku’s power.
Chapter: 391 (DBZ 197), P10.4-5
Context: After powering up and almost destroying Karin’s tower…
Goku: “That just now was about half power. What do you think?”
Karin: “Half power…?! What a fearsome guy you are…How strong will you become before you’re satisfied…?!”
Chapter: 391 (DBZ 197), P13.1-2
Context: After sensing half of Full Power Super Saiyan Goku’s max power from a distance.
Vegeta (to self): “Damn you, Kakarot… It’s always like this… He’s always a step ahead of me…! It drives me crazy…Just when I think I’ve caught up, he widens the lead again…”
Cell Games
Vegeta: 36,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 1,800,000,000
We can be sure that Vegeta has surpassed the strength Goku displayed for Karin, since Vegeta was initially confident he was going to win the Cell Games.
Chapter: 395 (DBZ 201), P13.5
Context: after Goku says he’ll fight first Cell first
Vegeta: “Do what you want. Either way, I’ll be the one to finish this…”
Trunks: 35,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 1,750,000,000
Piccolo: 1,200,000,000
-W/ weights: 1,000,000,000
Chapter: 392 (DBZ 198), P13.1-5
Goku: “Hey… Piccolo! Did you go into the Room of Spirit and Time?”
Piccolo: “Indeed.”
Goku: “I can tell! You’ve risen to an entirely different level.”
Piccolo: “…Why don’t you just be frank with me? I’ve grown stronger, but even so, it won’t do any good against Cell…”
Goku: “…Yeah, it won’t do any good.”
Kuririn: 1,000,000
Tenshinhan: 360,000
Yamcha: 240,000
Mr. Satan: 8
Super Saiyan Goku: 3,000,000,000
-Half Strength: 1,500,000,000
Super Saiyan Gohan: 3,500,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2(Enraged): 8,750,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 7,000,000,000
Chapter: 402 (DBZ 208), P6.5, P7.1-6
Context: after Goku asks Gohan to be the next one to fight Cell
Piccolo: “Don’t talk crazy, Goku! There’s no way he’d be able to fight! It’s true that he’s raised his abilities so much that he’s unrecognizable, but his opponent is Cell, who even you were no match for!”
Goku: “Piccolo, Gohan has more unbelievable power than we think. Think about it. He’s fought the same as everyone since he was a little squirt…When I was about his age, I wasn’t anything special.”
Kuririn: “B-but even if he’s become a Super Saiyan…Th-this is so quick…”
Goku: “In the Room of Spirit and Time, the dormant power sealed away deep, deep inside him began to be released. Why don’t we try asking him? How about it, Gohan? Did you think that dad and Cell’s fight just now was too incredible and you couldn’t keep up?”
Gohan: “N-no, I didn’t think so…But neither of you were fighting all-out, right…!?”
Goku: “I don’t know about Cell, but I was going all-out. So in other words, to you it felt like I was holding back?”
Chapter: 404 (DBZ 210), P2.3-4
Context: after Gohan powers up
Vegeta: “That brat…How did he get such a gigantic battle power?…This is impossible…!”
Cell: “Looks like what Son Goku said wasn’t a complete bluff…But it seems he overstated things a little when he said you could defeat me…”
Perfect Cell: 4,800,000,000
-Suppressed: 3,200,000,000
--Super Perfect Form: 7,200,000,000
Cell Junior(s): 2,000,000,000
Chapter: 407 (DBZ 213), P5.3
Context: as the Cell Juniors beat everyone up
Cell (to Gohan): “If you don’t show your true worth soon, things will go past the point of no return. Look closely. Vegeta or Trunks are barely fighting evenly…Even Son Goku is in trouble, having lost his stamina…”[/spoiler]
Boo Arc
[spoiler]Great Saiyaman!
Son Gohan: ~60,000,000
-Super Saiyan: ~3,000,000,000
Chapter: 444 (DBZ 250), P7.1-4
Gohan: “Well, I’ve become a Super Saiyan. Now what? Is it alright if I fight like this?”
Kibito: “…Wh-what tremendous power…I can’t believe he’s a being of the lower world!”
Vegeta: “…Hmph…That bastard, he was far, far better when he killed Cell. It’s because he slacked off in his training during peacetime…”
Kaioshin: “…No, even so this is magnificent energy, more so than I imagined…I wonder if I’ll be able to stop this power…”
Goku: “…Stop it?”
Videl: ~9
Chapter: 424 (DBZ 230), P14.2
Context: as Videl easily beats up the big robber
Gohan: "Heh~~This is surprising! She really is pretty strong...She might just be stronger than Mister Satan."
Son Goten: ~30,000,000
-Super Saiyan: ~1,500,000,000
Trunks: ~35,000,000
-Super Saiyan: ~1,750,000,000
I feel a lot of people greatly underestimate what Goten and Trunks are capable of. I’ll go into greater detail regarding their strength in the 25th Tenkaichi Budokai section, but for now, Gohan states that he may be outstripped by Goten if he’s not careful. What’s more, Gohan states that Goten would make a good sparring partner, and during their sparring sessions, Goten was able to pressure Gohan. After Trunks is able to graze Vegeta, Vegeta asks Trunks who’s stronger between the two, and Trunks says he’s stronger. Goten also admits as much.
Chapter: 427 (DBZ 233), P12.3-6
Context: after Gohan and Goten spar a little bit
Gohan: “You’re very gifted at grappling too, Goten! You really surprised me! I hadn’t known you were that good! If you train well, maybe you’ll be able to enter the Tenkaichi Budoukai too!”
Goten: “Really!? But Trunks is even stronger than me. We play-fight together!”
Gohan: “Really!? That’s how you guys have been playing?...*thinking* If I’m not careful, I’ll be outstripped…by these little squirts…”
Chapter: 429 (DBZ 235), P8.7
Context: after Vegeta asks Trunks if he's stronger than Goten
Trunks: "I'm just a little bit stronger. Goten's 1 year young, and he still can't fly."
Vegeta: ~72,000,000
-Super Saiyan: ~3,600,000,000
Chapter: 426 (DBZ 232), P4.2-3
Context: Vegeta talks to Gohan
Vegeta: “At that time there was a large gap between our powers…But what about now? While you’ve been enjoying peace, I’ve continued to train.”
The 25th Tenkaichi Budokai
Son Gohan: 60,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 3,000,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2 : 6,000,000,000
Videl: 9
Son Goten: 30,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 1,500,000,000
Trunks: 35,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 1,750,000,000
During the battle between No. 18 and Goten and Trunks disguised as Mighty Mask, Super Saiyan Trunks fires a Kiai cannon at No. 18. Trunks states he was holding back when he fired his attack, and No. 18 was completely blown away by how strong his attack was. With all of this in mind we can be sure that a suppressed Super Saiyan Trunks is stronger than No. 18. Movie 11 gives greater credence to that notion.
Chapter: 453 (DBZ 259), P9.2-7
Context: as Trunks and Goten fight No.18 in their Mighty Mask costume
No.18: “…He really is a weird bastard…His arms and legs are extremely small for his body…And he’s so unusually strong…”
*they become Super Saiyans*
No.18: “!!”
Trunks: “Either way, we’re at a disadvantage in this getup, so we’ve got no choice but to settle this with a kiai cannon!”
Goten: “Eh! But will she be alright?...”
Trunks: “Don’t worry, she won’t die if we do it appropriately. She’s No.18…”
Chapter: 453 (DBZ 259), P10.1-2
Context: as Trunks turns Super Saiyan and prepares to fire a ki blast at No.18
No.18: “…I see…Super Saiyan, huh?...I finally know your identity, boys…”
Goten: “Don’t do it at full force!”
Trunks: “I know, I know!”
Chapter: 453 (DBZ 259), P12.4, P13.1
Context: after Trunks’ ki blast explodes
No.18: “Yo-you’ve got to be kidding…That energy bullet had absolutely incredible speed and destructive power…Co-could it be that those squirts have outrageous power?…This is dangerous! I’ve got to settle this fight soon!”
Vegeta: 72,000,000
Son Goku(Suppressed): 75,000,000
Piccolo(W/ weights): 1,500,000,000
Kuririn: 1,000,000
Yamcha: 220,000
Android No.18: 400,000,000
Spopovitch: 26
Yamu: 26
Chapter: 441 (DBZ 247), P12.2-5
Kuririn: “Th-that bastard, he [fired] a ki wave…though it didn’t have that much ki power…!”
Vegeta: “No…He’d lose if he killed her. He purposefully fired a weak one…”
Goku: “…It seems like he has power far surpassing his own abilities…I don’t get it…What’s going on?...”
Kibito: 60,000,000
The Daizenshuu 7 states that kibito would be able to give gohan a good fight, as long as goan isn't a super saiyan.
Kaioshin: 2,400,000,000
Piccolo implies that Kaioshin’s power is on a whole different level than his own.
Chapter: 439 (DBZ 245), P12.3-4
Context: after Piccolo resigns from his and Kaioshin's match
Goku: “That much, Piccolo?...”
Piccolo: “Yeah…Our dimensions…are too different…”
Kuririn: “Yo-you’re kidding, right? Stop joking around! I-I’ve got to fight him next.”
The Evil Wizard, Babbidi
Vegeta: 72,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 3,600,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 7,200,000,000
--Demon Prince (SSJ2): 9,000,000,000
Chapter: 458 (DBZ 264), P8.1-4, P9.4
Context: as Goku and Vegeta are about to fight
Goku: “I don’t wanna take any damage from you and have it become Majin Boo’s energy…So I’m gonna end this quickly, at maximum power.”
Vegeta: “I’m looking forward to this…Show me the fruits of your training in the afterlife. *Goku transforms into Super Saiyan 2* Just as I’d expect. Your power is greater than Gohan’s was back then!”
*Vegeta transforms into a Super Saiyan 2 as well*
Goku: “This don’t look like it’s gonna end quickly…
Son Goku: 90,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 4,500,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 9,000,000,000
Chapter: 458 (DBZ 264), P8.1-4, P9.4
Context: as Goku and Vegeta are about to fight
Goku: “I don’t wanna take any damage from you and have it become Majin Boo’s energy…So I’m gonna end this quickly, at maximum power.”
Vegeta: “I’m looking forward to this…Show me the fruits of your training in the afterlife. *Goku transforms into Super Saiyan 2* Just as I’d expect. Your power is greater than Gohan’s was back then!”
Son Gohan: 60,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 3,000,000,000
--Super Saiyan 2: 6,000,000,000
It is unclear whether or not Gohan was a Super Saiyan 2 when fighting Dabura. In the manga, Gohan didn’t display any attributes of the Super Saiyan 2 form, however, Goku states that Dabura is probably about as strong as Cell. If Gohan was a Super Saiyan, that wouldn’t make a lot of sense, as Cell powered up even further when fighting Super Saiyan 2 Gohan. The anime is a little more clear on the matter in that it provides extra dialogue implying Gohan was going all out. What’s more, Gohan definitely looked like a Super Saiyan 2 in the anime.
Chapter: 450 (DBZ 256), P2.5, P3.1-4
Context: after Kaioshin again warns against unleashing Boo
Vegeta: “Hmph…The way things are going, this ‘Majin Boo’ guy isn’t going to be anything special, is he? Just like that ‘Dabra’ jerk…[ ] I’m saying that this ‘Dabra’ guy doesn’t seem as bad as you two feared. Looking at his attacks and movement outside earlier, it seems that if we just watch out for his spit, then we should manage something. I can’t call Kibito anything but a bumbler for getting done-in like that…”
Kaioshin: “…Is-is that true, Son Goku?...”
Goku: “Yeah…Well, even if that wasn’t him at full force…I think that before he would have been a frightening opponent, but…7 years ago there was a guy called ‘Cell’…[Dabura]’s probably about as strong as him…”
Episode: 228
Gohan: “What on earth could his intention be?”
Vegeta: “It’s you whose intention I want to know! How could you fail to take down a guy of his level?! If you were even a paltry member of our fighting race, once you started a fight, you’d make sure to take your opponent’s last breath from them!! You’re all too soft!! Everyone of you, fighting behind the mask of justice--it disgusts me! It’s power that commands the fight! The strong are the only ones who survive, while the weak die! Power is everything!”
Gohan: “But--”
Vegeta: “Take a look at Piccolo and them! It’s only because they were weak that they were turned to stone! Hmph! They’re a disgrace!”
Gohan: “That’s right! If i’d only defeated Dabura, Piccolo-san and Kuririn-san would have been turned to normal…”
Goku: “Let it stand at that, Vegeta. Gohan did everything he could do, after all.”
