Eh, for a human Freeza could be a couple hundred years in age. For a member of his race, I like to imagine that Freeza is a teenager, 14 years of age. But even then its not similar to Freeza, as Freeza was capable of flying and inventing new ki attacksNoah wrote:No, it's not. Goten was a 7 years old kid and Freeza was... I don't know... Probably a couple of hundreds years old alien? So he should have more combat experience and after trained for the first time is rational to think he have learned the basics.Bullza wrote:Well Goten was super strong and he couldn't fly. So it's pretty similar with Frieza.
Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread
Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread
In the manga Vegeta's power was stated to be "almost 30,000" against Recoom; after recovering is when his number becomes debatable: all we know is that he became much stronger than Jheese/Jeice, that the latter was nothing to him; then there's the struggle with Freeza where Vegeta stands his ground and blows up Freeza's scouter as he powers up (to note that if Freeza is using the same scouter model as Ginyu and it had no problem mesuring Goku's power of 180,000, so Vegeta was definitly above that). The conclusion is that Jheese/Jeice is well above 30,000 therefore Vegeta will be much, much higher than that and Freeza's power was 530,000, so Vegeta's has to to be close enough in order to be able hold his own. The guides state he was 250,000 - personally it makes no sense but hey, it's up to you to decide whether you use that number or not.DanielSSJ wrote:The only known power level for Vegeta after the initial fight with the Ginyu force is 250,000.TheUltimateNinja wrote:How strong was Vegeta against Jeice?
As for the part of Goten not being able to fly, remember that flight - or rather, the Bukujutsu - is a technique. Goten didn't appear to know any special techniques at that point, all he seemed to know was basic fighting and basic ki blasts; while sparring with Gohan and Trunks he just improved his fighting technique and at the tournament Goten even admits he can't control his ki blasts very well. It's true he's incredibly powerful but he's still just a kid and won't learn techniques on his own. I'd say Goten's case is like giving a really fast car to someone who is learning how to drive and Freeza's is like someone who is a experienced driver with a fast car that never bothered to tune it up or to improve his driving skills (I hope the analogy makes sense). That's how I see it at least.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread
I'm looking for his power level pre-nap, when he asked Jeice to read his power level. He clearly wasn't at 250,000 back then.DanielSSJ wrote:The only known power level for Vegeta after the initial fight with the Ginyu force is 250,000.TheUltimateNinja wrote:How strong was Vegeta against Jeice?
Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread
Multipliers
Oozaru - 10x base
SSJ - 50x Base
SSJ2 - 100x Base
SSJ3 - 400x Base
Fusions
Dance = [(A+B)] x 2
Potara = [(A+B)] x 6
Dragon Ball Minus
[spoiler]Jaco - 50
Bardock - 2,500
Gine - 500[/spoiler]
Dragon Ball Z
Raditz Arc
[spoiler]Goku
Weighted - 334
Full Power - 416
Piccolo
Weighted - 322
Full Power - 408
Gohan
Base - 1
Anger - 1,307
Raditz - 1,200
Master Roshi - 139
Krillin - 206
Tenshinan - 250
Kami - 300
Mr Popo - 200[/spoiler]
Saiyan Arc
[spoiler]Goku
Suppressed - 5,000
Base - 8000
Kaioken x2 - 16,000
Kaioken x3 - 24,000
Kaioken x4 - 32,000
Gohan
Base - 980
Angered - 2700
Piccolo - 2,500
Krillin - 1,770
Yamcha - 1,480
Tenshinan - 1,830
Yajirobe - 970
Chiaotzu - 610
Saibamen - 1,200
Nappa - 4,000
Vegeta
Base - 18,000
Great Ape Full Power - 180,000
Great Ape - 60,000[/spoiler]
Namek Arc
[spoiler]Goku (Arrival)
Suppressed - 5,000
Base - 90,000
Kaioken vs Ginyu - 120,000
Kaioken x2 - 180,000
Krillin (Power unlocked) - 12,000
Gohan (Power unlocked) - 15,000
Nail - 42,000
Namekian Warriors - 3,000
Vegeta
Base - 24,000
1st Zenkai - 30,000
2nd Zenkai - 250,000
Cui - 18,000
Dodoria - 22,000
Zarbon
Base - 23,000
Transformed - 28,000
Recoome - 40,000
Burter - 50,000
Jeice - 45,000
Guldo - 50
Captain Ginyu - 90,000
Ginyu in Goku’s body - 23,000[/spoiler]
Freezer Arc
[spoiler]Goku after Zenkai
Base - 3,000,000
Kaioken x10 - 30,000,000
Kaioken x20 - 60,000,000
Super Saiyan - 150,000,000
Krillin - 75,000
Gohan after Zenkai
Base - 200,000
Angry - 1,000,000
Piccolo - 1,200,000
Vegeta
Base - 300,000
After Zenkai - 1,500,000
Freezer
1st form - 530,000
2nd form - 1,300,000
3rd form - 3,000,000
Final Form 50% - 60,000,000
Final Form - 120,000,000
100% Form - 150,000,000[/spoiler]
Trunks Arc
[spoiler]Mecha Freezer - 160,000,000
King Cold - 100,000,000
King Cold's soldiers - 1,000
Future Trunks
Base - 3,400,000
SSJ - 170,000,000
Goku
Base - 3,500,000
SSJ - 175,000,000
Vegeta - 3,000,000
Piccolo - 2,500,000
Gohan - 300,000
Krillin - 75,000
Tenshinhan - 20,000
Yamcha - 18,000[/spoiler]
Androids Arc
[spoiler]Goku
Base - 3,600,000
SSJ - 180,000,000
SSJ (Heart Virus) - 90,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 3,800,000
SSJ - 190,000,000
Future Trunks
Base - 3,400,000
SSJ - 170,000,000
Piccolo - 150,000,000
Gohan - 1,200,000
Tenshinhan - 40,000
Krillin - 80,000
Yamcha - 30,000
Android 19 - 120,000,000
Energy Absorbed - 140,000,000
Dr.Gero - 110,000,000
Energy Absorbed - 130,000,000
Android 18 - 240,000,000
Android 17 - 250,000,000[/spoiler]
Cell Arc
[spoiler]Piccolo (Kami)
Full Power - 250,000,000
Worn Out - 240,000,000
Android 16 - 260,000,000
Android 18 - 240,000,000
Android 17 - 250,000,000
Cell
Imperfect - 240,000,000
Humans Absorbed - 250,000,000
Semi Perfect - 300,000,000
Perfect Cell (Suppressed)- 400,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 7,000,000
SSJ - 350,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 90%)
SSJ Grade 2 - 400,000,000 (Speed = 90%, Stamina = 90%)
Trunks
Base - 6,800,000
SSJ - 340,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 90%)
SSJ Grade 2 - 390,000,000 (Speed = 90%, Stamina = 90%)
SSJ Grade 3 - 440,000,000 (Speed = 80%, Stamina = 80%)
(He is slightly weaker than Vegeta, but grade 3 his power level his greater than Cell's, but he lacks the speed necessary to beat him)[/spoiler]
Cell Games
[spoiler]Goku
Base - 14,500,000
FPSSJ - 725,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 100%)
After battle with Cell - 375,000,000
Perfect Cell
Suppressed vs Goku - 700,000,000
Suppressed vs Gohan - 750,000,000
Full Power - 1,000,000,000
Super Perfect - 1,200,000,000
Gohan
Base - 15,000,000
FPSSJ - 750,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 100%)
SSJ2 - 1,500,000,000
Wounded - 1,000,000,000
Father-Son Kamehameha - 1,700,000,000
Cell Jr - 400,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 8,000,000
SSJ - 400,000,000
Trunks
Base - 7,800,000
SSJ - 390,000,000
Piccolo - 400,000,000[/spoiler]
The Future
[spoiler]Future Android 17- 240,000,000
Future Android 18- 230,000,000
Future Gohan
Base - 4,000,000
SSJ - 200,000,000
Trunks
Base - 8,000,000
SSJ - 400,000,000
3 years later - 9,000,000
SSJ - 450,000,000
Future Cell- 240,000,000[/spoiler]
Babidi Arc
[spoiler]Gohan
Base - 10,000,000
SSJ - 500,000,000
Post Training - 12,000,000
FPSSJ - 600,000,000
SSJ2 - 1,200,000,000
Goten
Base - 7,000,000
FPSSJ - 350,000,000
Post Training with Gohan - 8,000,000
FPSSJ - 400,000,000
Trunks
Base - 7,500,000
FPSSJ - 375,000,000
Post Training with Vegeta- 8,500,000
FPSSJ - 425,000,000
Goku
Base - 15,000,000
SSJ - 750,000,000
SSJ2 - 1,500,000,000
SSJ3 Full Power - 6,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 14,800,000
SSJ - 740,000,000
SSJ2 - 1,480,000,000
Majin Vegeta - 1,500,000,000
Krillin - 150,000
Android 18 - 240,000,000
Piccolo - 400,000,000
Kaioshin- 450,000,000
Kibito - 20,000,000
Pui-Pui - 100,000
Yakon - 10,000,000
Dabura - 1,200,000,000
Majin Buu - 2,000,000,000
Gotenks
Base - 28,000,000
SSJ - 1,400,000,000[/spoiler]
Buu Arc
[spoiler]Goten - 9,000,000
Trunks - 9,000,000
Gotenks
Base - 36,000,000
SSJ - 1,800,000,000
SSJ3 - 3,600,000,000
(Gotenks’ SSJ3 multiplier is only 100x)
Mystic Gohan - 4,200,000,000
Super Buu - 3,800,000,000
Buutenks - 7,400,000,000
Buuhan - 8,000,000,000
Kibitoshin - 2,820,000,000
Vegetto
Base - 180,000,000
SSJ - 9,000,000,000
Kid Buu - 5,600,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 15,000,000
SSJ - 750,000,000
SSJ2 - 1,500,000,000
Goku
Base - 15,000,000
SSJ - 750,000,000
SSJ2 - 1,500,000,000
SSJ3 - 4,500,000,000
SSJ3 - 6,000,000,000
(If Goku could use his SSJ3 at full power he would have beaten Kid Buu)
Genkidama - 5,000,000,000
Genkidama + Goku's Boost - 10,000,000,000[/spoiler]
Dragon Ball Super
Battle of Gods Arc
[spoiler]Goku
Base - 15,000,000
SSJ - 700,000,000
SSJ2 - 1,500,000,000
SSJ3 - 6,000,000,000
SSG - 100,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 15,000,000
SSJ - 750,000,000
SSJ2 - 1,500,000,000
SSJ2 Enraged - 7,500,000,000
Beerus
10% (Suppressed) - 10,000,000,000
100% (Suppressed) - 100,000,000,000
True Power - ?
