Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
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On top of what Daniel said, there's also Vegeta wanting Babidi to unlock his latent power even before he knew the full extension of Goku's power. He wasn't aware that Goku surpassed Gohan until Goku went all out on their fight, but he was still freaking out at Goku's power.
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So you're saying Vegeta knew he was largely outclassed by Goku before even realising that Goku was stronger than Gohan at the Cell Games?
By my own power level list I had Super Saiyan 2 Gohan at the Cell Games with a power level of 6.5 billion and then Super Saiyan 2 Goku and Super Saiyan 2 Majin Vegeta at 8.5 billion.
But now after reading all these comments and Piccolo's "perhaps" line, maybe it would be more accurate to bring them to just 7 billion?
By my own power level list I had Super Saiyan 2 Gohan at the Cell Games with a power level of 6.5 billion and then Super Saiyan 2 Goku and Super Saiyan 2 Majin Vegeta at 8.5 billion.
But now after reading all these comments and Piccolo's "perhaps" line, maybe it would be more accurate to bring them to just 7 billion?
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Not exactly largely outclassed. Just outclassed.
7 is too close, i think. Vegeta had no doubts Goku was stronger than Gohan. Vegeta's statements is there to confirm they're stronger, but Piccolo's is there to suggest it's not by a huge margin. If Gohan is a 6.5, i think Goku and Vegeta are a 7.2-7.5.
7 is too close, i think. Vegeta had no doubts Goku was stronger than Gohan. Vegeta's statements is there to confirm they're stronger, but Piccolo's is there to suggest it's not by a huge margin. If Gohan is a 6.5, i think Goku and Vegeta are a 7.2-7.5.
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Vegeta outclassed Zarbon despite each having a power level of 24,000 and 23,000 respectively. Wouldn’t that make 7 less close to 6.5 in comparison? It’s like comparing 14,000 and 13,000.GreatSaiyaman123 wrote:Not exactly largely outclassed. Just outclassed.
7 is too close, i think. Vegeta had no doubts Goku was stronger than Gohan. Vegeta's statements is there to confirm they're stronger, but Piccolo's is there to suggest it's not by a huge margin. If Gohan is a 6.5, i think Goku and Vegeta are a 7.2-7.5.
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Well supposedly Super Saiyan Goku was 150 million and Frieza was 120 million but that was even close than Vegeta and Zarbon so it isn't too consistent in that way.
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Vegeta outclassing Zarbon was more a matter of skill. Zarbon's probably been sitting on his ass without fighting for years, whereas Vegeta has been fighting numerous battles and learned Ki sensing, what is a huge advantage on fights.Hugo Boss wrote: Vegeta outclassed Zarbon despite each having a power level of 24,000 and 23,000 respectively. Wouldn’t that make 7 less close to 6.5 in comparison? It’s like comparing 14,000 and 13,000.
It's seems more like a matter of the Daizenshuu being inaccurate. Analizing only the manga, the gaps aren't perfect but are somewhat consistent.Bullza wrote:Well supposedly Super Saiyan Goku was 150 million and Frieza was 120 million but that was even close than Vegeta and Zarbon so it isn't too consistent in that way.
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Vegeta stated that he expected Goku to be stronger than Gohan when he transformed, so where is the idea coming from that he never realized that Goku had surpassed Gohan?
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He knew this ever since Goku powered up against Yakon where he used his SSJ2 power for a split second.
And when did perhaps ever mean that the powers compared were close? All perhaps means is uncertainty. That uncertainty existing because the powers are close is baseless. Accounting for the correct defintion Vegeta himself had no uncertainty, which invalidates the notion that the powers are so close that they can't be told apart.
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He knew this ever since Goku powered up against Yakon where he used his SSJ2 power for a split second.
And when did perhaps ever mean that the powers compared were close? All perhaps means is uncertainty. That uncertainty existing because the powers are close is baseless. Accounting for the correct defintion Vegeta himself had no uncertainty, which invalidates the notion that the powers are so close that they can't be told apart.
