MistareFusion's Dragon Ball Dissection! (Updated 4/1/24!)

[Kid Buu]

Makes you wonder how things would be if Freeza did spare them.

Namekieans: Well you need us to summon the Dragon and make the wish.
Freeza: Fine, but after this you're dead.
Namkieans: (in their language) teleport those fuckers to the Sun!

EDIT: And yes, Piccolo be dumb.

[RandomGuy96]

Yeah, Piccolo's not too smart.

I also love how literally no one gives a shit about Chaozu.

[dbzfan7]

Oh next time is gonna be so good. I can not wait for that one. It'd be cool to even touch upon the other supplementary material a bit such as Online, Xenoverse 2, etc. Bardock's been getting around lately.

[Kid Buu]

Finished the video. The part where Freeza impales Krillin quite creepy. Like I said before I thought the fight was good until he announces he has two more transformation, then it just starts to feel pointless.

Oh and congrats on making so many videos in 2016.

Yeah, Piccolo's not too smart.

I also love how literally no one gives a shit about Chaozu.

Recently I've been trying to rationalize Buu absorbing Piccolo for his intelligence and I think it kinda makes sense now. Buu's only judging Piccolo by his own interactions with him, and Buu Saga Piccolo does seem to be smarter than his usual self.

[Lunatic Fringe]

I was under the impression that the only reason Nail told Freeza that he was too late was because he didn't want Freeza to go after the Grand Elder next and torture him. That would render the chance of them getting their wishes granted down to zero anyways so he might as well go with the option that gives the heroes some hope and keeps the Grand Elder alive.

[jcogginsa]

Regarding goku's thoughts on sparing enemies: I don't think it's out of character for Goku to want to spare Burter and Recoome. They're already 'defeated' in his eyes, so beating them would just be Murder, not a fight.

[FoolsGil]

When it comes to killing, I always found it weird he had no problem wiping out the RR as a child, but will spare any joe blow as an adult.

[jcogginsa]

When it comes to killing, I always found it weird he had no problem wiping out the RR as a child, but will spare any joe blow as an adult.

Goku is not the same person he was as a kid. For one thing, he's received training from at least two gods since then

[DanielSSJ]

Finished the video. The part where Freeza impales Krillin quite creepy. Like I said before I thought the fight was good until he announces he has two more transformation, then it just starts to feel pointless.

Oh and congrats on making so many videos in 2016.

Yeah, Piccolo's not too smart.

I also love how literally no one gives a shit about Chaozu.

Recently I've been trying to rationalize Buu absorbing Piccolo for his intelligence and I think it kinda makes sense now. Buu's only judging Piccolo by his own interactions with him, and Buu Saga Piccolo does seem to be smarter than his usual self.

To be fair, Piccolo seemed to have gotten a lot more knowledgeable and wise after merging with Kami.

[ekrolo2]

When it comes to killing, I always found it weird he had no problem wiping out the RR as a child, but will spare any joe blow as an adult.

Goku is not the same person he was as a kid. For one thing, he's received training from at least two gods since then

Their worthless incompetence must've rubbed off on him pretty well to turn him a guy who's got no problems killing bad guys to a guy who stupidly spares bad guys.

[Geekdom101]

So bummed out we gotta wait for more.

[Kid Buu]

So bummed out we gotta wait for more.

Would have been fitting if he took a hiatus after the Recoome fight instead.

[RandomGuy96]

When it comes to killing, I always found it weird he had no problem wiping out the RR as a child, but will spare any joe blow as an adult.

Goku is not the same person he was as a kid. For one thing, he's received training from at least two gods since then

Their worthless incompetence must've rubbed off on him pretty well to turn him a guy who's got no problems killing bad guys to a guy who stupidly spares bad guys.

Kaio is competent.

So bummed out we gotta wait for more.

Would have been fitting if he took a hiatus after the Recoome fight instead.

I think this is a natural place to stop, right at the beginning of the Freeza fight. That's basically half the arc.

[Noah]

DBD: The Saiyan Arc Part 7!

So... I've been watching your videos since I got back reading the manga in that part. You said Piccolo lost his lost his usefulness in this very arc, really? You thought he was
dispensable in Freeza and Cell arcs?

And about Toriyama wanting to kill his characters just because he grow tired of writting them, it makes sense. I personally think he doesn't like Yamcha at all, but if some point he didn't like Tenshinhan it seems nowadays that he changed his mind (BoG, RoF, Super new arc). Interesting isn't? I wonder what made he changed his mind

[matt0044]

Like I said before I thought the fight was good until he announces he has two more transformation, then it just starts to feel pointless.

Well, it's point was to be people beating each other up so in that regard...

Though if going by the Anime where the fight is stretched out like the world's most unbreakable Taffy, yes, it got boring and created the whole "dragged outshonen battle" stereotype following Goku vs. Vegeta. Really, Dragon Ball (Z) Kai did it more justice by tightening up the pacing to a reasonable length (though they could've shaved off a bit more).

[Gaffer Tape]

DBD: The Saiyan Arc Part 7!

So... I've been watching your videos since I got back reading the manga in that part. You said Piccolo lost his lost his usefulness in this very arc, really? You thought he was
dispensable in Freeza and Cell arcs?

Oh, yes. Definitely. As I set up in the most recent video with the line "This had better be worth it" in regards to Nail only existing as a power-up for Piccolo, the answer to that statement is "It's not". Piccolo has nothing to do with the story and contributes next to nothing. The few things he does "accomplish" would have been better served being handed over to the characters the arc is actually about rather than forcing him into the story. And, really, none of those things couldn't have been done by somebody else. He's given this enormous build-up only for the result to fall flaccid in his hands.

The Cell Arc has him be a little more integral to the plot, but it still suffers from giving him a huge power-up that really amounts to nothing.

[matt0044]

Piccolo has nothing to do with the story and contributes next to nothing.

People often seem to take these things for granted on account for them finding the action cool or whatever. That or too much nostalgia for the DBZ Anime.

I guess the most Piccolo does get done is force Freeza into his third and fourth forms, the latter being everyone's favorite, even if Vegeta would've barely been a match for him. It does seems like Piccolo's return was like Bulma coming to space in terms of Toriyama's "It seemed good at the time" ideas. It makes for a decent enough fight but with Goku's inevitable return, well...

Mangaka really are at a disadvantage when it comes to lacking long-term planning compared to novelists, huh? Toriyama's famous for his writing by the seat of his pants style but that's due to the deadlines that comes in the Manga industry. Many other creators follow this pattern, leading to either brilliant storytelling or very poor choices that show.

Hell, I think the whole one-on-one fight thing is because Toriyama has trouble focusing on two character fighting together. As a Pokemon fanfic writer, I get the struggle but it's not impossible. Hell, it came make for some inventive battles.

[matt0044]

Did you ever talk about retconning or the like with how it turns out Goku's a Saiyan? I forget.

[DanielSSJ]

Did you ever talk about retconning or the like with how it turns out Goku's a Saiyan? I forget.

I believe he did during the Saiyan Arc videos. He says that despite being a retcon, the new information fits surprisingly well with what we already knew, e.i. things like Goku stating outright that Grandpa Gohan had found him, and how the Muten Roshi remembers Gohan telling him about the boy with a tail that he found, all of which was exposited during the first arc of the series. Heck, after transforming into a Great Ape, Oolong even says "What is he, some kind of space alien?"

[Geekdom101]

I'm gonna be sad that we won't get one in a bit but Lance needs more time!