General Fan Fiction Thread

[Kanassa]

After watching some of the recent Dragon Ball Dissection episodes, how would you guys go about remaking the Freeza arc?

Which one are we referring to here?

[ekrolo2]

After watching some of the recent Dragon Ball Dissection episodes, how would you guys go about remaking the Freeza arc?

Which one are we referring to here?

The last 2-3 concerning the stuff from the Freeza fight onwards. Like how the battle powers get ridiculously bloated, how the entire everyone vs Freeza fight means nothing because Freeza can just transform and heal any injury dealt him at will, how Piccolo & Goku are shoehorned in and have no stakes with anything, usurping a story that majoritively hinges on Vegeta, Gohan and Krillin just so they can do cool, almost universally pointless things.

[Kanassa]

After watching some of the recent Dragon Ball Dissection episodes, how would you guys go about remaking the Freeza arc?

Which one are we referring to here?

The last 2-3 concerning the stuff from the Freeza fight onwards. Like how the battle powers get ridiculously bloated, how the entire everyone vs Freeza fight means nothing because Freeza can just transform and heal any injury dealt him at will, how Piccolo & Goku are shoehorned in and have no stakes with anything, usurping a story that majoritively hinges on Vegeta, Gohan and Krillin just so they can do cool, almost universally pointless things.

Instead of Goku arriving and killing off Jeice and Ginyu, I'd have those two survive to act as enemies for Gohan and Krillin to handle. With Vegeta fighting Frieza in an obviously losing battle, getting saved by Piccolo and then the two spending most of their time running from Frieza until Goku gets up (With Frieza already being in his final form, Vegeta establishing that Frieza's 100% form would be incredibly straining).

Hell, maybe even have Ginyu manage to get a message out to Frieza's Father to foreshadow his return. Or have his whole switching plot done with Krillin and Gohan.

[FoolsGil]

After watching some of the recent Dragon Ball Dissection episodes, how would you guys go about remaking the Freeza arc?

Had to rewatch the episodes. I supposed this is how I’d do it. If I don’t mention something, assume it’s the same as in canon.

Arc is pretty much the same until we get to Namek:

1) The reason why Kami’s ship gets destroyed is different. They meet one Soldier. Krillin and Gohan felt he was stronger but figured they could take him with tactics. Turned out that wasn’t the case. They beat him, but in the ensuing battle, the Soldier fires a shot, it misses and goes into the ship. This gives them a better fight scene than those two punch chumps.

2) Freeza doesn’t have 4 balls and Moori is to be his fifth; He’s on his second ball, and Moori’s is to be his third.

3) Gohan and Krillin go after Freeza, see if they could do what they can. Bulma has a hovercar, and over the years had made a spare dragonball radar, she goes to get the other dragonball closest to them while Gohan has the other radar

4) Things go the same in canon except Difference that Bulma gets her dragonball, and a Namekian Warrior named Tsumuri, goes with her under orders from his village elder. He looks nothing like Piccolo and he’s stronger than Krillin and Gohan, but nowhere near Cui’s Power who like in canon got wiped out. Feeling lucky, Bulma decides to go for another village

5) Vegeta gets to the same village that Bulma and Tsumuri were about to get to. Bulma convinces Tsumuri to not needlessly waste his life going suicide by Vegeta, she tells him after they can be resurrected, but only if she and Tsumuri survive long enough to get all the balls. Vegeta throws his ball in a lake. When he leaves, Bulma retrieves it. Feeling their luck has ran out, she and Tsumuri head back to the cave Bulma would have otherwise been stuck in. Trying to find Vegeta, Zarbon finds Tsumuri's village, massacres them, but is dejected to find they were telling the truth about not having a Dragonball.

6) Tsumuri and Dende get into contact with each other and both decide they need to get the Earthlings to Guru, Bulma stays and contacts Earth. Tsumuri and Gohan stay as bodyguards. Zarbon meets Vegeta after he sacked another village. Zarbon transforms beats Vegeta, leaves him in a lake, but does take the other ball.