Whis
True Power - ? (Stronger than Beerus)[/spoiler]
Resurrection of Freezer Arc
[spoiler]Goku
Base - 25,000,000
God Ki - 2,500,000,000
SSB - 125,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 25,000,000
God Ki - 2,500,000,000
SSB - 125,000,000,000
(Super Saiyan Blue is 50x their God Ki base)
Freezer
1st Form - 1,000,000,000
4th Form - 3,000,000,000
Golden - 150,000,000,000
Exhausted - 75,000,000,000
(Golden Form is 50x of Freezer's 4th form)
Gohan
Base - 10,000,000
SSJ - 500,000,000
Tagoma
Base - 25,000
Post-Training - 450,000,000
Ginyu - 400,000,000
Shisami - 30,000
Freezer's Soldiers - Average of 100
Piccolo - 400,000,000
Tenshinan - 50,000
Krillin - 70,000
Master Roshi - 200
Jaco- 100[/spoiler]
Champa Tournament Arc
Gods
[spoiler]Whis - ? (Much stronger than Beerus)
Beerus - ?
Vados - ? (Slightly stronger than Whis)
Champa - ? (Slightly weaker than Beerus)[/spoiler]
U7 Fighters
[spoiler]Goku
Base - 30,000,000
SSJ - 1,500,000,000
God Ki - 3,000,000,000
SSB - 150,000,000,000
SSB + KKx2 - 300,000,000,000
SSB + KKx10 - 1,500,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 30,000,000
SSJ - 1,500,000,000
God Ki - 3,000,000,000
SSB - 150,000,000,000
Piccolo - 450,000,000
Mr Buu - 3,000,000,000
Monaka - 1[/spoiler]
U6 Fighters
[spoiler]Botamo - 30,000,000
Frost
1st Form - 5,300,000
Assault Form - 32,000,000
Final Form - 1,200,000,000
Otto Magetta - 2,000,000,000
Cabba
Base - 3,000,000
SSJ - 150,000,000
Hit - ???[/spoiler]
Black Goku Arc
Future
[spoiler]Future Trunks
Base - 28,000,000
SSJ2 - 2,800,000,000
Black
Full Power - 5,000,000,000[/spoiler]
Present
[spoiler]Trunks (1st Zenkai)
Base - 30,000,000
SSJ2 - 3,000,000,000
Black
Full Power - 5,000,000,000
vs Goku - 3,000,000,000
Goku
Base - 30,000,000
SSJ2 - 3,000,000,000
SSJ3 vs Trunks - 4,000,000,000
SSJ3 Full Power - 12,000,000,000
(Goku doesn’t use his full SSJ3 power to knock Trunks out)
Zamasu - 2,500,000,000[/spoiler]
1st Time Travel
[spoiler]Trunks (Post Training)
Base - 30,000,000
SSJ2 - 3,000,000,000
God Ki - 300,000,000
FPSSJ2 - 30,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 30,000,000
God Ki - 3,000,000,000
SSB - 150,000,000,000
Goku
Base - 30,000,000
God Ki - 3,000,000,000
SSB - 150,000,000,000
SSB Wounded - 50,000,000,000
Black (1st Goku Boost)
Base - 5,000,000,000
SSR Full Power - 200,000,000,000
(Super Saiyan Rosè is a 50x boost)
Immortal Zamasu - 5,000,000,000[/spoiler]
2nd Time Travel
[spoiler]Goku (1st Zenkai)
Base - 32,000,000
God Ki - 3,200,000,000
SSB - 160,000,000,000
SSB Rage - 210,000,000,000
Vegeta (1st Zenkai)
Base - 32,000,000
Base with God Ki - 3,200,000,000
SSB - 160,000,000,000
Trunks (2nd Zenkai)
Base - 32,000,000
God Ki - 320,000,000
SSJ2 Full Power - 32,000,000,000
Super Trunks - 192,000,000,000
(Super Trunks is 600x of Trunks’ God Ki)
Black (2nd Goku Boost)
SSR - 215,000,000,000
Immortal Zamasu - 5,000,000,000[/spoiler]
3rd Time Travel
[spoiler]Trunks (3rd Zenkai)
Base - 35,000,000
God Ki - 350,000,000
SSJ2 Full Power - 35,000,000,000
Super Trunks - 210,000,000,000
Vegeta (2nd Zenkai + Training)
Base - 46,000,000
Base with God Ki - 4,600,000,000
SSB - 230,000,000,000
Goku (2nd Zenkai)
Base - 40,000,000
Base with God Ki - 4,000,000,000
SSB - 200,000,000,000
Black
SSR - 220,000,000,000
Future Zamasu - 5,000,000,000[/spoiler]
Fusions
[spoiler]Goku
SSB - 200,000,000,000
SSB + KKx3 - 600,000,000,000
SSB + KKx10 - 2,000,000,000,000
Senzu - 210,000,000,000
(I assume Goku prepared his Kaio-Ken before firing his Kamehameha)
Vegeta
SSB - 230,000,000,000
Senzu - 240,000,000,000
Trunks
Super Trunks (Rage) - 230,000,000,000
Merged Zamasu
Halo - 500,000,000,000
Full Power - 2,500,000,000,000
Giant Form - 1,250,000,000,000
Vegetto
SSB - 2,700,000,000,000
Spirit Sword Trunks - 1,500,000,000,000[/spoiler]
Oozaru - 10x base
SSJ - 50x Base
SSJ2 - 100x Base
SSJ3 - 400x Base
Fusions
Dance = [(A+B)] x 2
Potara = [(A+B)] x 6
Dragon Ball Minus
[spoiler]Jaco - 50
Bardock - 2,500
Gine - 500[/spoiler]
Dragon Ball Z
Raditz Arc
[spoiler]Goku
Weighted - 334
Full Power - 416
Piccolo
Weighted - 322
Full Power - 408
Gohan
Base - 1
Anger - 1,307
Raditz - 1,200
Master Roshi - 139
Krillin - 206
Tenshinan - 250
Kami - 300
Mr Popo - 200[/spoiler]
Saiyan Arc
[spoiler]Goku
Suppressed - 5,000
Base - 8000
Kaioken x2 - 16,000
Kaioken x3 - 24,000
Kaioken x4 - 32,000
Gohan
Base - 980
Angered - 2700
Piccolo - 2,500
Krillin - 1,770
Yamcha - 1,480
Tenshinan - 1,830
Yajirobe - 970
Chiaotzu - 610
Saibamen - 1,200
Nappa - 4,000
Vegeta
Base - 18,000
Great Ape Full Power - 180,000
Great Ape - 60,000[/spoiler]
Namek Arc
[spoiler]Goku (Arrival)
Suppressed - 5,000
Base - 90,000
Kaioken vs Ginyu - 120,000
Kaioken x2 - 180,000
Krillin (Power unlocked) - 12,000
Gohan (Power unlocked) - 15,000
Nail - 42,000
Namekian Warriors - 3,000
Vegeta
Base - 24,000
1st Zenkai - 30,000
2nd Zenkai - 250,000
Cui - 18,000
Dodoria - 22,000
Zarbon
Base - 23,000
Transformed - 28,000
Recoome - 40,000
Burter - 50,000
Jeice - 45,000
Guldo - 50
Captain Ginyu - 90,000
Ginyu in Goku’s body - 23,000[/spoiler]
Freezer Arc
[spoiler]Goku after Zenkai
Base - 3,000,000
Kaioken x10 - 30,000,000
Kaioken x20 - 60,000,000
Super Saiyan - 150,000,000
Krillin - 75,000
Gohan after Zenkai
Base - 200,000
Angry - 1,000,000
Piccolo - 1,200,000
Vegeta
Base - 300,000
After Zenkai - 1,500,000
Freezer
1st form - 530,000
2nd form - 1,300,000
3rd form - 3,000,000
Final Form 50% - 60,000,000
Final Form - 120,000,000
100% Form - 150,000,000[/spoiler]
Trunks Arc
[spoiler]Mecha Freezer - 160,000,000
King Cold - 100,000,000
King Cold's soldiers - 1,000
Future Trunks
Base - 3,400,000
SSJ - 170,000,000
Goku
Base - 3,500,000
SSJ - 175,000,000
Vegeta - 3,000,000
Piccolo - 2,500,000
Gohan - 300,000
Krillin - 75,000
Tenshinhan - 20,000
Yamcha - 18,000[/spoiler]
Androids Arc
[spoiler]Goku
Base - 3,600,000
SSJ - 180,000,000
SSJ (Heart Virus) - 90,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 3,800,000
SSJ - 190,000,000
Future Trunks
Base - 3,400,000
SSJ - 170,000,000
Piccolo - 150,000,000
Gohan - 1,200,000
Tenshinhan - 40,000
Krillin - 80,000
Yamcha - 30,000
Android 19 - 120,000,000
Energy Absorbed - 140,000,000
Dr.Gero - 110,000,000
Energy Absorbed - 130,000,000
Android 18 - 240,000,000
Android 17 - 250,000,000[/spoiler]
Cell Arc
[spoiler]Piccolo (Kami)
Full Power - 250,000,000
Worn Out - 240,000,000
Android 16 - 260,000,000
Android 18 - 240,000,000
Android 17 - 250,000,000
Cell
Imperfect - 240,000,000
Humans Absorbed - 250,000,000
Semi Perfect - 300,000,000
Perfect Cell (Suppressed)- 400,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 7,000,000
SSJ - 350,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 90%)
SSJ Grade 2 - 400,000,000 (Speed = 90%, Stamina = 90%)
Trunks
Base - 6,800,000
SSJ - 340,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 90%)
SSJ Grade 2 - 390,000,000 (Speed = 90%, Stamina = 90%)
SSJ Grade 3 - 440,000,000 (Speed = 80%, Stamina = 80%)
(He is slightly weaker than Vegeta, but grade 3 his power level his greater than Cell's, but he lacks the speed necessary to beat him)[/spoiler]
Cell Games
[spoiler]Goku
Base - 14,500,000
FPSSJ - 725,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 100%)
After battle with Cell - 375,000,000
Perfect Cell
Suppressed vs Goku - 700,000,000
Suppressed vs Gohan - 750,000,000
Full Power - 1,000,000,000