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The fact that Piccolo is uncertain if Vegeta surpassed kid Gohan means that they aren't miles apart. Nobody is saying that Gohan and Vegeta are neck and neck, just that Vegeta's not twice as strong or anything like that.supersaiyangodgogeta wrote:And when did perhaps ever mean that the powers compared were close? All perhaps means is uncertainty. That uncertainty existing because the powers are close is baseless. Accounting for the correct defintion Vegeta himself had no uncertainty, which invalidates the notion that the powers are so close that they can't be told apart.
And your Vegeta quote is no less vague than Piccolo's statement. All Vegeta says is "Your power is even higher than Gohan's was back then." "Back then" could mean a lot of things. It could mean "back then at the tournament when he saw his current max" or it could mean "back then when he killed Cell."
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That's a pretty disingenuous argument, it's clear from the context that he's referring to Gohan's Cell Games self. He already made it clear that he considered Gohan's current power completely unimpressive, and there's this exchange as well:DanielSSJ wrote:The fact that Piccolo is uncertain if Vegeta surpassed kid Gohan means that they aren't miles apart. Nobody is saying that Gohan and Vegeta are neck and neck, just that Vegeta's not twice as strong or anything like that.supersaiyangodgogeta wrote:And when did perhaps ever mean that the powers compared were close? All perhaps means is uncertainty. That uncertainty existing because the powers are close is baseless. Accounting for the correct defintion Vegeta himself had no uncertainty, which invalidates the notion that the powers are so close that they can't be told apart.
And your Vegeta quote is no less vague than Piccolo's statement. All Vegeta says is "Your power is even higher than Gohan's was back then." "Back then" could mean a lot of things. It could mean "back then at the tournament when he saw his current max" or it could mean "back then when he killed Cell."
Chapter: 426 (DBZ 232), P4.2-3
Context: Vegeta talks to Gohan
Vegeta: “At that time there was a large gap between our powers…But what about now? While you’ve been enjoying peace, I’ve continued to train.”
Bulma: “That’s right! He doesn’t work one bit! Just like your father! I guess Saiyans just don’t work.”
It's clear Vegeta uses the power Gohan displayed 7 years ago as a benchmark.
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No it doesn't. It says nothing in reference to the actual gap between the two since perhaps doesn't quantify anything by defintion. It just refers to something being possible.DanielSSJ wrote:The fact that Piccolo is uncertain if Vegeta surpassed kid Gohan means that they aren't miles apart.
Vegeta could be a million times stronger than Gohan and Piccolo's statement still wouldn't imply anything to the contrary. They could be close, they could not be. Nothing is said either way.
There's plenty of reasons why Piccolo wouldn't be sure even if the two weren't close.
You are. The current argument is that their powers are so close that Piccolo literally can't tell them apart, hence him "not knowing" if Gohan has been surpassed.Nobody is saying that Gohan and Vegeta are neck and neck, just that Vegeta's not twice as strong or anything like that.
If you want to twist the statement, then that's your prerogative. Pre-Majin Vegeta saw Gohan at the tournament and against Dabura and declared himself and Goku stronger than that Gohan.And your Vegeta quote is no less vague than Piccolo's statement. All Vegeta says is "Your power is even higher than Gohan's was back then." "Back then" could mean a lot of things. It could mean "back then at the tournament when he saw his current max" or it could mean "back then when he killed Cell."
So there's only one Gohan left to surpass and in the context of the story, that's Cell games Gohan.
The only thing you get from Piccolo's statement is that he's uncertain. Saying that he's uncertain being a result of the two being close in power was never stated.
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Like what?supersaiyangodgogeta wrote:There's plenty of reasons why Piccolo wouldn't be sure even if the two weren't close.
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Piccolo on Namek had trouble reading Goku and Frieza so two ssj2 powers should just feel big to him. Toriyama is trying to get the point across that the power that crushed Cell which is ssj2 is garbage to Buu.Analytic wrote:Like what?supersaiyangodgogeta wrote:There's plenty of reasons why Piccolo wouldn't be sure even if the two weren't close.
