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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:00 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote: Now that I think about it, the same stuff is in Kai which Super is a continuation of, so could that explain Rageta >>> All?
I don't know if Kai keeps all the stuff about Kid Boo being the defacto strongest but given the fact Super acknowledges filler exclusive to Z, I think you can use this connection to explain Rageta being stronger than Gohan or Gotenks without making it absurdly big as a boost.
I want someone to make a doujin where Vegeta has his Rageta moment, then it cuts back to Vegeta staring at Beerus and thinking, "It sure would be cool if I did something like that."
I'm still waiting for a doujinshi after GT where Goku stays dead and everyone has to manage without him, actually capitalize on Vegeta being the main guy in-charge now.
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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:13 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote: I don't know if Kai keeps all the stuff about Kid Boo being the defacto strongest but given the fact Super acknowledges filler exclusive to Z, I think you can use this connection to explain Rageta being stronger than Gohan or Gotenks without making it absurdly big as a boost.
I want someone to make a doujin where Vegeta has his Rageta moment, then it cuts back to Vegeta staring at Beerus and thinking, "It sure would be cool if I did something like that."
I'm still waiting for a doujinshi after GT where Goku stays dead and everyone has to manage without him, actually capitalize on Vegeta being the main guy in-charge now.
Apparently nothing happened between GT and like half a century later.

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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by emperior » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:27 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
emperior wrote: Babidi Arc

[spoiler]Gohan
Base - 10,000,000
SSJ - 500,000,000

Post Training - 12,000,000
FPSSJ - 600,000,000
SSJ2 - 1,200,000,000

Goten
Base - 7,000,000
FPSSJ - 350,000,000

Post Training with Gohan - 8,000,000
FPSSJ - 400,000,000

Trunks
Base - 7,500,000
FPSSJ - 375,000,000

Post Training with Vegeta- 8,500,000
FPSSJ - 425,000,000


Goku
Base - 15,000,000
SSJ - 750,000,000
SSJ2 - 1,500,000,000
SSJ3 Full Power - 6,000,000,000

Vegeta
Base - 14,800,000
SSJ - 740,000,000
SSJ2 - 1,480,000,000
Majin Vegeta - 1,500,000,000

Krillin - 150,000
Android 18 - 240,000,000

Piccolo - 400,000,000
Kaioshin- 400,000,000
Kibito - 20,000,000


Pui-Pui - 100,000
Yakon - 10,000,000
Dabura - 1,200,000,000


Majin Buu - 2,000,000,000

Gotenks
Base - 28,000,000
SSJ - 1,400,000,000[/spoiler]

Buu Arc

[spoiler]Goten - 9,000,000
Trunks - 9,000,000

Gotenks
Base - 36,000,000
SSJ - 1,800,000,000
SSJ3 - 5,400,000,000

(Gotenks’ SSJ3 multiplier is 150x)

Mystic Gohan - 6,500,000,000

Super Buu - 5,500,000,000
Buutenks - 9,900,000,000
Buuhan - 12,000,000,000

Kibitoshin - 2,100,000,000

Vegetto
Base - 300,000,000
SSJ - 15,000,000,000

Kid Buu - 5,600,000,000

Vegeta
Base - 15,000,000
SSJ - 750,000,000
SSJ2 - 1,500,000,000

Goku
Base - 15,000,000
SSJ - 750,000,000
SSJ2 - 1,500,000,000
SSJ3 - 4,500,000,000
SSJ3 (Full Power) - 6,000,000,000

Genkidama - 6,000,000,000
Genkidama + Goku's Boost - 10,000,000,000[/spoiler]
Up until the Boo stuff, I think you've got a pretty good conservative list but there are more issues the farther in you go. Firstly, Fat Boo should be x2 of Gohan's SS2 power since roughly twice that amount is enough to revive him.

Super Boo is WAY higher than Goku at SS3 and by extension so are Gotenks and Gohan, Goku is scared shitless at the prospect of fighting Super Boo without fusion, any fusion while he's fairly confident he can beat Kid Boo by himself. Making Goku 6 billion at SS3 to Super Boo's 5.5 and Kid's 5.6 doesn't work. Unless you're going for an anime power level list.

Vegetto should also be a bit more powerful than Boohan. He clearly can't win in Base in the manga since he uses SS immediately but I think making Boohan worth 70% of his power is too high, putting him at 40-50% feels more appropriate to how their fight goes down.

Thanks for the feedback about Fat Buu and Super Buu's power, I'll make them stronger. I will also adjust Goku, Gotenks and Gohan's power levels accordingly.
I was trying to make their powers fit with Super (where Goku > everyone) but I will just nerf Gohan and make him weaker because he slacked off between Buu and Beerus.
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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:29 pm

emperior wrote:Thanks for the feedback about Fat Buu and Super Buu's power, I'll make them stronger. I will also adjust Goku, Gotenks and Gohan's power levels accordingly.
I was trying to make their powers fit with Super (where Goku > everyone) but I will just nerf Gohan and make him weaker because he slacked off between Buu and Beerus.
I think you can make Goku > everyone if you use the anime's logic of Vegetto giving Goku & Vegeta a massive post fusion boost but in the manga it's pretty clear Gohan is the strongest unfused character.
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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by emperior » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:36 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
emperior wrote:Thanks for the feedback about Fat Buu and Super Buu's power, I'll make them stronger. I will also adjust Goku, Gotenks and Gohan's power levels accordingly.
I was trying to make their powers fit with Super (where Goku > everyone) but I will just nerf Gohan and make him weaker because he slacked off between Buu and Beerus.
I think you can make Goku > everyone if you use the anime's logic of Vegetto giving Goku & Vegeta a massive post fusion boost but in the manga it's pretty clear Gohan is the strongest unfused character.

I like the idea of Goku and Vegeta getting a little stronger after the fusion, but it would be nothing massive. I don't remember the anime ever stating such a thing though, but it fits with Whis' training.