At this point, Freeza has 3 balls, Zarbon is on route with the fourth, Z Fighters has 2, and Guru has the last one.

7) Freeza is less mad because of that ball Zarbon has, but still wants Vegeta up and running to interrogate him for the other ball he hidden, that Bulma stole. Things happen in canon at the ship, with Vegeta getting those four balls Freeza has.

8.) Krillin’s power raise via Guru is far more substantial. He still leads Zarbon and Vegeta to Bulma and company, but feels in a Mexican standoff, he can up with Zarbon and Vegeta long enough for the others to escape. Bulma, Gohan, and Tsumuri head to Guru’s, while Zarbon vs Krillin vs Vegeta happens. Krillin can barely keep up, and when he has reached his limits he uses the Taiyoken to escape. Zarbon refuses to let Vegeta escape when he tries to go after Krillin. After a more satisfying fight than in canon Vegeta kills Zarbon. He wants to kill Krillin and the others but must make sure the balls are safe. He finds out the hard way the ball at the lake was taken, but keeps his rage down to hold on to the other four

Freeza = 0 Balls, Vegeta = 4 Balls, Z Fighters = 3 Balls. Also it’s revealed that the Namekian Dragonballs do 2 wishes, not three.

9) Freeza contacts the Ginyu Force. Vegeta gets tipped off to where the Z Fighters are when they make a break for it near Guru’s (Bulma was dropped off in another cave) Tsumuri and Gohan get their powers unlocked. With Krillin, they have a 50/50 chance to take down Vegeta, and with Nail there his death would be certain. But then the Ginyu Force reveals themselves. Tsumuri goes with Vegeta, Gohan, and Krillin.

10) Guldo is in better shape, but still succumbs to a Kienzan Krillin threw before being paralyzed ; he telepathically sends it at Guldo, chopping his head off.

11) Tsumuri slams Recoome’s head during the eraser gun, and says the only one who’ll kill Vegeta is him. Recoome beats the stuffing out of Tsumuri, but didn’t expect Tsumuri’s eye beams to puncture his neck, he panics, allowing Tsumuri to kill him, but now no one is in shape for Burter, who proceeds to whip everyone, until Goku appears.

12) Ginyu doesn’t have a soul switching technique. But he is stronger than Goku when uses his currently highest level of Kaioken (Was it ten or twenty?) Goku has his work cut out for him. Tsumuri tells Krillin and Gohan to get their wishes done, while he holds off Jeice

13) Goku finally kills Ginyu, taking advantage of his ability to not sense energy, and having destroyed the scouter in the fight, but is severely wounded. Jeice freaks out and escapes and heads to find Freeza at his ship, running smack dab into Vegeta, who easily kills him. Tsumuri takes Goku to Freeza’s ship where Goku is put in a pod. Tsumuri is too heavily injured from Jeice to be much use. When Dende gets to the ship, he heals Tsumuri. Gohan decides that since Goku is currently being healed, it’s okay to let him do that in the pod while they start wishing on the Dragonballs. Tsumuri hears Guru in his head to go to Nail

14) Only one wish is made; bring Kami back to life. Before any other wish was to be considered, Vegeta woke up and was demanding immortality. Guru dies before Tsumuri reaches Nail, but he feels his withering power level

15) Freeza has only 2 forms, his current and the fourth form we know from canon. However Vegeta is nowhere near 530,000. His Zenkai after almost being killed by Recoome brought him to equal Goku’s max Power at that time, which still couldn’t defeat Ginyu without clever trickery. Freeza pretty much handles Vegeta, Krillin, and Gohan. It’s Tsumuri, fused with Nail that saves the day, but it’s then that Freeza does as Vegeta suggested earlier and transform. He makes mincemeat of Tsumuri, and prevents Vegeta’s escape, which tells Krillin, Gohan and Dende Freeza won’t let them escape.

16) Vegeta when revived with another Zenkai does match Freeza. But Freeza states he’s only using 10% and goes to 50%. Like with Ginyu, Goku is outmatched, but uses Freeza’s inability to sense ki to keep ahead, but even that barely keeps him ahead.