Super Perfect - 1,200,000,000
Gohan
Base - 15,000,000
FPSSJ - 750,000,000 (Speed = 100%, Stamina = 100%)
SSJ2 - 1,500,000,000
Wounded - 1,000,000,000
Father-Son Kamehameha - 1,700,000,000
Cell Jr - 400,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 8,000,000
SSJ - 400,000,000
Trunks
Base - 7,800,000
SSJ - 390,000,000
Piccolo - 400,000,000[/spoiler]
The Future
[spoiler]Future Android 17- 240,000,000
Future Android 18- 230,000,000
Future Gohan
Base - 4,000,000
SSJ - 200,000,000
Trunks
Base - 8,000,000
SSJ - 400,000,000
3 years later - 9,000,000
SSJ - 450,000,000
Future Cell- 240,000,000[/spoiler]
Babidi Arc
[spoiler]Gohan
Base - 10,000,000
SSJ - 500,000,000
Post Training - 12,000,000
FPSSJ - 600,000,000
SSJ2 - 1,200,000,000
Goten
Base - 7,000,000
FPSSJ - 350,000,000
Post Training with Gohan - 8,000,000
FPSSJ - 400,000,000
Trunks
Base - 7,500,000
FPSSJ - 375,000,000
Post Training with Vegeta- 8,500,000
FPSSJ - 425,000,000
Goku
Base - 15,000,000
SSJ - 750,000,000
SSJ2 - 1,500,000,000
SSJ3 Full Power - 6,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 14,800,000
SSJ - 740,000,000
SSJ2 - 1,480,000,000
Majin Vegeta - 1,500,000,000
Krillin - 150,000
Android 18 - 240,000,000
Piccolo - 400,000,000
Kaioshin- 450,000,000
Kibito - 20,000,000
Pui-Pui - 100,000
Yakon - 10,000,000
Dabura - 1,200,000,000
Majin Buu - 2,000,000,000
Gotenks
Base - 28,000,000
SSJ - 1,400,000,000[/spoiler]
Buu Arc
[spoiler]Goten - 9,000,000
Trunks - 9,000,000
Gotenks
Base - 36,000,000
SSJ - 1,800,000,000
SSJ3 - 3,600,000,000
(Gotenks’ SSJ3 multiplier is only 100x)
Mystic Gohan - 4,200,000,000
Super Buu - 3,800,000,000
Buutenks - 7,400,000,000
Buuhan - 8,000,000,000
Kibitoshin - 2,820,000,000
Vegetto
Base - 180,000,000
SSJ - 9,000,000,000
Kid Buu - 5,600,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 15,000,000
SSJ - 750,000,000
SSJ2 - 1,500,000,000
Goku
Base - 15,000,000
SSJ - 750,000,000
SSJ2 - 1,500,000,000
SSJ3 - 4,500,000,000
SSJ3 - 6,000,000,000
(If Goku could use his SSJ3 at full power he would have beaten Kid Buu)
Genkidama - 5,000,000,000
Genkidama + Goku's Boost - 10,000,000,000[/spoiler]
Dragon Ball Super
Battle of Gods Arc
[spoiler]Goku
Base - 15,000,000
SSJ - 700,000,000
SSJ2 - 1,500,000,000
SSJ3 - 6,000,000,000
SSG - 100,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 15,000,000
SSJ - 750,000,000
SSJ2 - 1,500,000,000
SSJ2 Enraged - 7,500,000,000
Beerus
10% (Suppressed) - 10,000,000,000
100% (Suppressed) - 100,000,000,000
True Power - ?
Whis
True Power - ? (Stronger than Beerus)[/spoiler]
Resurrection of Freezer Arc
[spoiler]Goku
Base - 25,000,000
God Ki - 2,500,000,000
SSB - 125,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 25,000,000
God Ki - 2,500,000,000
SSB - 125,000,000,000
(Super Saiyan Blue is 50x their God Ki base)
Freezer
1st Form - 1,000,000,000
4th Form - 3,000,000,000
Golden - 150,000,000,000
Exhausted - 75,000,000,000
(Golden Form is 50x of Freezer's 4th form)
Gohan
Base - 10,000,000
SSJ - 500,000,000
Tagoma
Base - 25,000
Post-Training - 450,000,000
Ginyu - 400,000,000
Shisami - 30,000
Freezer's Soldiers - Average of 100
Piccolo - 400,000,000
Tenshinan - 50,000
Krillin - 70,000
Master Roshi - 200
Jaco- 100[/spoiler]
Champa Tournament Arc
Gods
[spoiler]Whis - ? (Much stronger than Beerus)
Beerus - ?
Vados - ? (Slightly stronger than Whis)
Champa - ? (Slightly weaker than Beerus)[/spoiler]
U7 Fighters
[spoiler]Goku
Base - 30,000,000
SSJ - 1,500,000,000
God Ki - 3,000,000,000
SSB - 150,000,000,000
SSB + KKx2 - 300,000,000,000
SSB + KKx10 - 1,500,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 30,000,000
SSJ - 1,500,000,000
God Ki - 3,000,000,000
SSB - 150,000,000,000
Piccolo - 450,000,000
Mr Buu - 3,000,000,000
Monaka - 1[/spoiler]
U6 Fighters
[spoiler]Botamo - 30,000,000
Frost
1st Form - 5,300,000
Assault Form - 32,000,000
Final Form - 1,200,000,000
Otto Magetta - 2,000,000,000
Cabba
Base - 3,000,000
SSJ - 150,000,000
Hit - ???[/spoiler]
Black Goku Arc
Future
[spoiler]Future Trunks
Base - 28,000,000
SSJ2 - 2,800,000,000
Black
Full Power - 5,000,000,000[/spoiler]
Present
[spoiler]Trunks (1st Zenkai)
Base - 30,000,000
SSJ2 - 3,000,000,000
Black
Full Power - 5,000,000,000
vs Goku - 3,000,000,000
Goku
Base - 30,000,000
SSJ2 - 3,000,000,000
SSJ3 vs Trunks - 4,000,000,000
SSJ3 Full Power - 12,000,000,000
(Goku doesn’t use his full SSJ3 power to knock Trunks out)
Zamasu - 2,500,000,000[/spoiler]
1st Time Travel
[spoiler]Trunks (Post Training)
Base - 30,000,000
SSJ2 - 3,000,000,000
God Ki - 300,000,000
FPSSJ2 - 30,000,000,000
Vegeta
Base - 30,000,000
God Ki - 3,000,000,000
SSB - 150,000,000,000
Goku
Base - 30,000,000
God Ki - 3,000,000,000
SSB - 150,000,000,000
SSB Wounded - 50,000,000,000
Black (1st Goku Boost)
Base - 5,000,000,000
SSR Full Power - 200,000,000,000
(Super Saiyan Rosè is a 50x boost)
Immortal Zamasu - 5,000,000,000[/spoiler]
2nd Time Travel
[spoiler]Goku (1st Zenkai)
Base - 32,000,000
God Ki - 3,200,000,000
SSB - 160,000,000,000
SSB Rage - 210,000,000,000
Vegeta (1st Zenkai)
Base - 32,000,000
Base with God Ki - 3,200,000,000
SSB - 160,000,000,000
Trunks (2nd Zenkai)
Base - 32,000,000
God Ki - 320,000,000
SSJ2 Full Power - 32,000,000,000
Super Trunks - 192,000,000,000
(Super Trunks is 600x of Trunks’ God Ki)
Black (2nd Goku Boost)
SSR - 215,000,000,000
Immortal Zamasu - 5,000,000,000[/spoiler]
3rd Time Travel
[spoiler]Trunks (3rd Zenkai)
Base - 35,000,000
God Ki - 350,000,000
SSJ2 Full Power - 35,000,000,000
Super Trunks - 210,000,000,000
Vegeta (2nd Zenkai + Training)
Base - 46,000,000
Base with God Ki - 4,600,000,000
SSB - 230,000,000,000
Goku (2nd Zenkai)
Base - 40,000,000
Base with God Ki - 4,000,000,000
SSB - 200,000,000,000
Black
SSR - 220,000,000,000
Future Zamasu - 5,000,000,000[/spoiler]
Fusions
[spoiler]Goku
SSB - 200,000,000,000
SSB + KKx3 - 600,000,000,000
SSB + KKx10 - 2,000,000,000,000
Senzu - 210,000,000,000
(I assume Goku prepared his Kaio-Ken before firing his Kamehameha)
Vegeta
SSB - 230,000,000,000
Senzu - 240,000,000,000
Trunks
Super Trunks (Rage) - 230,000,000,000
Merged Zamasu
Halo - 500,000,000,000
Full Power - 2,500,000,000,000
Giant Form - 1,250,000,000,000
Vegetto
SSB - 2,700,000,000,000
Spirit Sword Trunks - 1,500,000,000,000[/spoiler]
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Personally I'd put him anywhere between 60,000 and 120,000. He's clearly a lot stronger than before, but seeing how he chooses to ditch Goku in the hopes that he and Ginyu kill each other, I don’t think he’s tremendously above them just yet.TheUltimateNinja wrote:I'm looking for his power level pre-nap, when he asked Jeice to read his power level. He clearly wasn't at 250,000 back then.DanielSSJ wrote:The only known power level for Vegeta after the initial fight with the Ginyu force is 250,000.TheUltimateNinja wrote:How strong was Vegeta against Jeice?
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I want to know how strong everyone predicts these fighters to be in these hypothetical scenarios:
Vegeta, Goku, Nappa and Raditz - Ten years after Raditz recruits Goku successfully;
Kuririn - Died against Nappa, trained with the others at Kaio's for the same amount of time as Tenshinhan and Chiaotzu;
Cell - Seven years after the Cell Games, where he defeated everyone before Gohan turned SSJ2.