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But Goku and Freeza were about the same...miguelnuva1 wrote:Piccolo on Namek had trouble reading Goku and Frieza so two ssj2 powers should just feel big to him. Toriyama is trying to get the point across that the power that crushed Cell which is ssj2 is garbage to Buu.
You're right about Vegeta expecting Goku to be stronger than Gohan right off the bat... That did slip off my mind.supersaiyangodgogeta wrote:Vegeta stated that he expected Goku to be stronger than Gohan when he transformed, so where is the idea coming from that he never realized that Goku had surpassed Gohan?
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He knew this ever since Goku powered up against Yakon where he used his SSJ2 power for a split second.
And when did perhaps ever mean that the powers compared were close? All perhaps means is uncertainty. That uncertainty existing because the powers are close is baseless. Accounting for the correct defintion Vegeta himself had no uncertainty, which invalidates the notion that the powers are so close that they can't be told apart.
Piccolo is talking about Ki size and is uncertain whose is bigger, but he's leaning towards Vegeta. It's clear they were close to each other based on PIccolo's words. Most people (Including me) think Piccolo's uncertainess is a matter of his memory slightly fadding away a bit after 7 years (Dunno about you, but most people can't remember with 100% accurateness something that happened on 2011). Goku is definitely stronger than Gohan, but the fact he's not stronger by a huge margin (Vegeta even says he's "Stronger" instead of "Far stronger" or something similiar) makes harder to compare with a power Piccolo haven't sensed in seven years.
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Yes but then at 3 million were too big for Piccolo to tell how strong they were. If Goku and Vegeta were a 10 then I would say Gohan shouldn't be under a 9.GreatSaiyaman123 wrote:But Goku and Freeza were about the same.miguelnuva1 wrote:Piccolo on Namek had trouble reading Goku and Frieza so two ssj2 powers should just feel big to him. Toriyama is trying to get the point across that the power that crushed Cell which is ssj2 is garbage to Buu.
Think it like this if you saw two measuring cups of water you could tell how much water were in the two cups. Now if you see the Pacific and Alantic Ocean you know one is bigger but you can't give a number on how much one is bigger because it's too much water.
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Dunno if Ki sensing works like that. Korin and Kuririn could easily tell how strong Perfect Cell was and how he compared to Goku and Trunks.miguelnuva1 wrote: Yes but then at 3 million were too big for Piccolo to tell how strong they were. If Goku and Vegeta were a 10 then I would say Gohan shouldn't be under a 9.
Think it like this if you saw two measuring cups of water you could tell how much water were in the two cups. Now if you see the Pacific and Alantic Ocean you know one is bigger but you can't give a number on how much one is bigger because it's too much water.
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Korin hesitated a bit before stating Cell was probably stronger than Goku, so what miguelnuva1 says makes sense. In Krillin’s case, it seems that feeling the pain on your body gives a much better idea of how strong your opponent is.GreatSaiyaman123 wrote:Dunno if Ki sensing works like that. Korin and Kuririn could easily tell how strong Perfect Cell was and how he compared to Goku and Trunks.miguelnuva1 wrote: Yes but then at 3 million were too big for Piccolo to tell how strong they were. If Goku and Vegeta were a 10 then I would say Gohan shouldn't be under a 9.
Think it like this if you saw two measuring cups of water you could tell how much water were in the two cups. Now if you see the Pacific and Alantic Ocean you know one is bigger but you can't give a number on how much one is bigger because it's too much water.
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z and gt completly sucks. you dont know very much about gt, right?
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You mean about power levels?p-hyvo wrote:z and gt completly sucks. you dont know very much about gt, right?
