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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by Bullza » Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:36 pm

The gr wrote:so what's your opinion
It's largely similar to what I have except I have Base Goku at 70 million in the Buu saga with no real improvement by the Beerus saga because of a lack of worthwhile training. Even in Yo Son Goku he said he was getting rusty.

I have Base Goku at 40 million in the Cell Games. Gohan has to be above that by a decent bit. Vegeta in the Buu saga above even that and then Goku would be a good chunk ahead of that if Vegeta had to let himself be taken over and receive a boost in power just to get to where Goku is.

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Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

Post by The gr » Tue Apr 11, 2017 4:01 pm

Bullza wrote:
The gr wrote:so what's your opinion
It's largely similar to what I have except I have Base Goku at 70 million in the Buu saga with no real improvement by the Beerus saga because of a lack of worthwhile training. Even in Yo Son Goku he said he was getting rusty.

I have Base Goku at 40 million in the Cell Games. Gohan has to be above that by a decent bit. Vegeta in the Buu saga above even that and then Goku would be a good chunk ahead of that if Vegeta had to let himself be taken over and receive a boost in power just to get to where Goku is.
I guess your right,70,000,000 seems to be a good number for base goku Buu Saga, meanwhile I will a little increase about 71,210,100 in bog, but my list is in my preference, but now I will continue this series with the prince of all saiyans
    Vegeta[spoiler]
      kid Vegeta:12,000
        Vegeta:18,000,zenkai:24,000,2nd zenkai:32,000
          the battle with frieza:480,000,the ultimate zenkai:2,500,000
            Mecha frieza:3,000,0000
              the arrival of the androids:5,000,000, super Saiyan:250,000,000
                Preventing perfection:14,000,000, super Saiyan:700,000,000, grade 2:1,050,000,000
                  The cell games:20,000,000, Super saiyan:1,000,000,000
                    majin Buu arc:45,000,000,ss1:2,250,000,000,ss2:4,500,000,000, majin:5,000,000
                      the battle with kid Buu:50,000,000,ss1:2,500,000,000,ss2;5,000,000,000[/spoiler]
                        and the warrior with potential [spoiler] Son gohan
                          the beginning:1, raged:1,307
                            the arrival of the saiyans:981, enraged:2,500
                              namek:1,500, guru unlock:15,000
                                the fight with frieza:100,000, angry:1,000,000
                                  vs 3rd form frieza :200,000, angry;1,999,999,000
                                    Mecha frieza:280,000
                                      The Arrival of artificial monster:2,280,708
                                        [/spoiler][spoiler] Part 2
                                          the cell games:42,000,000,ss1:2,100,000,000,ss2:4,200,000,000
                                            7 years of peace:34,360,000,ss1:1,718,000,000
                                              the revival of majin Buu:35,000,000,ss1:1,750,000,000,ss2:3,500,000,000
                                                the ultimate warrior is born:60,000,000,000, minimal zenkai:60,000,420,000[/spoiler]so do anyone have opinion on this, Because I think high ball ultimate Gohan
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                                                Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

                                                Post by VegetaSSJBlue » Fri Apr 14, 2017 3:41 pm

                                                Dragon Ball Power Levels


                                                Dragon Ball Arc


                                                [spoiler]Son Goku – 30
                                                Oozaru – 300

                                                Muten Roshi – 64
                                                Gyuumao– 55
                                                Yamcha – 25
                                                Kuririn – 20
                                                Chi Chi – 15[/spoiler]


                                                21st Tenkaichi Budokai Arc


                                                [spoiler]Son Goku – 60
                                                Oozaru – 600

                                                Muten Roshi – 64
                                                Nam– 54
                                                Kuririn – 45
                                                Giran– 40
                                                Yamcha – 30
                                                Ran Fan – 27
                                                Bacterian – 25[/spoiler]


                                                Red Ribbon Army Arc


                                                [spoiler]Son Goku – 64
                                                After Karin’s training – 95

                                                Karin– 100
                                                Arale Norimaki – 66
                                                Bora– 56
                                                Kuririn – 45

                                                Ninja Murasaki– 35
                                                Assistant Black – 40
                                                Sergeant Metallic– 46
                                                Pirate Robot – 48
                                                General Blue – 50
                                                Buyon – 60
                                                Android 8– 70
                                                Tao Pai Pai – 80[/spoiler]


                                                Uranai Baba’s Tournament Arc


                                                [spoiler]Son Goku – 95
                                                Kuririn – 45
                                                Yamcha– 30

                                                Dracula Man – 20
                                                Invisible Man– 25
                                                Mummy Man – 60
                                                Akkuman – 75
                                                Grandpa Gohan – 90[/spoiler]



                                                22nd Tenkaichi Budokai Arc


                                                [spoiler]Son Goku – 165
                                                Tenshinhan– 160
                                                Muten Roshi – 150
                                                Tsuru– 140
                                                Kuririn – 123
                                                Yamcha – 120
                                                Chiaotzu– 110
                                                King Chapa – 100
                                                Panput – 40
                                                Wolf Man – 30[/spoiler]


                                                Piccolo Daimao Arc


                                                [spoiler]Son Goku – 165
                                                After drinking Ultra Divine Water – 240

                                                Tenshinhan– 160
                                                Yajirobe– 155
                                                Muten Roshi – 150
                                                Kuririn – 123
                                                Yamcha – 120

                                                Cymbal – 100
                                                Tambourine – 145
                                                Drum– 185

                                                Piccolo Daimao– 200
                                                Youth restored – 235[/spoiler]



                                                23rd Tenkaichi Budokai Arc


                                                [spoiler]Son Goku – 400
                                                Piccolo – 395
                                                Kami of Earth – 300
                                                Mr. Popo – 265
                                                Tenshinhan– 245
                                                Kuririn – 203
                                                Yamcha – 175
                                                Tao Pai Pai [Cyborg] – 170
                                                Chaozu – 160
                                                Yajirobe – 155
                                                King Chapa – 120
                                                Chi Chi– 60[/spoiler]


                                                Raditz Arc


                                                [spoiler]Son Gohan – 1
                                                Enraged – 1,307