Please justify your predictions. Hopefully this will generate interesting discussion. Even though this is the thread to post lists, brute numbers without the thought process doesn't stimulate anything, bar the odd figure here and there.
Vegeta, Goku, Nappa and Raditz - Ten years after Raditz recruits Goku successfully;
Kuririn - Died against Nappa, trained with the others at Kaio's for the same amount of time as Tenshinhan and Chiaotzu;
Cell - Seven years after the Cell Games, where he defeated everyone before Gohan turned SSJ2.
Please justify your predictions. Hopefully this will generate interesting discussion. Even though this is the thread to post lists, brute numbers without the thought process doesn't stimulate anything, bar the odd figure here and there.
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Vegeta, Goku, Nappa and Raditz: It depends a lot on what they do from there. If they use the Dragon Balls to wish for immortality, they can abuse Zenkais and surpass Frieza even without SSJ. Well, Goku and Vegeta could at least. They'd already be considerably stronger than their Buu Arc/BoG selves in just a couple of years.LightBing wrote:I want to know how strong everyone predicts these fighters to be in these hypothetical scenarios:
Vegeta, Goku, Nappa and Raditz - Ten years after Raditz recruits Goku successfully;
Kuririn - Died against Nappa, trained with the others at Kaio's for the same amount of time as Tenshinhan and Chiaotzu;
Cell - Seven years after the Cell Games, where he defeated everyone before Gohan turned SSJ2.
Please justify your predictions. Hopefully this will generate interesting discussion. Even though this is the thread to post lists, brute numbers without the thought process doesn't stimulate anything, bar the odd figure here and there.
On the other hand, if they just choose to rebel against Frieza without wishing for immortality beforehand they'd most likely all get killed, it was a series of very convenient events that allowed them to survive on Namek. They may survive on the off chance that Goku goes SSJ.
Ultimately they'd either be incredibly strong or dead.
Kuririn: Catches up to Tenshinhan and maybe surpasses him, but isn't as strong as he was in canon since he didn't get the potential unlock.
Cell: Probably the same as he was back then, he's not the type to train.
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Vegeta, Goku, Nappa and Raditz - After Piccolo (and Kami along with him), Goku agrees to go with Raditz in exchange for leaving the Earth alone. Despite being horribly outmatched at first, Goku continues his training and in a few years has surpassed his brother an Nappa and is fast approaching Vegeta's level. Raditz and Nappa both take to sparring with each other after Goku outstrips them, and Vegeta, feeling both nervous and outraged at the possibility of being surpassed by a lower class weakling like Goku, takes to training seriously for the first time since his childhood.LightBing wrote:I want to know how strong everyone predicts these fighters to be in these hypothetical scenarios:
Vegeta, Goku, Nappa and Raditz - Ten years after Raditz recruits Goku successfully;
Kuririn - Died against Nappa, trained with the others at Kaio's for the same amount of time as Tenshinhan and Chiaotzu;
Cell - Seven years after the Cell Games, where he defeated everyone before Gohan turned SSJ2.
Please justify your predictions. Hopefully this will generate interesting discussion. Even though this is the thread to post lists, brute numbers without the thought process doesn't stimulate anything, bar the odd figure here and there.
Apprehensive about the Saiyan's vastly growing strength, Freeza sends them on a mission to a distant planet where they end up ambushed by the Ginyu force. The Saiyans prevail and prepare themselves to fight Freeza. It takes their combined efforts and the death of Raditz (because of course it's Raditz) to beat him, but Freeza falls to Goku, the newest Super Saiyan.
With Freeza dead and being the strongest guy in town, Goku goes back to earth to live with his family and friends. Nappa wants to take advantage of the power vacuum left by Freeza and turn Freeza's empire into a Saiyan empire, but Vegeta is too fixated on Kakarotto to do that, and they both follow Goku to Earth. Turns out, they've arrived just in time to take out Gero's Androids (who are a lot weaker than in the main series). Gohan has dedicated himself to martial arts in the hopes of saving his dad and Kuririn has taken up the mantle of Kami-sama, being the Earthling who is most dedicated to peace (Ten's too occupied with pursuing strength and honor, and Yamcha's too materialistic). Vegeta falls for Bulma. No body falls for Nappa's ugly mug.
The Saiyans hang out on Earth and continue to train and whatnot until Bobbidi attempts to unleash Boo on the world. Nappa dies in the initial confrontation. Vegeta and Goku are forced to train together in the Room of Spirit and Time for two years straight, where they attempt to surpass the Super Saiyan, while Gohan is brought to the sacred Kaioshin realm to train with the Z Sword which ends up with him getting his potential unleashed. Boo is defeated somehow.
- Son Goku: 416
- vs. Ginyu Force: 180,000
vs. Freeza: 3,000,000- Super Saiyan: 150,000,000
- Super Saiyan: 500,000,000
- Super Saiyan: 7,500,000,000
Super Saiyan 2: 15,000,000,000
- vs. Ginyu Force: 170,000
vs. Freeza: 2,500,000
vs. Majin Boo (round 1): 9,000,000- Super Saiyan: 450,000,000
- Super Saiyan: 7,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 2: 14,000,000,000
- vs. Ginyu Force: 75,000
vs. Freeza: 1,000,000
vs. Majin Boo: 4,000,000- Super Saiyan: 200,000,000
- vs. Ginyu Force: 50,000
vs. Freeza: 750,000
- vs. Ginyu Force: 180,000
- Kuririn: 1,770
- Kaio training: 75,000
- Kaio training: 60,000
- Kaio training: 18,000
- Super Perfect Cell: 7,200,000,000
- 7 years later: 8,000,000,000
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread
LightBing wrote:I want to know how strong everyone predicts these fighters to be in these hypothetical scenarios:
Vegeta, Goku, Nappa and Raditz - Ten years after Raditz recruits Goku successfully;
Kuririn - Died against Nappa, trained with the others at Kaio's for the same amount of time as Tenshinhan and Chiaotzu;
Cell - Seven years after the Cell Games, where he defeated everyone before Gohan turned SSJ2.
Please justify your predictions. Hopefully this will generate interesting discussion. Even though this is the thread to post lists, brute numbers without the thought process doesn't stimulate anything, bar the odd figure here and there.
The Saiyans wouldn't improve that much without rebelling against Freezer (and even then they would probably get killed)
Vegeta - 24,000
Nappa - 5,000
Raditz - 2,500
Goku - 2,500
It's not like Saiyans before Goku and Vegeta were shown to get much stronger. Raditz and Goku would be able to reach Bardock (I have him at 2,500 in my list)
10 years of easily conquering planets wouldn't make them improve much. Goku would be trained in Saiyan arts by his brother to catch up. Considering the progress he made in the 5 years between the tournament and Raditz' arrival, he didn't have much room of improvement before he trained with King Kai and then abused Zenkais.
If they rebelled succesfully with the 4 of them still alive then it would depend by a lot of factors, it's impossible to guess
About Krillin, he would be weaker than he was in Namek, that's for sure. He would be 20,000 at best.
Cell wouldn't be much stronger either, unless he trained his ass off which I find unprobable. He would have probably taken control of the PTO becoming Freezer's successor. There would be no Majin Buu as he would destroy the Earth
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Is it even possible for Vegeta to be 250,000 against Frieza? It seems the way V Jump arrived at that number was by trying to make it so that if you added Vegeta, Gohan and Kuririn their power levels would rival Frieza's 530k (250k + 200k + 75k = 525k) and I guess this logic may make sense to the layperson, but clearly things don't work like this in the series. Considering the fact that Vegeta was able to make Frieza struggle a bit he's got to be well over 400k.DanielSSJ wrote:Personally I'd put him anywhere between 60,000 and 120,000. He's clearly a lot stronger than before, but seeing how he chooses to ditch Goku in the hopes that he and Ginyu kill each other, I don’t think he’s tremendously above them just yet.TheUltimateNinja wrote:I'm looking for his power level pre-nap, when he asked Jeice to read his power level. He clearly wasn't at 250,000 back then.DanielSSJ wrote: The only known power level for Vegeta after the initial fight with the Ginyu force is 250,000.
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Probably 515K in my opinionTheUltimateNinja wrote:Is it even possible for Vegeta to be 250,000 against Frieza? It seems the way V Jump arrived at that number was by trying to make it so that if you added Vegeta, Gohan and Kuririn their power levels would rival Frieza's 530k (250k + 200k + 75k = 525k) and I guess this logic may make sense to the layperson, but clearly things don't work like this in the series. Considering the fact that Vegeta was able to make Frieza struggle a bit he's got to be well over 400k.DanielSSJ wrote:Personally I'd put him anywhere between 60,000 and 120,000. He's clearly a lot stronger than before, but seeing how he chooses to ditch Goku in the hopes that he and Ginyu kill each other, I don’t think he’s tremendously above them just yet.TheUltimateNinja wrote: I'm looking for his power level pre-nap, when he asked Jeice to read his power level. He clearly wasn't at 250,000 back then.
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Probably not that close, Vegeta was exhausted and breathing hard after that little confrontation whereas Frieza was completely unaffected.Gog wrote:Probably 515K in my opinionTheUltimateNinja wrote:Is it even possible for Vegeta to be 250,000 against Frieza? It seems the way V Jump arrived at that number was by trying to make it so that if you added Vegeta, Gohan and Kuririn their power levels would rival Frieza's 530k (250k + 200k + 75k = 525k) and I guess this logic may make sense to the layperson, but clearly things don't work like this in the series. Considering the fact that Vegeta was able to make Frieza struggle a bit he's got to be well over 400k.DanielSSJ wrote: Personally I'd put him anywhere between 60,000 and 120,000. He's clearly a lot stronger than before, but seeing how he chooses to ditch Goku in the hopes that he and Ginyu kill each other, I don’t think he’s tremendously above them just yet.
Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread
Yeah, I'd put him around 490KTheUltimateNinja wrote:Probably not that close, Vegeta was exhausted and breathing hard after that little confrontation whereas Frieza was completely unaffected.Gog wrote:Probably 515K in my opinionTheUltimateNinja wrote: Is it even possible for Vegeta to be 250,000 against Frieza? It seems the way V Jump arrived at that number was by trying to make it so that if you added Vegeta, Gohan and Kuririn their power levels would rival Frieza's 530k (250k + 200k + 75k = 525k) and I guess this logic may make sense to the layperson, but clearly things don't work like this in the series. Considering the fact that Vegeta was able to make Frieza struggle a bit he's got to be well over 400k.
Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread
I didn't even remember of the immortality option. It would certainly make everything boring, I wonder if they they would ask the Dragon to remove it once Freeza was dealt with...TheUltimateNinja wrote:[spoiler]Vegeta, Goku, Nappa and Raditz: It depends a lot on what they do from there. If they use the Dragon Balls to wish for immortality, they can abuse Zenkais and surpass Frieza even without SSJ. Well, Goku and Vegeta could at least. They'd already be considerably stronger than their Buu Arc/BoG selves in just a couple of years.
On the other hand, if they just choose to rebel against Frieza without wishing for immortality beforehand they'd most likely all get killed, it was a series of very convenient events that allowed them to survive on Namek. They may survive on the off chance that Goku goes SSJ.
Ultimately they'd either be incredibly strong or dead.
Kuririn: Catches up to Tenshinhan and maybe surpasses him, but isn't as strong as he was in canon since he didn't get the potential unlock.
Cell: Probably the same as he was back then, he's not the type to train.[/spoiler]
I don't think they would be able to abuse zenkais. With the exception of Cell, nobody else had zenkais after achieving SSJ. Either they stopped after getting the legendary transformation or they become insignificant.
Nice post!DanielSSJ wrote:[spoiler]Vegeta, Goku, Nappa and Raditz - After Piccolo (and Kami along with him), Goku agrees to go with Raditz in exchange for leaving the Earth alone. Despite being horribly outmatched at first, Goku continues his training and in a few years has surpassed his brother an Nappa and is fast approaching Vegeta's level. Raditz and Nappa both take to sparring with each other after Goku outstrips them, and Vegeta, feeling both nervous and outraged at the possibility of being surpassed by a lower class weakling like Goku, takes to training seriously for the first time since his childhood.
Apprehensive about the Saiyan's vastly growing strength, Freeza sends them on a mission to a distant planet where they end up ambushed by the Ginyu force. The Saiyans prevail and prepare themselves to fight Freeza. It takes their combined efforts and the death of Raditz (because of course it's Raditz) to beat him, but Freeza falls to Goku, the newest Super Saiyan.
With Freeza dead and being the strongest guy in town, Goku goes back to earth to live with his family and friends. Nappa wants to take advantage of the power vacuum left by Freeza and turn Freeza's empire into a Saiyan empire, but Vegeta is too fixated on Kakarotto to do that, and they both follow Goku to Earth. Turns out, they've arrived just in time to take out Gero's Androids (who are a lot weaker than in the main series). Gohan has dedicated himself to martial arts in the hopes of saving his dad and Kuririn has taken up the mantle of Kami-sama, being the Earthling who is most dedicated to peace (Ten's too occupied with pursuing strength and honor, and Yamcha's too materialistic). Vegeta falls for Bulma. No body falls for Nappa's ugly mug.
The Saiyans hang out on Earth and continue to train and whatnot until Bobbidi attempts to unleash Boo on the world. Nappa dies in the initial confrontation. Vegeta and Goku are forced to train together in the Room of Spirit and Time for two years straight, where they attempt to surpass the Super Saiyan, while Gohan is brought to the sacred Kaioshin realm to train with the Z Sword which ends up with him getting his potential unleashed. Boo is defeated somehow.
Son Goku: 416
vs. Ginyu Force: 180,000
vs. Freeza: 3,000,000
Super Saiyan: 150,000,000
vs. Majin Boo (round 1): 10,000,000
Super Saiyan: 500,000,000
vs. Majin Boo (round 2): 150,000,000
Super Saiyan: 7,500,000,000
Super Saiyan 2: 15,000,000,000
Vegeta: 18,000
vs. Ginyu Force: 170,000
vs. Freeza: 2,500,000
vs. Majin Boo (round 1): 9,000,000
Super Saiyan: 450,000,000
vs. Majin Boo (round 2): 140,000,000
Super Saiyan: 7,000,000,000
Super Saiyan 2: 14,000,000,000
Nappa: 4,000
vs. Ginyu Force: 75,000
vs. Freeza: 1,000,000
vs. Majin Boo: 4,000,000
Super Saiyan: 200,000,000
Raditz: 1,500
vs. Ginyu Force: 50,000
vs. Freeza: 750,000
Kuririn - I personally think that it was getting his potential unleashed on Namek that granted Kuririn the "Strongest Earthling" title, and without that, I doubt that Kuririn would get such a huge advantage over Tenshinhan. However, as seen with his Saiyan arc battle power, Kuririn was gradually catching up to Tenshinhan and could've possibly overtaken the triclops.
Kuririn: 1,770
Kaio training: 75,000
Tenshinhan: 1,830
Kaio training: 60,000
Chiaotzu: 610
Kaio training: 18,000
Cell - After beating Gohan at the Cell Games, Cell travels throughout the Universe searching for powerful opponents. Unfortunately, Freeza and the Super Saiyans were pretty much tops in the Universe, outside of Majin Boo (whose shell was destroyed in the Solar-System busting Kamehameha while Boo had zero power due to hibernation), Dabra (who died fighting Cell on Bobbidi's orders after Boo's shell is destroyed) Kaioshin and Kibito (who end up dying at Cell's hands given that he's threatening to be the next Majin Boo), and Beerus (who is still asleep, but still alive since the Elder Kaioshin is locked safely away in the Z Sword). Bobbidi attempts to take over Cell's mind, but ends up being killed instead for not being able to control Cell's superiority complex (just like how he couldn't compete with Vegeta's pride). Given all this, Cell's strength stagnates and he is eventually killed by Beerus when he wakes up.
Super Perfect Cell: 7,200,000,000
7 years later: 8,000,000,000[/spoiler]
That alternative story is pretty interesting. I would think Vegeta would murder Goku if he was closing up on him. Saiyan Arc Vegeta had that sense of social superiority which shouldn't get lost in your story. It would likely be exacerbated. My take anyway.
Super Saiyan Nappa that would be a treat to watch. You don't think the Saiyans hiy a wall? Kinda like the humans did? Goku and Vegeta are undeniable prodigy's, I wouldn't say the same about Nappa or Raditz to have them power up that much.
There's certainly a possibility of them maintaining the status quo under Freeza and not improving or doing much.emperior wrote:The Saiyans wouldn't improve that much without rebelling against Freezer (and even then they would probably get killed)
[spoiler]Vegeta - 24,000
Nappa - 5,000
Raditz - 2,500
Goku - 2,500
It's not like Saiyans before Goku and Vegeta were shown to get much stronger. Raditz and Goku would be able to reach Bardock (I have him at 2,500 in my list)
10 years of easily conquering planets wouldn't make them improve much. Goku would be trained in Saiyan arts by his brother to catch up. Considering the progress he made in the 5 years between the tournament and Raditz' arrival, he didn't have much room of improvement before he trained with King Kai and then abused Zenkais.
If they rebelled succesfully with the 4 of them still alive then it would depend by a lot of factors, it's impossible to guess
About Krillin, he would be weaker than he was in Namek, that's for sure. He would be 20,000 at best.
Cell wouldn't be much stronger either, unless he trained his ass off which I find unprobable. He would have probably taken control of the PTO becoming Freezer's successor. There would be no Majin Buu as he would destroy the Earth[/spoiler]
I don't think it would be Cell's style to lead an empire.
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Rather than disregarding Vegeta's official battle power, I'd rather take a different approach. What about questioning Freeza's battle power instead?TheUltimateNinja wrote:Is it even possible for Vegeta to be 250,000 against Frieza? It seems the way V Jump arrived at that number was by trying to make it so that if you added Vegeta, Gohan and Kuririn their power levels would rival Frieza's 530k (250k + 200k + 75k = 525k) and I guess this logic may make sense to the layperson, but clearly things don't work like this in the series. Considering the fact that Vegeta was able to make Frieza struggle a bit he's got to be well over 400k.DanielSSJ wrote:Personally I'd put him anywhere between 60,000 and 120,000. He's clearly a lot stronger than before, but seeing how he chooses to ditch Goku in the hopes that he and Ginyu kill each other, I don’t think he’s tremendously above them just yet.TheUltimateNinja wrote: I'm looking for his power level pre-nap, when he asked Jeice to read his power level. He clearly wasn't at 250,000 back then.
I know how everyone feels about battle powers from the Manga and how they are "more official" than all the other official battle powers, but please, bear with me.
What if Freeza didn't have a battle power of 530,000 when he was fighting Vegeta. Maybe he only attains that battle power after he shatters his battle suit. Or, maybe the 530k figure is his absolute max, as in, he only gets that strong when he fires off his ultimate "Supernova" attack?
Just my 2 cents, but I think it's completely viable since Freeza can alter his battle power.
My numbers:
Freeza
Vs. Nail- 85,000
Vs. Vegeta- 265,000
Full Power- 530,000
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DBZ Macky wrote:Rather than disregarding Vegeta's official battle power, I'd rather take a different approach. What about questioning Freeza's battle power instead?TheUltimateNinja wrote:Is it even possible for Vegeta to be 250,000 against Frieza? It seems the way V Jump arrived at that number was by trying to make it so that if you added Vegeta, Gohan and Kuririn their power levels would rival Frieza's 530k (250k + 200k + 75k = 525k) and I guess this logic may make sense to the layperson, but clearly things don't work like this in the series. Considering the fact that Vegeta was able to make Frieza struggle a bit he's got to be well over 400k.DanielSSJ wrote: Personally I'd put him anywhere between 60,000 and 120,000. He's clearly a lot stronger than before, but seeing how he chooses to ditch Goku in the hopes that he and Ginyu kill each other, I don’t think he’s tremendously above them just yet.
I know how everyone feels about battle powers from the Manga and how they are "more official" than all the other official battle powers, but please, bear with me.
