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Post by Scsigs » Tue May 09, 2017 1:32 am

IAmTheMilkMan wrote:I suppose it's time for an update:

First things first, a piracy website appears to be gone for good, unfortunately, and that was my primary method of sharing this thing. I'll try to figure something else out eventually, but for now you'll just have to ask me really nicely if you'd like to see it.

Kai Recut is coming along nicely and I'm working on it regularly, but as I said before, the score replacement is really slowing me down. However, I've got a better handle on it now and things are going much more smoothly than they were. Once I'm done with the first 98, I'm going to go back to the beginning, do some revisions, and then probably start rolling the episodes out in arcs.

I'm getting very excited the more I work on this. What began as a simple remove-what-filler-is-left project has turned into it's own thing entirely. I'm really trying to make it a better product than the original Kai by re-inserting uncensored footage, attempting to remedy odd cuts whenever possible, and fixing any dub/sub mistakes that I find, not to mention hewing even more closely to the manga. By cutting out the remaining filler, I think it actually significantly changes how a couple of characters come across in the anime, namely Chi-Chi and Vegeta. I'm excited for other people to see it.

Once I hit the Buu saga, I'll be using the Final Chapters blu-rays as my video source and I'll remove the green tint manually, which doesn't sound particularly difficult. Eventually, I might create a 4:3 version using Dragon Box footage.

As for Z Recut, I'm still waiting on a couple of key elements that I would like to have before I really begin work on it (I want to do this thing right). Not only that, but I'll likely finish up Kai before really diving into it. However, after having gone through Kai, I'll be pretty familiar with what needs to be done so, hopefully, it will be a relatively simple process. I'll be using Dragon Box footage initially, but will probably create an HD version as well using Kai/Level set footage.
I know you said you're sourcing the dub audio from Kai for both, but what music are you using; Kikuchi, or Yamamoto? I mean, if you already create dub masters with the Kikuchi score, that'd take some time off editing Z when you get to it if you do it with Kai. Just food for thought. I'll support which music you use, I'm just curious.
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Post by Zacharybinx34 » Tue May 09, 2017 2:07 am

IAmTheMilkMan wrote:I suppose it's time for an update:

First things first, a piracy website appears to be gone for good, unfortunately, and that was my primary method of sharing this thing. I'll try to figure something else out eventually, but for now you'll just have to ask me really nicely if you'd like to see it.

Kai Recut is coming along nicely and I'm working on it regularly, but as I said before, the score replacement is really slowing me down. However, I've got a better handle on it now and things are going much more smoothly than they were. Once I'm done with the first 98, I'm going to go back to the beginning, do some revisions, and then probably start rolling the episodes out in arcs.

I'm getting very excited the more I work on this. What began as a simple remove-what-filler-is-left project has turned into it's own thing entirely. I'm really trying to make it a better product than the original Kai by re-inserting uncensored footage, attempting to remedy odd cuts whenever possible, and fixing any dub/sub mistakes that I find, not to mention hewing even more closely to the manga. By cutting out the remaining filler, I think it actually significantly changes how a couple of characters come across in the anime, namely Chi-Chi and Vegeta. I'm excited for other people to see it.

Once I hit the Buu saga, I'll be using the Final Chapters blu-rays as my video source and I'll remove the green tint manually, which doesn't sound particularly difficult. Eventually, I might create a 4:3 version using Dragon Box footage.

As for Z Recut, I'm still waiting on a couple of key elements that I would like to have before I really begin work on it (I want to do this thing right). Not only that, but I'll likely finish up Kai before really diving into it. However, after having gone through Kai, I'll be pretty familiar with what needs to be done so, hopefully, it will be a relatively simple process. I'll be using Dragon Box footage initially, but will probably create an HD version as well using Kai/Level set footage.
So we'll be able to use the English dubs then?

Also, by re-inserting uncensored footage, do you mean you are adding back in the full fights?

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Post by Danfun64 » Tue May 09, 2017 2:31 am

I think uncensored means stuff visible penises and Raditz's gory demise
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Post by IAmTheMilkMan » Tue May 09, 2017 4:45 am

I'm using Yamamoto for Kai 1-98, and Kikuchi for Z.
Zacharybinx34 wrote:So we'll be able to use the English dubs then?
Not quite sure what you mean here. Yes, the English dub will be included.
Zacharybinx34 wrote:Also, by re-inserting uncensored footage, do you mean you are adding back in the full fights?
Danfun64 wrote:I think uncensored means stuff visible penises and Raditz's gory demise
Danfun64 is correct. I am swapping out the shots that were edited for violence/nudity/etc. with their unedited counterparts. I'm actually shortening quite a few of the fights to more closely mirror the manga, so you're going to be disappointed if that's what you're looking for.
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Post by Danfun64 » Tue May 09, 2017 12:54 pm

IAmTheMilkMan wrote:I'm using Yamamoto for Kai 1-98
...but...Yamamoto was never in Kai 96-98. Does this mean the Japanese and English versions will have different soundtracks?
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Post by Zacharybinx34 » Tue May 09, 2017 5:16 pm