                                                Son Goku– 416
                                                Piccolo – 408
                                                Tenshinhan – 250
                                                Kuririn – 206
                                                Yamcha – 177
                                                Chaozu – 165
                                                Yajirobe – 155
                                                Muten Roshi – 139

                                                Kaio of the North – 4,000
                                                Enma Daio – 2,000
                                                Kami of Earth – 300
                                                Mr. Popo – 265
                                                Karin– 100

                                                Raditz – 1,200
                                                Oozaru – 12,000[/spoiler]


                                                Saiyan Arc


                                                [spoiler]Son Goku – 8,250
                                                Kaio-Ken x2 – 16,500
                                                Kaio-Ken x3 – 24,750
                                                Kaio-Ken x4 – 33,000

                                                Son Gohan – 1,250
                                                Enraged – 2,800
                                                Oozaru – 12,500

                                                Piccolo – 2,500
                                                Tenshinhan – 1,800
                                                Kuririn – 1,500
                                                Yamcha – 1,300
                                                Chaozu – 1,050
                                                Yajirobe – 1,000

                                                Saibaimen – 1,200

                                                Nappa – 8,000
                                                Oozaru – 80,000

                                                Vegeta – 18,000
                                                Oozaru – 180,000[/spoiler]


                                                Namek Arc


                                                [spoiler]Son Goku – 90,000
                                                Kaio-Ken x2 – 180,000
                                                Kaio-Ken x10 – 900,000

                                                Vegeta – 24,000
                                                Post-recovery – 29,500
                                                Post-recovery 2 – 50,000

                                                Son Gohan – 1,500
                                                Power Unlocked – 12,500
                                                Post-recovery – 25,000

                                                Kuririn – 1,500
                                                Power Unlocked – 12,000

                                                Dende – 200
                                                Power Unlocked – 1,000

                                                Old Namekians – 1,500
                                                Young Namekians – 3,000
                                                Nail – 42,000

                                                Freeza Soldiers – 1,000
                                                Kwi – 18,000
                                                Dodoria – 20,000

                                                Zarbon – 22,000
                                                Transformed – 28,000

                                                Gurd – 1,000
                                                Recoome – 40,000
                                                Butta – 40,000
                                                Jheese – 40,000
                                                Captain Ginyu – 120,000
                                                Freeza – 200,000[/spoiler]


                                                Freeza Arc


                                                [spoiler]Son Goku – 200,000
                                                Kaio-Ken x10 – 2,000,000
                                                Kaio-Ken x20 – 4,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan – 10,000,000

                                                Vegeta – 500,000
                                                Post-recovery – 1,700,000

                                                Son Gohan – 100,000
                                                Enraged – 800,000
                                                Post-recovery – 200,000
                                                Enraged – 1,500,000

                                                Piccolo – 110,000
                                                Merged with Nail – 1,100,000

                                                Kuririn – 12,000

                                                Freeza – 200,000
                                                Full Power – 530,000
                                                Second Form – 848,000
                                                Power Up – 954,000
                                                Full Power – 1,060,000
                                                Third Form – 1,590,000
                                                True Form – 2,120,000
                                                50% Power – 4,240,000
                                                70% Power – 5,936,000
                                                100% Power – 8,480,000[/spoiler]


                                                Mecha Freeza Arc


                                                [spoiler]Son Goku – 2,200,000
                                                Super Saiyan – 11,000,000

                                                Trunks – 2,100,000
                                                Super Saiyan – 10,500,000

                                                Vegeta – 2,000,000
                                                Piccolo – 1,500,000
                                                Son Gohan – 200,000
                                                Tenshinhan – 20,000
                                                Kuririn – 12,000
                                                Yamcha – 8,000
                                                Chaozu – 4,000

                                                Freeza Soldiers – 1,000
                                                King Cold – 8,000,000
                                                Mecha Freeza – 9,500,000[/spoiler]


                                                Future Arc I


                                                [spoiler]Future Gohan – 2,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan – 10,000,000

                                                Kid Trunks – 400,000
                                                Super Saiyan – 2,000,000

                                                Future Android 18 – 18,750,000
                                                Future Android 17 – 20,000,000[/spoiler]


                                                Artificial Human Arc


                                                [spoiler]Vegeta – 2,500,000
                                                Super Saiyan – 12,500,000

                                                Son Goku – 2,400,000
                                                Super Saiyan – 12,000,000

                                                Trunks – 2,200,000
                                                Super Saiyan – 11,000,000

                                                Piccolo – 10,000,000
                                                Gohan – 2,000,000
                                                Tenshinhan – 25,000
                                                Kuririn – 15,000
                                                Yamcha – 10,000
                                                Chaozu – 5,000

                                                Android 19 – 4,000,000
                                                Post-absorption – 6,000,000

                                                Android 20 – 5,000,000
                                                Post-absorption – 7,500,000

                                                Android 18 – 18,750,000
                                                Android 17 – 20,000,000
                                                Android 16 – 24,000,000

                                                Cell – 16,000,000[/spoiler]


                                                Cell Arc


                                                [spoiler]Vegeta – 6,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan – 30,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 45,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 60,000,000

                                                Trunks – 5,600,000
                                                Super Saiyan – 28,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 42,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 56,000,000

                                                Piccolo – 20,000,000

                                                Android 18 – 18,750,000
                                                Android 17 – 20,000,000
                                                Android 16 – 24,000,000

                                                Cell – 24,000,000
                                                Second Form – 30,000,000
                                                Full Power – 35,000,000
                                                Perfect Form – 40,000,000
                                                Power Up – 54,000,000
                                                Bulked Up – 67,500,000[/spoiler]


                                                Cell Games Arc


                                                [spoiler]Son Gohan – 30,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan – 150,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan 2 – 300,000,000

                                                Son Goku – 24,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan – 120,000,000

                                                Vegeta – 18,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan – 90,000,000

                                                Trunks – 18,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan – 90,000,000

                                                Piccolo – 60,000,000
                                                Android 16 – 24,000,000