By the way, I want my list to be based on the manga rather than the anime, or else base Vegetto would be absurdly strong.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Post by VegetaSSJBlue » Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:43 pm

POWER MULTIPLIERS

Oozaru – 10x
Super Saiyan – 50x
Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 75x
Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 100x
Super Saiyan 2 – 200x
Super Saiyan 3 – 500x

Raditz Arc

[spoiler]Son Gohan – 1
Enraged – 1,307

Son Goku – 416
Piccolo – 408
Tenshinhan – 250
Kuririn – 206
Yamcha – 177
Chaozu – 150
Yajirobe – 145
Muten Roshi – 139

Kaio of the North – 5,000
Enma Daio – 2,500
Kami of Earth – 325
Mr. Popo – 275

Raditz – 1,200
Oozaru – 12,000[/spoiler]

Saiyan Arc


[spoiler]Son Goku – 8,000
Kaio-Ken x2 – 16,000
Kaio-Ken x3 – 24,000
Kaio-Ken x4 – 32,000

Son Gohan – 1,200
Enraged – 2,800
Oozaru – 12,000

Piccolo – 2,500
Tenshinhan – 1,800
Kuririn – 1,500
Yamcha – 1,300
Chaozu – 1,000
Yajirobe – 800

Saibaimen – 1,200

Nappa – 7,500
Oozaru – 75,000

Vegeta – 18,000
Oozaru – 180,000[/spoiler]

Namek Arc

[spoiler]Son Goku – 60,000
Kaio-Ken x3 – 180,000
Kaio-Ken x10 – 600,000

Vegeta – 24,000
Post-recovery – 30,000
Post-recovery 2 – 50,000

Son Gohan – 1,500
Power Unlocked – 12,000
Post-recovery – 30,000

Kuririn – 1,500
Power Unlocked – 11,000

Dende – 250
Power Unlocked – 1,000

Muri – 1,500
Young Namekians – 3,000
Nail – 42,000

Freeza – 530,000
Freeza Soldiers – 1,250
Kwi – 18,000
Dodoria – 20,000

Zarbon – 22,000
Transformed – 29,000

Gurd – 2,500
Recoome – 40,000
Butta – 40,000
Jheese – 40,000
Captain Ginyu – 120,000[/spoiler]

Freeza Arc

[spoiler]Son Goku – 2,000,000
Kaio-Ken x10 – 20,000,000
Kaio-Ken x20 – 40,000,000
Super Saiyan – 100,000,000

Vegeta – 500,000
Post-recovery – 1,750,000

Son Gohan – 100,000
Enraged – 750,000
Post-recovery – 400,000
Enraged – 1,500,000

Piccolo – 120,000
Merged with Nail – 1,200,000

Kuririn – 11,000

Freeza – 530,000
Second Form – 800,000
Power-Up 1 – 900,000
Power-Up 2 – 1,050,000
Third Form – 1,575,000
True Form – 2,100,000
50% Power – 47,500,000
70% Power – 66,500,000
100% Power – 95,000,000[/spoiler]

Mecha Freeza Arc

[spoiler]Son Goku – 2,500,000
Super Saiyan – 125,000,000

Trunks – 2,400,000
Super Saiyan – 120,000,000

Vegeta – 2,000,000
Piccolo – 1,500,000
Son Gohan – 400,000
Tenshinhan – 16,000
Kuririn – 12,000
Yamcha – 8,000
Chaozu – 4,000

Freeza Soldiers – 1,250
King Cold – 100,000,000
Mecha Freeza – 100,000,000[/spoiler]

Future Arc I

[spoiler]Future Gohan – 1,500,000
Super Saiyan – 75,000,000
Post-training – 2,250,000
Super Saiyan – 112,500,000

Kid Trunks – 25,000
Post-training – 40,000
Super Saiyan – 2,000,000

Future Android 18 – 190,000,000
Future Android 17 – 200,000,000[/spoiler]


Artificial Human Arc

[spoiler]Son Goku – 3,000,000
Super Saiyan – 150,000,000

Vegeta – 3,150,000
Super Saiyan – 157,500,000
Post-RoSaT – 6,500,000
Super Saiyan – 325,000,000
Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 487,500,000
Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 650,000,000

Trunks – 2,650,000
Super Saiyan – 132,500,000
Post-RoSaT – 6,250,000
Super Saiyan – 312,500,000
Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 468,750,000
Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 625,000,000

Piccolo – 120,000,000
Super Namekian – 200,000,000

Gohan – 2,000,000
Tenshinhan – 20,000
Kuririn – 15,000
Yamcha – 10,000
Chaozu – 5,000

Android 19 – 60,000,000
Post-absorption – 90,000,000

Android 20 – 65,000,000
Post-absorption – 97,500,000

Android 18 – 190,000,000
Android 17 – 200,000,000
Android 16 – 250,000,000

Cell – 175,000,000
Humans Absorbed – 250,000,000
Second Form – 325,000,000
Full Power – 400,000,000
Perfect Form – 450,000,000
Power Up – 575,000,000
Bulked Up – 725,000,000[/spoiler]

Cell Games Arc
[spoiler]Son Gohan – 37,500,000
Super Saiyan – 1,875,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 – 7,500,000,000
Injured – 3,600,000,000

Son Goku – 32,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,600,000,000

Vegeta – 25,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,250,000,000

Trunks – 24,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,200,000,000

Piccolo – 1,000,000,000
Android 16 – 250,000,000

Cell Juniors – 1,275,000,000

Perfect Cell – 1,675,000,000
Full Speed – 1,875,000,000
Full Power – 2,400,000,000
Bulked Up – 3,000,000,000
"Super Perfect" – 4,000,000,000[/spoiler]

Future Arc II

[spoiler]Trunks – 24,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,200,000,000
3 Years Later – 27,500,000
Super Saiyan – 1,375,000,000

Future Android 18 – 190,000,000
Future Android 17 – 200,000,000
Cell – 250,000,000[/spoiler]


Buu Arc

[spoiler]Son Goku – 40,000,000
Super Saiyan – 2,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 – 8,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 3 – 20,000,000,000

Vegeta – 36,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,800,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 – 7,200,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 [Majin boost] – 8,000,000,000

Son Gohan – 30,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,500,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 – 6,000,000,000
Ultimate – 60,000,000,000

Son Goten – 20,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,000,000,000
Post-RoSaT – 25,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,250,000,000

Trunks – 21,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,050,000,000
Post-RoSaT – 25,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,250,000,000

Gotenks – 8,000,000,000
Super Saiyan – 20,000,000,000
Post-RoSaT – 10,000,000,000
Super Saiyan – 25,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 3 – 50,000,000,000

Vegetto – 80,000,000,000
Super Saiyan – 200,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 3 – 400,000,000,000

Piccolo – 1,300,000,000
Android 18 – 190,000,000
Tenshinhan – 25,000
Kuririn – 12,500
Yamcha – 8,000
Chaozu – 6,000
Dende – 2,500

Grand Kaioshin – 18,000,000,000
Kaioshin of the South – 25,000,000,000
Kaioshin of the North – 2,000,000,000
Kaioshin of the West – 1,750,000,000

Rou Kaioshin – 1,000,000
Kibito – 10,000,000
Kaioshin of the East - 1,500,000,000
Merged – 17,500,000,000

Babidi – 10
Pui Pui – 20,000
Yakon – 40,000,000
Dabra – 4,000,000,000

Pure Boo – 20,000,000,000
Buff Boo – 45,000,000,000
Majin Boo – 18,000,000,000
Evil Boo – 10,000,000,000
Good Boo – 8,000,000,000
Super Boo – 40,000,000,000
+ Gotenks – 90,000,000,000
+ Son Gohan – 100,000,000,000[/spoiler]

28th Tenkaichi Budokai Arc

[spoiler]Son Goku – 50,000,000
Super Saiyan – 2,500,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 – 10,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 3 – 25,000,000,000

Vegeta – 45,000,000
Super Saiyan – 2,250,000,000
Super Saiyan 2 – 9,000,000,000

Son Goten – 30,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,500,000,000

Trunks – 30,000,000
Super Saiyan – 1,500,000,000

Son Gohan – 60,000,000,000
Mister Boo – 8,000,000,000
Piccolo – 1,750,000,000
Oob – 50,000,000
Pan – 2,000,000[/spoiler]

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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by LightBing » Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:12 pm

How does everyone fall on the SSJ Fusion and Super Boo's power question?