IAmTheMilkMan wrote:I'm using Yamamoto for Kai 1-98, and Kikuchi for Z.
Zacharybinx34 wrote:So we'll be able to use the English dubs then?
Not quite sure what you mean here. Yes, the English dub will be included.
Zacharybinx34 wrote:Also, by re-inserting uncensored footage, do you mean you are adding back in the full fights?
Danfun64 wrote:I think uncensored means stuff visible penises and Raditz's gory demise
Danfun64 is correct. I am swapping out the shots that were edited for violence/nudity/etc. with their unedited counterparts. I'm actually shortening quite a few of the fights to more closely mirror the manga, so you're going to be disappointed if that's what you're looking for.
Oh bummer. Didn't know you were adding the nudes in.

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Post by Fizzer » Tue May 09, 2017 5:21 pm

About how many episodes does Kai (1-98) come to? Do you expect the number for Z to be significantly different?

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Post by IAmTheMilkMan » Wed May 10, 2017 12:15 am

Danfun64 wrote:
IAmTheMilkMan wrote:I'm using Yamamoto for Kai 1-98
...but...Yamamoto was never in Kai 96-98. Does this mean the Japanese and English versions will have different soundtracks?
Yes, the Japanese soundtrack will be Kikuchi only for those episodes as it is damn near impossible to create a BGM-less audio track from stereo, at least for me. Sorry for not specifying, I assumed you would know what I meant. I may add an English Kikuchi track as well for those episodes as a third option for those who wish to stick with what was originally broadcast.
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IAmTheMilkMan wrote:Danfun64 is correct. I am swapping out the shots that were edited for violence/nudity/etc. with their unedited counterparts. I'm actually shortening quite a few of the fights to more closely mirror the manga, so you're going to be disappointed if that's what you're looking for.
Oh bummer. Didn't know you were adding the nudes in.
It's not like I'm dying to see baby Goku's little weiner or anything, but censorship is censorship.
Fizzer wrote:About how many episodes does Kai (1-98) come to? Do you expect the number for Z to be significantly different?
It comes out to roughly 83-85 episodes. I don't expect to get nearly as lucky with that number while editing Z, as I'm sure there are a lot of cuts that were only made possible by Kai having already made them, but I don't expect the difference to be too severe.
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Post by Zacharybinx34 » Wed May 10, 2017 1:22 am

IAmTheMilkMan wrote:
Danfun64 wrote:
IAmTheMilkMan wrote:I'm using Yamamoto for Kai 1-98
...but...Yamamoto was never in Kai 96-98. Does this mean the Japanese and English versions will have different soundtracks?
Yes, the Japanese soundtrack will be Kikuchi only for those episodes as it is damn near impossible to create a BGM-less audio track from stereo, at least for me. Sorry for not specifying, I assumed you would know what I meant. I may add an English Kikuchi track as well for those episodes as a third option for those who wish to stick with what was originally broadcast.
Zacharybinx34 wrote:
IAmTheMilkMan wrote:Danfun64 is correct. I am swapping out the shots that were edited for violence/nudity/etc. with their unedited counterparts. I'm actually shortening quite a few of the fights to more closely mirror the manga, so you're going to be disappointed if that's what you're looking for.
Oh bummer. Didn't know you were adding the nudes in.
It's not like I'm dying to see baby Goku's little weiner or anything, but censorship is censorship.
Fizzer wrote:About how many episodes does Kai (1-98) come to? Do you expect the number for Z to be significantly different?
It comes out to roughly 83-85 episodes. I don't expect to get nearly as lucky with that number while editing Z, as I'm sure there are a lot of cuts that were only made possible by Kai having already made them, but I don't expect the difference to be too severe.
Is that all it is? I can't remember if original Japanese DBZ and porn in it or not.

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Post by IAmTheMilkMan » Wed May 10, 2017 1:40 am

Zacharybinx34 wrote:Is that all it is? I can't remember if original Japanese DBZ and porn in it or not.
Yeah, that's all it is. There was never anything approaching porn in Dragon Ball or Z.
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Post by Danfun64 » Wed May 10, 2017 2:24 am

IAmTheMilkMan wrote:There was never anything approaching porn in Dragon Ball or Z.
Z...yes. Original DB... there's the infamous moment where Krillin pulls down Bulma's shirt so Roshi could see her boobs (which are completely visible if you freeze frame at the right moment), as well as a filler moment where Roshi operates a camera drone in the beach and tries to watch a woman take off her top. (If you freeze frame at the right moment, her breasts are completely exposed...albeit without any visible nipples)
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Post by IAmTheMilkMan » Wed May 10, 2017 2:30 am

Danfun64 wrote:
IAmTheMilkMan wrote:Yeah, that's all it is. There was never anything approaching porn in Dragon Ball or Z.
Z...yes. Original DB... there's the infamous moment where Krillin pulls down Bulma's shirt so Roshi could see her boobs (which are completely visible if you freeze frame at the right moment), as well as a filler moment where Roshi operates a camera drone in the beach and tries to watch a woman take off her top. (If you freeze frame at the right moment, her breasts are completely exposed...albeit without any visible nipples)
I wouldn't call that "porn", but yes, it's racier than anything in Z.
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Post by Zacharybinx34 » Wed May 10, 2017 3:49 pm