Babbidi: 2
Pui Pui(Pocus): 144,000
Pui Pui was easily beaten by Vegeta, so it’s hard to say how strong he is. Since he thinks being able to move freely in 10 times gravity is impressive, I imagine he isn’t very strong.
Yakon: 80,000,000
-Light Absorbed: 1,200,000,000
Yakon seemed to be around as strong as base goku, perhaps a little weaker. Bobbidi notes that Yakon has 800 Kiris in comparison to Goku’s 3000 Kiris, according to Bobbidi’s energy measuring device. It should be noted, however, that 800 and 3,000 are numbers that are often used to symbolize an “enormous amount” in Japan, so I choose not to take these numbers at face value. That said, Bobbidi’s energy measuring device seems to cap at 3,000, so Super Saiyan Goku’s actually Kiri reading might be much higher than 3,000.
Chapter: 451 (DBZ 257), P3.1
Context: after Babidi measures Super Saiyan Goku's energy as 3,000 kiri
Babidi: "...Is this measuring device malfunctioning...? But if he really is 3,000 kiri... Then Yakon can't win against him... Yakon's energy is 800 kiri..."
Dabura: 3,000,000,000
-Full Power: 6,000,000,000
Dabura’s power is dependent on whether or not Gohan was a Super Saiyan 2. Goku notes that Dabura is stronger than he originally thought because of his use of magic.
Chapter: 455 (DBZ 261), P6.1-2
Context: as Dabura fights Gohan
Goku: “Magic, huh? He’s way stronger than I thought, ain’t he?”
Vegeta: “Hmph…Even so, he’s not an opponent [he? we?] can’t win against. [Gohan]’s so pathetic…So much so that he was stronger as a brat…”
Goku: “He really did slack off!”
Majin Boo is Resurrected
Demon Prince Vegeta: 9,000,000,000
-Final Atonement: 18,000,000,000
Majin Boo: 12,000,000,000
-Angry: 18,000,000,000
-Enraged: 36,000,000,000
It should be noted that Super Saiyan 2 Gohan’s energy was enough to fuel roughly half the energy required to revive Boo. As such, I think that Boo’s initial maximum is twice Super Saiyan 2 Gohan’s. The angrier Boo gets, the more power he has access to. When his anger reaches its limit, Boo splits.
Son Goku: 90,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 4,500,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 9,000,000,000
--Super Saiyan 3: 36,000,000,000
Goku ends up buying time for Trunks to find the Dragon Radar. Since Vegeta couldn’t beat Boo, Goku opts to use Super Saiyan 3. His power far surpasses Boo’s, but as the fight progresses, Boo’s power increases.
Son Goten: 30,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 1,500,000,000
Trunks: 35,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 1,750,000,000
Chapter: 468 (DBZ 274), P12.7
Piccolo: “These two are our only hope…! Th-though it’s a faint hope…”
When Goten and Trunks power up for Goku, Piccolo is completely taken back by how powerful they are, giving further credence to the notion that Goten and Trunks are much stronger than a lot of people think
Gotenks: 600,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 30,000,000,000
Goku states that Gotenks should be stronger than he is, however, it is revealed later that Goku was holding back during his battle with Boo, so it’s hard to say how Gotenks compares to Goku’s maximum. I personally don’t think he’s as strong.
Chapter: 476 (DBZ 282), P9.3
Piccolo: “If that bastard felt like it, he could wipe out the entire Earth, up here included, in the blink of an eye…!”
Goku: “It’s alright, I don’t think he’ll take out the Earth. After all, I told him that in 2 days, someone stronger than me would fight him, and he seemed happy…”
Chapter: 509 (DBZ 315), P11.4-6
Context: as Goku prepares to fight Boo
Goku: “Alrii~~iight. I’d better go all out right from the start…! If we get done in, then the entire universe will go ‘poof’…”
Vegeta: “Let me see this ‘Super Saiyan 3’ thing with my own eyes…”
Goku: “Is that alright? You just might not get your turn…I can say this now, but the truth is that with that fat Boo, I would have been able to defeat him at the time with Super Saiyan 3…However, I wanted the young guys to manage something…For the Earth’s sake too…”
After Super Saiyan Gotenks is formed for the first time, Piccolo states that Gotenks’s Ki is incredible. At no point does Piccolo second guess Goku’s predictions about Gotenks’s strength.
Chapter: 482 (DBZ 288), P7.2-3
Context: after Super Saiyan Gotenks forms for the first time
Piccolo: “…Yeah…Your ki really is absolutely incredible, but how about your movement?...Show me a little.”
Gotenks: “Is that alright? If I show you here, the house might break. I’ll do it on the ground.”
After Evil Boo is formed, it is implied that Gotenks could have taken the fat Majin Boo.
Chapter: 486 (DBZ 292), P2.2-6
Context: after Boo transforms into evil Boo
Piccolo: “…Have you noticed? …This change in Majin Boo’s ki…[ ] …He’s changed…All due to some idiotic Earthlings…He’s become pure evil, and his body has become more suited toward battle…Th-this…this…”
Kuririn: “Wha…What?...D-don’t tell me you’re saying this is bad!? …It’s al-alright! We’ve got the squirts’ Fusion! Goku said that right? That Fusion was the strongest…!”
Dende: “…”
Piccolo: “…That’d be nice, but…”
Chapter: 487 (DBZ 293), P13.5
Context: as Piccolo plans on having Goten and Trunks train in the Room of Spirit and Time
Piccolo: “Can’t you tell…?! As they are now, even if they perform Fusion they can’t win, no doubt about it…! Tell them that if they don’t want to die while they’re still just little brats, then they should train as much as they can…!”
Good Boo: 12,000,000,000
Pure Evil Boo: 24,000,000,000
The Mightiest Warrior!!
Son Goten: 45,000,000
Trunks: 45,000,000
Goten and Trunks have gotten significantly stronger thanks to training in the ROSAT.
Gotenks: 900,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 45,000,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 90,000,000,000
-Super Saiyan 3: 360,000,000,000
Gotenks’s power increased substantially after training in the ROSAT. I think that the build up Gotenks received was highly exaggerated though. Still, the Daizenshuu 7 states that Gotenks surpassed Majin Vegeta after training in the ROSAT. Since he was already stronger as a Super Saiyan prior to training in the ROSAT, one can only assume Gotenks’s base battle power is greater than Majin Vegeta’s. Seeing as how Gotenks can now turn Super Saiyan after fusing, he should be able to power up his base state with Super Saiyan energy like Goku did during the Ano Yo-Ichi Budokai
Chapter: 489 (DBZ 295), P3.5
Context: Trunks doesn't like the idea of fighting Boo as a Super Saiyan 3 from the start
Trunks: "I think...that we've already progressed so much that even in a regular state Fusion, we'll be about equal with Majin Boo..."
Chapter: 489 (DBZ 295), P11.5
Context: seeing Gotenks after he'd trained in the Room of Spirit and Time
Piccolo: "He-he really is different...! He really has greatly powered up...! Th-this just might...!"
Chapter: 489 (DBZ 295), P12.4-7
Context: Gotenks attacks Boo, to no effect
Boo: "May I attack now?"
Gotenks: "...Wa-wait a little bit...*thinking* ...Tha-that's strange...That should have effected him a decent amount, but...Hahha~~an! He's just pretending it didn't hurt him..."
Piccolo: "...Th-this may be hopeless..."
Super Boo: 360,000,000,000
-Gotenks Absorbed: 721,500,000,000
-Piccolo Absorbed: 361,500,000,000
-Gohan Absorbed: 961,590,000,000
Evil Boo’s power is comparable to that of Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks. The Kaioshin Boo has absorbed seem to affect Boo’s power in strange ways. When Pure Evil Boo absorbed Good Boo, his power skyrocketed, much like it did when Pure Boo absorbed South Kaioshin. It should also be noted that Evil Boo’s power is far greater than Super Saiyan 3 Goku’s.
Chapter: 507 (DBZ 313), P12.4-5
Context: after Goku and Vegeta revert Boo back to regular evil Boo
Goku: “Hehhe~~eh! With this, Boo’s power should have fallen significantly! We’re almost there! See, see: the size of his ki is completely different than before!”
Vegeta: “Alright! Let’s blast out of here and escape!”
Goku: “Wait! Even though Boo has returned to normal a whole lot, we’re still simply no match for his strength! If we go outside like this, we’ll definitely be done in…!”
Ultimate Gohan: 600,000,000,000
Chapter: 498 (DBZ 304), P1.3, P2.4
Context: after Gohan beats up on Boo
Gohan: “You can’t win…”
[ ]
Gohan: “I see…So you tried testing your power just to be sure, and I really was above you…That’s too bad, Majin Boo.”
Tenshinhan: 720,000
Kibitoshin: 6,000,000,000
Chapter: 501 (DBZ 307), P11.2-4
Context: right after Kaioshin and Kibito merge
Kaioshin: “Oooh! Am-amazing! This is amazing power! Hahaah! [ ] Goku! I can fight too like this! I’ll go with you!”
Elder Kaioshin: “Don’t get carried away! No matter how strong you’ve become, you were never anything special. I doubt you could fight Boo head-on; you’d just end up getting absorbed. So stay here.”
Son Goku: 90,000,000
Vegeta: 90,000,000
Vegetto: 900,000,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 45,000,000,000,000
Elder Kaioshin notes that Vegetto is abnormally powerful.
Chapter: 504 (DBZ 310), P9.2-3
Context: as Vegetto beats up on Gohan-absorbed Boo
Kaioshin-Kibito: “H-he’s strong!!! Majin Boo there is helpless!!! To think that merging with the Potara would be this incredible…!!”
Elder Kaioshin: “Idiot, it’s because it was those two that they were able to go so far. Two of the top 3 masters in both the living world and afterlife have merged, after all. What’s more, two rivals have joined together. That’s definitely strongest.”
The anime shows base Vegetto going toe to toe with Evil Boo(Gohan Absorbed), so Vegetto should probably be around as strong as Boo.
The Orginal Boo!?
Pure(Kid) Boo: 36,000,000,000
Chapter: 507 (DBZ 313), P13.5
Context: as evil Boo reverts to his South Kaioshin form
Goku: “H-hey…Vegeta…His ki is increasing, ain’t it…!?”
Chapter: 508 (DBZ 314), P3.4-6
Context: after Boo reverts to his pure form
Goku: “…”
Vegeta: “……Heh…Heheheh…Look! He’s shrunk down quite a bit!”
Goku: “We did it! This way, we might be able to manage something.”
Bibbidi: 2
Son Goku: 90,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 9,000,000,000
-Super Saiyan 3: 36,000,000,000
Vegeta: 90,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 9,000,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2 (Enraged): 11,250,000,000
Mr. Satan: 7.8
Mr. Boo: 12,000,000,000
Super Genki Dama: 50,000,000,000
Chapter: 516 (DBZ 322), P8.5-6
Context: people on Namek and in the afterlife watch Boo stall the Genki-Dama
Elder Kaioshin: “Th-this is bad. Ma-maybe that ‘Genki-Dama’ thing st-still doesn’t have enough power…”
Dende: “Th-that can’t be…! We-we already used our ki…”
Enma Daio: “Ha-hang in there, Son Goku…! Th-that Genki-Dama has power from us here in the afterlife in it too…!”
Regarding the strength of the Genki Dama, Goku notes that Vegeta’s energy wasn’t fully restored upon being revived. One can assume the same applies to Gohan and the others, which is why their energy alone wasn’t enough to destroy Boo.
Chapter: 515 (DBZ 321), P5.3
Context: after Vegeta says he’ll hold off Boo again, so Goku can prepare the Genki-Dama
Goku: “You’ll sta-stall for time?…Yo-you’ve just been restored to life. Your ki still ain’t full, is it?!”
The 28th Tenkaichi Budokai
Son Goku: ???
Vegeta: ???
10 years have passed with no real way of discerning how strong Goku and Vegeta have gotten over the years. Probably superior Super Saiyan 3.
Trunks: 90,000,000
Goten: 90,000,000
Chapter: 519 (DBZ 325), P1.3
Goten: “Th-that can’t be! How can I go up against Boo right in the first round?!”
Goku: “It’s only a problem because you keep slacking off in your training.”
Pan: 9,000,000
Chapter: 518 (DBZ 324), P4.1
Goku: “She won’t be able to win the tournament, I suppose, but she should definitely be able to go pretty far. Right now, Pan is the one in our family with the most guts!”