Elaborating, do you guys go the route of reducing the normal SSJ multiplier for the fusions or do you boost Super Boo's power?
The problem with boosting Super Boo's power is that it has no explanation and it's contradicts his apparent absorption technique. Which is pure addition with the exception of the Grand Supreme Kai. Therefore how in the hell did Super Boo got so stupidly strong just by absorbing Mr.Boo, who's a SSJ2 tier fighter.

I usually reduce the fusions SSJ multipliers a great deal. It's not necessary contradicted and I can speculate that the Base got a good deal of the power unlocked by SSJ.

I'm interested in everyone's thoughts.

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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by The gr » Tue Feb 21, 2017 3:57 pm

Here my list of power for the Saiyan arc,I will do the namek,cell and buu arc later,but I want your opinions on it
    power multipliers oozaru=10x
      lets begin
        raditz arc[spoiler]
        • weighted Goku=334,Goku=416
        • weighted piccolo=322, piccolo=408, piccolo special beam cannon=1,400
        • raditz=1,250, damaged raditz=1,150
        • gohan=1,enraged=1,307
        • krillin=208
        • tien=250
        • yamcha=180
        • roshi=139
        • chaozu=150
        • yajiorobe=148
            [/spoiler] the nappa fight [spoiler]piccolo=2,500
            • Gohan=1,200, enraged=2,900
            • krillin=1,850
            • tien=1,900, weakened=1,500,tri beam=2,000
            • yamcha=1,390
            • chiatzu=1,000
            • saibamen=1,250
            nappa=4,000, weakened nappa after the kaioken=3,000.[/spoiler] the vegeta fight[spoiler]goku=8,000, kaioken x2 =16,000, Kaioken x3=24,000, Kaioken x4=32,000, weakened Goku=5,000
            • vegeta=18,000, vegeta galick gun=24,100, Vegeta after the galick gun=12,000
            oozaru Vegeta=120,000
            • yajirobe=900
            • Vegeta after the spirit bomb=9,000
            • oozaru Gohan=12,000
            [/spoiler]
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            Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

            Post by ekrolo2 » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:54 pm

            LightBing wrote:How does everyone fall on the SSJ Fusion and Super Boo's power question?

            Elaborating, do you guys go the route of reducing the normal SSJ multiplier for the fusions or do you boost Super Boo's power?
            The problem with boosting Super Boo's power is that it has no explanation and it's contradicts his apparent absorption technique. Which is pure addition with the exception of the Grand Supreme Kai. Therefore how in the hell did Super Boo got so stupidly strong just by absorbing Mr.Boo, who's a SSJ2 tier fighter.

            I usually reduce the fusions SSJ multipliers a great deal. It's not necessary contradicted and I can speculate that the Base got a good deal of the power unlocked by SSJ.

            I'm interested in everyone's thoughts.
            I think you can use the SS idea of boosting Base up for the anime as a setup for GT but there's nothing in the manga that implies this. Plus when you bring down the multipliers, you inevitably hit the problem of "Why doesn't Goku or Vegetto use KK instead of SS?". I know Goku isn't a fusion but that's my general stance on the shrinking multiplier idea.
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            Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

            Post by VegetaSSJBlue » Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:12 am

            VegetaSSJBlue wrote:POWER MULTIPLIERS

            Oozaru – 10x
            Super Saiyan – 50x
            Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 75x
            Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 100x
            Super Saiyan 2 – 100x
            Super Saiyan 3 – 250x

            Raditz Arc

            [spoiler]Son Gohan – 1
            Enraged – 1,307

            Son Goku – 416
            Piccolo – 408
            Tenshinhan – 250
            Kuririn – 206
            Yamcha – 177
            Chaozu – 150
            Yajirobe – 145
            Muten Roshi – 139

            Kaio of the North – 5,000
            Enma Daio – 2,500
            Kami of Earth – 325
            Mr. Popo – 275

            Raditz – 1,200
            Oozaru – 12,000[/spoiler]

            Saiyan Arc


            [spoiler]Son Goku – 8,000
            Kaio-Ken x2 – 16,000
            Kaio-Ken x3 – 24,000
            Kaio-Ken x4 – 32,000

            Son Gohan – 1,200
            Enraged – 2,800
            Oozaru – 12,000

            Piccolo – 2,500
            Tenshinhan – 1,800
            Kuririn – 1,500
            Yamcha – 1,300
            Chaozu – 1,000
            Yajirobe – 800

            Saibaimen – 1,200

            Nappa – 7,500
            Oozaru – 75,000

            Vegeta – 18,000
            Oozaru – 180,000[/spoiler]

            Namek Arc

            [spoiler]Son Goku – 60,000
            Kaio-Ken x3 – 180,000
            Kaio-Ken x10 – 600,000

            Vegeta – 24,000
            Post-recovery – 30,000
            Post-recovery 2 – 50,000

            Son Gohan – 1,500
            Power Unlocked – 12,000
            Post-recovery – 30,000

            Kuririn – 1,500
            Power Unlocked – 11,000

            Dende – 250
            Power Unlocked – 1,000

            Muri – 1,500
            Young Namekians – 3,000
            Nail – 42,000

            Freeza – 530,000
            Freeza Soldiers – 1,250
            Kwi – 18,000
            Dodoria – 20,000

            Zarbon – 22,000
            Transformed – 29,000

            Gurd – 2,500
            Recoome – 40,000
            Butta – 40,000
            Jheese – 40,000
            Captain Ginyu – 120,000[/spoiler]

            Freeza Arc

            [spoiler]Son Goku – 2,000,000
            Kaio-Ken x10 – 20,000,000
            Kaio-Ken x20 – 40,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 100,000,000

            Vegeta – 500,000
            Post-recovery – 1,750,000

            Son Gohan – 100,000
            Enraged – 750,000
            Post-recovery – 400,000
            Enraged – 1,500,000