17) At 100% Freeza however has SSJ Goku on the ropes but Freeza's body starts giving out, allowing Goku to wallop Freeza at the end. He decides to spare Freeza so he'll come back after training his Final form to a level to sustain a fight. But like in canon Freeza brings in the Death Slicers.

18) Everyone including the Namekians Vegeta killed are brought back. Due to the two wish issue, things take longer but eventually everything works out for everyone with both sets of dragonballs. Because of Vegeta, and Tsumuri's and Nail's combined prejudice, the day before the Namekians use the dragonballs one last time, Tsumuri goes to Piccolo and negotiates another fusion, so if Vegeta ever goes rogue, Piccolo can destroy him. The fusion gives Piccolo a newfound level of peace, and even more powerful kinship towards Gohan, Bulma, and Krillin, seeing their bravery through Nail and Tsumuri's eyes. Of course Krillin and Gohan welcome this new Piccolo. Bulma is sad that Tsumuri is gone and is a bit afraid of Piccolo, but she'll try and be more friendly to Piccolo.

Reasons and Commentary here:
[spoiler]-Nail and Bulma were worthless. To fix it, reduce Freeza's Dragonballs amount so Bulma can get a ball, and to deal with the Nail problem, add another Namekian warrior as a stand in for Piccolo, and give Bulma someone to bond with, like Gohan and Krillin did with Dende

-Fighting wise, Krillin was worthless. The Potential Unlock brings him to a level that his martial arts training and tactics will allow him to keep up with Vegeta and their enemies

-Ginyu Force Battles is the same as the Saiyan Battles? Allow heavy casualties to happen to the Ginyu Force, but due to higher strengths and more opponents, the Z team would still struggle and slowly succumb to the Ginyu Force, but then Goku appears.

-There's really nothing that can be done to fix Goku. Namek isn't his story, he has no connection to Namek, but we need Goku. I figured to subvert things that at least aside from Burter, every fight he has will be a fight for his life. Instead of the body switch crap, Ginyu in a straight fight will kill Goku. Even at Super Saiyan, if Freeza was the type to train at 100%, Goku would have lost. This shows Goku is not infallible; and may push the story in a more suspenseful path, that Goku has problems sealing the deal. Would be compounded by him not being able to defeat Cell. By the time Goku fights Buu, everyone will be so surprised he was able to finally get a win.

-Piccolo was the load, and Namek wasn't his story. doesn't go to Namek, Tsumuri fills in for Piccolo and Nail,

-Freeza had 6 B.S. Saves; 3 Forms, 2 power upgrades, breathe in space. Keep the suspense by making sure Vegeta can't get to 530,000. It took Tsumuri and Nail cheating to force Freeza to his second form (which is canon fourth) Freeza wallops Tsumuri Then Freeza at 50% wallops Vegeta and Goku can only keep up because of his fight with Ginyu. And at 100% Freeza for awhile has Goku dead to rights, and then breathe in space. Now Freeza has only 4 B.S. Saves, and it's far less padding than in canon, and more suspenseful

-and because we can't have three Namekians pn Earth and one so much more developed than Gohan's favorite, Tsumuri will be the bigger Namekian and give up his body to keep Bulma and her friends safe from Vegeta (Piccolo isn't going to be happy about Bulma and Vegeta hooking up because Tsumuri, lol)[/spoiler]

[ekrolo2]

After watching some of the recent Dragon Ball Dissection episodes, how would you guys go about remaking the Freeza arc?

Had to rewatch the episodes. I supposed this is how I’d do it. If I don’t mention something, assume it’s the same as in canon.

Arc is pretty much the same until we get to Namek:

1) The reason why Kami’s ship gets destroyed is different. They meet one Soldier. Krillin and Gohan felt he was stronger but figured they could take him with tactics. Turned out that wasn’t the case. They beat him, but in the ensuing battle, the Soldier fires a shot, it misses and goes into the ship. This gives them a better fight scene than those two punch chumps.