Pan: “Yeah!”
Mr. Satan: 7
Mr. Boo: 12,000,000,000
Oob: 36,000,000,000
Since Oob is the reincarnation of Pure Boo, his potential should be equal to Pure Boo’s. Goku notes that Oob may be stronger than even Good Boo, so it’s possible that Oob is already as strong as Pure Boo. Goku states later than he was incredible as he expected, so it’s likely he is as strong as Pure Boo when his anger is pushed to its limit.
Chapter: 518 (DBZ 324), P6.5
Goku: “…But someone besides us and Boo might win.”
Satan: “Hahhahhah, now really! There’s no way that could happen, right?”
Chapter: 519 (DBZ 325), P12.2-5
Context: Oob is surprised by Goku’s Bukujutsu
Goku: “Oh, I see. You still don’t even know how to fly, huh? …I guess there ain’t no helping it. You haven’t had no teacher, and you probably never even considered things like that. Sorry I bad-mouthed you before. Please forgive me. I just wanted to know your true ability. You’re exactly the person I thought you were. As amazin’ as I expected. But you don’t know how to use your power. This is the first time you’ve fought like this, right? I've got it! From now on I'll live with you at your house and teach you!”
The End[/spoiler]
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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
GreatSaiyaman123 wrote:Nappa is too high and too low. I doubt his power at the Z Fighters was 4k, since he struggled to deflect Gohan's Masenko (Which should be higher than Piccolo) and his full power can keep up with Goku pretty well after he calmed down.Chickenchaser wrote:Eem... so this is my Battle Powers for dragonball Z Feel Free to critique.
Dragonball Z Sagas
Saiyan Arc
[spoiler]Goku's Older Brother!?
Raditz: 1,500
-Initial: 1,200
Farmer: 5
Son Goku: 334
-W/o Weights: 416
-Kamehameha: 924
Piccolo: 322
-W/o Weights: 408
--Makankosappo: 1,330 - 1,480
Son Gohan: 1
-Upset: 710
--Enraged: 1,307
Kame-sennin: 139
Kuririn: 206
Umigame: 0.001
Yamcha: 177
Tenshinhan: 250
Chaozu: 122
Yajirobe: 185
Enma Daio: 2,000
Kaio: 3,500
The Saiyans Finally Arrive
Piccolo: 1,220
-Full Power: 3,500
Son Gohan: 981
-Enraged: 2,800
-Zenkai: 1,250
--Oozaru (Injured): 4,500
Yamcha: 1,480
Tenshinhan: 1,830
Chaozu: 610
Yajirobe: 970
Saibaimen: 1,200
Nappa: 4,000
-Full Power: 4,800
Number 4,000 is taken from Daizenshuu 7 and I'm put Nappa Full Power Lower than 5,000 but slighty higer than 4,000, because he is Power Up.
Son Goku: 8,000
-Suppressed: 5,000
--Kaio-ken: 16,000
-Kaio-ken x3: 24,000
-Kaio-ken x4: 32,000
Vegeta: 18,000
-Fatigued: 12,000
--Oozaru (Post Powerball): 80,000
-Injured: 2,000
Genki Dama: 130,000
-Weakened: 6,500[/spoiler]
Freeza Arc
[spoiler]Let's Go Namek!!
Kuririn: 1,800
-Potential Unlocked: 7,000
Son Gohan: 1,500
-Potential Unlocked: 8,000
Vegeta: 24,000
-Zenkai: 30,000
Chapter: 249 (DBZ 55), P3.2-6, P4.1-2
Context: Freeza, Zarbon and Dodoria discuss Vegeta's battle power as he powers up against Kui. Zarbon's scouter had exploded.
Zarbon: "I... I think it's a malfunction, but... My scouter was set on Vegeta, and as the figures surpassed twe... 22,000..."
Dodoria: "It's definitely a malfunction! Your scouter's an old model, after all. I'll check out the correct figure off mine..."
Zarbon: "What's the figure...?"
Dodoria: "Th... that's impossible... Is my new model malfunctioning too...?! It's risen to up to twe... 24,000... !!"
Zarbon: "24,000...?! Are you saying it's higher than o... our own battle powers...?!"
Dodoria: "Th... this can't be...!! H... his battle power was barely 18,000..."
Freeza: "That shouldn't be a surprise. It's all because Vegeta's been ceaselessly fighting on the front lines. Perhaps he's caught on to something new on Earth. It's merely 24,000. That's a figure that you two would be more than able to win against if you fought together, is it not? Fufufu..."
Chapter: 275 (DBZ 81), P4.2
Context: Vegeta powers up to fight Reacoom.
Jheese: "Hey, hey, Vegeta's battle power has risen up close to 30,000!"
Kui: 18,000
Namekian Warriors: 3,000
-Suppressed: 1,000
Dodoria: 22,000
Zarbon: 23,000
-Transformed: 28,000
The Ginyu Force!
Son Gohan: 14,000
-Zenkai: 26,000
Kuririn: 13,000
-Potential Increasing: 23,000+
Vegeta: 30,000
-Zenkai: 120,000
I'm giving Vegeta (After Reacoom fight) Battle power of 120,000 because i think 250,000 is too high.
Chapter: 289 (DBZ 95), P6.1-2
Context: after Jheese freaks out over Vegeta's new battle power
Vegeta: “That’s right…I’ve surpassed Saiyan limits, and my strength is still increasing more and more…The truth is that I’ve realized it too…That this extension of my power isn’t merely what you’d call giftedness…In other words…I’m steadily drawing near…to becoming a Super Saiyan!”
Gurd: 5,000
Chapter: 273 (DBZ 79), P2.6
Kuririn: “Th…that one…He’s the only one who’s nothing special…Wh-what’s he doing mixed in with those guys…?!”
Reacoom: 40,000
Jheese: 40,000
Butta: 40,000
These 3 are noted to be more or less on par with one another. Ginyu also notes that a person with a battle power of 60,000 should easily be able to dispatch of these 3.
Chapter: 281 (DBZ 87), P11.1
Context: Gohan doesn't think Jheese and Burta are that strong
Kuririn: "Th...that shouldn't be... Th...those guys have about the same amount of ki as th...that Reacoom guy, and not even Vegeta could do anything against him...But Goku's too strong, so those guys don't look like anything special..."
Gohan: "I... I suppose... But father's ki is a lot smaller than theirs..."
Chapter: 283 (DBZ 89), P11.1-3
Ginyu: "In my estimation, his ability looks like it's about 60,000."
Jheese: "Six... 60,000!? H-he's a Saiyan!! Whoever heard of a Saiyan at 60,000...?!!"
Ginyu: “It’s not impossible. He could be like us, a super-gifted warrior, born with a mutation…Looks like this will be an unprecedentedly entertaining battle…I never thought the time would come for me to show my true power.”
Son Goku: 90,000
-Suppressed: 5,000
-Ginyu Estimate: 60,000
--Kaio-ken: 180,000
Chapter: 285 (DBZ 91), P1.2-3, P2.2
Context: as Goku continues to use the Kaio-ken
Ginyu: "Twe... 120,000... 130,000... 140,000... It's sti... sti... still rising... !!!! It... it can't be... 160,000... "Eigh... 180,000...?! Un...unbelievable...Th-this is your true power...?!!"
Captain Ginyu: 120,000
-Goku's Body: 23,000+
Chapter: 285 (DBZ 91), P3.1
Jheese: "Even Ca... Captain Ginyu's highest figure is 120,000..."
Chapter: 288 (DBZ 94), P13.2-4
Context: Ginyu powers up in Goku’s body
Ginyu: "Guhahahahaha...!!!! Jheese!! How much is my battle power?!"
Jheese: ".....Twe... 23,000...."
Ginyu: “Twe…23,000…only 23,000…!?”
Nail: 42,000
Chapter: 286 (DBZ 92), P5.1-2
Context: Nail powers up for Freeza
Freeza: "Hoh! This is incredible! Your battle power has risen to 42,000. I see, you truly do seem to be completely different than all the Namekians up to now. I'm surprised...This is a magnificent battle power! I can see why you're called a Warrior-type. It's enough to make me want you for an underling."
Freeza (50%): 265,000
Chapter: 286 (DBZ 92), P5.4
Freeza: "My battle power is 530,000. But of course, I don't intend to fight you at full power, so you can relax..."
The Legendary Super Saiyan
Vegeta: 480,000
-Zenkai: 2,400,000
Kuririn: 75,000
Son Gohan: 200,000
-Enraged: 800,000
--Zenkai: 400,000
-Enraged: 1,600,000
Chapter: 299 (DBZ 105), P13.1
Context: after Gohan is healed by Dende
Vegeta: “Heh…Just as you’d expect of someone with Saiyan blood, after reviving his battle power has greatly risen…A-alright! Luck is turning our way just a little bit…
Freeza: 530,000
-First Transformation: 1,060,000
--Full Power: 1,200,000
-Second Transformation: 1,800,000
--Final Form: 3,000,000
-50%: 60,000,000
-100%: 120,000,000
Freeza’s second form is stated to have a battle power that exceeds 1 million. After powering up, he is able to gain the upper hand on Piccolo. After Piccolo removes his weighted clothing, Freeza ascends to his third form, which surpasses Piccolo’s full power. After an angry Gohan pressures Freez’s third form, Freeza ascends to his final form, and easily defeats a renewed Vegeta, but has a hard time against a renewed Goku. After warming up for a bit, Freeza decides to showcase 50% of his power, and this 60 million figure is taken from the Daizenshuu 7. After Goku turns into a Super Saiyan, Freeza decides to go all out. His 120 million figure is also taken from the Daizenshuu 7.
Piccolo(W/ weights): 56,250
-Merged With Nail: 1,125,000
-W/o Weights: 1,350,000
Piccolo has gotten a lot stronger after training on Kaio’s planet. Nail even seems to imply that Piccolo is stronger than he is. After merging with Nail, he is able to go toe to toe with Freeza in his second form.
Chapter: 295 (DBZ 101), P1.4, P2.1-5, P3.1
Nail: “I-I’m astonished…I don’t know what kind of training you’ve done, but you’ve acquired unbelievable power…Still, it’s unfortunate…If you had only returned to the original, single Namekian you were, you might have been able to defeat even Freeza…”
Piccolo: “Are you saying that if I merged with God once again, my power would even surpass Freeza!?”
Nail: “Th-that’s right…I was overwhelmingly defeated by Freeza, but I should have a good comprehension of his abilities…[ ] So merge with me…! I’m also the only fighting-type Namekian on this planet…[ ] That’s right…Your power will become many times greater…”
Piccolo: “…You’re not lying, are you?”
Nail: “If you think so, you can just go get killed by Freeza…”
Son Goku: 3,000,000
-Kaio-ken x10: 30,000,000
--Kaio-ken x20: 60,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 150,000,000
Large Genki Dama: 75,000,000
Freeza was unable hold the Large Genki Dama back, so one can assume its power is greater than that of Freeza’s when at half strength.[/spoiler]
Cell Arc
[spoiler]The Mysterious Youth
Mecha Freeza: 160,000,000
-Suppressed: 4,000,000
Freeza is now stronger than he was on Namek thanks to his cybernetic enhancements. Due to his confidence, I assume he’s stronger than Super Saiyan Goku was on Namek.
Chapter: 330 (DBZ 136), P13.3-4
Cold: "The Earthlings don't matter, but the Super Saiyan alone we absolutely must exterminate, by any means. The one who holds the greatest power in the universe must without a doubt be our clan"
Freeza: "We can definitely defeat him if we go at him together, Papa. And I've powered up too, so I think I can probably go alone."
When Yamcha senses Freeza’s power, Gohan states that he can get much stronger. Freeza never seems to power up prior to his death, so I assume he was suppressed while taking on Trunks.
Chapter: 330 (DBZ 136), P9.7
Yamcha: “So this guy called ‘Fr…Freeza’ has such terrible…ab…absurdly large ki…?”
Gohan: “This isn’t it…he gets much, much stronger…!”
King Cold: 100,000,000
Vegeta: 3,200,000
Piccolo(W/ weights): 2,250,000
Son Gohan: 400,000
Kuririn: 100,000
Tenshinhan: 72,000
Yamcha: 48,000
Future Trunks: 3,600,000
-Super Saiyan: 180,000,000
--Super Saiyan (Holding Back Against Goku): 90,000,000
Since Trunks took out a stronger Freeza, one can assume Trunks is stronger than Goku was on Namek. Granted, Freeza seemed to be suppressed even up to his death, but Trunks was confident he could take out Freeza at full power.