Power levels are not just big numbers:
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Trunks Saga
Chiatzou: 9700
Yamcha: 42,000
Tien: 48,000
Krillin: 52,000
Vegeta: 3,300,000
Trunks(Suppressed): 5
Trunks: 4,200,000
Trunks SSJ: 210,000,000
Mecha Frieza: 185,000,000
King Cold: 70,000,000
Goku: 4,500,000
Goku SSJ: 225,000,000
Gohan(After Training): 900,000
Piccolo: 2,890,000
Goku(After Training): 10,050,000
Android 19: 92,000,000
Android 20: 12,750,000
Goku(Heart Virus): 8,900,000
Goku SSJ(Heart Virus Growing): 92,240,000
Android 19(Kamehameha Absorbed): 95,000,000
Goku SSJ(Heart Virus Severe): 10,000,000
Goku(Extreme Heart Virus): 1,500
Vegeta: 9,000,000
Vegeta SSJ: 450,000,000
Android 19(Energy Absorbed): 135,000,000
Android 18: 500,000,000
Android 17: 510,000,000
Cell 1st form: 425,000,000
Piccolo(Pre Kami Merge): 512,000,000
Cell(Pre absorbing): 565,000,000
Android 16: 564,950,000
Cell 2nd Form: 890,000,000
Vegeta(Pre HTC): 30,000,000
Super Vegeta: 1,650,000,000
Trunks(Pre HTC): 31,000,000
Trunks SSJ Grade III: 1,860,000,000
Perfect Cell(Suppressed): 2,450,000,000
Perfect Cell Buff(Suppressed): 3,000,000,000
Goku(Pre HTC): 86,000,000
Gohan(Pre HTC): 82,000,000
Goku MSSJ: 8,000,000,000
Perfect Cell(Suppressed Aganist Goku): 8,750,000,000
Goku MSSJ(FP): 8,750,000,000
Gohan MSSJ: 4,100,000,000
Gohan SSJ2(Enraged): 44,900,000,000
Perfect Cell(Full Power): 24,000,000,000
Perfect Cell(Buff): 42,000,000,000
Cell Junior: 6,000,000,000
Super Perfect Cell: 45,000,000,000
Vegeta(Enraged): 1,700,000,000,000
Just kidding, this isn't MY BULMA!!!
Vegeta(Enraged): 2,450,000,000
Gohan(Super Kamehameha): 47,995,000,000
SP Cell(Perfect Kamehameha): 48,000,000,000
Gohan SSJ2(Maximum Power): 49,000,000,000
BUU SAGA (7 YEAR GAP)
Gohan: 26,000,000
Goten: 4,500,000
Gohan SSJ: 1,300,000,000
Goten SSJ: 225,000,000
Vegeta: 470,000,000
Trunks: 4,550,000
Vegeta SSJ: 23,500,000,000
Trunks SSJ: 227,500,000
Videl: 25
Hercule: 22
Goku(Intense Training) 510,000,000
Spopovitch: 42
Supereme Kai: 8,570,000,000
Kibito: 420,000,000
Pui Pui: 30,000
Yakon: 21,790,000,000
Babidi: 3.5
Dabura: 12,000,000,000
Goku SSJ: 25,500,000,000
Goku SSJ2: 51,000,000,000
Majin Vegeta: 51,000,000,000
Gohan SSJ2: 2,600,000,000
Fat Buu: 125,000,000,000
Final Atonement: 130,000,000,000
Goku SSJ3(Suppressed): 124,970,000,000
Gotenks(Fat): 92,000
Gotenks(Skinny): 72,000
Gotenks: 950,000,000
Gotenks SSJ: 45,250,000,000
Super Buu: 360,000,000,000
Gotenks SSJ3: 362,000,000,000
Piccolo(W/ Weights): 5,000,000,000
Gohan(Z-Sword Training): 1,130,000,000
Ultimate Gohan: 565,000,000,000
Super Buu(Piccolo + Gotenks): 727,000,000,000
Super Buu(Piccolo): 365,009,050,000
Buuhan: 930,009,050,000
Goku SSJ3: 204,000,000,000
Vegeta: 490,000,000
Vegito: 400,000,000,000
Vegito SSJ: 20,000,000,000,000
Kid Buu: 195,000,000,000
Good Buu: 82,000,000,000
Vegeta SSJ2: 49,000,000,000
Goku SSJ3(Suppressed): 195,000,000,000
Super Spirit Bomb: 220,000,000,000
BOG SAGA
Whis(0.1%): 789,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Beerus(Heavily Suppressed) 470,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Goku: 1,300,000,000
Goku SSJ2: 130,000,000,000
Goku SSJ3: 520,000,000,000
Vegeta 1,000,000,000
Yamcha: 1,300
Tien 1,000,000
Krillin: 1,100,000
Beerus(Against Z Fighters): 180,000,000,000,000
Good Buu: 82,500,000,000
Vegeta SSJ2(Enraged, AKA the most retarded shit ever): 1,900,000,000,000