IAmTheMilkMan wrote:
Danfun64 wrote:
IAmTheMilkMan wrote:Yeah, that's all it is. There was never anything approaching porn in Dragon Ball or Z.
Z...yes. Original DB... there's the infamous moment where Krillin pulls down Bulma's shirt so Roshi could see her boobs (which are completely visible if you freeze frame at the right moment), as well as a filler moment where Roshi operates a camera drone in the beach and tries to watch a woman take off her top. (If you freeze frame at the right moment, her breasts are completely exposed...albeit without any visible nipples)
I wouldn't call that "porn", but yes, it's racier than anything in Z.
So how did you find Dragon Ball Z Kai episodes through Season 7? I could only find through season 5?

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Post by Scsigs » Wed May 10, 2017 11:10 pm

Zacharybinx34 wrote:
IAmTheMilkMan wrote:
Danfun64 wrote: Z...yes. Original DB... there's the infamous moment where Krillin pulls down Bulma's shirt so Roshi could see her boobs (which are completely visible if you freeze frame at the right moment), as well as a filler moment where Roshi operates a camera drone in the beach and tries to watch a woman take off her top. (If you freeze frame at the right moment, her breasts are completely exposed...albeit without any visible nipples)
I wouldn't call that "porn", but yes, it's racier than anything in Z.
So how did you find Dragon Ball Z Kai episodes through Season 7? I could only find through season 5?
You realize there are ONLY 5 seasons of Kai, right? TFC is 5, hence one of the reasons they're only doing Part sets & not Seasons.
Even then, "seasons" isn't even the right terminology to use, since that's how FUNimation markets the series, not Toei. You'd really have to go by Arcs & there's only 4 in Kai, Saiyan, Frieza, Androids, & Buu.

To answer your question, though, didn't you read when he typed that he was gonna source everything from FUNi's sets? (I assume he's doing MORE with FUNi's sets than simply sourcing the dub audio at least.)
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Post by Zacharybinx34 » Thu May 11, 2017 12:33 am

Scsigs wrote:
Zacharybinx34 wrote:
IAmTheMilkMan wrote: I wouldn't call that "porn", but yes, it's racier than anything in Z.
So how did you find Dragon Ball Z Kai episodes through Season 7? I could only find through season 5?
You realize there are ONLY 5 seasons of Kai, right? TFC is 5, hence one of the reasons they're only doing Part sets & not Seasons.
Even then, "seasons" isn't even the right terminology to use, since that's how FUNimation markets the series, not Toei. You'd really have to go by Arcs & there's only 4 in Kai, Saiyan, Frieza, Androids, & Buu.

To answer your question, though, didn't you read when he typed that he was gonna source everything from FUNi's sets? (I assume he's doing MORE with FUNi's sets than simply sourcing the dub audio at least.)
Ok, so why can't I find the buu saga?

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Post by Scsigs » Thu May 11, 2017 12:55 am

Zacharybinx34 wrote:
Scsigs wrote:
Zacharybinx34 wrote:
So how did you find Dragon Ball Z Kai episodes through Season 7? I could only find through season 5?
You realize there are ONLY 5 seasons of Kai, right? TFC is 5, hence one of the reasons they're only doing Part sets & not Seasons.
Even then, "seasons" isn't even the right terminology to use, since that's how FUNimation markets the series, not Toei. You'd really have to go by Arcs & there's only 4 in Kai, Saiyan, Frieza, Androids, & Buu.

To answer your question, though, didn't you read when he typed that he was gonna source everything from FUNi's sets? (I assume he's doing MORE with FUNi's sets than simply sourcing the dub audio at least.)
Ok, so why can't I find the buu saga?
Because the entire thing hasn't been released yet. You can find the Japanese broadcast versions of the episodes, or maybe even the French BD-rips, but until all of the sets are out here in America, the show is incomplete on home media here in the states.
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Post by Helios518 » Thu May 11, 2017 5:50 am

IAmTheMilkMan wrote:
Fizzer wrote:About how many episodes does Kai (1-98) come to?
It comes out to roughly 83-85 episodes.
What filler was left in Kai 1.0 that you managed to cut 13 - 16 episodes?
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Post by DB_Fan1991 » Thu May 11, 2017 2:21 pm

Off the top of my head there's the Ginyu switching bodies with Bulma filler and Gohan's fight with Final form Freeza which leads up into Goku rising up out of the water.
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Post by DefinitiveDubs » Fri May 12, 2017 9:51 am

You did say you were going to insert Kai's dub into the Z recut right? That's what I'm looking forward to more than anything.

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Post by Zacharybinx34 » Fri May 12, 2017 12:48 pm

Is the edited Dragonball kid appropriate? Any nudity in it?

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