Chapter: 331 (DBZ 137), P9.1
Context: challenging Freeza and Cold
Trunks: “Come at me at full power right from the start. I’m not soft like Son Goku…”
Son Goku: 4,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 200,000,000
After battle with freeza goku's got a zenkai (1.33x).
Chapter: 334 (DBZ 140), P13.3-5
Context: after Trunks and Goku fight
Trunks: “As expected, the rumors were true. No, you’re even greater…This was the sword that cut even Freeza…”
Goku: “You weren’t serious, after all.”
The Artificial Humans Are Released
Son Goku: 6,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 300,000,000
--Super Saiyan (Heart Virus): 100,000,000-
Piccolo: 225,000,000
-W/ weights: 187,500,000
--Merged With Kami: 375,000,000
-W/o weights: 450,000,000
Piccolo seems to have gotten a substantial boost by training with Super Saiyan Goku. When Piccolo was fighting Dr. Gero, Kuririn notes that Piccolo’s power has become comparable to a Super Saiyan.
Chapter: 346 (DBZ 152), P12.4
Kuririn: “He’s st-strong…! What kind of training did Piccolo do…And he’s not even a Su-Super Saiyan…”
After merging with God, Piccolo becomes twice as strong, since he’s reunited with his other half.
Son Gohan: 3,000,000
Kuririn: 1,000,000
Tenshinhan: 360,000
Yamcha: 240,000
Vegeta: 6,400,000
-Super Saiyan: 320,000,000
Chapter: 345 (DBZ 151), P6.1-2
Context: after Vegeta scares No.20 away with a bluff
Piccolo: "He really had lost a lot of stamina...when he confirmed that the Artificial Humans sucked out energy with the palms of their hands...He ought to have lost if he had fought that No.20 guy...But he talked as if he still had something up his sleeve...Vegeta really is a fighting genius...He might have sur-surpassed...Goku..."
Trunks: 4,800,000
-Super Saiyan: 240,000,000
Android No. 19: 75,000,000
-Energy Absorbed: 225,000,000
Chapter: 341 (DBZ 147), P14.6
Context: after No.19 absorbs Goku’s attack
No.20: “Alright! No.19’s maximum power rating has greatly increased from what it was before! In contrast, Son Goku’s energy has fallen remarkably…!”
Android No.20: 100,000,000
-Energy Absorbed: 150,000,000
Chapter: 340 (DBZ 146), P14.1
Context: after Goku transforms into a Super Saiyan
No.20: “However, this isn’t anything great enough to give us reason to fear. It’s still within a level which even No.19 is more than capable of defeating, and naturally that goes for myself as well…”
Android No.18: 400,000,000
Chapter: 353 (DBZ 159), P10.2-4, P11.1
Context: after Vegeta continues to fight No.18
Vegeta: “This is really starting to annoy me. You act as if nothing’s happened…”
No.18: “I’m surprised. To think that a flesh-and-blood human could be so good, even if you are an alien. Is this man called ‘Son Goku’ even stronger?”
Vegeta: “Don’t kid yourself. He may have temporarily slipped by me, but now things have returned to normal and I should be on top again.”
No.18: “What? So you’re nothing special. Either of you.”
Chapter: 367 (DBZ 173), title page
Text box: “Her power is more suppressed than No.17's, but in the end she too is a failure who doesn't listen to orders.”
Android No.17: 450,000,000
Based on Piccolo’s battle with No. 17, it would appear that No. 17 is equal to Piccolo after he’s merged with God.
Cell: 360,000,000
Cell is strong enough to give a weighted Piccolo some trouble. Because of that, we can at least be sure he’s weaker than No. 17 at this point in the story.
Cell is Complete!
Piccolo: 450,000,000
Android No.17: 450,000,000
Android No.18: 400,000,000
Cell: 550,000,000
-Second Form: 800,000,000
--Full Power: 1,000,000,000
-Perfect Form (Suppressed): 1,600,000,000
Cell has grown stronger by absorbing countless Earthlings. His power is equal to that of No. 16’s.
Chapter: 371 (DBZ 177), P6.4
Context: before No.16 goes to fight first form Cell
No.16: “According to my calculations, my power is about equal to Cell’s.”
After absorbing No. 17, Cell add’s his power to his own. Cell is suppressed when Vegeta shows up. Even after powering up, he’s still no match for Vegeta, however.
Chapter: 378 (DBZ 184), P7.3, P8.1
Context: after Vegeta beats up Cell more
Cell: “Seems you want me to get serious…”
Vegeta: “I thought you already were serious…”
Chapter: 378 (DBZ 184), P11.2, P11.4
Context: After Cell unleashes his full power
Vegeta: “Oh, your battle power really flew up there…But so what?”
Trunks: “…This is father’s victory.”
After absorbing No. 18, Cell’s power goes through a drastic change, being greater than the sum of his parts. Having both Artificial Humans absorbed likely triggered a reaction within Cell’s body, granting him a substantial power boost. He is suppressed when facing both Vegeta and Trunks, as it is revealed later that he can power up even further during the Cell Games.
Android No.16: 550,000,000
Tenshinhan: 360,000
-Shin Kikoho!: 720,000,000
Since Tenshinhan was able to keep Cell down, I’m pretty much forced to assume the Shin Kikoho’s power level is massive.
Vegeta: 18,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 900,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2nd Grade: 1,350,000,000
Trunks seems to imply that Super Saiyan Vegeta is already stronger than a suppressed Second Form Cell. I would assume he’s still inferior to Cell’s full power in his second form. After ascending to the second grade, his power eclipses Cell’s.
Chapter: 377 (DBZ 183), P3.1-2
Context: as Vegeta is about to fight second form Cell
Trunks: “Father intends to ‘become’ that right off the bat…! [Become] that…!”
Future Trunks: 17,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 850,000,000
--Super Saiyan 2nd Grade: 1,275,000,000
-Super Saiyan 3rd Grade: 1,700,000,000
Chapter: 379 (DBZ 185), P11.4
Context: Vegeta talks to second form Cell
Vegeta: “Heh. I’ll tell you something that will really shock you! There’s a guy named Trunks over there. He’s not as powerful as me, but we’re pretty close…!”
Cell also notes that Trunks’s power in his grade 3 form is superior to that of his in his suppressed state.
Chapter: 387 (DBZ 193), P1.3, P2.1-3
Context: as Trunks uses his Super Saiyan Grade III power
Trunks: “What you’re about to see now…is my true power!!!”
Cell: “I see…It truly is magnificent power…You easily surpass me…But you can’t win against me like that…Absolutely not…”
Super Saiyan Goku(Suppressed): 600,000,000
-Half Strength: 1,500,000,000
Super Saiyan Gohan(Suppressed): 700,000,000
Goku and Gohan in their suppressed states are clearly weaker than Vegeta and Trunks, since neither have realized they have been surpassed. Half of Goku’s strength was enough to surpass that of Vegeta’s grade 2 form, seeing as how Vegeta admitted is inferiority without even knowing that was only half of Goku’s power.
Chapter: 391 (DBZ 197), P10.4-5
Context: After powering up and almost destroying Karin’s tower…
Goku: “That just now was about half power. What do you think?”
Karin: “Half power…?! What a fearsome guy you are…How strong will you become before you’re satisfied…?!”
Chapter: 391 (DBZ 197), P13.1-2
Context: After sensing half of Full Power Super Saiyan Goku’s max power from a distance.
Vegeta (to self): “Damn you, Kakarot… It’s always like this… He’s always a step ahead of me…! It drives me crazy…Just when I think I’ve caught up, he widens the lead again…”
Cell Games
Vegeta: 36,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 1,800,000,000
We can be sure that Vegeta has surpassed the strength Goku displayed for Karin, since Vegeta was initially confident he was going to win the Cell Games.
Chapter: 395 (DBZ 201), P13.5
Context: after Goku says he’ll fight first Cell first
Vegeta: “Do what you want. Either way, I’ll be the one to finish this…”
Trunks: 35,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 1,750,000,000
Piccolo: 1,200,000,000
-W/ weights: 1,000,000,000
Chapter: 392 (DBZ 198), P13.1-5
Goku: “Hey… Piccolo! Did you go into the Room of Spirit and Time?”
Piccolo: “Indeed.”
Goku: “I can tell! You’ve risen to an entirely different level.”
Piccolo: “…Why don’t you just be frank with me? I’ve grown stronger, but even so, it won’t do any good against Cell…”
Goku: “…Yeah, it won’t do any good.”
Kuririn: 1,000,000
Tenshinhan: 360,000
Yamcha: 240,000
Mr. Satan: 8
Super Saiyan Goku: 3,000,000,000
-Half Strength: 1,500,000,000
Super Saiyan Gohan: 3,500,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2(Enraged): 8,750,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 7,000,000,000
Chapter: 402 (DBZ 208), P6.5, P7.1-6
Context: after Goku asks Gohan to be the next one to fight Cell
Piccolo: “Don’t talk crazy, Goku! There’s no way he’d be able to fight! It’s true that he’s raised his abilities so much that he’s unrecognizable, but his opponent is Cell, who even you were no match for!”
Goku: “Piccolo, Gohan has more unbelievable power than we think. Think about it. He’s fought the same as everyone since he was a little squirt…When I was about his age, I wasn’t anything special.”
Kuririn: “B-but even if he’s become a Super Saiyan…Th-this is so quick…”
Goku: “In the Room of Spirit and Time, the dormant power sealed away deep, deep inside him began to be released. Why don’t we try asking him? How about it, Gohan? Did you think that dad and Cell’s fight just now was too incredible and you couldn’t keep up?”
Gohan: “N-no, I didn’t think so…But neither of you were fighting all-out, right…!?”
Goku: “I don’t know about Cell, but I was going all-out. So in other words, to you it felt like I was holding back?”
Chapter: 404 (DBZ 210), P2.3-4
Context: after Gohan powers up
Vegeta: “That brat…How did he get such a gigantic battle power?…This is impossible…!”
Cell: “Looks like what Son Goku said wasn’t a complete bluff…But it seems he overstated things a little when he said you could defeat me…”
Perfect Cell: 4,800,000,000
-Suppressed: 3,200,000,000
--Super Perfect Form: 7,200,000,000
Cell Junior(s): 2,000,000,000
Chapter: 407 (DBZ 213), P5.3
Context: as the Cell Juniors beat everyone up
Cell (to Gohan): “If you don’t show your true worth soon, things will go past the point of no return. Look closely. Vegeta or Trunks are barely fighting evenly…Even Son Goku is in trouble, having lost his stamina…”[/spoiler]
Boo Arc
[spoiler]Great Saiyaman!
Son Gohan: ~60,000,000
-Super Saiyan: ~3,000,000,000
Chapter: 444 (DBZ 250), P7.1-4
Gohan: “Well, I’ve become a Super Saiyan. Now what? Is it alright if I fight like this?”
Kibito: “…Wh-what tremendous power…I can’t believe he’s a being of the lower world!”
Vegeta: “…Hmph…That bastard, he was far, far better when he killed Cell. It’s because he slacked off in his training during peacetime…”
Kaioshin: “…No, even so this is magnificent energy, more so than I imagined…I wonder if I’ll be able to stop this power…”
Goku: “…Stop it?”
Videl: ~9
Chapter: 424 (DBZ 230), P14.2
Context: as Videl easily beats up the big robber
Gohan: "Heh~~This is surprising! She really is pretty strong...She might just be stronger than Mister Satan."
Son Goten: ~30,000,000
-Super Saiyan: ~1,500,000,000
Trunks: ~35,000,000
-Super Saiyan: ~1,750,000,000
I feel a lot of people greatly underestimate what Goten and Trunks are capable of. I’ll go into greater detail regarding their strength in the 25th Tenkaichi Budokai section, but for now, Gohan states that he may be outstripped by Goten if he’s not careful. What’s more, Gohan states that Goten would make a good sparring partner, and during their sparring sessions, Goten was able to pressure Gohan. After Trunks is able to graze Vegeta, Vegeta asks Trunks who’s stronger between the two, and Trunks says he’s stronger. Goten also admits as much.
Chapter: 427 (DBZ 233), P12.3-6
Context: after Gohan and Goten spar a little bit
Gohan: “You’re very gifted at grappling too, Goten! You really surprised me! I hadn’t known you were that good! If you train well, maybe you’ll be able to enter the Tenkaichi Budoukai too!”