Goku SSJ(Energy Gathered): 4,800,000,000,000
Goku SSJG: 13,000,000,000,000,000,000
Goku SSJG(Adapting): 5,200,000,000,000,000,000,000
Goku SSJ(God Ki Adapting): 585,000,000,000,000,000
Beerus(Heavily Suppressed): 9,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
RoF
Tagoma: 12,800
Sorbet: 1,700
Frieza(Pre Training): 15,600,000,000,000
Frieza Final Form: 6,700,000,000,000,000,000,000
Golden Frieza: 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Frieza Soliders 1,100-10,000
Shisami 1,600,000,000
Gohan: 8,200,000
Gohan SSJ: 410,000,000
Piccolo: 45,600,000,000
Vegeta(God Ki): 18,000,000,000,000,000
Goku(God Ki): 17,000,000,000,000,000
Vegeta SSGSS: 9,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Goku SSGSS: 8,500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Champa Arc
Whis: 17,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Vados: 18,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Beerus: 2,780,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Champa: 2,600,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Goku: 3,330,000,000,000
Botamo: 200,000,000
Frost 1st Form: 1,300,000,000
Frost Assualt Form: 28,000,000,000,000
Frost Final Form: 105,000,000,000,000
Goku SSJ: 166,500,000,000,000
Piccolo: 110,000,000,000,000
Vegeta: 3,335,000,000,000
Cabba: 2,600,000,000,000
Cabba SSJ: 130,000,000,000,000
Vegeta SSJ: 166,750,000,000,000
Magetta: 166,000,000,000,000
Hit: 15,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Vegeta SSGSS: 9,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Goku(God Ki): 17,000,000,000,000,000
Goku SSGSSS: 8,500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Goku SSGSSKKX2: 17,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Goku SSGSSKKX10: 85,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Hit(Improved): 9,500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Monaka: 970,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Zamasu Arc
Goku Black: 1,700,000,000,000,000,000
Future Trunks: 16,000,000,000,000,000
Future Mai: 9
Vegeta: 20,000,000,000,000,000
Goku: 19,500,000,000,000,000
Kid Trunks: 11,000,000
Goten 10,500,000
Trunks SSJ: 800,000,000,000,000,000
Trunks SSJ2: 1,600,000,000,000,000,000
Trunks SSJ Grade 3: 960,000,000,000,000,000
Vegeta SSGSSS: 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
SSJ3 Goku: 7,800,000,000,000,000,000
SSJ2 Goku: 1,950,000,000,000,000,000
Goku Black(FP): 1,950,000,000,000,000,000
Zamasu: 870,000,000,000,000,000
Gowasu: 875,000,000
Goku Black SSJR: 19,500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Zamasu: 19,500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Goku SSGSS: 8,250,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Trunks SSJ Rage: 18,600,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Beerus(Haikai): 17,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Beerus(FP): 16,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Vegeta(HTC): 41,000,000,000,000,000
Goku(Zenkai): 39,700,000,000,000,000
Vegeta SSGSS: 20,500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Goku SSGSS: 19,850,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Fused Zamasu 13,650,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Vegito SSGSS: 20,175,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Trunks Saga
Chiatzou: 9700
Yamcha: 42,000