                                                Cell Juniors – 90,000,000

                                                Perfect Cell – 125,000,000
                                                Full Speed – 150,000,000
                                                Full Power – 187,500,000
                                                Bulked Up – 234,375,000
                                                "Super Perfect" – 250,000,000[/spoiler]


                                                Future Arc II


                                                [spoiler]Trunks – 18,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan – 90,000,000
                                                3 Years Later – 22,500,000
                                                Super Saiyan – 112,500,000

                                                Future Android 18 – 18,750,000
                                                Future Android 17 – 20,000,000
                                                Cell – 24,000,000[/spoiler]


                                                Buu Arc


                                                [spoiler]Son Goku – 32,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan – 160,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan 2 – 320,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan 3 – 640,000,000

                                                Vegeta – 28,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan – 140,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan 2 – 280,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan 2 [Majin boost] – 320,000,000

                                                Son Gohan – 25,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan – 125,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan 2 – 250,000,000
                                                Ultimate – 1,800,000,000

                                                Trunks – 21,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan – 105,000,000
                                                Post-RoSaT – 24,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan – 120,000,000

                                                Son Goten – 20,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan – 100,000,000
                                                Post-RoSaT – 24,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan – 120,000,000

                                                Gotenks – 120,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan – 600,000,000
                                                Post-RoSaT – 150,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan – 750,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan 3 – 1,500,000,000

                                                Vegetto – 2,500,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan – 12,500,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan 2 – 25,000,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan 3 – 50,000,000,000

                                                Piccolo – 120,000,000
                                                Android 18 – 18,750,000
                                                Tenshinhan – 30,000
                                                Kuririn – 12,000
                                                Yamcha – 8,000
                                                Chaozu – 6,000
                                                Dende – 2,500

                                                Kibito – 1,000,000
                                                Kaioshin of the East - 100,000,000
                                                Merged – 500,000,000

                                                Pui Pui– 20,000
                                                Yakon – 40,000,000
                                                Dabra – 200,000,000

                                                Pure Boo – 637,500,000
                                                Buff Boo – 1,300,000,000
                                                Majin Boo – 600,000,000
                                                Evil Boo – 325,000,000
                                                Good Boo – 275,000,000
                                                Super Boo – 1,200,000,000
                                                + Piccolo – 1,320,000,000
                                                + Gotenks – 2,700,000,000
                                                + Son Gohan – 3,000,000,000[/spoiler]


                                                28th Tenkaichi Budokai Arc


                                                [spoiler]Son Goku – 40,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan – 200,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan 2 – 400,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan 3 – 800,000,000

                                                Vegeta – 40,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan – 200,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan 2 – 400,000,000

                                                Son Goten – 30,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan – 150,000,000

                                                Trunks – 30,000,000
                                                Super Saiyan – 150,000,000

                                                Son Gohan – 1,800,000,000
                                                Mister Boo– 275,000,000
                                                Piccolo – 180,000,000
                                                Oob – 40,000,000
                                                Pan – 5,000,000[/spoiler]

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                                                Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

                                                Post by Bullza » Fri Apr 14, 2017 6:03 pm

                                                So I've moved from Dragon Ball to Dragon Ball Z now. I'm not gonna put the whole thing out there, I'm just gonna do up through the Namek saga for now and again if people could comment on it so I can change it up if need be before moving on then I think it'd be easier to change.

                                                Raditz Saga

                                                Goku (Weights) – 334 
                                                Goku – 416 

                                                Piccolo (Weights) – 322 
                                                Piccolo – 408 

                                                Gohan (Enraged) – 1,307 
                                                Tien – 250 
                                                Krillin – 206 
                                                Yamcha – 177 
                                                Chiaotzu – 150
                                                Master Roshi – 139 

                                                Raditz – 1,500 
                                                King Kai – 2,500 
                                                King Yemma – 2,000

                                                Vegeta Saga

                                                Goku – 8,000 
                                                Goku (Kaioken x2) – 16,000 
                                                Goku (Kaioken x3) – 24,000 
                                                Goku (Kaioken x4) – 32,000 

                                                Piccolo – 2,500 
                                                Tien – 1,830 
                                                Krillin – 1,770 
                                                Yamcha – 1,480 
                                                Gohan – 1,400 
                                                Yajirobe – 970 
                                                Chiaotzu - 610 

                                                Vegeta – 18,000 
                                                Oozaru Vegeta – 180,000 
                                                Nappa – 4,000 
                                                Saibamen – 1,200 

                                                Namek Saga

                                                Krillin (w/weights) – 1,500 
                                                Krillin – 1,870 
                                                Gohan – 1,500 

                                                Vegeta – 24,000 
                                                Vegeta (Zenaki) – 30,000 

                                                Frieza (First Form) – 530,000 
                                                Zarbon – 20,000 
                                                Zarbon (Transformed) – 30,000 
                                                Dodoria – 19,000 
                                                Cui – 18,000 

                                                Captain Ginyu Saga

                                                Goku – 90,000 
                                                Goku (Kaioken) – 180,000 

                                                Gohan – 14,000 
                                                Krillin – 13,000 

                                                Vegeta – 30,000 
                                                Vegeta (Zenkai) – 480,000 
                                                Nail – 42,000 

                                                Captain Ginyu – 120,000 
                                                Captain Ginyu (Goku’s Body) – 23,000 
                                                Recoome – 38,000 
                                                Burter – 38,000 
                                                Jeice – 38,000 
                                                Guldo – 2,000 

                                                Frieza Saga

                                                Goku – 3,000,000 
                                                Goku (Kaioken x20) – 60,000,000 
                                                Super Saiyan Goku – 150,000,000 

                                                Vegeta – 425,000 
                                                Vegeta (Zenkai) – 2,300,000 

                                                Piccolo (w/weights) – 1,300,000
                                                Piccolo – 1,600,000 

                                                Gohan (Angry) – 950,000
                                                Gohan (Zenkai) – 1,100,000
                                                Gohan (Angry) – 1,900,000 