What if Freeza didn't have a battle power of 530,000 when he was fighting Vegeta. Maybe he only attains that battle power after he shatters his battle suit. Or, maybe the 530k figure is his absolute max, as in, he only gets that strong when he fires off his ultimate "Supernova" attack?
Just my 2 cents, but I think it's completely viable since Freeza can alter his battle power.
My numbers:
Freeza
Vs. Nail- 85,000
Vs. Vegeta- 265,000
Full Power- 530,000
Freezer can't manipulate his ki. He's like Vegeta on Earth. Sure he can hold back like everyone does but his power level when read with a scouter will always be 530k
Everyone could feel his monstrous ki. Though in his final form he was able to manipulate his power but we can probably treat that like him tapping more and more in his transformation's power.
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Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread
I can agree, it's completely possible that Freeza can't control his battle power in his 1st form, but it's very, very unlikely.emperior wrote: Freezer can't manipulate his ki. He's like Vegeta on Earth. Sure he can hold back like everyone does but his power level when read with a scouter will always be 530k
Everyone could feel his monstrous ki. Though in his final form he was able to manipulate his power but we can probably treat that like him tapping more and more in his transformation's power.
Freeza was shown to power up in his 2nd form as well as his final form. Nothing says that he absolutely can't raise his battle power in his 1st form.
Jinzoningen MULE wrote:You're in the DB community, it's always a power level thread to someone.
Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread
I always saw it like Freezer was able to only increase his power, not decrease. He was never shown to decrease it as far as I remember.DBZ Macky wrote:I can agree, it's completely possible that Freeza can't control his battle power in his 1st form, but it's very, very unlikely.emperior wrote: Freezer can't manipulate his ki. He's like Vegeta on Earth. Sure he can hold back like everyone does but his power level when read with a scouter will always be 530k
Everyone could feel his monstrous ki. Though in his final form he was able to manipulate his power but we can probably treat that like him tapping more and more in his transformation's power.
Freeza was shown to power up in his 2nd form as well as his final form. Nothing says that he absolutely can't raise his battle power in his 1st form.
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Transformations:
Oozaru____________________ 10x base
Super Saiyan_______________ +150.000.000
Super Saiyan 2nd Grade_______+350.000.000
Super Saiyan 3rd Grade_______+600.000.000
Mastered Super Saiyan________+400.000.000
Super Saiyan 2______________ +800.000.000
Super Saiyan 2 Full Power_____+1.000.000.000
Super Saiyan 3______________ +1.200.000.000
Mystic Ritual (Gohan's case)___ 500x
Super Saiyan God (Ritual)______300x
Base + Godly Ki (Fake SSG)_____20x
Super Saiyan God_____________50x (5x when fused)
Super Saiyan Blue____________ 60x (6x when fused)
Super Saiyan Rosé____________ 3x
Super Saiyan Rage____________45x
Golden (Freeza)______________+4.000.000.000
Fusions:
Absortion_______________+0.5
Fusion__________________20x
Fusion (between gods)____ 2x
[spoiler]Saiyan Saga:
Chaos _____________610
Yajirobe___________ 970
Kuririn ____________ 1.770
Yamcha____________1.480
Tenshinhan_________1.830
Piccolo____________ 3.500
Gohan_____________ 980
Gohan (Oozaru)______9.800
Goku ______________ 8.000
Goku (Kaio-Ken)_____ 12.000
Goku (Kaio-Ken 2x)___16.000
Goku (Kaio-Ken 3x)___20.000
Goku (Kaio-Ken 4x)___24.000
Nappa______________ 4.000
Vegeta_____________ 18.000
Vegeta (Oozaru)_____ 180.000
Vegeta (weakened)___1.500
Freeza Saga:
Yamcha (other world)____________ 60.000
Tenshinhan (other world)__________ 70.000
Chaos (other world)_______________15.000
Kuririn__________________________1.900
Kuririn (after potential unleashed)___19.000
Kuririn (Potential full unleashed)____ 70.000
Gohan___________________________2.000
Gohan (after potential unleashed)___ 20.000
Gohan (Potential full unleashed)_____80.000
Gohan (Rage)____________________ 800.000
Nail____________________________ 42.000
Piccolo_________________________ 258.000
Piccolo (fused with Nail)___________900.000
Cui___________________________ 18.000
Dodoria________________________ 22.000
Zarbon________________________ 23.000
Zarbon (monster)_________________33.000
Guldo __________________________13.500
Recoome_______________________ 45.000
Burter__________________________50.000
Jeice__________________________ 50.000
Captain Ginyu__________________ 120.000
Vegeta________________________ 24.000
Vegeta (1st Zenkai)______________36.000
Vegeta (2nd Zenkai)_____________ 54.000
Vegeta (3rd Zenkai)_____________ 1.800.000
Goku__________________________90.000
Goku (Kaioken 2x)______________ 180.000
Goku (Zenkai)__________________3.000.000
Goku (Kaioken 10x)_____________18.000.000
Goku (Kaioken 20x)_____________33.000.000
Goku SSJ______________________153.000.000
Freeza (1st form supressed)______ 265.000
Freeza (1st Form)______________ 530.000
Freeza (2nd Form)______________1.060.000
Freeza (3rd Form)_____________ 1.590.000
Freeza (4th Form at 20%)_______ 24.000.000
Freeza (4th Form at 50%)________60.000.000
Freeza (4th Form at 100%)_______120.000.000
Cell Saga:
Mecha Freeza______________________ 130.000.000
King Cold__________________________ 100.000.000
Kuririn____________________________ 100.000
Kuririn (3 years later)________________6.000.000
Yamcha___________________________ 70.000
Yamcha (3 years later)______________ 5.000.000
Chaos_____________________________ 15.000
Chaos (3 years later)_________________90.000
Tenshinhan_________________________120.000
Tenshinhan (3 years later)____________ 7.000.000
Kami-Sama_________________________1.000
Piccolo ___________________________ 1.500.000
Piccolo (3 years later)_______________ 70.000.000
Piccolo (Fused with Kami-Sama)_______210.000.000
Piccolo (after training)______________ 280.000.000
Vegeta___________________________ 2.000.000
Vegeta (3 years later)_______________ 25.000.000
Vegeta SSJ_________________________175.000.000
Vegeta (after training)_______________30.000.000
Vegeta SSJ_________________________180.000.000
Vegeta SSJ 2nd Grade________________380.000.000
Mirai Trunks________________________5.000.000
Mirai Trunks SSJ_____________________155.000.000
Mirai Trunks (3 years later)___________ 15.000.000
Mirai Trunks SSJ_____________________165.000.000
Mirai Trunks (after training)___________30.000.000
Mirai Trunks SSJ_____________________180.000.000
Mirai Trunks SSJ 2nd Grade___________ 380.000.000
Mirai Trunks SSJ 3rd Grade____________630.000.000
Goku______________________________10.000.000
Goku SSJ__________________________ 160.000.000
Goku (3 years later)__________________20.000.000
Goku SSJ___________________________ 170.000.000
Goku (after training)_________________ 40.000.000
Goku MSSJ__________________________ 440.000.000
Gohan_____________________________ 500.000
Gohan (3 years later)_________________ 7.000.000
Gohan (after training)________________ 35.000.000
Gohan MSSJ ________________________ 435.000.000
Gohan SSJ2_________________________ 835.000.000
Android No.20_______________________60.000.000
Android No.19_______________________50.000.000
Android No.18_______________________200.000.000
Android No.17_______________________200.000.000
Android No.16_______________________250.000.000
Imperfect Cell ______________________150.000.000
Imperfect Cell (maximum absorption)___250.000.000
Semi-Perfect Cell____________________350.000.000
Cell Jrs.____________________________400.000.000
Perfect Cell (Full Power)______________450.000.000
Super Perfect Cell (Full Power)_________750.000.000
Majin Boo Saga:
Kuririn_____________________________________ 4.000.000
Yamcha____________________________________ 3.000.000
Chaos______________________________________ 100.000
Tenshinhan__________________________________10.000.000
Piccolo_____________________________________ 300.000.000
Goten (after training)_________________________ 2.300.000
Trunks (after training)_________________________2.700.000
Gotenks_____________________________________100.000.000
Gotenks SSJ__________________________________250.000.000
Gotenks SSJ3_________________________________1.300.000.000
Gohan_______________________________________20.000.000
Gohan SSJ2___________________________________820.000.000
Gohan (after training)__________________________30.000.000
Mystic Gohan_________________________________ 1.500.000.000
Vegeta_______________________________________50.000.000
Vegeta SSJ2___________________________________850.000.000
Goku_________________________________________50.000.000
Goku MSSJ____________________________________ 450.000.000
Goku SSJ2_____________________________________850.000.000
Goku SSJ3____________________________________ 1.250.000.000
Vegito (base)__________________________________ 2.000.000.000
Vegito MSSJ____________________________________2.800.000.000
Kibito_________________________________________125.000.000
East Supreme Kai_______________________________ 325.000.000
Kibito Kai______________________________________900.000.000
West Supreme Kai_______________________________ 500.000.000
North Supreme Kai_______________________________500.000.000
South Supreme Kai_______________________________1.200.000.000
Grand Supreme Kai______________________________ 700.000.000
Pui Pui_________________________________________10.000.000
Yakon_________________________________________ 120.000.000
Dabura_________________________________________750.000.000
Majin Boo (Original)______________________________1.100.000.000
Majin Boo (South Supreme Kai)____________________ 1.700.000.000
Majin Boo (Grand Supreme Kai + South Supreme Kai)___1.000.000.000