Tien: 48,000
Krillin: 52,000
Vegeta: 3,300,000
Trunks(Suppressed): 5
Trunks: 4,200,000
Trunks SSJ: 210,000,000
Mecha Frieza: 185,000,000
King Cold: 70,000,000
Goku: 4,500,000
Goku SSJ: 225,000,000
Gohan(After Training): 900,000
Piccolo: 2,890,000
Goku(After Training): 10,050,000
Android 19: 92,000,000
Android 20: 12,750,000
Goku(Heart Virus): 8,900,000
Goku SSJ(Heart Virus Growing): 92,240,000
Android 19(Kamehameha Absorbed): 95,000,000
Goku SSJ(Heart Virus Severe): 10,000,000
Goku(Extreme Heart Virus): 1,500
Vegeta: 9,000,000
Vegeta SSJ: 450,000,000
Android 19(Energy Absorbed): 135,000,000
Android 18: 500,000,000
Android 17: 510,000,000
Cell 1st form: 425,000,000
Piccolo(Pre Kami Merge): 512,000,000
Cell(Pre absorbing): 565,000,000
Android 16: 564,950,000
Cell 2nd Form: 890,000,000
Vegeta(Pre HTC): 30,000,000
Super Vegeta: 1,650,000,000
Trunks(Pre HTC): 31,000,000
Trunks SSJ Grade III: 1,860,000,000
Perfect Cell(Suppressed): 2,450,000,000
Perfect Cell Buff(Suppressed): 3,000,000,000
Goku(Pre HTC): 86,000,000
Gohan(Pre HTC): 82,000,000
Goku MSSJ: 8,000,000,000
Perfect Cell(Suppressed Aganist Goku): 8,750,000,000
Goku MSSJ(FP): 8,750,000,000
Gohan MSSJ: 4,100,000,000
Gohan SSJ2(Enraged): 44,900,000,000
Perfect Cell(Full Power): 24,000,000,000
Perfect Cell(Buff): 42,000,000,000
Cell Junior: 6,000,000,000
Super Perfect Cell: 45,000,000,000
Vegeta(Enraged): 1,700,000,000,000
Just kidding, this isn't MY BULMA!!!
Vegeta(Enraged): 2,450,000,000
Gohan(Super Kamehameha): 47,995,000,000
SP Cell(Perfect Kamehameha): 48,000,000,000
Gohan SSJ2(Maximum Power): 49,000,000,000
BUU SAGA (7 YEAR GAP)
Gohan: 26,000,000
Goten: 4,500,000
Gohan SSJ: 1,300,000,000
Goten SSJ: 225,000,000
Vegeta: 470,000,000
Trunks: 4,550,000
Vegeta SSJ: 23,500,000,000
Trunks SSJ: 227,500,000
Videl: 25
Hercule: 22
Goku(Intense Training) 510,000,000
Spopovitch: 42
Supereme Kai: 8,570,000,000
Kibito: 420,000,000
Pui Pui: 30,000
Yakon: 21,790,000,000
Babidi: 3.5
Dabura: 12,000,000,000
Goku SSJ: 25,500,000,000
Goku SSJ2: 51,000,000,000
Majin Vegeta: 51,000,000,000
Gohan SSJ2: 2,600,000,000
Fat Buu: 125,000,000,000
Final Atonement: 130,000,000,000
Goku SSJ3(Suppressed): 124,970,000,000
Gotenks(Fat): 92,000
Gotenks(Skinny): 72,000
Gotenks: 950,000,000
Gotenks SSJ: 45,250,000,000
Super Buu: 360,000,000,000
Gotenks SSJ3: 362,000,000,000
Piccolo(W/ Weights): 5,000,000,000
Gohan(Z-Sword Training): 1,130,000,000
Ultimate Gohan: 565,000,000,000
Super Buu(Piccolo + Gotenks): 727,000,000,000
Super Buu(Piccolo): 365,009,050,000
Buuhan: 930,009,050,000
Goku SSJ3: 204,000,000,000
Vegeta: 490,000,000
Vegito: 400,000,000,000
Vegito SSJ: 20,000,000,000,000
Kid Buu: 195,000,000,000
Good Buu: 82,000,000,000
Vegeta SSJ2: 49,000,000,000
Goku SSJ3(Suppressed): 195,000,000,000
Super Spirit Bomb: 220,000,000,000
BOG SAGA
Whis(0.1%): 789,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Beerus(Heavily Suppressed) 470,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Goku: 1,300,000,000
Goku SSJ2: 130,000,000,000
Goku SSJ3: 520,000,000,000
Vegeta 1,000,000,000
Yamcha: 1,300
Tien 1,000,000
Krillin: 1,100,000
Beerus(Against Z Fighters): 180,000,000,000,000
Good Buu: 82,500,000,000
Vegeta SSJ2(Enraged, AKA the most retarded shit ever): 1,900,000,000,000
Goku SSJ(Energy Gathered): 4,800,000,000,000
Goku SSJG: 13,000,000,000,000,000,000