Goten: “Really!? But Trunks is even stronger than me. We play-fight together!”
Gohan: “Really!? That’s how you guys have been playing?...*thinking* If I’m not careful, I’ll be outstripped…by these little squirts…”
Chapter: 429 (DBZ 235), P8.7
Context: after Vegeta asks Trunks if he's stronger than Goten
Trunks: "I'm just a little bit stronger. Goten's 1 year young, and he still can't fly."
Vegeta: ~72,000,000
-Super Saiyan: ~3,600,000,000
Chapter: 426 (DBZ 232), P4.2-3
Context: Vegeta talks to Gohan
Vegeta: “At that time there was a large gap between our powers…But what about now? While you’ve been enjoying peace, I’ve continued to train.”
The 25th Tenkaichi Budokai
Son Gohan: 60,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 3,000,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2 : 6,000,000,000
Videl: 9
Son Goten: 30,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 1,500,000,000
Trunks: 35,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 1,750,000,000
During the battle between No. 18 and Goten and Trunks disguised as Mighty Mask, Super Saiyan Trunks fires a Kiai cannon at No. 18. Trunks states he was holding back when he fired his attack, and No. 18 was completely blown away by how strong his attack was. With all of this in mind we can be sure that a suppressed Super Saiyan Trunks is stronger than No. 18. Movie 11 gives greater credence to that notion.
Chapter: 453 (DBZ 259), P9.2-7
Context: as Trunks and Goten fight No.18 in their Mighty Mask costume
No.18: “…He really is a weird bastard…His arms and legs are extremely small for his body…And he’s so unusually strong…”
*they become Super Saiyans*
No.18: “!!”
Trunks: “Either way, we’re at a disadvantage in this getup, so we’ve got no choice but to settle this with a kiai cannon!”
Goten: “Eh! But will she be alright?...”
Trunks: “Don’t worry, she won’t die if we do it appropriately. She’s No.18…”
Chapter: 453 (DBZ 259), P10.1-2
Context: as Trunks turns Super Saiyan and prepares to fire a ki blast at No.18
No.18: “…I see…Super Saiyan, huh?...I finally know your identity, boys…”
Goten: “Don’t do it at full force!”
Trunks: “I know, I know!”
Chapter: 453 (DBZ 259), P12.4, P13.1
Context: after Trunks’ ki blast explodes
No.18: “Yo-you’ve got to be kidding…That energy bullet had absolutely incredible speed and destructive power…Co-could it be that those squirts have outrageous power?…This is dangerous! I’ve got to settle this fight soon!”
Vegeta: 72,000,000
Son Goku(Suppressed): 75,000,000
Piccolo(W/ weights): 1,500,000,000
Kuririn: 1,000,000
Yamcha: 220,000
Android No.18: 400,000,000
Spopovitch: 26
Yamu: 26
Chapter: 441 (DBZ 247), P12.2-5
Kuririn: “Th-that bastard, he [fired] a ki wave…though it didn’t have that much ki power…!”
Vegeta: “No…He’d lose if he killed her. He purposefully fired a weak one…”
Goku: “…It seems like he has power far surpassing his own abilities…I don’t get it…What’s going on?...”
Kibito: 60,000,000
The Daizenshuu 7 states that kibito would be able to give gohan a good fight, as long as goan isn't a super saiyan.
Kaioshin: 2,400,000,000
Piccolo implies that Kaioshin’s power is on a whole different level than his own.
Chapter: 439 (DBZ 245), P12.3-4
Context: after Piccolo resigns from his and Kaioshin's match
Goku: “That much, Piccolo?...”
Piccolo: “Yeah…Our dimensions…are too different…”
Kuririn: “Yo-you’re kidding, right? Stop joking around! I-I’ve got to fight him next.”
The Evil Wizard, Babbidi
Vegeta: 72,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 3,600,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 7,200,000,000
--Demon Prince (SSJ2): 9,000,000,000
Chapter: 458 (DBZ 264), P8.1-4, P9.4
Context: as Goku and Vegeta are about to fight
Goku: “I don’t wanna take any damage from you and have it become Majin Boo’s energy…So I’m gonna end this quickly, at maximum power.”
Vegeta: “I’m looking forward to this…Show me the fruits of your training in the afterlife. *Goku transforms into Super Saiyan 2* Just as I’d expect. Your power is greater than Gohan’s was back then!”
*Vegeta transforms into a Super Saiyan 2 as well*
Goku: “This don’t look like it’s gonna end quickly…
Son Goku: 90,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 4,500,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 9,000,000,000
Chapter: 458 (DBZ 264), P8.1-4, P9.4
Context: as Goku and Vegeta are about to fight
Goku: “I don’t wanna take any damage from you and have it become Majin Boo’s energy…So I’m gonna end this quickly, at maximum power.”
Vegeta: “I’m looking forward to this…Show me the fruits of your training in the afterlife. *Goku transforms into Super Saiyan 2* Just as I’d expect. Your power is greater than Gohan’s was back then!”
Son Gohan: 60,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 3,000,000,000
--Super Saiyan 2: 6,000,000,000
It is unclear whether or not Gohan was a Super Saiyan 2 when fighting Dabura. In the manga, Gohan didn’t display any attributes of the Super Saiyan 2 form, however, Goku states that Dabura is probably about as strong as Cell. If Gohan was a Super Saiyan, that wouldn’t make a lot of sense, as Cell powered up even further when fighting Super Saiyan 2 Gohan. The anime is a little more clear on the matter in that it provides extra dialogue implying Gohan was going all out. What’s more, Gohan definitely looked like a Super Saiyan 2 in the anime.
Chapter: 450 (DBZ 256), P2.5, P3.1-4
Context: after Kaioshin again warns against unleashing Boo
Vegeta: “Hmph…The way things are going, this ‘Majin Boo’ guy isn’t going to be anything special, is he? Just like that ‘Dabra’ jerk…[ ] I’m saying that this ‘Dabra’ guy doesn’t seem as bad as you two feared. Looking at his attacks and movement outside earlier, it seems that if we just watch out for his spit, then we should manage something. I can’t call Kibito anything but a bumbler for getting done-in like that…”
Kaioshin: “…Is-is that true, Son Goku?...”
Goku: “Yeah…Well, even if that wasn’t him at full force…I think that before he would have been a frightening opponent, but…7 years ago there was a guy called ‘Cell’…[Dabura]’s probably about as strong as him…”
Episode: 228
Gohan: “What on earth could his intention be?”
Vegeta: “It’s you whose intention I want to know! How could you fail to take down a guy of his level?! If you were even a paltry member of our fighting race, once you started a fight, you’d make sure to take your opponent’s last breath from them!! You’re all too soft!! Everyone of you, fighting behind the mask of justice--it disgusts me! It’s power that commands the fight! The strong are the only ones who survive, while the weak die! Power is everything!”
Gohan: “But--”
Vegeta: “Take a look at Piccolo and them! It’s only because they were weak that they were turned to stone! Hmph! They’re a disgrace!”
Gohan: “That’s right! If i’d only defeated Dabura, Piccolo-san and Kuririn-san would have been turned to normal…”
Goku: “Let it stand at that, Vegeta. Gohan did everything he could do, after all.”
Babbidi: 2
Pui Pui(Pocus): 144,000
Pui Pui was easily beaten by Vegeta, so it’s hard to say how strong he is. Since he thinks being able to move freely in 10 times gravity is impressive, I imagine he isn’t very strong.
Yakon: 80,000,000
-Light Absorbed: 1,200,000,000
Yakon seemed to be around as strong as base goku, perhaps a little weaker. Bobbidi notes that Yakon has 800 Kiris in comparison to Goku’s 3000 Kiris, according to Bobbidi’s energy measuring device. It should be noted, however, that 800 and 3,000 are numbers that are often used to symbolize an “enormous amount” in Japan, so I choose not to take these numbers at face value. That said, Bobbidi’s energy measuring device seems to cap at 3,000, so Super Saiyan Goku’s actually Kiri reading might be much higher than 3,000.
Chapter: 451 (DBZ 257), P3.1
Context: after Babidi measures Super Saiyan Goku's energy as 3,000 kiri
Babidi: "...Is this measuring device malfunctioning...? But if he really is 3,000 kiri... Then Yakon can't win against him... Yakon's energy is 800 kiri..."
Dabura: 3,000,000,000
-Full Power: 6,000,000,000
Dabura’s power is dependent on whether or not Gohan was a Super Saiyan 2. Goku notes that Dabura is stronger than he originally thought because of his use of magic.
Chapter: 455 (DBZ 261), P6.1-2
Context: as Dabura fights Gohan
Goku: “Magic, huh? He’s way stronger than I thought, ain’t he?”
Vegeta: “Hmph…Even so, he’s not an opponent [he? we?] can’t win against. [Gohan]’s so pathetic…So much so that he was stronger as a brat…”
Goku: “He really did slack off!”
Majin Boo is Resurrected
Demon Prince Vegeta: 9,000,000,000
-Final Atonement: 18,000,000,000
Majin Boo: 12,000,000,000
-Angry: 18,000,000,000
-Enraged: 36,000,000,000
It should be noted that Super Saiyan 2 Gohan’s energy was enough to fuel roughly half the energy required to revive Boo. As such, I think that Boo’s initial maximum is twice Super Saiyan 2 Gohan’s. The angrier Boo gets, the more power he has access to. When his anger reaches its limit, Boo splits.
Son Goku: 90,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 4,500,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 9,000,000,000
--Super Saiyan 3: 36,000,000,000
Goku ends up buying time for Trunks to find the Dragon Radar. Since Vegeta couldn’t beat Boo, Goku opts to use Super Saiyan 3. His power far surpasses Boo’s, but as the fight progresses, Boo’s power increases.
Son Goten: 30,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 1,500,000,000
Trunks: 35,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 1,750,000,000
Chapter: 468 (DBZ 274), P12.7
Piccolo: “These two are our only hope…! Th-though it’s a faint hope…”
When Goten and Trunks power up for Goku, Piccolo is completely taken back by how powerful they are, giving further credence to the notion that Goten and Trunks are much stronger than a lot of people think
Gotenks: 600,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 30,000,000,000
Goku states that Gotenks should be stronger than he is, however, it is revealed later that Goku was holding back during his battle with Boo, so it’s hard to say how Gotenks compares to Goku’s maximum. I personally don’t think he’s as strong.
Chapter: 476 (DBZ 282), P9.3
Piccolo: “If that bastard felt like it, he could wipe out the entire Earth, up here included, in the blink of an eye…!”
Goku: “It’s alright, I don’t think he’ll take out the Earth. After all, I told him that in 2 days, someone stronger than me would fight him, and he seemed happy…”
Chapter: 509 (DBZ 315), P11.4-6
Context: as Goku prepares to fight Boo
Goku: “Alrii~~iight. I’d better go all out right from the start…! If we get done in, then the entire universe will go ‘poof’…”
Vegeta: “Let me see this ‘Super Saiyan 3’ thing with my own eyes…”
Goku: “Is that alright? You just might not get your turn…I can say this now, but the truth is that with that fat Boo, I would have been able to defeat him at the time with Super Saiyan 3…However, I wanted the young guys to manage something…For the Earth’s sake too…”
After Super Saiyan Gotenks is formed for the first time, Piccolo states that Gotenks’s Ki is incredible. At no point does Piccolo second guess Goku’s predictions about Gotenks’s strength.
Chapter: 482 (DBZ 288), P7.2-3
Context: after Super Saiyan Gotenks forms for the first time
Piccolo: “…Yeah…Your ki really is absolutely incredible, but how about your movement?...Show me a little.”
Gotenks: “Is that alright? If I show you here, the house might break. I’ll do it on the ground.”
After Evil Boo is formed, it is implied that Gotenks could have taken the fat Majin Boo.
Chapter: 486 (DBZ 292), P2.2-6
Context: after Boo transforms into evil Boo
Piccolo: “…Have you noticed? …This change in Majin Boo’s ki…[ ] …He’s changed…All due to some idiotic Earthlings…He’s become pure evil, and his body has become more suited toward battle…Th-this…this…”
Kuririn: “Wha…What?...D-don’t tell me you’re saying this is bad!? …It’s al-alright! We’ve got the squirts’ Fusion! Goku said that right? That Fusion was the strongest…!”
Dende: “…”
Piccolo: “…That’d be nice, but…”
Chapter: 487 (DBZ 293), P13.5
Context: as Piccolo plans on having Goten and Trunks train in the Room of Spirit and Time
Piccolo: “Can’t you tell…?! As they are now, even if they perform Fusion they can’t win, no doubt about it…! Tell them that if they don’t want to die while they’re still just little brats, then they should train as much as they can…!”