            Piccolo – 120,000
            Merged with Nail – 1,200,000

            Kuririn – 11,000

            Freeza – 530,000
            Second Form – 800,000
            Power-Up 1 – 900,000
            Power-Up 2 – 1,050,000
            Third Form – 1,575,000
            True Form – 2,100,000
            50% Power – 47,500,000
            70% Power – 66,500,000
            100% Power – 95,000,000[/spoiler]

            Mecha Freeza Arc

            [spoiler]Son Goku – 2,500,000
            Super Saiyan – 125,000,000

            Trunks – 2,400,000
            Super Saiyan – 120,000,000

            Vegeta – 2,000,000
            Piccolo – 1,500,000
            Son Gohan – 400,000
            Tenshinhan – 16,000
            Kuririn – 12,000
            Yamcha – 8,000
            Chaozu – 4,000

            Freeza Soldiers – 1,250
            King Cold – 100,000,000
            Mecha Freeza – 100,000,000[/spoiler]

            Future Arc I

            [spoiler]Future Gohan – 1,500,000
            Super Saiyan – 75,000,000
            Post-training – 2,250,000
            Super Saiyan – 112,500,000

            Kid Trunks – 25,000
            Post-training – 40,000
            Super Saiyan – 2,000,000

            Future Android 18 – 190,000,000
            Future Android 17 – 200,000,000[/spoiler]


            Artificial Human Arc

            [spoiler]Son Goku – 3,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 150,000,000

            Vegeta – 3,150,000
            Super Saiyan – 157,500,000
            Post-RoSaT – 6,500,000
            Super Saiyan – 325,000,000
            Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 487,500,000
            Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 650,000,000

            Trunks – 2,650,000
            Super Saiyan – 132,500,000
            Post-RoSaT – 6,250,000
            Super Saiyan – 312,500,000
            Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 468,750,000
            Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 625,000,000

            Piccolo – 120,000,000
            Super Namekian – 200,000,000

            Gohan – 2,000,000
            Tenshinhan – 20,000
            Kuririn – 15,000
            Yamcha – 10,000
            Chaozu – 5,000

            Android 19 – 60,000,000
            Post-absorption – 90,000,000

            Android 20 – 65,000,000
            Post-absorption – 97,500,000

            Android 18 – 190,000,000
            Android 17 – 200,000,000
            Android 16 – 250,000,000

            Cell – 175,000,000
            Humans Absorbed – 250,000,000
            Second Form – 325,000,000
            Full Power – 400,000,000
            Perfect Form – 450,000,000
            Power Up – 575,000,000
            Bulked Up – 725,000,000[/spoiler]

            Cell Games Arc
            [spoiler]Son Gohan – 37,500,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,875,000,000
            Super Saiyan 2 – 3,750,000,000
            Injured – 1,800,000,000

            Son Goku – 32,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,600,000,000

            Vegeta – 25,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,250,000,000

            Trunks – 24,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,200,000,000

            Piccolo – 1,000,000,000
            Android 16 – 250,000,000

            Cell Juniors – 1,275,000,000

            Perfect Cell – 1,675,000,000
            Full Speed – 1,875,000,000
            Full Power – 2,250,000,000
            Bulked Up – 2,750,000,000
            "Super Perfect" – 3,000,000,000[/spoiler]

            Future Arc II

            [spoiler]Trunks – 24,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,200,000,000
            3 Years Later – 27,500,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,375,000,000

            Future Android 18 – 190,000,000
            Future Android 17 – 200,000,000
            Cell – 250,000,000[/spoiler]


            Buu Arc

            [spoiler]Son Goku – 40,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 2,000,000,000
            Super Saiyan 2 – 4,000,000,000
            Super Saiyan 3 – 10,000,000,000

            Vegeta – 36,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,800,000,000
            Super Saiyan 2 – 3,600,000,000
            Super Saiyan 2 [Majin boost] – 4,000,000,000

            Son Gohan – 30,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,500,000,000
            Super Saiyan 2 – 3,000,000,000
            Ultimate – 30,000,000,000

            Son Goten – 20,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,000,000,000
            Post-RoSaT – 25,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,250,000,000

            Trunks – 21,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,050,000,000
            Post-RoSaT – 25,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,250,000,000

            Gotenks – 200,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 10,000,000,000
            Post-RoSaT – 250,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 12,500,000,000
            Super Saiyan 3 – 25,000,000,000

            Vegetto – 2,000,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 100,000,000,000

            Piccolo – 1,300,000,000
            Android 18 – 190,000,000
            Tenshinhan – 25,000
            Kuririn – 12,500
            Yamcha – 8,000
            Chaozu – 6,000
            Dende – 2,500

            Grand Kaioshin – 7,500,000,000
            Kaioshin of the South – 12,500,000,000
            Kaioshin of the North – 2,000,000,000
            Kaioshin of the West – 1,750,000,000

            Rou Kaioshin – 1,000,000
            Kibito – 10,000,000
            Kaioshin of the East - 1,500,000,000
            Merged – 9,000,000,000

            Babidi – 10
            Pui Pui – 22,500
            Yakon – 45,000,000
            Dabra – 3,000,000,000

            Pure Boo – 10,000,000,000
            Buff Boo – 22,500,000,000
            Majin Boo – 9,000,000,000
            Evil Boo – 5,000,000,000
            Good Boo – 4,000,000,000
            Super Boo – 20,000,000,000
            + Gotenks – 45,000,000,000
            + Son Gohan – 50,000,000,000[/spoiler]

            28th Tenkaichi Budokai Arc

            [spoiler]Son Goku – 50,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 2,500,000,000
            Super Saiyan 2 – 5,000,000,000
            Super Saiyan 3 – 12,500,000,000

            Vegeta – 45,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 2,250,000,000
            Super Saiyan 2 – 4,500,000,000

            Son Goten – 30,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,500,000,000

            Trunks – 30,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,500,000,000

            Son Gohan – 30,000,000,000
            Mister Boo – 4,000,000,000
            Piccolo – 1,750,000,000
            Oob – 50,000,000
            Pan – 2,000,000[/spoiler]

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            Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

            Post by TheUltimateNinja » Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:19 am

            VegetaSSJBlue wrote:
            VegetaSSJBlue wrote:POWER MULTIPLIERS

            Oozaru – 10x
            Super Saiyan – 50x
            Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 75x
            Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 100x
            Super Saiyan 2 – 100x
            Super Saiyan 3 – 250x

            Raditz Arc

            [spoiler]Son Gohan – 1
            Enraged – 1,307

            Son Goku – 416
            Piccolo – 408
            Tenshinhan – 250
            Kuririn – 206
            Yamcha – 177
            Chaozu – 150
            Yajirobe – 145
            Muten Roshi – 139

            Kaio of the North – 5,000
            Enma Daio – 2,500
            Kami of Earth – 325
            Mr. Popo – 275

            Raditz – 1,200
            Oozaru – 12,000[/spoiler]