                                                Frieza (First Form) – 530,000 
                                                Frieza (Second Form) – 1,100,000 
                                                Frieza (Second Form; Powering Up) – 1,250,000 
                                                Frieza (Second Form; Full Power) – 1,450,000
                                                Frieza (Third Form) – 2,100,000 
                                                Frieza (Final Form) – 3,200,000 
                                                Frieza (Final Form 50%) – 60,000,000 
                                                Frieza (Final Form 100%) – 120,000,000 


                                                Aside from sticking to the manga power levels, this time around I have gone with some of the Daizenshuu figures and Toriyama's comments except for when it doesn't really suit me which was just with Piccolo, Dodoria and Zarbon

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                                                Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

                                                Post by ekrolo2 » Fri Apr 14, 2017 6:29 pm

                                                Bullza wrote:Frieza (First Form) – 530,000 
                                                Frieza (Second Form) – 1,100,000 
                                                Frieza (Second Form; Powering Up) – 1,250,000 
                                                Frieza (Second Form; Full Power) – 1,450,000
                                                Frieza (Third Form) – 2,100,000 
                                                Frieza (Final Form) – 3,200,000 
                                                Frieza (Final Form 50%) – 60,000,000 
                                                Frieza (Final Form 100%) – 120,000,000 


                                                Aside from sticking to the manga power levels, this time around I have gone with some of the Daizenshuu figures and Toriyama's comments except for when it doesn't really suit me which was just with Piccolo, Dodoria and Zarbon
                                                This is why I dislike the Daizenshuu numbers: they make no sense for Vegeta. The whole point of Vegeta's last power up is to get a feel for how Freeza's power increases and speculate on what his last strength will be like then overshoot it. It makes no sense for Vegeta's zenkai to make him just barely stronger than Freeza's third form but with the 3 million limit, there's no wiggle room to reconcile this stuff.

                                                Making Goku & Freeza 4-5 million in "base" would make a lot more sense.
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                                                Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

                                                Post by The gr » Fri Apr 14, 2017 6:36 pm

                                                Bullza wrote:power levels
                                                I like your list bullza, but there's a flaw In there, zarbon and vegeta shouldn't be 50/50,I say zarbon is around 28,000 or 29,000.My evolution series continue with the earthling with the most potential
                                                  Krillin[spoiler]
                                                    the begining:7,the 21 Budokai:50
                                                      red ribbon army:60
                                                        22 Budokai:140
                                                          23 Budokai:200
                                                            The arrival of raditz:206
                                                              The arrival of vegeta and nappa:1,770
                                                                Namek:1,990,guru unlock:14,000
                                                                  The battle with frieza:75,000
                                                                    The 3 years of training:675,000
                                                                      The cell game:700,000
                                                                        Majin Buu saga:620,000
                                                                          Yo son goku and his friend returns:630,000
                                                                            bog:600,000
                                                                              ROF:730,000
                                                                                The determination boost:1,000,000
                                                                                  The universe survival arc:60,000,000, yeah krillin is quite impressive, but still below the androids and frieza[/spoiler],I'm going to update the saiyans, starting with goku again
                                                                                    Son goku [spoiler] Dragon Ball
                                                                                      emperor pilaf Saga:10, oozaru:100
                                                                                        21 Budokai:70, oozaru:700
                                                                                          red ribbon army:80, after training with korin:140
                                                                                            22 Budokai:180
                                                                                              piccolo daimao saga:260
                                                                                                23 Budokai: weighted:300,no weights:380[/spoiler]
                                                                                                  [spoiler]Dragon Ball z part 1
                                                                                                    Saiyan Saga: with weights:334, with out the weights:416
                                                                                                      his fight with Vegeta:8,000, kaioken x2:16,000,X3:24,000,x4:32,000
                                                                                                        arrival at namek:90,000, kaioken x2:180,000
                                                                                                          the battle with frieza,zenkai:3,000,000, kaioken x10:30,000,000,x20:60,000,000, super Saiyan:150,000,000[/spoiler]
                                                                                                            [spoiler] Dragon Ball z part 2
                                                                                                              the mecha frieza Saga:3,600,000, super Saiyan:180,000,000
                                                                                                                The cell games:40,000,000, Super Saiyan:2,000,000,000
                                                                                                                  The majin Buu saga:70,000,000, super Saiyan:3,500,000,000, super Saiyan 2:7,000,000,000, super Saiyan 3:28,000,000,000
                                                                                                                    yo son goku and his friend returns:69,000,000
                                                                                                                      bog:71,000,000,ss1:3,550,000,000,ss2:7,100,000,000,ss3:28,400,000,000[/spoiler]
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                                                                                                                      Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

                                                                                                                      Post by Bullza » Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:08 pm

                                                                                                                      ekrolo2 wrote:It makes no sense for Vegeta's zenkai to make him just barely stronger than Freeza's third form but with the 3 million limit, there's no wiggle room to reconcile this stuff.
                                                                                                                      Yeah there isn't much space considering Frieza in his second form has to be above 1 million and Vegeta below 3 million and fit everyone inbetween.

                                                                                                                      I could increase the gap by lowering Third Form Frieza to 2,000,000 and raising Vegeta up to 2,400,000. It could still work that way I guess.
                                                                                                                      The gr wrote:I like your list bullza, but there's a flaw In there, zarbon and vegeta shouldn't be 50/50,I say zarbon is around 28,000 or 29,000.My evolution series continue with the earthling with the most potential
                                                                                                                      That's interesting because some people actually have Zarbon higher than Vegeta. I actually had him at 32,000 but then thought it was too close to the Ginyu Force so I lowered it.