Good Boo: 12,000,000,000
Pure Evil Boo: 24,000,000,000
The Mightiest Warrior!!
Son Goten: 45,000,000
Trunks: 45,000,000
Goten and Trunks have gotten significantly stronger thanks to training in the ROSAT.
Gotenks: 900,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 45,000,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 90,000,000,000
-Super Saiyan 3: 360,000,000,000
Gotenks’s power increased substantially after training in the ROSAT. I think that the build up Gotenks received was highly exaggerated though. Still, the Daizenshuu 7 states that Gotenks surpassed Majin Vegeta after training in the ROSAT. Since he was already stronger as a Super Saiyan prior to training in the ROSAT, one can only assume Gotenks’s base battle power is greater than Majin Vegeta’s. Seeing as how Gotenks can now turn Super Saiyan after fusing, he should be able to power up his base state with Super Saiyan energy like Goku did during the Ano Yo-Ichi Budokai
Chapter: 489 (DBZ 295), P3.5
Context: Trunks doesn't like the idea of fighting Boo as a Super Saiyan 3 from the start
Trunks: "I think...that we've already progressed so much that even in a regular state Fusion, we'll be about equal with Majin Boo..."
Chapter: 489 (DBZ 295), P11.5
Context: seeing Gotenks after he'd trained in the Room of Spirit and Time
Piccolo: "He-he really is different...! He really has greatly powered up...! Th-this just might...!"
Chapter: 489 (DBZ 295), P12.4-7
Context: Gotenks attacks Boo, to no effect
Boo: "May I attack now?"
Gotenks: "...Wa-wait a little bit...*thinking* ...Tha-that's strange...That should have effected him a decent amount, but...Hahha~~an! He's just pretending it didn't hurt him..."
Piccolo: "...Th-this may be hopeless..."
Super Boo: 360,000,000,000
-Gotenks Absorbed: 721,500,000,000
-Piccolo Absorbed: 361,500,000,000
-Gohan Absorbed: 961,590,000,000
Evil Boo’s power is comparable to that of Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks. The Kaioshin Boo has absorbed seem to affect Boo’s power in strange ways. When Pure Evil Boo absorbed Good Boo, his power skyrocketed, much like it did when Pure Boo absorbed South Kaioshin. It should also be noted that Evil Boo’s power is far greater than Super Saiyan 3 Goku’s.
Chapter: 507 (DBZ 313), P12.4-5
Context: after Goku and Vegeta revert Boo back to regular evil Boo
Goku: “Hehhe~~eh! With this, Boo’s power should have fallen significantly! We’re almost there! See, see: the size of his ki is completely different than before!”
Vegeta: “Alright! Let’s blast out of here and escape!”
Goku: “Wait! Even though Boo has returned to normal a whole lot, we’re still simply no match for his strength! If we go outside like this, we’ll definitely be done in…!”
Ultimate Gohan: 600,000,000,000
Chapter: 498 (DBZ 304), P1.3, P2.4
Context: after Gohan beats up on Boo
Gohan: “You can’t win…”
[ ]
Gohan: “I see…So you tried testing your power just to be sure, and I really was above you…That’s too bad, Majin Boo.”
Tenshinhan: 720,000
Kibitoshin: 6,000,000,000
Chapter: 501 (DBZ 307), P11.2-4
Context: right after Kaioshin and Kibito merge
Kaioshin: “Oooh! Am-amazing! This is amazing power! Hahaah! [ ] Goku! I can fight too like this! I’ll go with you!”
Elder Kaioshin: “Don’t get carried away! No matter how strong you’ve become, you were never anything special. I doubt you could fight Boo head-on; you’d just end up getting absorbed. So stay here.”
Son Goku: 90,000,000
Vegeta: 90,000,000
Vegetto: 900,000,000,000
-Super Saiyan: 45,000,000,000,000
Elder Kaioshin notes that Vegetto is abnormally powerful.
Chapter: 504 (DBZ 310), P9.2-3
Context: as Vegetto beats up on Gohan-absorbed Boo
Kaioshin-Kibito: “H-he’s strong!!! Majin Boo there is helpless!!! To think that merging with the Potara would be this incredible…!!”
Elder Kaioshin: “Idiot, it’s because it was those two that they were able to go so far. Two of the top 3 masters in both the living world and afterlife have merged, after all. What’s more, two rivals have joined together. That’s definitely strongest.”
The anime shows base Vegetto going toe to toe with Evil Boo(Gohan Absorbed), so Vegetto should probably be around as strong as Boo.
The Orginal Boo!?
Pure(Kid) Boo: 36,000,000,000
Chapter: 507 (DBZ 313), P13.5
Context: as evil Boo reverts to his South Kaioshin form
Goku: “H-hey…Vegeta…His ki is increasing, ain’t it…!?”
Chapter: 508 (DBZ 314), P3.4-6
Context: after Boo reverts to his pure form
Goku: “…”
Vegeta: “……Heh…Heheheh…Look! He’s shrunk down quite a bit!”
Goku: “We did it! This way, we might be able to manage something.”
Bibbidi: 2
Son Goku: 90,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 9,000,000,000
-Super Saiyan 3: 36,000,000,000
Vegeta: 90,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2: 9,000,000,000
-Super Saiyan 2 (Enraged): 11,250,000,000
Mr. Satan: 7.8
Mr. Boo: 12,000,000,000
Super Genki Dama: 50,000,000,000
Chapter: 516 (DBZ 322), P8.5-6
Context: people on Namek and in the afterlife watch Boo stall the Genki-Dama
Elder Kaioshin: “Th-this is bad. Ma-maybe that ‘Genki-Dama’ thing st-still doesn’t have enough power…”
Dende: “Th-that can’t be…! We-we already used our ki…”
Enma Daio: “Ha-hang in there, Son Goku…! Th-that Genki-Dama has power from us here in the afterlife in it too…!”
Regarding the strength of the Genki Dama, Goku notes that Vegeta’s energy wasn’t fully restored upon being revived. One can assume the same applies to Gohan and the others, which is why their energy alone wasn’t enough to destroy Boo.
Chapter: 515 (DBZ 321), P5.3
Context: after Vegeta says he’ll hold off Boo again, so Goku can prepare the Genki-Dama
Goku: “You’ll sta-stall for time?…Yo-you’ve just been restored to life. Your ki still ain’t full, is it?!”
The 28th Tenkaichi Budokai
Son Goku: ???
Vegeta: ???
10 years have passed with no real way of discerning how strong Goku and Vegeta have gotten over the years. Probably superior Super Saiyan 3.
Trunks: 90,000,000
Goten: 90,000,000
Chapter: 519 (DBZ 325), P1.3
Goten: “Th-that can’t be! How can I go up against Boo right in the first round?!”
Goku: “It’s only a problem because you keep slacking off in your training.”
Pan: 9,000,000
Chapter: 518 (DBZ 324), P4.1
Goku: “She won’t be able to win the tournament, I suppose, but she should definitely be able to go pretty far. Right now, Pan is the one in our family with the most guts!”
Pan: “Yeah!”
Mr. Satan: 7
Mr. Boo: 12,000,000,000
Oob: 36,000,000,000
Since Oob is the reincarnation of Pure Boo, his potential should be equal to Pure Boo’s. Goku notes that Oob may be stronger than even Good Boo, so it’s possible that Oob is already as strong as Pure Boo. Goku states later than he was incredible as he expected, so it’s likely he is as strong as Pure Boo when his anger is pushed to its limit.
Chapter: 518 (DBZ 324), P6.5
Goku: “…But someone besides us and Boo might win.”
Satan: “Hahhahhah, now really! There’s no way that could happen, right?”
Chapter: 519 (DBZ 325), P12.2-5
Context: Oob is surprised by Goku’s Bukujutsu
Goku: “Oh, I see. You still don’t even know how to fly, huh? …I guess there ain’t no helping it. You haven’t had no teacher, and you probably never even considered things like that. Sorry I bad-mouthed you before. Please forgive me. I just wanted to know your true ability. You’re exactly the person I thought you were. As amazin’ as I expected. But you don’t know how to use your power. This is the first time you’ve fought like this, right? I've got it! From now on I'll live with you at your house and teach you!”
The End[/spoiler]
Vegeta at 75% of the Ginyus is too much. You should or bump Vegeta to 32k, or lowball them to 36 or 37.5k. And Post Recoome Vegeta hoped Goku and Ginyu to kill each other fighting, what implies he can't beat Ginyu by his own.
Kuririn and Gohan are too low, they are supposed to be helpful against Freeza. I'd put them at 300k and 360k. Enraged Gohan is also too low, he ragdolled Freeza, but wasn't strong enough to kill him. Zenkai Gohan should also be stronger than Vegeta, since he was the only one to stand up against Freeza.
Freeza did a power up after recovering from Gohan's beatdown.
100% Freeza is too far from SSjin Goku, he fought pretty well until he runned out of stamina. A 20% gap is almost overkill, considering how badly Monster Zarbon trashed Vegeta. You also have more space to work with the Base Saiyans.
Trunks is too close from Mecha Freeza, he was so confident that he told him to power up. Lowball Freeza to 150 or bump Trunks and Goku.
Sick Goku is >> Yardrat Goku, Tenshinhan was in awe of his power and even noticed he was weakened.
20 post > 19 post. While Vegeta stated 19 wasn't as strong as the expected, Piccolo wondered if 20 was as strong as expected or not.
Post humans Cell's gap on Piccolo is too low. Piccolo's most powerful blast only pushed Cell back without
Perfect Cell Arc gaps are ridiculous. To make it simple:
50% SSjin Goku >=< SSjin Grade 3 Trunks >> Initial Perfect Cell = Warming up SSjin Goku* >>> SSjin Grade 2 Vegeta.
*Remember he powered down after showing his power to Korin, and everybody expected 50% to be his max. Kuririn even was like "Now the true fight begins" after Goku and Cell finished their warm up.
Goten and Trunks are too low. If Gohan is a 3,000; I'd give Trunks and Goten a 2,880 and 2,700.
Pocus is too low. He is one of the best fighters of the universe, and was supposed to be able to fill the tank. He also survived some hits from a Vegeta who couldn't sense his Ki.
Kibito is weaker than Gohan. Even though he's respectable to Gohan, he's definitely weaker. He couldn't lift the Z Sword.
Fat Buu = SSjin 3 Goku? Goku was holding back against Buu and later stated he could have beaten him. Kid Buu, who's equal to Goku, didn't have much trouble against Mr Buu. You could to something like this for Fat Buu:
Initial: 7.5 (Gohan thinks he can manage something if he gets mad, and Vegeta laughs of his power)
1st power up: 11.25 (Convinces Vegeta to team up with Goku)
2nd power up: 15 (Even bother to defend himself from Vegeta's attacks)
Full Power/Enraged: 30 (Holding back SSjin 3 Goku gives him a good fight)
If Gotenks can take Fat Buu, and Goku at least could hide his chances, then SSjin Gotenks > SSjin 3 Goku! It's crystal clear. And why you have Gotenks weaker than Buu?
I'm Put Nappa At 4,000 from the official Daizenshuu 7 power levels, and 4,800 because Nappa was surprised/horrified when vegeta read the battle power of 5000Nappa is too high and too low. I doubt his power at the Z Fighters was 4k, since he struggled to deflect Gohan's Masenko (Which should be higher than Piccolo) and his full power can keep up with Goku pretty well after he calmed down.
I know i might be too much, but Reacoom wasn't tired when he fight with Vegeta/Kuririn/Gohan + He (Reacoom) said the fight was Boring, hmm i didn't know that so what about 60k+(Vegeta after reacoom)?Vegeta at 75% of the Ginyus is too much. You should or bump Vegeta to 32k, or lowball them to 36 or 37.5k. And Post Recoome Vegeta hoped Goku and Ginyu to kill each other fighting, what implies he can't beat Ginyu by his own.
The Battle Power of 75,000(Kuririn) and 200,000(Son Gohan) is taken from 1990 issue of Weekly Shounen JumpKuririn and Gohan are too low, they are supposed to be helpful against Freeza. I'd put them at 300k and 360k. Enraged Gohan is also too low, he ragdolled Freeza, but wasn't strong enough to kill him. Zenkai Gohan should also be stronger than Vegeta, since he was the only one to stand up against Freeza.