            Saiyan Arc


            [spoiler]Son Goku – 8,000
            Kaio-Ken x2 – 16,000
            Kaio-Ken x3 – 24,000
            Kaio-Ken x4 – 32,000

            Son Gohan – 1,200
            Enraged – 2,800
            Oozaru – 12,000

            Piccolo – 2,500
            Tenshinhan – 1,800
            Kuririn – 1,500
            Yamcha – 1,300
            Chaozu – 1,000
            Yajirobe – 800

            Saibaimen – 1,200

            Nappa – 7,500
            Oozaru – 75,000

            Vegeta – 18,000
            Oozaru – 180,000[/spoiler]

            Namek Arc

            [spoiler]Son Goku – 60,000
            Kaio-Ken x3 – 180,000
            Kaio-Ken x10 – 600,000

            Vegeta – 24,000
            Post-recovery – 30,000
            Post-recovery 2 – 50,000

            Son Gohan – 1,500
            Power Unlocked – 12,000
            Post-recovery – 30,000

            Kuririn – 1,500
            Power Unlocked – 11,000

            Dende – 250
            Power Unlocked – 1,000

            Muri – 1,500
            Young Namekians – 3,000
            Nail – 42,000

            Freeza – 530,000
            Freeza Soldiers – 1,250
            Kwi – 18,000
            Dodoria – 20,000

            Zarbon – 22,000
            Transformed – 29,000

            Gurd – 2,500
            Recoome – 40,000
            Butta – 40,000
            Jheese – 40,000
            Captain Ginyu – 120,000[/spoiler]

            Freeza Arc

            [spoiler]Son Goku – 2,000,000
            Kaio-Ken x10 – 20,000,000
            Kaio-Ken x20 – 40,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 100,000,000

            Vegeta – 500,000
            Post-recovery – 1,750,000

            Son Gohan – 100,000
            Enraged – 750,000
            Post-recovery – 400,000
            Enraged – 1,500,000

            Piccolo – 120,000
            Merged with Nail – 1,200,000

            Kuririn – 11,000

            Freeza – 530,000
            Second Form – 800,000
            Power-Up 1 – 900,000
            Power-Up 2 – 1,050,000
            Third Form – 1,575,000
            True Form – 2,100,000
            50% Power – 47,500,000
            70% Power – 66,500,000
            100% Power – 95,000,000[/spoiler]

            Mecha Freeza Arc

            [spoiler]Son Goku – 2,500,000
            Super Saiyan – 125,000,000

            Trunks – 2,400,000
            Super Saiyan – 120,000,000

            Vegeta – 2,000,000
            Piccolo – 1,500,000
            Son Gohan – 400,000
            Tenshinhan – 16,000
            Kuririn – 12,000
            Yamcha – 8,000
            Chaozu – 4,000

            Freeza Soldiers – 1,250
            King Cold – 100,000,000
            Mecha Freeza – 100,000,000[/spoiler]

            Future Arc I

            [spoiler]Future Gohan – 1,500,000
            Super Saiyan – 75,000,000
            Post-training – 2,250,000
            Super Saiyan – 112,500,000

            Kid Trunks – 25,000
            Post-training – 40,000
            Super Saiyan – 2,000,000

            Future Android 18 – 190,000,000
            Future Android 17 – 200,000,000[/spoiler]


            Artificial Human Arc

            [spoiler]Son Goku – 3,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 150,000,000

            Vegeta – 3,150,000
            Super Saiyan – 157,500,000
            Post-RoSaT – 6,500,000
            Super Saiyan – 325,000,000
            Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 487,500,000
            Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 650,000,000

            Trunks – 2,650,000
            Super Saiyan – 132,500,000
            Post-RoSaT – 6,250,000
            Super Saiyan – 312,500,000
            Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 468,750,000
            Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 625,000,000

            Piccolo – 120,000,000
            Super Namekian – 200,000,000

            Gohan – 2,000,000
            Tenshinhan – 20,000
            Kuririn – 15,000
            Yamcha – 10,000
            Chaozu – 5,000

            Android 19 – 60,000,000
            Post-absorption – 90,000,000

            Android 20 – 65,000,000
            Post-absorption – 97,500,000

            Android 18 – 190,000,000
            Android 17 – 200,000,000
            Android 16 – 250,000,000

            Cell – 175,000,000
            Humans Absorbed – 250,000,000
            Second Form – 325,000,000
            Full Power – 400,000,000
            Perfect Form – 450,000,000
            Power Up – 575,000,000
            Bulked Up – 725,000,000[/spoiler]

            Cell Games Arc
            [spoiler]Son Gohan – 37,500,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,875,000,000
            Super Saiyan 2 – 3,750,000,000
            Injured – 1,800,000,000

            Son Goku – 32,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,600,000,000

            Vegeta – 25,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,250,000,000

            Trunks – 24,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,200,000,000

            Piccolo – 1,000,000,000
            Android 16 – 250,000,000

            Cell Juniors – 1,275,000,000

            Perfect Cell – 1,675,000,000
            Full Speed – 1,875,000,000
            Full Power – 2,250,000,000
            Bulked Up – 2,750,000,000
            "Super Perfect" – 3,000,000,000[/spoiler]

            Future Arc II

            [spoiler]Trunks – 24,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,200,000,000
            3 Years Later – 27,500,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,375,000,000

            Future Android 18 – 190,000,000
            Future Android 17 – 200,000,000
            Cell – 250,000,000[/spoiler]


            Buu Arc

            [spoiler]Son Goku – 40,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 2,000,000,000
            Super Saiyan 2 – 4,000,000,000
            Super Saiyan 3 – 10,000,000,000

            Vegeta – 36,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,800,000,000
            Super Saiyan 2 – 3,600,000,000
            Super Saiyan 2 [Majin boost] – 4,000,000,000

            Son Gohan – 30,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,500,000,000
            Super Saiyan 2 – 3,000,000,000
            Ultimate – 30,000,000,000

            Son Goten – 20,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,000,000,000
            Post-RoSaT – 25,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,250,000,000

            Trunks – 21,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,050,000,000
            Post-RoSaT – 25,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,250,000,000

            Gotenks – 200,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 10,000,000,000
            Post-RoSaT – 250,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 12,500,000,000
            Super Saiyan 3 – 25,000,000,000

            Vegetto – 2,000,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 100,000,000,000

            Piccolo – 1,300,000,000
            Android 18 – 190,000,000
            Tenshinhan – 25,000
            Kuririn – 12,500
            Yamcha – 8,000
            Chaozu – 6,000
            Dende – 2,500

            Grand Kaioshin – 7,500,000,000
            Kaioshin of the South – 12,500,000,000
            Kaioshin of the North – 2,000,000,000
            Kaioshin of the West – 1,750,000,000

            Rou Kaioshin – 1,000,000
            Kibito – 10,000,000
            Kaioshin of the East - 1,500,000,000
            Merged – 9,000,000,000