Goku SSJG(Adapting): 5,200,000,000,000,000,000,000
Goku SSJ(God Ki Adapting): 585,000,000,000,000,000
Beerus(Heavily Suppressed): 9,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
RoF
Tagoma: 12,800
Sorbet: 1,700
Frieza(Pre Training): 15,600,000,000,000
Frieza Final Form: 6,700,000,000,000,000,000,000
Golden Frieza: 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Frieza Soliders 1,100-10,000
Shisami 1,600,000,000
Gohan: 8,200,000
Gohan SSJ: 410,000,000
Piccolo: 45,600,000,000
Vegeta(God Ki): 18,000,000,000,000,000
Goku(God Ki): 17,000,000,000,000,000
Vegeta SSGSS: 9,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Goku SSGSS: 8,500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Champa Arc
Whis: 17,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Vados: 18,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Beerus: 2,780,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Champa: 2,600,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Goku: 3,330,000,000,000
Botamo: 200,000,000
Frost 1st Form: 1,300,000,000
Frost Assualt Form: 28,000,000,000,000
Frost Final Form: 105,000,000,000,000
Goku SSJ: 166,500,000,000,000
Piccolo: 110,000,000,000,000
Vegeta: 3,335,000,000,000
Cabba: 2,600,000,000,000
Cabba SSJ: 130,000,000,000,000
Vegeta SSJ: 166,750,000,000,000
Magetta: 166,000,000,000,000
Hit: 15,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Vegeta SSGSS: 9,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Goku(God Ki): 17,000,000,000,000,000
Goku SSGSSS: 8,500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Goku SSGSSKKX2: 17,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Goku SSGSSKKX10: 85,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Hit(Improved): 9,500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Monaka: 970,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Zamasu Arc
Goku Black: 1,700,000,000,000,000,000
Future Trunks: 16,000,000,000,000,000
Future Mai: 9
Vegeta: 20,000,000,000,000,000
Goku: 19,500,000,000,000,000
Kid Trunks: 11,000,000
Goten 10,500,000
Trunks SSJ: 800,000,000,000,000,000
Trunks SSJ2: 1,600,000,000,000,000,000
Trunks SSJ Grade 3: 960,000,000,000,000,000
Vegeta SSGSSS: 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
SSJ3 Goku: 7,800,000,000,000,000,000
SSJ2 Goku: 1,950,000,000,000,000,000
Goku Black(FP): 1,950,000,000,000,000,000
Zamasu: 870,000,000,000,000,000
Gowasu: 875,000,000
Goku Black SSJR: 19,500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Zamasu: 19,500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Goku SSGSS: 8,250,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Trunks SSJ Rage: 18,600,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Beerus(Haikai): 17,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Beerus(FP): 16,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Vegeta(HTC): 41,000,000,000,000,000
Goku(Zenkai): 39,700,000,000,000,000
Vegeta SSGSS: 20,500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Goku SSGSS: 19,850,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Fused Zamasu 13,650,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Vegito SSGSS: 20,175,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Are you kidding? How Monaka can be that strong? lol
Power levels are not just big numbers:
by Doctor.
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by Doctor.