Good Boo______________________________________ 600.000.000
Evil Boo________________________________________ 900.000.000
Super Boo_______________________________________1.200.000.000
Super Boo (Gotenks SSJ3 + Piccolo)__________________2.000.000.000
Super Boo (Mystic Gohan + Piccolo + Goten + Trunks)___2.102.500.000
Kid Boo_________________________________________1.100.000.000
Majin Boo_______________________________________ 600.000.000
Battle of Gods Saga:
Piccolo___________________ 300.000.000
Goten____________________ 1.800.000
Trunks____________________2.200.000
Gotenks___________________80.000.000
Gotenks SSJ3_______________1.280.000.000
Gohan____________________ 15.000.000
Gohan (Full Power)_________ 750.000.000
Vegeta____________________50.000.000
Vegeta SSJ2________________850.000.000
Vegeta SSJ2 (Rage)__________1.700.000.000
Goku______________________60.000.000
Goku SSJ3__________________1.260.000.000
Goku Super Saiyan God_______18.000.000.000
Goku (base after limit time)___15.000.000.000
Goku (MSSJ + Godly Powers)___15.400.000.000
Beerus (5%)_________________1.500.000.000
Beerus (10%)________________3.000.000.000
Beerus (70%)________________21.000.000.000
Beerus_____________________30.000.000.000
Whis______________________ 45.000.000.000
Ressurrection of Freeza Saga:
Master Kame __________________150.000
Yamcha______________________ 120.000
Kuririn_______________________ 2.000.000
Chaos________________________ 100.000
Tenshinhan____________________10.000.000
Goten________________________ 1.200.000
Trunks________________________1.300.000
Gotenks_______________________50.000.000
Gotenks SSJ____________________250.000.000
Gohan________________________ 10.000.000
Gohan SSJ2____________________ 810.000.000
Piccolo________________________350.000.000
Sorbet_________________________10.000
Tagoma_______________________ 400.000.000
Goku__________________________70.000.000
Goku (Base + Godly Ki)__________ 1.400.000.000
Goku (Super Saiyan Blue)_________ 4.200.000.000
Goku (Heavily supressed)_________ 7.000
Vegeta________________________ 70.000.000
Vegeta (Base + Godly Ki)_________ 1.400.000.000
Vegeta (Super Saiyan Blue)________4.200.000.000
Freeza (1st Form)________________530.000.000
Freeza (4th Form)_______________ 1.300.000.000
Freeza (Golden Form)____________ 5.300.000.000
Freeza (Golden Form decreasing)___3.300.000.000
Champa's Tournement Saga:
Monaka____________________30
Majin Boo__________________600.000.000
Piccolo____________________400.000.000
Vegeta____________________ 75.000.000
Vegeta MSSJ________________475.000.000
Vegeta SSJ2________________ 875.000.000
Vegeta SSB_________________ 4.500.000.000
Vegeta SSB (10%)____________ 450.000.000
Goku_______________________75.000.000
Goku MSSJ__________________ 475.000.000
Goku SSG___________________ 3.750.000.000
Goku SSB___________________ 4.500.000.000
Goku SSB (Kaio-Ken 2x)_______ 9.000.000.000
Goku SSB (Kaio-Ken 10x)______ 27.000.000.000
Botamo_____________________50.000.000
Frost (1st Form)_____________ 60.000.000
Frost (3rd Form)_____________100.000.000
Frost (4th Form)_____________350.000.000
Magetta____________________700.000.000
Kyabe_____________________ 60.000.000
Kyabe SSJ__________________210.000.000
Hitto (Base supressed)________70.000.000
Hitto (Base)________________700.000.000
Hitto (Full Power)__________ 3.500.000.000
Hitto (0,2 sec Tokitobashi)___3.640.000.000
Hitto (0,5 sec Tokitobashi)___3.850.000.000
Hitto (1,0 sec Tokitobashi)___4.200.000.000
Champa_________________ 29.000.000.000
Beerus____________________ 30.000.000.000
Whis_____________________ 45.000.000.000
Vados_____________________46.000.000.000
Future Trunks Saga:
Mirai Trunks_______________________ 80.000.000
Mirai Trunks SSJ2___________________ 880.000.000
Mirai Trunks SSJ2 Full Power_________ 1.080.000.000
Mirai Trunks (after training)__________ 100.000.000
Mirai Trunks SSJ2____________________900.000.000
Mirai Trunks SSJ2 Full Power__________ 1.100.000.000
Mirai Trunks SSJ2 (Furious____________ 4.400.000.000
Mirai Trunks (Base After Zenkai)_______ 130.000.000
Mirai Trunks SSJ2 Full Power__________ 1.130.000.000
Mirai Trunks SSJR____________________5.850.000.000
Mirai Trunks SSJR (Spirit Sword)________11.700.000.000
Vegeta_____________________________75.000.000
Vegeta SSB_________________________ 4.500.000.000
Vegeta (After Training + Zenkai)_______ 100.000.000
Vegeta SSB__________________________6.000.000.000
Goku_______________________________80.000.000
Goku SSJ2___________________________880.000.000
Goku SSJ3___________________________1.280.000.000
Goku SSB____________________________4.800.000.000
Goku (After Zenkai)___________________100.000.000
Goku SSB____________________________6.000.000.000
Goku SSB (Rage Kamehameha)__________9.000.000.000
Goku SSB (Kaioken 2x)________________ 12.000.000.000
Vegetto_____________________________4.000.000.000
Vegetto SSB__________________________24.000.000.000
Zamasu_____________________________ 800.000.000
Mirai Zamasu_________________________1.000.000.000
Goku Black (Base)_____________________1.500.000.000
Goku Black (Base after Zenkai)__________1.750.000.000
Goku Black (Super Saiyan Rosé)_________ 5.250.000.000
Goku Black (Base 2nd Zenkai)___________1.900.000.000
Goku Black (Super Saiyan Rosé)_________ 5.700.000.000
Goku Black (Base 3rd Zenkai)___________ 2.000.000.000
Goku Black (Super Saiyan Rosé)_________ 6.000.000.000
Gattai Zamasu_______________________ 14.000.000.000
Gattai Zamasu (Damaged)______________7.000.000.000
Gattai Zamasu (Mutated)_______________17.500.000.000
Gattai Zamasu (Weakened Bulky Form)___10.500.000.000
Beerus______________________________ 30.000.000.000
Whis________________________________45.000.000.000
Daishinkan___________________________300.000.000.000[/spoiler]
Oozaru____________________ 10x base
Super Saiyan_______________ +150.000.000
Super Saiyan 2nd Grade_______+350.000.000
Super Saiyan 3rd Grade_______+600.000.000
Mastered Super Saiyan________+400.000.000
Super Saiyan 2______________ +800.000.000
Super Saiyan 2 Full Power_____+1.000.000.000
Super Saiyan 3______________ +1.200.000.000
Mystic Ritual (Gohan's case)___ 500x
Super Saiyan God (Ritual)______300x
Base + Godly Ki (Fake SSG)_____20x
Super Saiyan God_____________50x (5x when fused)
Super Saiyan Blue____________ 60x (6x when fused)
Super Saiyan Rosé____________ 3x
Super Saiyan Rage____________45x
Golden (Freeza)______________+4.000.000.000
Fusions:
Absortion_______________+0.5
Fusion__________________20x
Fusion (between gods)____ 2x
[spoiler]Saiyan Saga:
Chaos _____________610
Yajirobe___________ 970
Kuririn ____________ 1.770
Yamcha____________1.480
Tenshinhan_________1.830
Piccolo____________ 3.500
Gohan_____________ 980
Gohan (Oozaru)______9.800
Goku ______________ 8.000
Goku (Kaio-Ken)_____ 12.000
Goku (Kaio-Ken 2x)___16.000
Goku (Kaio-Ken 3x)___20.000
Goku (Kaio-Ken 4x)___24.000
Nappa______________ 4.000
Vegeta_____________ 18.000
Vegeta (Oozaru)_____ 180.000
Vegeta (weakened)___1.500
Freeza Saga:
Yamcha (other world)____________ 60.000
Tenshinhan (other world)__________ 70.000
Chaos (other world)_______________15.000
Kuririn__________________________1.900
Kuririn (after potential unleashed)___19.000
Kuririn (Potential full unleashed)____ 70.000
Gohan___________________________2.000
Gohan (after potential unleashed)___ 20.000
Gohan (Potential full unleashed)_____80.000
Gohan (Rage)____________________ 800.000
Nail____________________________ 42.000
Piccolo_________________________ 258.000
Piccolo (fused with Nail)___________900.000
Cui___________________________ 18.000
Dodoria________________________ 22.000
Zarbon________________________ 23.000
Zarbon (monster)_________________33.000
Guldo __________________________13.500
Recoome_______________________ 45.000
Burter__________________________50.000
Jeice__________________________ 50.000
Captain Ginyu__________________ 120.000
Vegeta________________________ 24.000
Vegeta (1st Zenkai)______________36.000
Vegeta (2nd Zenkai)_____________ 54.000
Vegeta (3rd Zenkai)_____________ 1.800.000
Goku__________________________90.000
Goku (Kaioken 2x)______________ 180.000
Goku (Zenkai)__________________3.000.000
Goku (Kaioken 10x)_____________18.000.000
Goku (Kaioken 20x)_____________33.000.000
Goku SSJ______________________153.000.000
Freeza (1st form supressed)______ 265.000
Freeza (1st Form)______________ 530.000
Freeza (2nd Form)______________1.060.000
Freeza (3rd Form)_____________ 1.590.000
Freeza (4th Form at 20%)_______ 24.000.000
Freeza (4th Form at 50%)________60.000.000
Freeza (4th Form at 100%)_______120.000.000
Cell Saga:
Mecha Freeza______________________ 130.000.000
King Cold__________________________ 100.000.000
Kuririn____________________________ 100.000
Kuririn (3 years later)________________6.000.000
Yamcha___________________________ 70.000
Yamcha (3 years later)______________ 5.000.000
Chaos_____________________________ 15.000
Chaos (3 years later)_________________90.000
Tenshinhan_________________________120.000
Tenshinhan (3 years later)____________ 7.000.000
Kami-Sama_________________________1.000
Piccolo ___________________________ 1.500.000
Piccolo (3 years later)_______________ 70.000.000
Piccolo (Fused with Kami-Sama)_______210.000.000
Piccolo (after training)______________ 280.000.000
Vegeta___________________________ 2.000.000
Vegeta (3 years later)_______________ 25.000.000
Vegeta SSJ_________________________175.000.000
Vegeta (after training)_______________30.000.000
Vegeta SSJ_________________________180.000.000
Vegeta SSJ 2nd Grade________________380.000.000
Mirai Trunks________________________5.000.000
Mirai Trunks SSJ_____________________155.000.000
Mirai Trunks (3 years later)___________ 15.000.000
Mirai Trunks SSJ_____________________165.000.000
Mirai Trunks (after training)___________30.000.000
Mirai Trunks SSJ_____________________180.000.000
Mirai Trunks SSJ 2nd Grade___________ 380.000.000