            Babidi – 10
            Pui Pui – 22,500
            Yakon – 45,000,000
            Dabra – 3,000,000,000

            Pure Boo – 10,000,000,000
            Buff Boo – 22,500,000,000
            Majin Boo – 9,000,000,000
            Evil Boo – 5,000,000,000
            Good Boo – 4,000,000,000
            Super Boo – 20,000,000,000
            + Gotenks – 45,000,000,000
            + Son Gohan – 50,000,000,000[/spoiler]

            28th Tenkaichi Budokai Arc

            [spoiler]Son Goku – 50,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 2,500,000,000
            Super Saiyan 2 – 5,000,000,000
            Super Saiyan 3 – 12,500,000,000

            Vegeta – 45,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 2,250,000,000
            Super Saiyan 2 – 4,500,000,000

            Son Goten – 30,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,500,000,000

            Trunks – 30,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,500,000,000

            Son Gohan – 30,000,000,000
            Mister Boo – 4,000,000,000
            Piccolo – 1,750,000,000
            Oob – 50,000,000
            Pan – 2,000,000[/spoiler]
            Why did you quote yourself? Also, a lot of your gaps are too small.

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            Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

            Post by LightBing » Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:08 pm

            ekrolo2 wrote:I think you can use the SS idea of boosting Base up for the anime as a setup for GT but there's nothing in the manga that implies this. Plus when you bring down the multipliers, you inevitably hit the problem of "Why doesn't Goku or Vegetto use KK instead of SS?". I know Goku isn't a fusion but that's my general stance on the shrinking multiplier idea.
            I'm not saying it's a shrinking multiplier simply that SSJ works differently for fusions. I don't like the idea of a shrinking multiplier mainly because of the problem you pointed out.

            While there's nothing that implies SSJ for fusions working differently. It's a contradiction to have Super Boo get so much stronger from thin air, when the manga makes it apparent that his absorption is a straight up addition. We know that Super Boo is Pure Boo + Mr. Boo. This combination shouldn't have a chance against someone like SSJ3 Gotenks, yet it can put up a fight.

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            Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

            Post by DanielSSJ » Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:24 pm

            LightBing wrote:I'm not saying it's a shrinking multiplier simply that SSJ works differently for fusions. I don't like the idea of a shrinking multiplier mainly because of the problem you pointed out.

            While there's nothing that implies SSJ for fusions working differently. It's a contradiction to have Super Boo get so much stronger from thin air, when the manga makes it apparent that his absorption is a straight up addition. We know that Super Boo is Pure Boo + Mr. Boo. This combination shouldn't have a chance against someone like SSJ3 Gotenks, yet it can put up a fight.
            I personally think the mass amount of extra strength that Evil Boo gets comes from South Kaioshin. Boo on Kaioshin absorption works more like a fusion, which allows Buff Boo and Evil Boo to be a many times stronger than Pure Boo, and for Fat Boo to be weaker than Pure Boo. So when Fat Boo splits into good and evil halves, then recombines with evil in charge, Boo now has access to a lot more of the power that South Kaioshin provided. But those are just my two cents.
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            Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

            Post by LightBing » Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:52 pm

            DanielSSJ wrote:I personally think the mass amount of extra strength that Evil Boo gets comes from South Kaioshin. Boo on Kaioshin absorption works more like a fusion, which allows Buff Boo and Evil Boo to be a many times stronger than Pure Boo, and for Fat Boo to be weaker than Pure Boo. So when Fat Boo splits into good and evil halves, then recombines with evil in charge, Boo now has access to a lot more of the power that South Kaioshin provided. But those are just my two cents.
            Interesting theory, when Mr.Boo was removed Boo regressed to Buff Boo first instead of going directly to it's original form. Now, does this work number wise? Let's assume SSJ Gotenks(post-RoSaT) is moderately stronger than SSJ3 Goku, who's moderately stronger than Pure Boo. Also Mr.Boo is around SSJ2 Vegeta power.

            Something like:
            SSJ 3 Gotenks - 40
            Super Boo - 36/37
            SSJ Gotenks - 10
            SSJ3 Goku - 9
            Pure Boo - 8
            SSJ2 Goku - 2,25

            So Super Boo would be: 8 + 2,25 + South Kaioshin. This would make South Kaioshin around 26/27 in this scale, which obviously wouldn't work because he would finger flick Pure Boo.

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            Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

            Post by VegetaSSJBlue » Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:17 pm

            POWER MULTIPLIERS

            Oozaru – 10x
            Super Saiyan – 50x
            Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 75x
            Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 100x
            Super Saiyan 2 – 100x
            Super Saiyan 3 – 250x

            Raditz Arc

            [spoiler]Son Gohan – 1
            Enraged – 1,307

            Son Goku – 416
            Piccolo – 408
            Tenshinhan – 250
            Kuririn – 206
            Yamcha – 177
            Chaozu – 150
            Yajirobe – 145
            Muten Roshi – 139

            Kaio of the North – 5,000
            Enma Daio – 2,500
            Kami of Earth – 325
            Mr. Popo – 275

            Raditz – 1,200
            Oozaru – 12,000[/spoiler]

            Saiyan Arc


            [spoiler]Son Goku – 8,000
            Kaio-Ken x2 – 16,000
            Kaio-Ken x3 – 24,000
            Kaio-Ken x4 – 32,000

            Son Gohan – 1,200
            Enraged – 2,800
            Oozaru – 12,000

            Piccolo – 2,500
            Tenshinhan – 1,800
            Kuririn – 1,500
            Yamcha – 1,300
            Chaozu – 1,000
            Yajirobe – 800

            Saibaimen – 1,200

            Nappa – 7,500
            Oozaru – 75,000

            Vegeta – 18,000
            Oozaru – 180,000[/spoiler]

            Namek Arc

            [spoiler]Son Goku – 60,000
            Kaio-Ken x3 – 180,000
            Kaio-Ken x10 – 600,000

            Vegeta – 24,000
            Post-recovery – 30,000
            Post-recovery 2 – 50,000

            Son Gohan – 1,500
            Power Unlocked – 12,000
            Post-recovery – 30,000

            Kuririn – 1,500
            Power Unlocked – 11,000

            Dende – 250
            Power Unlocked – 1,000

            Muri – 1,500
            Young Namekians – 3,000
            Nail – 42,000

            Freeza – 530,000
            Freeza Soldiers – 1,250
            Kwi – 18,000
            Dodoria – 20,000

            Zarbon – 22,000
            Transformed – 29,000

            Gurd – 2,500
            Recoome – 40,000
            Butta – 40,000
            Jheese – 40,000
            Captain Ginyu – 120,000[/spoiler]

            Freeza Arc

            [spoiler]Son Goku – 2,000,000
            Kaio-Ken x10 – 20,000,000
            Kaio-Ken x20 – 40,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 100,000,000

