Being born to a Saiyan who has already achieved SSJ doesn't mean anything consider Trunks was conceived before Vegeta became a SSJ. Trunks was able to became a SSJ off like it was nothing to him.DrakenballP wrote:Goten received it because of heritage, and bloodline. You are born to someone who has been a Super Saiyan which will make it easier for you to become a Saiyan yourself, not the case with Gohan as Goku was not a Super Saiyan during his birth.Lord Beerus wrote:Being Goku's son didn't make Gohan's journey to becoming SSJ any easier. He went through all kinds of hellish training just to reach the foundation level of power needed to transform into SSJ. Goten pulls it off by training with Chi Chi, of all people, and by accident. And he did this before he even knew how to fly.Dbzfan94 wrote:
Goten as Gokus son makes more sense transforming easily than some random girl. I like Caulifla but going by the NEP she already unlocks SSJ2 which is just dumb.
That being said, it also has ties hugely to emotion, which cannot be debated whatsoever. It was stated as so numerous times within DBZ, and DBS (even with Cabba being introduced) Kale and Cabba have shown two different emotions can cause you to reach Saiyan form.
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We don't know that.Lord Beerus wrote:Trunks was conceived before Vegeta became a SSJ.
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Trunks was born at the time Vegeta was a Super Saiyan, with the Saiyan blood coursing through Trunks veins. Vegeta had the full ability to go Super Saiyan prior to Trunks conception.Lord Beerus wrote:Being born to a Saiyan who has already achieved SSJ doesn't mean anything consider Trunks was conceived before Vegeta became a SSJ. Trunks was able to became a SSJ off like it was nothing to him.DrakenballP wrote:Goten received it because of heritage, and bloodline. You are born to someone who has been a Super Saiyan which will make it easier for you to become a Saiyan yourself, not the case with Gohan as Goku was not a Super Saiyan during his birth.Lord Beerus wrote: Being Goku's son didn't make Gohan's journey to becoming SSJ any easier. He went through all kinds of hellish training just to reach the foundation level of power needed to transform into SSJ. Goten pulls it off by training with Chi Chi, of all people, and by accident. And he did this before he even knew how to fly.
That being said, it also has ties hugely to emotion, which cannot be debated whatsoever. It was stated as so numerous times within DBZ, and DBS (even with Cabba being introduced) Kale and Cabba have shown two different emotions can cause you to reach Saiyan form.
Here's an example: Future Trunks' Timelines Vegeta was extremely weak in comparison to the Vegeta we know. Future Trunks didn't reach SS until he was around the age of 13 and he had to train his ass off for it. Due to the strength of Vegeta and him having reached Saiyan upon Trunks birth in the DBZ timeline we know, Trunks was able to obtain it a lot easier than that of Future Trunks.
Trunks in the DBZ Timeline trained with Vegeta plenty as a child, and Goten had trained with Gohan on numerous occasions, furthering their ability to obtain Super Saiyan. Goten cracked due to emotional state at the time and that's what pushed his power into Super Saiyan form.
This is offered as another explanation for why Goten and Trunks are so much stronger than Gohan or Goku were at their ages.
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Future Trunks states when he first arrives that he will be conceived in two and a half years. Vegeta had already bailed out and went to space or someplace far way to find a way to become a SSJ. Now unless Vegeta had become a Super Saiyan in less than two years, came back to screwed Bulma and then bailed on her, which wouldn't make that much sense given that Bulma states she had no idea where Vegeta was or what he was doing apart from the fact he was training hard after the three year waiting period before the Androids arrived, Trunks was not fathered by a Saiyan who had become a SSJ. There is nothing to imply that Vegeta had the ability to become a SSJ before Trunks was born.DrakenballP wrote:Trunks was born at the time Vegeta was a Super Saiyan, with the Saiyan blood coursing through Trunks veins. Vegeta had the full ability to go Super Saiyan prior to Trunks conception.Lord Beerus wrote:Being born to a Saiyan who has already achieved SSJ doesn't mean anything consider Trunks was conceived before Vegeta became a SSJ. Trunks was able to became a SSJ off like it was nothing to him.DrakenballP wrote:
Goten received it because of heritage, and bloodline. You are born to someone who has been a Super Saiyan which will make it easier for you to become a Saiyan yourself, not the case with Gohan as Goku was not a Super Saiyan during his birth.
That being said, it also has ties hugely to emotion, which cannot be debated whatsoever. It was stated as so numerous times within DBZ, and DBS (even with Cabba being introduced) Kale and Cabba have shown two different emotions can cause you to reach Saiyan form.
Here's an example: Future Trunks' Timelines Vegeta was extremely weak in comparison to the Vegeta we know. Future Trunks didn't reach SS until he was around the age of 13 and he had to train his ass off for it. Due to the strength of Vegeta and him having reached Saiyan upon Trunks birth in the DBZ timeline we know, Trunks was able to obtain it a lot easier than that of Future Trunks.
Trunks in the DBZ Timeline trained with Vegeta plenty as a child, and Goten had trained with Gohan on numerous occasions, furthering their ability to obtain Super Saiyan. Goten cracked due to emotional state at the time and that's what pushed his power into Super Saiyan form.
This is offered as another explanation for why Goten and Trunks are so much stronger than Gohan or Goku were at their ages.
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There's really no way to tell. We don't know how Vegeta trained, how long, how often he came back to Earth, how often he hooked up with Bulma, at what point in his training Vegeta became a SSJ, and so on. It's all assumptions. And, as such, we have no way to know if Vegeta was a SSJ already when he conceived Trunks.Lord Beerus wrote: Future Trunks states when he first arrives that he will be conceived in two and a half years. Vegeta had already bailed out and went to space or someplace far way to find a way to become a SSJ. Now unless Vegeta had become a Super Saiyan in less than two years, came back to screwed Bulma and then bailed on her, which wouldn't make that much sense given that Bulma states she had no idea where Vegeta was or what he was doing apart from the fact he was training hard after the three year waiting period before the Androids arrived, Trunks was not fathered by a Saiyan who had become a SSJ. There is nothing to imply that Vegeta had the ability to become a SSJ before Trunks was born.
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Not if freeza was offering questionable sexual experiences with him..Steven Bloodriver wrote:Gog, I know for a fact you would have voted for him...Gog wrote:
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When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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The more things like this I see, the clearer it is that tingly back SSJ is one of the worst decisions Toei (or Toriyama) has made in Super, at least in terms of fan reception. Not trying to start a debate on that here, just an observation.FoolsGil wrote:[spoiler]
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Definitely agree here.Alruneia wrote: The more things like this I see, the clearer it is that tingly back SSJ is one of the worst decisions Toei (or Toriyama) has made in Super, at least in terms of fan reception. Not trying to start a debate on that here, just an observation.