Mirai Trunks SSJ 3rd Grade____________630.000.000
Goku______________________________10.000.000
Goku SSJ__________________________ 160.000.000
Goku (3 years later)__________________20.000.000
Goku SSJ___________________________ 170.000.000
Goku (after training)_________________ 40.000.000
Goku MSSJ__________________________ 440.000.000
Gohan_____________________________ 500.000
Gohan (3 years later)_________________ 7.000.000
Gohan (after training)________________ 35.000.000
Gohan MSSJ ________________________ 435.000.000
Gohan SSJ2_________________________ 835.000.000
Android No.20_______________________60.000.000
Android No.19_______________________50.000.000
Android No.18_______________________200.000.000
Android No.17_______________________200.000.000
Android No.16_______________________250.000.000
Imperfect Cell ______________________150.000.000
Imperfect Cell (maximum absorption)___250.000.000
Semi-Perfect Cell____________________350.000.000
Cell Jrs.____________________________400.000.000
Perfect Cell (Full Power)______________450.000.000
Super Perfect Cell (Full Power)_________750.000.000
Majin Boo Saga:
Kuririn_____________________________________ 4.000.000
Yamcha____________________________________ 3.000.000
Chaos______________________________________ 100.000
Tenshinhan__________________________________10.000.000
Piccolo_____________________________________ 300.000.000
Goten (after training)_________________________ 2.300.000
Trunks (after training)_________________________2.700.000
Gotenks_____________________________________100.000.000
Gotenks SSJ__________________________________250.000.000
Gotenks SSJ3_________________________________1.300.000.000
Gohan_______________________________________20.000.000
Gohan SSJ2___________________________________820.000.000
Gohan (after training)__________________________30.000.000
Mystic Gohan_________________________________ 1.500.000.000
Vegeta_______________________________________50.000.000
Vegeta SSJ2___________________________________850.000.000
Goku_________________________________________50.000.000
Goku MSSJ____________________________________ 450.000.000
Goku SSJ2_____________________________________850.000.000
Goku SSJ3____________________________________ 1.250.000.000
Vegito (base)__________________________________ 2.000.000.000
Vegito MSSJ____________________________________2.800.000.000
Kibito_________________________________________125.000.000
East Supreme Kai_______________________________ 325.000.000
Kibito Kai______________________________________900.000.000
West Supreme Kai_______________________________ 500.000.000
North Supreme Kai_______________________________500.000.000
South Supreme Kai_______________________________1.200.000.000
Grand Supreme Kai______________________________ 700.000.000
Pui Pui_________________________________________10.000.000
Yakon_________________________________________ 120.000.000
Dabura_________________________________________750.000.000
Majin Boo (Original)______________________________1.100.000.000
Majin Boo (South Supreme Kai)____________________ 1.700.000.000
Majin Boo (Grand Supreme Kai + South Supreme Kai)___1.000.000.000
Good Boo______________________________________ 600.000.000
Evil Boo________________________________________ 900.000.000
Super Boo_______________________________________1.200.000.000
Super Boo (Gotenks SSJ3 + Piccolo)__________________2.000.000.000
Super Boo (Mystic Gohan + Piccolo + Goten + Trunks)___2.102.500.000
Kid Boo_________________________________________1.100.000.000
Majin Boo_______________________________________ 600.000.000
Battle of Gods Saga:
Piccolo___________________ 300.000.000
Goten____________________ 1.800.000
Trunks____________________2.200.000
Gotenks___________________80.000.000
Gotenks SSJ3_______________1.280.000.000
Gohan____________________ 15.000.000
Gohan (Full Power)_________ 750.000.000
Vegeta____________________50.000.000
Vegeta SSJ2________________850.000.000
Vegeta SSJ2 (Rage)__________1.700.000.000
Goku______________________60.000.000
Goku SSJ3__________________1.260.000.000
Goku Super Saiyan God_______18.000.000.000
Goku (base after limit time)___15.000.000.000
Goku (MSSJ + Godly Powers)___15.400.000.000
Beerus (5%)_________________1.500.000.000
Beerus (10%)________________3.000.000.000
Beerus (70%)________________21.000.000.000
Beerus_____________________30.000.000.000
Whis______________________ 45.000.000.000
Ressurrection of Freeza Saga:
Master Kame __________________150.000
Yamcha______________________ 120.000
Kuririn_______________________ 2.000.000
Chaos________________________ 100.000
Tenshinhan____________________10.000.000
Goten________________________ 1.200.000
Trunks________________________1.300.000
Gotenks_______________________50.000.000
Gotenks SSJ____________________250.000.000
Gohan________________________ 10.000.000
Gohan SSJ2____________________ 810.000.000
Piccolo________________________350.000.000
Sorbet_________________________10.000
Tagoma_______________________ 400.000.000
Goku__________________________70.000.000
Goku (Base + Godly Ki)__________ 1.400.000.000
Goku (Super Saiyan Blue)_________ 4.200.000.000
Goku (Heavily supressed)_________ 7.000
Vegeta________________________ 70.000.000
Vegeta (Base + Godly Ki)_________ 1.400.000.000
Vegeta (Super Saiyan Blue)________4.200.000.000
Freeza (1st Form)________________530.000.000
Freeza (4th Form)_______________ 1.300.000.000
Freeza (Golden Form)____________ 5.300.000.000
Freeza (Golden Form decreasing)___3.300.000.000
Champa's Tournement Saga:
Monaka____________________30
Majin Boo__________________600.000.000
Piccolo____________________400.000.000
Vegeta____________________ 75.000.000
Vegeta MSSJ________________475.000.000
Vegeta SSJ2________________ 875.000.000
Vegeta SSB_________________ 4.500.000.000
Vegeta SSB (10%)____________ 450.000.000
Goku_______________________75.000.000
Goku MSSJ__________________ 475.000.000
Goku SSG___________________ 3.750.000.000
Goku SSB___________________ 4.500.000.000
Goku SSB (Kaio-Ken 2x)_______ 9.000.000.000
Goku SSB (Kaio-Ken 10x)______ 27.000.000.000
Botamo_____________________50.000.000
Frost (1st Form)_____________ 60.000.000
Frost (3rd Form)_____________100.000.000
Frost (4th Form)_____________350.000.000
Magetta____________________700.000.000
Kyabe_____________________ 60.000.000
Kyabe SSJ__________________210.000.000
Hitto (Base supressed)________70.000.000
Hitto (Base)________________700.000.000
Hitto (Full Power)__________ 3.500.000.000
Hitto (0,2 sec Tokitobashi)___3.640.000.000
Hitto (0,5 sec Tokitobashi)___3.850.000.000
Hitto (1,0 sec Tokitobashi)___4.200.000.000
Champa_________________ 29.000.000.000
Beerus____________________ 30.000.000.000
Whis_____________________ 45.000.000.000
Vados_____________________46.000.000.000
Future Trunks Saga:
Mirai Trunks_______________________ 80.000.000
Mirai Trunks SSJ2___________________ 880.000.000
Mirai Trunks SSJ2 Full Power_________ 1.080.000.000
Mirai Trunks (after training)__________ 100.000.000
Mirai Trunks SSJ2____________________900.000.000
Mirai Trunks SSJ2 Full Power__________ 1.100.000.000
Mirai Trunks SSJ2 (Furious____________ 4.400.000.000
Mirai Trunks (Base After Zenkai)_______ 130.000.000
Mirai Trunks SSJ2 Full Power__________ 1.130.000.000
Mirai Trunks SSJR____________________5.850.000.000
Mirai Trunks SSJR (Spirit Sword)________11.700.000.000
Vegeta_____________________________75.000.000
Vegeta SSB_________________________ 4.500.000.000
Vegeta (After Training + Zenkai)_______ 100.000.000
Vegeta SSB__________________________6.000.000.000
Goku_______________________________80.000.000
Goku SSJ2___________________________880.000.000
Goku SSJ3___________________________1.280.000.000
Goku SSB____________________________4.800.000.000
Goku (After Zenkai)___________________100.000.000
Goku SSB____________________________6.000.000.000
Goku SSB (Rage Kamehameha)__________9.000.000.000
Goku SSB (Kaioken 2x)________________ 12.000.000.000
Vegetto_____________________________4.000.000.000
Vegetto SSB__________________________24.000.000.000
Zamasu_____________________________ 800.000.000
Mirai Zamasu_________________________1.000.000.000
Goku Black (Base)_____________________1.500.000.000
Goku Black (Base after Zenkai)__________1.750.000.000
Goku Black (Super Saiyan Rosé)_________ 5.250.000.000
Goku Black (Base 2nd Zenkai)___________1.900.000.000
Goku Black (Super Saiyan Rosé)_________ 5.700.000.000
Goku Black (Base 3rd Zenkai)___________ 2.000.000.000
Goku Black (Super Saiyan Rosé)_________ 6.000.000.000
Gattai Zamasu_______________________ 14.000.000.000
Gattai Zamasu (Damaged)______________7.000.000.000
Gattai Zamasu (Mutated)_______________17.500.000.000
Gattai Zamasu (Weakened Bulky Form)___10.500.000.000
Beerus______________________________ 30.000.000.000
Whis________________________________45.000.000.000
Daishinkan___________________________300.000.000.000[/spoiler]
Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread
I was going to say if Base Black is say about 500 times as strong as Base Goku then why does Super Saiyan Rose Black not seen more than a few times stronger than Super Saiyan Blue Goku?
And the guy above has SSJB being a 60x and SSJR being 3x which is sorta like what I mean.
It never really made much sense because Black didn't seem to power up that tremendously when he turned into his Rose form even though it's his equivalent of Super Saiyan Blue.
I tried doing a power level list giving them the same multiplier and it doesn't work.
And the guy above has SSJB being a 60x and SSJR being 3x which is sorta like what I mean.
It never really made much sense because Black didn't seem to power up that tremendously when he turned into his Rose form even though it's his equivalent of Super Saiyan Blue.
I tried doing a power level list giving them the same multiplier and it doesn't work.