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                                                                                                                      Post by ZombieVito » Fri Apr 14, 2017 7:37 pm

                                                                                                                      ekrolo2 wrote:
                                                                                                                      Bullza wrote:Frieza (First Form) – 530,000 
                                                                                                                      Frieza (Second Form) – 1,100,000 
                                                                                                                      Frieza (Second Form; Powering Up) – 1,250,000 
                                                                                                                      Frieza (Second Form; Full Power) – 1,450,000
                                                                                                                      Frieza (Third Form) – 2,100,000 
                                                                                                                      Frieza (Final Form) – 3,200,000 
                                                                                                                      Frieza (Final Form 50%) – 60,000,000 
                                                                                                                      Frieza (Final Form 100%) – 120,000,000 


                                                                                                                      Aside from sticking to the manga power levels, this time around I have gone with some of the Daizenshuu figures and Toriyama's comments except for when it doesn't really suit me which was just with Piccolo, Dodoria and Zarbon
                                                                                                                      This is why I dislike the Daizenshuu numbers: they make no sense for Vegeta. The whole point of Vegeta's last power up is to get a feel for how Freeza's power increases and speculate on what his last strength will be like then overshoot it. It makes no sense for Vegeta's zenkai to make him just barely stronger than Freeza's third form but with the 3 million limit, there's no wiggle room to reconcile this stuff.

                                                                                                                      Making Goku & Freeza 4-5 million in "base" would make a lot more sense.
                                                                                                                      The problem there is that he made second form Freeza way to strong.

                                                                                                                      1,200,000 is the maximum I would place him in that form. 1,800,000 for third form Freeza and 2,400,000 for Vegeta.

                                                                                                                      Those gaps are perfect for me.

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                                                                                                                      Post by Bullza » Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:40 pm

                                                                                                                      ZombieVito wrote:The problem there is that he made second form Freeza way to strong.

                                                                                                                      1,200,000 is the maximum I would place him in that form. 1,800,000 for third form Freeza and 2,400,000 for Vegeta.

                                                                                                                      Those gaps are perfect for me.
                                                                                                                      Well he did power up twice.

                                                                                                                      There was his initial Second form where he said if anything could measure his power then it would be over 1 million.

                                                                                                                      Then after Gohan beat on him he powered up even further, enough for it to be pointed out.

                                                                                                                      Piccolo shows up and with his weights on he fights Frieza for a while with Krillin saying they were even but Vegeta correcting him by saying Piccolo was actually better.

                                                                                                                      But then Frieza stops "faking it" and would seemingly power up again to the point he gets a decisive advantage over Piccolo with Vegeta then saying that his power was limitless.

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                                                                                                                      Post by ZombieVito » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:26 pm

                                                                                                                      Bullza wrote:
                                                                                                                      ZombieVito wrote:The problem there is that he made second form Freeza way to strong.

                                                                                                                      1,200,000 is the maximum I would place him in that form. 1,800,000 for third form Freeza and 2,400,000 for Vegeta.

                                                                                                                      Those gaps are perfect for me.
                                                                                                                      Well he did power up twice.

                                                                                                                      There was his initial Second form where he said if anything could measure his power then it would be over 1 million.

                                                                                                                      Then after Gohan beat on him he powered up even further, enough for it to be pointed out.

                                                                                                                      Piccolo shows up and with his weights on he fights Frieza for a while with Krillin saying they were even but Vegeta correcting him by saying Piccolo was actually better.

                                                                                                                      But then Frieza stops "faking it" and would seemingly power up again to the point he gets a decisive advantage over Piccolo with Vegeta then saying that his power was limitless.
                                                                                                                      While true, he never says he has over 1 million right in that instant. You can easily say that measure is of his full power in that form.

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                                                                                                                      Any reason why Vegeta drops between the Ginyu battle and the Freeza battle?
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                                                                                                                      Post by Bullza » Sat Apr 15, 2017 12:30 am

                                                                                                                      ZombieVito wrote:While true, he never says he has over 1 million right in that instant. You can easily say that measure is of his full power in that form.
                                                                                                                      I guess but then that would be a whole other matter of assuming when exactly he surpassed 1 million. Was it initially? After the first power up? The second?

                                                                                                                      Makes it trickier.
                                                                                                                      DanielSSJ wrote:Any reason why Vegeta drops between the Ginyu battle and the Freeza battle?
                                                                                                                      Oh, no I upped Vegeta and I suppose I forgot I listed him twice. He should be at 480,000.

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                                                                                                                      Post by ZombieVito » Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:04 am

                                                                                                                      Bullza wrote:
                                                                                                                      ZombieVito wrote:While true, he never says he has over 1 million right in that instant. You can easily say that measure is of his full power in that form.
                                                                                                                      I guess but then that would be a whole other matter of assuming when exactly he surpassed 1 million. Was it initially? After the first power up? The second?

                                                                                                                      Makes it trickier.
                                                                                                                      As long as he's over 1 million at his max in the form then it really doesn't matter. Doing this gives you room to manage later gaps and it really doesn't contradict a thing.

                                                                                                                      Freeza [4th form]: 3,000,000+
                                                                                                                      Goku: 3,000,000
                                                                                                                      Vegeta [Zenkai]: 2,400,000
                                                                                                                      Freeza [3rd form]: 1,800,000
                                                                                                                      Gohan [Mad]: 1,600,000
                                                                                                                      Piccolo: 1,250,000
                                                                                                                      Freeza [Full power]: 1,200,000
                                                                                                                      Piccolo [Merged; Weighted]: 1,000,000
                                                                                                                      Freeza [Power up]: 950,000
                                                                                                                      Freeza [2nd form]: 800,000
                                                                                                                      Gohan [Mad]: 700,000
                                                                                                                      Freeza: 530,000
                                                                                                                      Gohan [Zenkai]: 400,000
                                                                                                                      Vegeta: 250,000
                                                                                                                      Gohan: 200,000
                                                                                                                      Piccolo: 125,000
                                                                                                                      Kuririn: 75,000

                                                                                                                      Nice and clean.

                                                                                                                      P.S. It looks great to me to have second form Freeza be exactly 1% of his true full power.

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                                                                                                                      Post by dragonball0900 » Sat Apr 15, 2017 10:19 am

                                                                                                                      Bullza wrote: I guess but then that would be a whole other matter of assuming when exactly he surpassed 1 million. Was it initially? After the first power up? The second?