I Know that even if i didn't add this in my battle power list i'm giving him power 1,080,000 - 1,095,000 (Still weaker than Piccolo).Freeza did a power up after recovering from Gohan's beatdown.
The 100% Freeza power is taken from Daizenshuu 7 + at the start when Goku got a SSJ i'm giving him a power between 120,000,000 - 135,000,000 at the climax of battle i'm Giving SSJ Goku a power of 150,000,000.100% Freeza is too far from SSjin Goku, he fought pretty well until he runned out of stamina. A 20% gap is almost overkill, considering how badly Monster Zarbon trashed Vegeta. You also have more space to work with the Base Saiyans.
The gap between SSJ F. Trunks(180,000,000) and Mecha Freeza(160,000,000) is the same as Freeza(1,200,000) and Piccolo(1,350,000).Trunks is too close from Mecha Freeza, he was so confident that he told him to power up. Lowball Freeza to 150 or bump Trunks and Goku.
A Power Level of 100,000,000- is goku after firing Kamehameha on Android No.19 at the start of the fight i'm giving (to SSJ Goku) 300 mil.Sick Goku is >> Yardrat Goku, Tenshinhan was in awe of his power and even noticed he was weakened.
Post Human's Cell is fairly strong but i dont think is higher than 1.25x the same gap of power is between Vegeta(2.4 Million) and Freeza(3 Million).Post humans Cell's gap on Piccolo is too low. Piccolo's most powerful blast only pushed Cell back without
SSJ 2nd Grade Trunks 1.7 Billion or 1.955 billion idk what is better. The scale is good i didn't notice when Goku's power down probably i must read 1 more time.Perfect Cell Arc gaps are ridiculous. To make it simple:
50% SSjin Goku >=< SSjin Grade 3 Trunks >> Initial Perfect Cell = Warming up SSjin Goku* >>> SSjin Grade 2 Vegeta.
*Remember he powered down after showing his power to Korin, and everybody expected 50% to be his max. Kuririn even was like "Now the true fight begins" after Goku and Cell finished their warm up.
I don't Think so SSJ Goten (1.5 Billion) is equal to 50% SSJ Gohan when goten only push back Gohan, at least i'm giving him 2.4 Billion.Goten and Trunks are too low. If Gohan is a 3,000; I'd give Trunks and Goten a 2,880 and 2,700.
The Pui Pui Power was very hard to calculate because we know he only live on planet in 10G Like Vegeta, and He also survived some hits from a Vegeta who couldnt sense his ki look at the manga/Anime Mr Popo he stopped SSJ Goten and Trunks with One armPocus is too low. He is one of the best fighters of the universe, and was supposed to be able to fill the tank. He also survived some hits from a Vegeta who couldn't sense his Ki.
Kibito is weaker than Gohan. Even though he's respectable to Gohan, he's definitely weaker. He couldn't lift the Z Sword.
Kibito is probably on the same level in battle power but in strength is weaker.
Fat Boo: 36 Billion = SSJ Goku he(Boo) has got that power when he goes to split in a Good Boo and Evil Boo.Fat Buu = SSjin 3 Goku? Goku was holding back against Buu and later stated he could have beaten him. Kid Buu, who's equal to Goku, didn't have much trouble against Mr Buu. You could to something like this for Fat Buu:
Initial: 7.5 (Gohan thinks he can manage something if he gets mad, and Vegeta laughs of his power)
1st power up: 11.25 (Convinces Vegeta to team up with Goku)
2nd power up: 15 (Even bother to defend himself from Vegeta's attacks)
Full Power/Enraged: 30 (Holding back SSjin 3 Goku gives him a good fight)
I have gotenks under boo (36B) becaouse he(Boo) has got that power when he goes to split in a Good Boo and Evil Boo.If Gotenks can take Fat Buu, and Goku at least could hide his chances, then SSjin Gotenks > SSjin 3 Goku! It's crystal clear. And why you have Gotenks weaker than Buu?
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I forgot to complain about Piccolo's power level, btw. He should be on pair with 50% Goku due to Trunks' reaction and the Cell Jrs fight. I already explained it above/on the last page.
Nappa already saw the earthlings suppressing their Ki, though. Nappa most likely though 5,000 was his suppressed state and got scared imagining what more he had on the tank.Chickenchaser wrote:I'm Put Nappa At 4,000 from the official Daizenshuu 7 power levels, and 4,800 because Nappa was surprised/horrified when vegeta read the battle power of 5000
Yeah, you're right. I forgot Recoome wasn't going all out. I still think the gap isn't that big, though. +60k sounds good, personally i use 80k.I know i might be too much, but Reacoom wasn't tired when he fight with Vegeta/Kuririn/Gohan + He (Reacoom) said the fight was Boring, hmm i didn't know that so what about 60k+(Vegeta after reacoom)?
Weekly Jump also stated Vegeta was 250k, but you didn't use this number. I don't think they would be useful if they were weaker than 50% Freeza, much less weaker than Ginyu.The Battle Power of 75,000(Kuririn) and 200,000(Son Gohan) is taken from 1990 issue of Weekly Shounen Jump
Sounds good.I Know that even if i didn't add this in my battle power list i'm giving him power 1,080,000 - 1,095,000 (Still weaker than Piccolo).
135 sounds better. You can say the 120 was him at the end of the fight, when Goku started to trash him.The 100% Freeza power is taken from Daizenshuu 7 + at the start when Goku got a SSJ i'm giving him a power between 120,000,000 - 135,000,000 at the climax of battle i'm Giving SSJ Goku a power of 150,000,000.
Which was a fair fight. Trunks was talking like Freeza was trash.The gap between SSJ F. Trunks(180,000,000) and Mecha Freeza(160,000,000) is the same as Freeza(1,200,000) and Piccolo(1,350,000).
Goku never used his full power while fighting 19. When Goku started to fight Piccolo noticed Goku wasn't going all out. But the power he used was still stronger than Yardrat Goku, since Tenshinhan was in awe of his power.A Power Level of 100,000,000- is goku after firing Kamehameha on Android No.19 at the start of the fight i'm giving (to SSJ Goku) 300 mil.
It should be this gap, though. Without any effort he completely trashed Piccolo and tanked his best blast.Post Human's Cell is fairly strong but i dont think is higher than 1.25x the same gap of power is between Vegeta(2.4 Million) and Freeza(3 Million).
1.955 billion is much better. The problem with the chain is that gets hard to have 50% Goku many times stronger than Grade 2 Vegeta and still have him weaker than Freeza.SSJ 2nd Grade Trunks 1.7 Billion or 1.955 billion idk what is better. The scale is good i didn't notice when Goku's power down probably i must read 1 more time.
Gohan struggled with the 10G on the Rosat and Trunks struggled with the 150G on the Buu Arc. Gravity doesn't correlate with power.The Pui Pui Power was very hard to calculate because we know he only live on planet in 10G Like Vegeta, and He also survived some hits from a Vegeta who couldnt sense his ki look at the manga/Anime Mr Popo he stopped SSJ Goten and Trunks with One arm.
Fat Boo: 36 Billion = SSJ Goku he(Boo) has got that power when he goes to split in a Good Boo and Evil Boo.
I'm not sure if Buu powered up to split. And Goku fought the Buu with 18 billions? They both had a pretty even fight, i doubt Goku was 2x stronger, even if he was holding back.I have gotenks under boo (36B) becaouse he(Boo) has got that power when he goes to split in a Good Boo and Evil Boo.
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GreatSaiyaman123 wrote:I forgot to complain about Piccolo's power level, btw. He should be on pair with 50% Goku due to Trunks' reaction and the Cell Jrs fight. I already explained it above/on the last page.
Nappa already saw the earthlings suppressing their Ki, though. Nappa most likely though 5,000 was his suppressed state and got scared imagining what more he had on the tank.Chickenchaser wrote:I'm Put Nappa At 4,000 from the official Daizenshuu 7 power levels, and 4,800 because Nappa was surprised/horrified when vegeta read the battle power of 5000
Yeah, you're right. I forgot Recoome wasn't going all out. I still think the gap isn't that big, though. +60k sounds good, personally i use 80k.I know i might be too much, but Reacoom wasn't tired when he fight with Vegeta/Kuririn/Gohan + He (Reacoom) said the fight was Boring, hmm i didn't know that so what about 60k+(Vegeta after reacoom)?
Weekly Jump also stated Vegeta was 250k, but you didn't use this number. I don't think they would be useful if they were weaker than 50% Freeza, much less weaker than Ginyu.The Battle Power of 75,000(Kuririn) and 200,000(Son Gohan) is taken from 1990 issue of Weekly Shounen Jump
Sounds good.I Know that even if i didn't add this in my battle power list i'm giving him power 1,080,000 - 1,095,000 (Still weaker than Piccolo).
The 100% Freeza power is taken from Daizenshuu 7 + at the start when Goku got a SSJ i'm giving him a power between 120,000,000 - 135,000,000 at the climax of battle i'm Giving SSJ Goku a power of 150,000,000.
135 sounds better. You can say the 120 was him at the end of the fight, when Goku started to trash him.
Which was a fair fight. Trunks was talking like Freeza was trash.The gap between SSJ F. Trunks(180,000,000) and Mecha Freeza(160,000,000) is the same as Freeza(1,200,000) and Piccolo(1,350,000).
Goku never used his full power while fighting 19. When Goku started to fight Piccolo noticed Goku wasn't going all out. But the power he used was still stronger than Yardrat Goku, since Tenshinhan was in awe of his power.A Power Level of 100,000,000- is goku after firing Kamehameha on Android No.19 at the start of the fight i'm giving (to SSJ Goku) 300 mil.
It should be this gap, though. Without any effort he completely trashed Piccolo and tanked his best blast.Post Human's Cell is fairly strong but i dont think is higher than 1.25x the same gap of power is between Vegeta(2.4 Million) and Freeza(3 Million).
1.955 billion is much better. The problem with the chain is that gets hard to have 50% Goku many times stronger than Grade 2 Vegeta and still have him weaker than Freeza.SSJ 2nd Grade Trunks 1.7 Billion or 1.955 billion idk what is better. The scale is good i didn't notice when Goku's power down probably i must read 1 more time.
Gohan struggled with the 10G on the Rosat and Trunks struggled with the 150G on the Buu Arc. Gravity doesn't correlate with power.The Pui Pui Power was very hard to calculate because we know he only live on planet in 10G Like Vegeta, and He also survived some hits from a Vegeta who couldnt sense his ki look at the manga/Anime Mr Popo he stopped SSJ Goten and Trunks with One arm.
Fat Boo: 36 Billion = SSJ Goku he(Boo) has got that power when he goes to split in a Good Boo and Evil Boo.I'm not sure if Buu powered up to split. And Goku fought the Buu with 18 billions? They both had a pretty even fight, i doubt Goku was 2x stronger, even if he was holding back.I have gotenks under boo (36B) becaouse he(Boo) has got that power when he goes to split in a Good Boo and Evil Boo.
I use x2 Jeice(40k) so Vegeta(80k)Yeah, you're right. I forgot Recoome wasn't going all out. I still think the gap isn't that big, though. +60k sounds good, personally i use 80k.
So what about Kuririn: ~150,000 and Son Gohan: ~300,000Weekly Jump also stated Vegeta was 250k, but you didn't use this number. I don't think they would be useful if they were weaker than 50% Freeza, much less weaker than Ginyu.
What About M.Freeza(160,000,000) and SSJ F.Trunks(200,000,000) + SSJ Goku Yardart(225,000,000)?Which was a fair fight. Trunks was talking like Freeza was trash.The gap between SSJ F. Trunks(180,000,000) and Mecha Freeza(160,000,000) is the same as Freeza(1,200,000) and Piccolo(1,350,000).
Sounds Pretty Accurate!A Power Level of 100,000,000- is goku after firing Kamehameha on Android No.19 at the start of the fight i'm giving (to SSJ Goku) 300 mil.
Goku never used his full power while fighting 19. When Goku started to fight Piccolo noticed Goku wasn't going all out. But the power he used was still stronger than Yardrat Goku, since Tenshinhan was in awe of his power.
The Pui Pui Power was very hard to calculate because we know he only live on planet in 10G Like Vegeta, and He also survived some hits from a Vegeta who couldnt sense his ki look at the manga/Anime Mr Popo he stopped SSJ Goten and Trunks with One arm.
Gohan struggled with the 10G on the Rosat and Trunks struggled with the 150G on the Buu Arc. Gravity doesn't correlate with power.