2) Freeza doesn’t have 4 balls and Moori is to be his fifth; He’s on his second ball, and Moori’s is to be his third.

3) Gohan and Krillin go after Freeza, see if they could do what they can. Bulma has a hovercar, and over the years had made a spare dragonball radar, she goes to get the other dragonball closest to them while Gohan has the other radar

4) Things go the same in canon except Difference that Bulma gets her dragonball, and a Namekian Warrior named Tsumuri, goes with her under orders from his village elder. He looks nothing like Piccolo and he’s stronger than Krillin and Gohan, but nowhere near Cui’s Power who like in canon got wiped out. Feeling lucky, Bulma decides to go for another village

5) Vegeta gets to the same village that Bulma and Tsumuri were about to get to. Bulma convinces Tsumuri to not needlessly waste his life going suicide by Vegeta, she tells him after they can be resurrected, but only if she and Tsumuri survive long enough to get all the balls. Vegeta throws his ball in a lake. When he leaves, Bulma retrieves it. Feeling their luck has ran out, she and Tsumuri head back to the cave Bulma would have otherwise been stuck in. Trying to find Vegeta, Zarbon finds Tsumuri's village, massacres them, but is dejected to find they were telling the truth about not having a Dragonball.

6) Tsumuri and Dende get into contact with each other and both decide they need to get the Earthlings to Guru, Bulma stays and contacts Earth. Tsumuri and Gohan stay as bodyguards. Zarbon meets Vegeta after he sacked another village. Zarbon transforms beats Vegeta, leaves him in a lake, but does take the other ball.

At this point, Freeza has 3 balls, Zarbon is on route with the fourth, Z Fighters has 2, and Guru has the last one.

7) Freeza is less mad because of that ball Zarbon has, but still wants Vegeta up and running to interrogate him for the other ball he hidden, that Bulma stole. Things happen in canon at the ship, with Vegeta getting those four balls Freeza has.

8.) Krillin’s power raise via Guru is far more substantial. He still leads Zarbon and Vegeta to Bulma and company, but feels in a Mexican standoff, he can up with Zarbon and Vegeta long enough for the others to escape. Bulma, Gohan, and Tsumuri head to Guru’s, while Zarbon vs Krillin vs Vegeta happens. Krillin can barely keep up, and when he has reached his limits he uses the Taiyoken to escape. Zarbon refuses to let Vegeta escape when he tries to go after Krillin. After a more satisfying fight than in canon Vegeta kills Zarbon. He wants to kill Krillin and the others but must make sure the balls are safe. He finds out the hard way the ball at the lake was taken, but keeps his rage down to hold on to the other four

Freeza = 0 Balls, Vegeta = 4 Balls, Z Fighters = 3 Balls. Also it’s revealed that the Namekian Dragonballs do 2 wishes, not three.

9) Freeza contacts the Ginyu Force. Vegeta gets tipped off to where the Z Fighters are when they make a break for it near Guru’s (Bulma was dropped off in another cave) Tsumuri and Gohan get their powers unlocked. With Krillin, they have a 50/50 chance to take down Vegeta, and with Nail there his death would be certain. But then the Ginyu Force reveals themselves. Tsumuri goes with Vegeta, Gohan, and Krillin.

10) Guldo is in better shape, but still succumbs to a Kienzan Krillin threw before being paralyzed ; he telepathically sends it at Guldo, chopping his head off.

11) Tsumuri slams Recoome’s head during the eraser gun, and says the only one who’ll kill Vegeta is him. Recoome beats the stuffing out of Tsumuri, but didn’t expect Tsumuri’s eye beams to puncture his neck, he panics, allowing Tsumuri to kill him, but now no one is in shape for Burter, who proceeds to whip everyone, until Goku appears.