            Vegeta – 500,000
            Post-recovery – 1,750,000

            Son Gohan – 100,000
            Enraged – 750,000
            Post-recovery – 400,000
            Enraged – 1,500,000

            Piccolo – 120,000
            Merged with Nail – 1,200,000

            Kuririn – 11,000

            Freeza – 530,000
            Second Form – 800,000
            Power-Up 1 – 900,000
            Power-Up 2 – 1,050,000
            Third Form – 1,575,000
            True Form – 2,100,000
            50% Power – 47,500,000
            70% Power – 66,500,000
            100% Power – 95,000,000[/spoiler]

            Mecha Freeza Arc

            [spoiler]Son Goku – 2,500,000
            Super Saiyan – 125,000,000

            Trunks – 2,400,000
            Super Saiyan – 120,000,000

            Vegeta – 2,000,000
            Piccolo – 1,500,000
            Son Gohan – 400,000
            Tenshinhan – 16,000
            Kuririn – 12,000
            Yamcha – 8,000
            Chaozu – 4,000

            Freeza Soldiers – 1,250
            King Cold – 90,000,000
            Mecha Freeza – 100,000,000[/spoiler]

            Future Arc I

            [spoiler]Future Gohan – 1,500,000
            Super Saiyan – 75,000,000
            Post-training – 2,250,000
            Super Saiyan – 112,500,000

            Kid Trunks – 25,000
            Post-training – 40,000
            Super Saiyan – 2,000,000

            Future Android 18 – 195,000,000
            Future Android 17 – 200,000,000[/spoiler]


            Artificial Human Arc

            [spoiler]Son Goku – 3,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 150,000,000

            Vegeta – 3,150,000
            Super Saiyan – 157,500,000
            Post-RoSaT – 6,500,000
            Super Saiyan – 325,000,000
            Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 487,500,000
            Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 650,000,000

            Trunks – 2,650,000
            Super Saiyan – 132,500,000
            Post-RoSaT – 6,250,000
            Super Saiyan – 312,500,000
            Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 468,750,000
            Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 625,000,000

            Piccolo – 120,000,000
            Super Namekian – 200,000,000

            Gohan – 2,000,000
            Tenshinhan – 20,000
            Kuririn – 15,000
            Yamcha – 10,000
            Chaozu – 5,000

            Android 19 – 60,000,000
            Post-absorption – 90,000,000

            Android 20 – 65,000,000
            Post-absorption – 97,500,000

            Android 18 – 195,000,000
            Android 17 – 200,000,000
            Android 16 – 250,000,000

            Cell – 175,000,000
            Humans Absorbed – 250,000,000
            Second Form – 325,000,000
            Full Power – 400,000,000
            Perfect Form – 450,000,000
            Power Up – 600,000,000
            Bulked Up – 735,000,000[/spoiler]

            Cell Games Arc
            [spoiler]Son Gohan – 37,500,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,875,000,000
            Super Saiyan 2 – 3,750,000,000
            Injured – 1,800,000,000

            Son Goku – 32,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,600,000,000

            Vegeta – 25,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,250,000,000

            Trunks – 24,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,200,000,000

            Piccolo – 1,000,000,000
            Android 16 – 250,000,000

            Cell Juniors – 1,275,000,000

            Perfect Cell – 1,650,000,000
            Full Speed – 1,875,000,000
            Full Power – 2,250,000,000
            Bulked Up – 2,750,000,000
            "Super Perfect" – 3,000,000,000[/spoiler]

            Future Arc II

            [spoiler]Trunks – 24,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,200,000,000
            3 Years Later – 27,500,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,375,000,000

            Future Android 18 – 195,000,000
            Future Android 17 – 200,000,000
            Cell – 250,000,000[/spoiler]


            Buu Arc

            [spoiler]Son Goku – 40,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 2,000,000,000
            Super Saiyan 2 – 4,000,000,000
            Super Saiyan 3 – 10,000,000,000

            Vegeta – 36,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,800,000,000
            Super Saiyan 2 – 3,600,000,000
            Super Saiyan 2 [Majin boost] – 4,000,000,000

            Son Gohan – 30,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,500,000,000
            Super Saiyan 2 – 3,000,000,000
            Ultimate – 25,000,000,000

            Son Goten – 20,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,000,000,000
            Post-RoSaT – 25,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,250,000,000

            Trunks – 21,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,050,000,000
            Post-RoSaT – 25,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,250,000,000

            Gotenks – 160,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 8,000,000,000
            Post-RoSaT – 200,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 10,000,000,000
            Super Saiyan 3 – 20,000,000,000

            Vegetto – 1,200,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 60,000,000,000

            Piccolo – 1,300,000,000
            Android 18 – 195,000,000
            Tenshinhan – 25,000
            Kuririn – 12,500
            Yamcha – 8,000
            Chaozu – 6,000
            Dende – 2,500

            Grand Kaioshin – 7,500,000,000
            Kaioshin of the South – 10,000,000,000
            Kaioshin of the North – 2,000,000,000
            Kaioshin of the West – 1,750,000,000

            Rou Kaioshin – 1,000,000
            Kibito – 10,000,000
            Kaioshin of the East - 1,500,000,000
            Merged – 8,500,000,000

            Babidi – 10
            Pui Pui – 22,500
            Yakon – 45,000,000
            Dabra – 3,000,000,000

            Pure Boo – 10,000,000,000
            Buff Boo – 20,000,000,000
            Majin Boo – 9,000,000,000
            Evil Boo – 5,000,000,000
            Good Boo – 4,000,000,000
            Super Boo – 16,000,000,000
            + Gotenks – 36,000,000,000
            + Son Gohan – 41,000,000,000[/spoiler]

            28th Tenkaichi Budokai Arc

            [spoiler]Son Goku – 50,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 2,500,000,000
            Super Saiyan 2 – 5,000,000,000
            Super Saiyan 3 – 12,500,000,000

            Vegeta – 45,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 2,250,000,000
            Super Saiyan 2 – 4,500,000,000

            Son Goten – 30,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,500,000,000

            Trunks – 30,000,000
            Super Saiyan – 1,500,000,000

            Son Gohan – 25,000,000,000
            Mister Boo – 4,000,000,000
            Piccolo – 1,750,000,000
            Oob – 50,000,000
            Pan – 2,000,000[/spoiler]

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            Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

            Post by TheUltimateNinja » Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:26 pm

            LightBing wrote:
            DanielSSJ wrote:I personally think the mass amount of extra strength that Evil Boo gets comes from South Kaioshin. Boo on Kaioshin absorption works more like a fusion, which allows Buff Boo and Evil Boo to be a many times stronger than Pure Boo, and for Fat Boo to be weaker than Pure Boo. So when Fat Boo splits into good and evil halves, then recombines with evil in charge, Boo now has access to a lot more of the power that South Kaioshin provided. But those are just my two cents.
            Interesting theory, when Mr.Boo was removed Boo regressed to Buff Boo first instead of going directly to it's original form. Now, does this work number wise? Let's assume SSJ Gotenks(post-RoSaT) is moderately stronger than SSJ3 Goku, who's moderately stronger than Pure Boo. Also Mr.Boo is around SSJ2 Vegeta power.