                                                                                                                      Makes it trickier.
                                                                                                                      I recommend to double his power. 2 times 530,000 is 1,060,000. That's over 1 million. I assume his power being over 1 million is his full power when he fought Piccolo, so initially he could be on the 900,000 numbers. Then with the third form, 2 times 1,060,000 is 2,120,000. Here are my levels:

                                                                                                                      First Form Frieza - 530,000
                                                                                                                      Initial Second Form Frieza - 900,000
                                                                                                                      Second Form Frieza - 1,060,000
                                                                                                                      Piccolo - 1,300,000
                                                                                                                      Gohan Enraged - 2,000,000
                                                                                                                      Third Form Frieza - 2,120,000
                                                                                                                      Vegeta - 2,400,000

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                                                                                                                      Post by Bullza » Sun Apr 16, 2017 2:46 am

                                                                                                                      Was Goku supposed to have grown stronger by the Trunks saga compared to the Namek saga?

                                                                                                                      Almost two years did pass but he did just go to a peaceful planet with weaklings where he just learnt new techniques. His strength shouldn't have grown that much should it?

                                                                                                                      Was there anything to suggest that Trunks was stronger than Goku back on Namek?

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                                                                                                                      Post by GreatSaiyaman123 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 5:06 pm

                                                                                                                      Bullza wrote:Was Goku supposed to have grown stronger by the Trunks saga compared to the Namek saga?

                                                                                                                      Almost two years did pass but he did just go to a peaceful planet with weaklings where he just learnt new techniques. His strength shouldn't have grown that much should it?

                                                                                                                      Was there anything to suggest that Trunks was stronger than Goku back on Namek?
                                                                                                                      Goku received a Zenkai boost from his fight with Freeza so yes, he's at least a bit stronger. He also may have trained alone.
                                                                                                                      Trunks was confident on taking Cyborg Freeza and told him to power up. He should have a good notion of Freeza's power, due to spending a lot of time with Gohan telling him histories. So SSJ Yardrat Goku > SSJ Trunks >/>> Cyborg Freeza >= SSJ Namek Goku.
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                                                                                                                      Dragon Ball Power Levels


                                                                                                                      Dragon Ball Arc


                                                                                                                      [spoiler]Son Goku – 30
                                                                                                                      Oozaru – 300

                                                                                                                      Muten Roshi – 64
                                                                                                                      Gyuumao– 55
                                                                                                                      Yamcha – 25
                                                                                                                      Kuririn – 20
                                                                                                                      Chi Chi – 15[/spoiler]


                                                                                                                      21st Tenkaichi Budokai Arc


                                                                                                                      [spoiler]Son Goku – 60
                                                                                                                      Oozaru – 600

                                                                                                                      Muten Roshi – 64
                                                                                                                      Nam– 54
                                                                                                                      Kuririn – 45
                                                                                                                      Giran– 40
                                                                                                                      Yamcha – 30
                                                                                                                      Ran Fan – 27
                                                                                                                      Bacterian – 25[/spoiler]


                                                                                                                      Red Ribbon Army Arc


                                                                                                                      [spoiler]Son Goku – 64
                                                                                                                      After Karin’s training – 95

                                                                                                                      Karin– 100
                                                                                                                      Arale Norimaki – 66
                                                                                                                      Bora– 56
                                                                                                                      Kuririn – 45

                                                                                                                      Ninja Murasaki– 35
                                                                                                                      Assistant Black – 40
                                                                                                                      Sergeant Metallic– 46
                                                                                                                      Pirate Robot – 48
                                                                                                                      General Blue – 50
                                                                                                                      Buyon – 60
                                                                                                                      Android 8– 70
                                                                                                                      Tao Pai Pai – 80[/spoiler]


                                                                                                                      Uranai Baba’s Tournament Arc


                                                                                                                      [spoiler]Son Goku – 95
                                                                                                                      Kuririn – 45
                                                                                                                      Yamcha– 30

                                                                                                                      Dracula Man – 20
                                                                                                                      Invisible Man– 25
                                                                                                                      Mummy Man – 60
                                                                                                                      Akkuman – 75
                                                                                                                      Grandpa Gohan – 90[/spoiler]



                                                                                                                      22nd Tenkaichi Budokai Arc


                                                                                                                      [spoiler]Son Goku – 165
                                                                                                                      Tenshinhan– 160
                                                                                                                      Muten Roshi – 150
                                                                                                                      Tsuru– 140
                                                                                                                      Kuririn – 123
                                                                                                                      Yamcha – 120
                                                                                                                      Chiaotzu– 110
                                                                                                                      King Chapa – 100
                                                                                                                      Panput – 40
                                                                                                                      Wolf Man – 30[/spoiler]


                                                                                                                      Piccolo Daimao Arc


                                                                                                                      [spoiler]Son Goku – 165
                                                                                                                      After drinking Ultra Divine Water – 240

                                                                                                                      Tenshinhan– 160
                                                                                                                      Yajirobe– 155
                                                                                                                      Muten Roshi – 150
                                                                                                                      Kuririn – 123
                                                                                                                      Yamcha – 120

                                                                                                                      Cymbal – 100
                                                                                                                      Tambourine – 145
                                                                                                                      Drum– 185

                                                                                                                      Piccolo Daimao– 200
                                                                                                                      Youth restored – 235[/spoiler]



                                                                                                                      23rd Tenkaichi Budokai Arc


                                                                                                                      [spoiler]Son Goku – 400
                                                                                                                      Piccolo – 395
                                                                                                                      Kami of Earth – 300
                                                                                                                      Mr. Popo – 265
                                                                                                                      Tenshinhan– 245
                                                                                                                      Kuririn – 203
                                                                                                                      Yamcha – 175
                                                                                                                      Tao Pai Pai [Cyborg] – 170
                                                                                                                      Chaozu – 160
                                                                                                                      Yajirobe – 155
                                                                                                                      King Chapa – 120
                                                                                                                      Chi Chi– 60[/spoiler]


                                                                                                                      Raditz Arc


                                                                                                                      [spoiler]Son Gohan – 1
                                                                                                                      Enraged – 1,307