12) Ginyu doesn’t have a soul switching technique. But he is stronger than Goku when uses his currently highest level of Kaioken (Was it ten or twenty?) Goku has his work cut out for him. Tsumuri tells Krillin and Gohan to get their wishes done, while he holds off Jeice

13) Goku finally kills Ginyu, taking advantage of his ability to not sense energy, and having destroyed the scouter in the fight, but is severely wounded. Jeice freaks out and escapes and heads to find Freeza at his ship, running smack dab into Vegeta, who easily kills him. Tsumuri takes Goku to Freeza’s ship where Goku is put in a pod. Tsumuri is too heavily injured from Jeice to be much use. When Dende gets to the ship, he heals Tsumuri. Gohan decides that since Goku is currently being healed, it’s okay to let him do that in the pod while they start wishing on the Dragonballs. Tsumuri hears Guru in his head to go to Nail

14) Only one wish is made; bring Kami back to life. Before any other wish was to be considered, Vegeta woke up and was demanding immortality. Guru dies before Tsumuri reaches Nail, but he feels his withering power level

15) Freeza has only 2 forms, his current and the fourth form we know from canon. However Vegeta is nowhere near 530,000. His Zenkai after almost being killed by Recoome brought him to equal Goku’s max Power at that time, which still couldn’t defeat Ginyu without clever trickery. Freeza pretty much handles Vegeta, Krillin, and Gohan. It’s Tsumuri, fused with Nail that saves the day, but it’s then that Freeza does as Vegeta suggested earlier and transform. He makes mincemeat of Tsumuri, and prevents Vegeta’s escape, which tells Krillin, Gohan and Dende Freeza won’t let them escape.

16) Vegeta when revived with another Zenkai does match Freeza. But Freeza states he’s only using 10% and goes to 50%. Like with Ginyu, Goku is outmatched, but uses Freeza’s inability to sense ki to keep ahead, but even that barely keeps him ahead.

17) At 100% Freeza however has SSJ Goku on the ropes but Freeza's body starts giving out, allowing Goku to wallop Freeza at the end. He decides to spare Freeza so he'll come back after training his Final form to a level to sustain a fight. But like in canon Freeza brings in the Death Slicers.

18) Everyone including the Namekians Vegeta killed are brought back. Due to the two wish issue, things take longer but eventually everything works out for everyone with both sets of dragonballs. Because of Vegeta, and Tsumuri's and Nail's combined prejudice, the day before the Namekians use the dragonballs one last time, Tsumuri goes to Piccolo and negotiates another fusion, so if Vegeta ever goes rogue, Piccolo can destroy him. The fusion gives Piccolo a newfound level of peace, and even more powerful kinship towards Gohan, Bulma, and Krillin, seeing their bravery through Nail and Tsumuri's eyes. Of course Krillin and Gohan welcome this new Piccolo. Bulma is sad that Tsumuri is gone and is a bit afraid of Piccolo, but she'll try and be more friendly to Piccolo.

Reasons and Commentary here:
[spoiler]-Nail and Bulma were worthless. To fix it, reduce Freeza's Dragonballs amount so Bulma can get a ball, and to deal with the Nail problem, add another Namekian warrior as a stand in for Piccolo, and give Bulma someone to bond with, like Gohan and Krillin did with Dende

-Fighting wise, Krillin was worthless. The Potential Unlock brings him to a level that his martial arts training and tactics will allow him to keep up with Vegeta and their enemies

-Ginyu Force Battles is the same as the Saiyan Battles? Allow heavy casualties to happen to the Ginyu Force, but due to higher strengths and more opponents, the Z team would still struggle and slowly succumb to the Ginyu Force, but then Goku appears.

-There's really nothing that can be done to fix Goku. Namek isn't his story, he has no connection to Namek, but we need Goku. I figured to subvert things that at least aside from Burter, every fight he has will be a fight for his life. Instead of the body switch crap, Ginyu in a straight fight will kill Goku. Even at Super Saiyan, if Freeza was the type to train at 100%, Goku would have lost. This shows Goku is not infallible; and may push the story in a more suspenseful path, that Goku has problems sealing the deal. Would be compounded by him not being able to defeat Cell. By the time Goku fights Buu, everyone will be so surprised he was able to finally get a win.