Hmm so what about (Pui Pui) Battle Power of 800,000 - 8,000,000? + I giving Gohan(When he first time in Rosat): 3,000,000 and Goten(pre-rosat): 30,000,000 and Trunks(Pre-rosat): 35,000,000
I think Majin Boo was power up Look At This Panels: Majin Boo Power up (1) Majin Boo Power Up (2)Fat Boo: 36 Billion = SSJ Goku he(Boo) has got that power when he goes to split in a Good Boo and Evil Boo.I have gotenks under boo (36B) becaouse he(Boo) has got that power when he goes to split in a Good Boo and Evil Boo.
I'm not sure if Buu powered up to split. And Goku fought the Buu with 18 billions? They both had a pretty even fight, i doubt Goku was 2x stronger, even if he was holding back.
SSJ3 Goku (Probably was Suppressed): 18 Billion+ but i'm add a battle power of 100% of SSJ3 (Goku) because i think he use Full Power. At least i'm giving (Holding Back SSJ3 Goku) 27 Billion and the lowest' at 19 Billions so i think the Majin Boo with a battle power 18B is pretty good. Thanks for correcting me.
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Actually they're someone else's. It's fine if his format inspired you or a lot of your numbers happened to be the same, but this topic IS in the fanworks section for a reason. Let's try not to copy other people's stuff in such a way without at least giving credit, okay?Chickenchaser wrote:Eem... so this is my Battle Powers for dragonball Z Feel Free to critique.
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Okay, and i have already change some levels from this list and maybe it's already 'Outdated'Kaboom wrote:Actually they're someone else's. It's fine if his format inspired you or a lot of your numbers happened to be the same, but this topic IS in the fanworks section for a reason. Let's try not to copy other people's stuff in such a way without at least giving credit, okay?Chickenchaser wrote:Eem... so this is my Battle Powers for dragonball Z Feel Free to critique.
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I've been trying to improve my Buu Arc levels, so here they are.
[spoiler]Great Saiyaman Saga
Gohan- 60,000,000
Super Saiyan Gohan- 3,000,000,000
Trunks- 40,000,100
Vegeta- 70,000,000
Goten- 40,000,000
Videl- 14
Goku- 80,000,000
Krillin- 4,563,000
Master Roshi- 139
#18- 480,000,000
Piccolo- 1,900,000,000
Super Saiyan Goten- 2,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Vegeta- 3,500,000,000
Super Saiyan Trunks- 2,000,005,000
Tournament Saga
Yamcha- 4,544,000
Goten vs Trunks
Goten- 50,000,000
Trunks- 50,000,100
Super Saiyan Goten- 2,500,000,000
Super Saiyan Trunks- 2,500,005,000
Round 1: Krillin vs Pintar
Krillin- 4,563,000
Pintar- 8
Round 2: Shin vs Majunior
Supreme Kai- 2,500,000,000
Piccolo- 1,900,000,000
Round 3: Videl vs Spopovich
Videl- 14
Spopovich- 10-20
Round 4: Kibito vs Great Saiyaman
Kibito- 30,000,000
Gohan- 70,000,000
Gohan Powering Up- 1,750,000,000
Super Saiyan Gohan- 3,500,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 Gohan- 7,000,000,000
Babidi Saga
Vegeta vs Pui Pui
Vegeta- 80,000,000
Pui Pui- 10,000,000
Goku vs Yakon
Goku- 100,000,000
Yakon- 100,000,000
Super Saiyan Goku- 5,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 Goku- 10,000,000,000
Battle Royale
Mr. Satan- 12
#18- 480,000,000
Mighty Mask (Trunks and Goten)- 40,000,000
Killa- 8
Jewel- 11
Super Saiyan Mighty Mask- 2,000,000,000
Gohan vs Dabura
Super Saiyan Gohan- 3,500,000,000
Dabura- 3,500,000,000
Goku vs Vegeta
Super Saiyan 2 Goku- 10,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 Majin Vegeta- 10,000,000,000
Gohan and Supreme Kai vs Majin Buu
Gohan- 70,000,000
Supreme Kai- 2,500,000,000
Super Saiyan Gohan- 3,500,000,000
Initial Fat Majin Buu- 6,500,000,000
Dabura- 3,500,000,000
Fat Majin Buu Powered Up- 13,000,000,000
Majin Buu Saga
Fat Majin Buu- 13,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 Majin Vegeta- 10,000,000,000
Fat Majin Buu Powered Up- 26,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Trunks- 2,500,005,000
Super Saiyan Goten- 2,500,000,000
Piccolo- 1,900,000,000
Goku- 100,000,000
Super Saiyan Goku- 5,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 Goku- 10,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 3 Goku- 30,000,000,000
Fat Majin Buu'- 26,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 3 Goku Full Power (Did not use against Buu)- 40,000,000,000
Gohan (Post-Z-Sword)- 100,000,000
Goten- 50,000,000
Trunks- 50,000,000 (Lowered to match Goten)
Gotenks- 1,000,000,000
Fusion Saga
Super Saiyan Goten- 2,500,000,000
Super Saiyan Trunks- 2,500,000,000
Super Saiyan Gotenks- 50,000,000,000
Fat Buu (No Evil)- 11,000,000,000
Evil Buu- 15,000,000,000
Super Buu- 750,000,000,000
Chiaotzu- 48,510
Goten- 100,000,000
Trunks- 100,000,000
Gotenks- 2,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Gotenks- 100,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 Gotenks- 200,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks- 800,000,000,000
Gohan- 100,000,000
Ultimate Gohan- 900,000,000,000
Super Buutenks- 950,000,000,000
Tien- 9,007,000
Kibito Kai- 40,000,000,000
Goku- 100,000,000
Super Saiyan 3 Goku- 30,000,000,000
Super Buuhan- 1,000,000,000,000
Vegeta- 100,000,000
Vegito- 200,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Vegito- 10,000,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Goku- 5,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Vegeta- 5,000,000,000
Kid Buu Saga
Kid Buu- 38,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Goku- 5,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Vegeta- 5,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 Goku- 8,000,000,000
Full Power Super Saiyan 3 Goku- 40,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 3 Goku- 30,000,000,000
Vegeta- 100,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta- 10,000,000,000
Fat Buu- 26,000,000,000
Goku's Spirit Bomb- 2,000,000,000,000; Super Spirit Bomb- 2,005,000,000,000[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Great Saiyaman Saga
Gohan- 60,000,000
Super Saiyan Gohan- 3,000,000,000
Trunks- 40,000,100
Vegeta- 70,000,000
Goten- 40,000,000
Videl- 14
Goku- 80,000,000
Krillin- 4,563,000
Master Roshi- 139
#18- 480,000,000
Piccolo- 1,900,000,000
Super Saiyan Goten- 2,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Vegeta- 3,500,000,000
Super Saiyan Trunks- 2,000,005,000
Tournament Saga
Yamcha- 4,544,000
Goten vs Trunks
Goten- 50,000,000
Trunks- 50,000,100
Super Saiyan Goten- 2,500,000,000
Super Saiyan Trunks- 2,500,005,000
Round 1: Krillin vs Pintar
Krillin- 4,563,000
Pintar- 8
Round 2: Shin vs Majunior
Supreme Kai- 2,500,000,000
Piccolo- 1,900,000,000
Round 3: Videl vs Spopovich
Videl- 14
Spopovich- 10-20
Round 4: Kibito vs Great Saiyaman
Kibito- 30,000,000
Gohan- 70,000,000
Gohan Powering Up- 1,750,000,000
Super Saiyan Gohan- 3,500,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 Gohan- 7,000,000,000
Babidi Saga
Vegeta vs Pui Pui
Vegeta- 80,000,000
Pui Pui- 10,000,000
Goku vs Yakon
Goku- 100,000,000
Yakon- 100,000,000
Super Saiyan Goku- 5,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 Goku- 10,000,000,000
Battle Royale
Mr. Satan- 12
#18- 480,000,000
Mighty Mask (Trunks and Goten)- 40,000,000
Killa- 8
Jewel- 11
Super Saiyan Mighty Mask- 2,000,000,000
Gohan vs Dabura
Super Saiyan Gohan- 3,500,000,000
Dabura- 3,500,000,000
Goku vs Vegeta
Super Saiyan 2 Goku- 10,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 Majin Vegeta- 10,000,000,000
Gohan and Supreme Kai vs Majin Buu
Gohan- 70,000,000
Supreme Kai- 2,500,000,000
Super Saiyan Gohan- 3,500,000,000
Initial Fat Majin Buu- 6,500,000,000
Dabura- 3,500,000,000
Fat Majin Buu Powered Up- 13,000,000,000
Majin Buu Saga
Fat Majin Buu- 13,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 Majin Vegeta- 10,000,000,000
Fat Majin Buu Powered Up- 26,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Trunks- 2,500,005,000
Super Saiyan Goten- 2,500,000,000
Piccolo- 1,900,000,000
Goku- 100,000,000
Super Saiyan Goku- 5,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 Goku- 10,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 3 Goku- 30,000,000,000
Fat Majin Buu'- 26,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 3 Goku Full Power (Did not use against Buu)- 40,000,000,000
Gohan (Post-Z-Sword)- 100,000,000
Goten- 50,000,000
Trunks- 50,000,000 (Lowered to match Goten)
Gotenks- 1,000,000,000
Fusion Saga
Super Saiyan Goten- 2,500,000,000
Super Saiyan Trunks- 2,500,000,000
Super Saiyan Gotenks- 50,000,000,000
Fat Buu (No Evil)- 11,000,000,000
Evil Buu- 15,000,000,000
Super Buu- 750,000,000,000
Chiaotzu- 48,510
Goten- 100,000,000
Trunks- 100,000,000
Gotenks- 2,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Gotenks- 100,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 Gotenks- 200,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks- 800,000,000,000
Gohan- 100,000,000
Ultimate Gohan- 900,000,000,000
Super Buutenks- 950,000,000,000
Tien- 9,007,000
Kibito Kai- 40,000,000,000
Goku- 100,000,000
Super Saiyan 3 Goku- 30,000,000,000
Super Buuhan- 1,000,000,000,000
Vegeta- 100,000,000
Vegito- 200,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Vegito- 10,000,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Goku- 5,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Vegeta- 5,000,000,000
Kid Buu Saga
Kid Buu- 38,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Goku- 5,000,000,000
Super Saiyan Vegeta- 5,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 Goku- 8,000,000,000
Full Power Super Saiyan 3 Goku- 40,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 3 Goku- 30,000,000,000
Vegeta- 100,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta- 10,000,000,000
Fat Buu- 26,000,000,000
Goku's Spirit Bomb- 2,000,000,000,000; Super Spirit Bomb- 2,005,000,000,000[/spoiler]
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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Your post relies on the assumption that Freeza>Base Goku is an indisputable fact. I would rather not get into a debate of any sorts but there are multiple reasons to not believe in that theory in the first place.Kaboom wrote:By official accounts, no, he is not.Noah wrote:Is Kibito way stronger than 100% FP Freeza (Namek)?
So... nope. According to the amalgamated official sources, Kibito and base Boo-arc Gohan are on roughly the same level, which is still much weaker than Freeza. Like DanielSSJ beat me to saying, I'd guess they're both around Freeza's 50% level at best.
- Even ~5 years after the Majin Boo arc, Goku without Super Saiyan still isn't as strong as Freeza (as said in Battle of Gods, Super).
- Back during the Boo arc, Gohan was noticeably weaker than both Goku and Vegeta, meaning his base form would be significantly weaker than 100% Freeza.
- Gohan notes that Kibito most likely isn't someone he can beat without using his true power, which would mean his full base-form power since he's still operating under the "no Super Saiyan" rule.
- Daizenhuu #7's character bio for Kibito removes any ambiguity around that last point, clarifying that Kibito's battle power is high enough to "give Gohan a difficult fight as long as he wasn't a Super Saiyan."
I've seen people find the Gohan-Kibito comparison a little fishy based on their attempts to lift the Z-Sword, but I just chalk that up to a big difference in physical strength. It's only Kibito's battle power, meaning his raw amount of ki, that's said to be similar to Gohan's. But Saiyans and even half-Saiyans are much more about brute strength, while Core-People like Kibito tend to stay on the more "mystical powers" side of things. So while their battle powers are similar, if Kibito's the weaker one even by a little, that could amount to a big difference between them in the physical strength department.
Gohan -- Ki: 100 / Strength: 120
Kibito -- Ki: 90 / Strength: 70
Something like that.