                                                                                                                      Son Goku– 416
                                                                                                                      Piccolo – 408
                                                                                                                      Tenshinhan – 250
                                                                                                                      Kuririn – 206
                                                                                                                      Yamcha – 177
                                                                                                                      Chaozu – 165
                                                                                                                      Yajirobe – 155
                                                                                                                      Muten Roshi – 139

                                                                                                                      Kaio of the North – 4,000
                                                                                                                      Enma Daio – 2,000
                                                                                                                      Kami of Earth – 300
                                                                                                                      Mr. Popo – 265
                                                                                                                      Karin– 100

                                                                                                                      Raditz – 1,200
                                                                                                                      Oozaru – 12,000[/spoiler]


                                                                                                                      Saiyan Arc


                                                                                                                      [spoiler]Son Goku – 8,250
                                                                                                                      Kaio-Ken x2 – 16,500
                                                                                                                      Kaio-Ken x3 – 24,750
                                                                                                                      Kaio-Ken x4 – 33,000

                                                                                                                      Son Gohan – 1,250
                                                                                                                      Enraged – 2,800
                                                                                                                      Oozaru – 12,500

                                                                                                                      Piccolo – 2,500
                                                                                                                      Tenshinhan – 1,800
                                                                                                                      Kuririn – 1,500
                                                                                                                      Yamcha – 1,300
                                                                                                                      Chaozu – 1,000
                                                                                                                      Yajirobe – 600

                                                                                                                      Saibaimen – 1,200

                                                                                                                      Nappa – 8,000
                                                                                                                      Oozaru – 80,000

                                                                                                                      Vegeta – 18,000
                                                                                                                      Oozaru – 180,000[/spoiler]


                                                                                                                      Namek Arc


                                                                                                                      [spoiler]Son Goku – 90,000
                                                                                                                      Kaio-Ken x2 – 180,000
                                                                                                                      Kaio-Ken x10 – 900,000

                                                                                                                      Vegeta – 24,000
                                                                                                                      Post-recovery – 29,500
                                                                                                                      Post-recovery 2 – 50,000

                                                                                                                      Son Gohan – 1,500
                                                                                                                      Power Unlocked – 12,500
                                                                                                                      Post-recovery – 25,000

                                                                                                                      Kuririn – 1,500
                                                                                                                      Power Unlocked – 12,000

                                                                                                                      Dende – 200
                                                                                                                      Power Unlocked – 1,000

                                                                                                                      Old Namekians – 1,500
                                                                                                                      Young Namekians – 3,000
                                                                                                                      Nail – 42,000

                                                                                                                      Freeza Soldiers – 1,000
                                                                                                                      Kwi – 18,000
                                                                                                                      Dodoria – 20,000

                                                                                                                      Zarbon – 22,000
                                                                                                                      Transformed – 28,000

                                                                                                                      Gurd – 1,000
                                                                                                                      Recoome – 40,000
                                                                                                                      Butta – 40,000
                                                                                                                      Jheese – 40,000
                                                                                                                      Captain Ginyu – 120,000
                                                                                                                      Freeza – 200,000[/spoiler]


                                                                                                                      Freeza Arc


                                                                                                                      [spoiler]Son Goku – 200,000
                                                                                                                      Kaio-Ken x10 – 2,000,000
                                                                                                                      Kaio-Ken x20 – 4,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan – 10,000,000

                                                                                                                      Vegeta – 500,000
                                                                                                                      Post-recovery – 1,600,000

                                                                                                                      Son Gohan – 100,000
                                                                                                                      Enraged – 800,000
                                                                                                                      Post-recovery – 200,000
                                                                                                                      Enraged – 1,300,000

                                                                                                                      Piccolo – 110,000
                                                                                                                      Merged with Nail – 1,100,000

                                                                                                                      Kuririn – 12,000

                                                                                                                      Freeza – 200,000
                                                                                                                      Full Power – 530,000
                                                                                                                      Second Form – 850,000
                                                                                                                      Power Up – 950,000
                                                                                                                      Full Power – 1,050,000
                                                                                                                      Third Form – 1,375,000
                                                                                                                      True Form – 2,125,000
                                                                                                                      50% Power – 4,250,000
                                                                                                                      70% Power – 5,950,000
                                                                                                                      100% Power – 8,500,000[/spoiler]


                                                                                                                      Mecha Freeza Arc


                                                                                                                      [spoiler]Son Goku – 2,200,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan – 11,000,000

                                                                                                                      Trunks – 2,100,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan – 10,500,000

                                                                                                                      Vegeta – 1,800,000
                                                                                                                      Piccolo – 1,500,000
                                                                                                                      Son Gohan – 200,000
                                                                                                                      Tenshinhan – 20,000
                                                                                                                      Kuririn – 12,000
                                                                                                                      Yamcha – 8,000
                                                                                                                      Chaozu – 4,000

                                                                                                                      Freeza Soldiers – 1,000
                                                                                                                      King Cold – 8,000,000
                                                                                                                      Mecha Freeza – 9,750,000[/spoiler]


                                                                                                                      Future Arc I


                                                                                                                      [spoiler]Future Gohan – 2,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan – 10,000,000

                                                                                                                      Kid Trunks – 400,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan – 2,000,000

                                                                                                                      Future Android 18 – 18,500,000
                                                                                                                      Future Android 17 – 20,000,000[/spoiler]


                                                                                                                      Artificial Human Arc


                                                                                                                      [spoiler]Vegeta – 2,500,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan – 12,500,000

                                                                                                                      Son Goku – 2,400,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan – 12,000,000

                                                                                                                      Trunks – 2,200,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan – 11,000,000

                                                                                                                      Piccolo – 10,000,000
                                                                                                                      Gohan – 2,000,000
                                                                                                                      Tenshinhan – 25,000
                                                                                                                      Kuririn – 15,000
                                                                                                                      Yamcha – 10,000
                                                                                                                      Chaozu – 5,000

                                                                                                                      Android 19 – 4,000,000
                                                                                                                      Post-absorption – 6,000,000

                                                                                                                      Android 20 – 5,000,000
                                                                                                                      Post-absorption – 7,500,000

                                                                                                                      Android 18 – 18,500,000
                                                                                                                      Android 17 – 20,000,000
                                                                                                                      Android 16 – 24,000,000