-Piccolo was the load, and Namek wasn't his story. doesn't go to Namek, Tsumuri fills in for Piccolo and Nail,

-Freeza had 6 B.S. Saves; 3 Forms, 2 power upgrades, breathe in space. Keep the suspense by making sure Vegeta can't get to 530,000. It took Tsumuri and Nail cheating to force Freeza to his second form (which is canon fourth) Freeza wallops Tsumuri Then Freeza at 50% wallops Vegeta and Goku can only keep up because of his fight with Ginyu. And at 100% Freeza for awhile has Goku dead to rights, and then breathe in space. Now Freeza has only 4 B.S. Saves, and it's far less padding than in canon, and more suspenseful

-and because we can't have three Namekians pn Earth and one so much more developed than Gohan's favorite, Tsumuri will be the bigger Namekian and give up his body to keep Bulma and her friends safe from Vegeta (Piccolo isn't going to be happy about Bulma and Vegeta hooking up because Tsumuri, lol)[/spoiler]

Damn, you really went to town on it lol but I'm digging your ideas. It pretty much fixes all of the issues of the arc with the exception of Goku not really fitting in but I think making every battle of his a near death one does elviate the whole "he's the cool guy who shows up and stomps the bad guys" issue.

The only suggestion I'd make is omitting Tsumuri and just having Nail & Dende be the main Namekian partners for Krillin and Gohan. Maybe cutting down Goku's max KK too to X5 at best for Ginyu and 10 for Freeza?

[FoolsGil]

Damn, you really went to town on it lol but I'm digging your ideas. It pretty much fixes all of the issues of the arc with the exception of Goku not really fitting in but I think making every battle of his a near death one does elviate the whole "he's the cool guy who shows up and stomps the bad guys" issue.

The only suggestion I'd make is omitting Tsumuri and just having Nail & Dende be the main Namekian partners for Krillin and Gohan. Maybe cutting down Goku's max KK too to X5 at best for Ginyu and 10 for Freeza?

Well the thing with Nail is he's a late addition, and loyally devoted to Guru to the point that he refuses to engage anyone though he was the second strongest on Namek prior to the Ginyu Force. Plus with him being the second strongest, He following Gohan and Krillin, he'd end up being Green Goku, taking down anyone and everyone that he meets until Recoome. At least with Tsumuri you have that warrior who's strong, but not too strong, and listens to reason and helps the Z Fighters.

Yeah, I think a KK reduction works.

[Gog]

So, just to ask, have any of y'all made any significant progress on any of your fics recently?
I know I haven't.

You know, now that you've mentioned it I haven't exactly made any progress on my Fic at all... I'm just thinking of shelving the smaller one I was writing but then stopped writing... Sheesh.

[TheGodfather93]

Might try and get a bit of writing done this weekend. Had an absolutely horrific first day back at work for the new school term, to the point that I'm still upset and shaking over it, nine hours after the school day has already ended. Days like this make me wonder why I chose to be a teacher in the first place, and why I should even bother busting my ass trying to help ungrateful little brats who have no semblance of compassion or morality. Writing has always been a comforting activity for me, and really helped reduce the stress I was feeling back when I was busy with university. Hopefully it can do the same again.

[Kanassa]

Might try and get a bit of writing done this weekend. Had an absolutely horrific first day back at work for the new school term, to the point that I'm still upset and shaking over it, nine hours after the school day has already ended. Days like this make me wonder why I chose to be a teacher in the first place, and why I should even bother busting my ass trying to help ungrateful little brats who have no semblance of compassion or morality.

For the cool teacher mugs, man!

[Doctor.]

Here's a question: honorifics, how to deal with them? The best thing to do is to omit them, in my mind, as there is no need to mix Japanese and English any more than what is necessary. But in which case, how do you translate them to something more appropriate? Surely Bulma's "Son-kun" shouldn't be reduced to just "Son," which is what Piccolo and Tenshinhan use. And Chi-Chi's "Goku-sa" shouldn't be reduced to something as formal as Mr. Goku.