            Something like:
            SSJ 3 Gotenks - 40
            Super Boo - 36/37
            SSJ Gotenks - 10
            SSJ3 Goku - 9
            Pure Boo - 8
            SSJ2 Goku - 2,25

            So Super Boo would be: 8 + 2,25 + South Kaioshin. This would make South Kaioshin around 26/27 in this scale, which obviously wouldn't work because he would finger flick Pure Boo.
            I used to give Gotenks lower SSJ multipliers for this reason.

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            Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

            Post by DanielSSJ » Wed Feb 22, 2017 2:53 pm

            LightBing wrote:Interesting theory, when Mr.Boo was removed Boo regressed to Buff Boo first instead of going directly to it's original form. Now, does this work number wise? Let's assume SSJ Gotenks(post-RoSaT) is moderately stronger than SSJ3 Goku, who's moderately stronger than Pure Boo. Also Mr.Boo is around SSJ2 Vegeta power.

            Something like:
            SSJ 3 Gotenks - 40
            Super Boo - 36/37
            SSJ Gotenks - 10
            SSJ3 Goku - 9
            Pure Boo - 8
            SSJ2 Goku - 2,25

            So Super Boo would be: 8 + 2,25 + South Kaioshin. This would make South Kaioshin around 26/27 in this scale, which obviously wouldn't work because he would finger flick Pure Boo.
            That's why I said Boo + Kaioshin functions like a fusion. It doesn't work like addition, otherwise Boo would've gotten stronger by absorbing the Grand Kaioshin, not weaker. Mixing Pure Boo's raw unfiltered power and South Kaioshin's muscular physique which is suited for fighting creates a being many times stronger than either of them, whereas adding Grand Kaioshin's chubby body and pure, kind heart, which is in direct conflict with Boo's chaotic evil nature, severely limits that amazing strength. Then, when Fat Boo is divided into good and evil halves, and evil takes control, Grand Kaioshin's influence is lessened considerably, and Boo now has a greater level of access to that strength that merging with South Kaioshin created.

            Number wise, the whole thing looks like this:
            • Pure Majin Boo: 10
              (Our starting point.)

              South Kaioshin: 2.5
              (Pretty strong for a Kaioshin, but nothing compared to Boo.)

              Buff Majin Boo: 50
              (Boo's power + South Kaioshin's muscles = a crazy strong Majin.)

              Fat Majin Boo: 5
              • Pure Good: 2
                Pure Evil: 3
              (Adding Grand Kaioshin's kind heart ruins the formula though. When they divide, the evil half takes the lion's share of strength, and the good half keeps what's left.)

              Evil Boo: 40
              • + Gotenks: 80
                + Gohan: 100
              (The two Boo's recombine with evil in charge. Grand Kaioshin's influence is lessened considerably, and most of Buff Boo's strength returns. He gets even stronger by absorbing Saiyans)
            Now onto the good guys:
            • Super Saiyan 3 Son Goku: 10
              (More-or-less as strong as Pure Boo)

              Super Gotenks: 5
              • Super Saiyan 3: 40
              (I personally think that post-RoSaT Super Saiyan Gotenks is about as strong as Fat Boo. Super Saiyan 3 puts him on the same level as Evil Boo)

              Ultimate Son Gohan: 60
              (Strongest non-fused character.)

              Super Vegetto: 250
              (Strongest character in the original manga.)
            This is all really simplified, though.
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            Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

            Post by ekrolo2 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:14 pm

            So the Boo system would work like this?

            Pure + South Kaioshin = Buff Boo

            Pure + South + Dai Kaioshin = Fat Boo

            Grey + Fat = Super Boo

            Is that how it works?
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            Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

            Post by Desassina » Wed Feb 22, 2017 3:26 pm

            I think that it's easier the way below. To take is to divide, and to add is to multiply, both with a scale doing the opposite.
            Kid Boo (400) * South Kaioshin (200) / Scale (100) = Buff Boo (800)
            Buff Boo (800) * Dai Kaioshin (20) / Scale (100) = Majin Boo (160)

            (Majin Boo (160) / Evil (125)) * Scale (100) = Good Boo (128)
            Kid Boo (400) * Evil (125) / Scale (100) = Evil Boo (500)

            Good Boo (128) * Evil Boo (500) / Scale (100) = Super Boo (640)
            (Super Boo (640) / Majin Boo (160)) * Scale (100) = Kid Boo (400)
            And look: it returned the values to what they were.

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            Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

            Post by VegetaSSJBlue » Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:08 pm

            POWER MULTIPLIERS

            Super Saiyan – 5x
            Super Saiyan 2 – 10x
            Super Saiyan 3 – 25x


            Buu Arc

            Son Goku – 600
            Super Saiyan – 3.000
            Super Saiyan 2 – 6.000
            Super Saiyan 3 – 15.000

            Vegeta – 540
            Super Saiyan – 2.700
            Super Saiyan 2 – 5.400
            Super Saiyan 2 [Majin boost] – 6.000

            Son Gohan – 450
            Super Saiyan – 2.250
            Super Saiyan 2 – 4.500
            Ultimate – 45.000

            Son Goten – 300
            Super Saiyan – 1.500
            Post-RoSaT – 375
            Super Saiyan – 1.875

            Trunks – 315
            Super Saiyan – 1.575
            Post-RoSaT – 375
            Super Saiyan – 1.875

            Gotenks – 3.000
            Super Saiyan – 15.000
            Post-RoSaT – 3.750
            Super Saiyan – 18.750
            Super Saiyan 3 – 37.500

            Vegetto – 30.000
            Super Saiyan – 150.000

            Piccolo – 2.000
            Android 18 – 300
            Tenshinhan – 60
            Kuririn – 30
            Yamcha – 20
            Chaozu – 15

            Grand Kaioshin – 10.000
            Kaioshin of the South – 17.500
            Kaioshin of the North – 3.000
            Kaioshin of the West – 2.500

            Rou Kaioshin – 45
            Kibito – 225
            Kaioshin of the East - 2.250
            Merged – 12.500

            Babidi – 5
            Pui Pui – 100
            Yakon – 800
            Dabra – 4.000

            Pure Boo – 15.000
            Buff Boo – 32.500
            Majin Boo – 13.500
            Evil Boo – 7.500
            Good Boo – 6.000
            Super Boo – 30.000
            + Gotenks – 67.5000
            + Son Gohan – 75.000

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