                                                                                                                      Cell – 15,000,000[/spoiler]


                                                                                                                      Cell Arc


                                                                                                                      [spoiler]Vegeta – 6,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan – 30,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 45,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 60,000,000

                                                                                                                      Trunks – 5,800,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan – 29,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan Grade 2 – 43,500,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan Grade 3 – 58,000,000

                                                                                                                      Piccolo – 20,000,000

                                                                                                                      Android 18 – 18,500,000
                                                                                                                      Android 17 – 20,000,000
                                                                                                                      Android 16 – 24,000,000

                                                                                                                      Cell – 24,000,000
                                                                                                                      Second Form – 32,000,000
                                                                                                                      Full Power – 36,000,000
                                                                                                                      Perfect Form – 40,000,000
                                                                                                                      Power Up – 55,000,000
                                                                                                                      Bulked Up – 65,000,000[/spoiler]


                                                                                                                      Cell Games Arc


                                                                                                                      [spoiler]Son Gohan – 28,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan – 140,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan 2 – 280,000,000

                                                                                                                      Son Goku – 24,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan – 120,000,000

                                                                                                                      Vegeta – 18,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan – 90,000,000

                                                                                                                      Trunks – 18,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan – 90,000,000

                                                                                                                      Piccolo – 70,000,000
                                                                                                                      Android 16 – 24,000,000

                                                                                                                      Cell Juniors – 90,000,000

                                                                                                                      Perfect Cell – 125,000,000
                                                                                                                      Full Speed – 145,000,000
                                                                                                                      Full Power – 180,000,000
                                                                                                                      Bulked Up – 225,000,000
                                                                                                                      "Super Perfect" – 240,000,000[/spoiler]


                                                                                                                      Future Arc II


                                                                                                                      [spoiler]Trunks – 18,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan – 90,000,000
                                                                                                                      3 Years Later – 22,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan – 110,000,000

                                                                                                                      Future Android 18 – 18,500,000
                                                                                                                      Future Android 17 – 20,000,000
                                                                                                                      Cell – 24,000,000[/spoiler]


                                                                                                                      Buu Arc


                                                                                                                      [spoiler]Son Goku – 30,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan – 150,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan 2 – 300,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan 3 – 600,000,000

                                                                                                                      Vegeta – 27,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan – 135,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan 2 – 270,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan 2 [Majin boost] – 300,000,000

                                                                                                                      Son Gohan – 24,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan – 120,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan 2 – 240,000,000
                                                                                                                      Ultimate – 1,500,000,000

                                                                                                                      Trunks – 17,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan – 85,000,000
                                                                                                                      Post-RoSaT – 19,200,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan – 96,000,000

                                                                                                                      Son Goten – 16,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan – 80,000,000
                                                                                                                      Post-RoSaT – 19,200,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan – 96,000,000

                                                                                                                      Gotenks – 100,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan – 500,000,000
                                                                                                                      Post-RoSaT – 120,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan – 600,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan 3 – 1,200,000,000

                                                                                                                      Vegetto – 2,000,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan – 10,000,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan 2 – 20,000,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan 3 – 40,000,000,000

                                                                                                                      Piccolo – 100,000,000
                                                                                                                      Android 18 – 18,500,000
                                                                                                                      Tenshinhan – 30,000
                                                                                                                      Kuririn – 12,000
                                                                                                                      Yamcha – 8,000
                                                                                                                      Chaozu – 6,000
                                                                                                                      Dende – 2,500

                                                                                                                      Kibito – 10,000,000
                                                                                                                      Kaioshin of the East - 100,000,000
                                                                                                                      Merged – 500,000,000

                                                                                                                      Pui Pui– 20,000
                                                                                                                      Yakon – 40,000,000
                                                                                                                      Dabra – 200,000,000

                                                                                                                      Pure Boo – 600,000,000
                                                                                                                      Buff Boo – 1,200,000,000
                                                                                                                      Majin Boo – 550,000,000
                                                                                                                      Evil Boo – 300,000,000
                                                                                                                      Good Boo – 250,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Boo – 1,000,000,000
                                                                                                                      + Piccolo – 1,100,000,000
                                                                                                                      + Gotenks – 2,200,000,000
                                                                                                                      + Son Gohan – 2,500,000,000[/spoiler]


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                                                                                                                      [spoiler]Son Goku – 36,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan – 180,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan 2 – 360,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan 3 – 720,000,000

                                                                                                                      Vegeta – 36,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan – 180,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan 2 – 360,000,000

                                                                                                                      Son Goten – 24,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan – 120,000,000

                                                                                                                      Trunks – 24,000,000
                                                                                                                      Super Saiyan – 120,000,000

                                                                                                                      Son Gohan – 1,500,000,000
                                                                                                                      Mister Boo– 250,000,000
                                                                                                                      Piccolo – 125,000,000
                                                                                                                      Oob – 35,000,000
                                                                                                                      Pan – 2,000,000[/spoiler]

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                                                                                                                      Post by Noah » Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:46 pm

                                                                                                                      How strong would Freeza and Cell get if they had become Majin soldiers?
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                                                                                                                      Post by apex_pretador » Tue Apr 18, 2017 10:28 am

                                                                                                                      Noah wrote:How strong would Freeza and Cell get if they had become Majin soldiers?
                                                                                                                      Cell would become as strong as M vegeta

                                                                                                                      Freeza would become atleast as strong as SS3 gotenks in his final form.
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                                                                                                                      Re: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread

                                                                                                                      Post by DBZ Macky » Tue Apr 18, 2017 11:43 am

                                                                                                                      apex_pretador wrote:
                                                                                                                      Noah wrote:How strong would Freeza and Cell get if they had become Majin soldiers?
                                                                                                                      Cell would become as strong as M vegeta

                                                                                                                      Freeza would become atleast as strong as SS3 gotenks in his final form.
                                                                                                                      Didn't Babidi draw out Vegeta's power beyond his limits? Wouldn't "Majin Freeza" be stronger than his Golden Form going by that?
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