[Kaboom]

Here's a question: honorifics, how to deal with them? The best thing to do is to omit them, in my mind, as there is no need to mix Japanese and English any more than what is necessary.

I concur. For the most part, the honorifics are just a "Japanese thing" that English writers don't really need to bother with. I only adapt them into English on a cake-by-cake basis when they're actually something more than just a routine formality.

Like, I wouldn't have Chi-Chi call her own husband "Mistah Goku" or anything. But Piccolo would definitely refer to and address his godly superior as "Lord Kaioshin," and younger characters like Oob or Pan might use "Mister Vegeta" out of a mix of respect and mild intimidation. It's a context thing.

[Alruneia]

Here's a question: honorifics, how to deal with them?

It depends on the "nature" of your work. If you're trying to make it feel as Japanese as you can (for better or for worse), leave it completely unchanged (as in write Son-kun, Gokuu-sa and that stuff). Otherwise just drop them completely (as in write Goku) and use English honourifics where they fit ("Lord" and the like). Generally speaking, using Japanese honourifics in an English fan fiction can easily feel like you're trying too hard, so be careful.

[ekrolo2]

Here's a question: honorifics, how to deal with them?

It depends on the "nature" of your work. If you're trying to make it feel as Japanese as you can (for better or for worse), leave it completely unchanged (as in write Son-kun, Gokuu-sa and that stuff). Otherwise just drop them completely (as in write Goku) and use English honourifics where they fit ("Lord" and the like). Generally speaking, using Japanese honourifics in an English fan fiction can easily feel like you're trying too hard, so be careful.

This is why I never use them and cringe hard whenever some one does use them. English mother fucker, that's what you're primarily writing in so write it the honorifics in that language if you absolutely wanna use them!

[Doctor.]

The question was more-so in regards to how characters should address each-other in translation. There are very unique ways that characters address each-other (Chi-Chi's "Goku-sa" and Bulma's "Son-kun" as stated before) that can't be translated literally.

[Anime Kitten]

The question was more-so in regards to how characters should address each-other in translation. There are very unique ways that characters address each-other (Chi-Chi's "Goku-sa" and Bulma's "Son-kun" as stated before) that can't be translated literally.

I mean, I'd say you just have to sacrifice in some cases. You don't want to sound like you're trying too hard, as Alruneia said, and you'll avoid the potential awkwardness, but you do lose the uniqueness. Still, it's not too terrible a trade-off IMO.

[DanielSSJ]

I mean, I'd say you just have to sacrifice in some cases. You don't want to sound like you're trying too hard, as Alruneia said, and you'll avoid the potential awkwardness, but you do lose the uniqueness. Still, it's not too terrible a trade-off IMO.

With the Bulma example, I suppose you could at least have her refer to Goku by his family name, if nothing else.

[Doctor.]

Thinking of re-writing Super, but the Tournament of Power set-up may be a bit of a hassle. I'm all for challenge, but it's probably better if I change the way the set-up and maybe reduce the number of challengers.

[Kanassa]

When is a villain too competent? And how much of a silliness factor should they be allowed in a story that's still attempting to be serious in ways?

[Doctor.]

When is a villain too competent?

When you can't think of a way to defeat him without some kind of asspull. Of course that can also be the mark of the villain being too overpowered (but normally overpowered villains and competence go hand-in-hand) or the heroes being stupid.

And how much of a silliness factor should they be allowed in a story that's still attempting to be serious in ways?

As long as the villain never gets humiliated.

[Kanassa]

And how much of a silliness factor should they be allowed in a story that's still attempting to be serious in ways?

As long as the villain never gets humiliated.

When I say stupid factor, I mean more in how silly they are as a character. Like, I have one villain who's centred around how ridiculous, flamboyant and seemingly convoluted he acts ("If you want I can tell you our whole plan through puppet show! I even made you all puppet versions of your corpses out your hair"), until that point in the story he reveals that he's a pretty big threat.

When you say humiliated, how would you define that?