Anime Kitten wrote:
Certainly! What specifics do you have in mind that seem as though they'd be difficult?
Well the massive differences in power between certain characters, the fact that we'd need one person to write it up, or possibly more? The fact that it could spoil the ending to our Fan Fictions. And people would need to agree to this of course.
You want a tournament between all our fanfics?! Good lord. Well, it's definitely an idea. Power difference is such a major problem that I don't think it's possible to incorporate all works. Take mine for instance. My most powerful characters are almost definitely far too strong. Just as an example, I'll bring in Megami Shimi, who I've mentioned before. Shimi is about a 500 to Whis' 15 and Beerus' 10 (God Goku was not a 6). And while she's in the top ten strongest in all universes, she isn't in the top five. I think that's all the perspective I need to give you. With works, not necessarily mine, introducing power like that to a cross-fic tournament, most competitors wouldn't stand a chance, so it wouldn't be any fun.
Not necessarily want, a tournament would spoil our Fan Fictions endings and surprises(so if we where to do one, it would have to be after we finish the Fics). It's more of an idea than that, however an idea for how you could possibly incorporate some of the weaker fighters would be to pit them against fighters of the same tier. Before they get crushed by the higher tier fighters. But they could still be useful to the plot, even after their humiliating defeats. So it is possible, it just would be challenging making them important to the plot, and staying important as well.
Also is Megami Shimi as strong as the Omni King?
Kanassa wrote:
Alruneia wrote:
You want a tournament between all our fanfics?! Good lord. Well, it's definitely an idea. Power difference is such a major problem that I don't think it's possible to incorporate all works. Take mine for instance. My most powerful characters are almost definitely far too strong. Just as an example, I'll bring in Megami Shimi, who I've mentioned before. Shimi is about a 500 to Whis' 15 and Beerus' 10 (God Goku was not a 6). And while she's in the top ten strongest in all universes, she isn't in the top five. I think that's all the perspective I need to give you. With works, not necessarily mine, introducing power like that to a cross-fic tournament, most competitors wouldn't stand a chance, so it wouldn't be any fun.
My Villain, Rushifa, would be weird to incorporate. Because, if this is working like Multiverse where it's simply a different timeline with each fighter, he has the overwhelming advantage of watching and studying his most likely opponents for centuries...
Actually, he could actually work in the tournament, he would just be the Tournament's version of Hit for it.
Gog wrote:
Actually, he could actually work in the tournament, he would just be the Tournament's version of Hit for it.
Rushifa: I can't skip time, but I can repeat your techniques... As well as tell everyone all the embarrassing things I witnessed you do in your timeline. Especially you, Steve. My god.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
Spoiler:
HeroR wrote:The characters in Super can work with Goku and they're treated like equals to him. Goku just being in the room doesn't take away from the character. In Z, the characters were so depended on Goku that they couldn't go an episode without mentioning him in some way even by hoping he will arrived, get better, training to get stronger, our last hope, being like him, ect. Goku was wanked to hell in Z, even when he wasn't in the room and everyone else was secondary to him. In fact, this was a major issue Goku had, which is why he didn't want to do anything in the Buu Saga.
Kanassa wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
Gog wrote:Also is Megami Shimi as strong as the Omni King?
Nowhere near him. He's probably 10,000 on that scale, being a casual everything buster and all. I won't get into the numbers, though.
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Gog wrote:Also is Megami Shimi as strong as the Omni King?
Nowhere near him. He's probably 10,000 on that scale, being a casual everything buster and all. I won't get into the numbers, though.
So, I still keep the title for having the most broken O.C.
How broken is your O.C?
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
Spoiler:
HeroR wrote:The characters in Super can work with Goku and they're treated like equals to him. Goku just being in the room doesn't take away from the character. In Z, the characters were so depended on Goku that they couldn't go an episode without mentioning him in some way even by hoping he will arrived, get better, training to get stronger, our last hope, being like him, ect. Goku was wanked to hell in Z, even when he wasn't in the room and everyone else was secondary to him. In fact, this was a major issue Goku had, which is why he didn't want to do anything in the Buu Saga.
Kanassa wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
Give a general overview of the villain of your story, if you have one.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
Spoiler:
HeroR wrote:The characters in Super can work with Goku and they're treated like equals to him. Goku just being in the room doesn't take away from the character. In Z, the characters were so depended on Goku that they couldn't go an episode without mentioning him in some way even by hoping he will arrived, get better, training to get stronger, our last hope, being like him, ect. Goku was wanked to hell in Z, even when he wasn't in the room and everyone else was secondary to him. In fact, this was a major issue Goku had, which is why he didn't want to do anything in the Buu Saga.
Kanassa wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
Kanassa wrote:Give a general overview of the villain of your story, if you have one.
There's going to be two(four?) Main villains, the first one will be Baby(heavily edited version), the next villain will be Black Goku and Zamasu, and the finial villain will be Merged Zamasu.
Kanassa wrote:Give a general overview of the villain of your story, if you have one.
These are based on my rewrite I (barely) have in the works, so they may be different from what's already released. Beware of (potentially major) spoilers in the tagged ones. Dr. Gero - A scientist in hiding for two decades. Seeks the ultimate power and will not hesitate to annihilate those in his way. Cell Army - Gero's creations. An "endless" swarm of human insects. They sure seem immortal, but...
[spoiler]Perfect Cell - Gero's greatest creation in search of the greatest opponent.[/spoiler] Time Breakers - A small group that, on the surface, appear to want to destroy history, but there may be another goal beyond that.
[spoiler]Another villain that would be too spoiler-y to mention - spoilers![/spoiler]
And beyond that, the others are too rough. Though I should probably mention that I ma~ay or ma~ay not focus on a Freeza Race member in the future.
Kanassa wrote:Give a general overview of the villain of your story, if you have one.
Okay, I looked through my stuff, and I've come to the conclusion that I have WAY too many villains across my seven arcs to properly put everyone into this post. So I'll just post the first ones.
Spoiler:
This is the Otherverse Tournament, held by Zen'ou after seeing Champa and Beerus holding their tournament ~4.5 years prior. Are there any villains in the tournament? Perhaps not, but the "Ultimate Kai", the fusion between every single Kai in Universe 12, catches Universe 7's attention. The Ultimate Kai (超界王神, lit. Super Supreme Kai): A fusion of all living Kais, Supreme or not, in Universe 12. The chain of fusions ended with the Ultimate Kai being as tall as an angel, feminine (goes by she) and incredibly strong, even surpassing her God of Destruction. The motivation for the fusion comes from an unnamed threat to her universe several millions of years ago. The Ultimate Kai has a very hands-on approach to being a God(dess) of Creation and doesn't spend a lot of her time in the Sacred World of the Kais in Universe 12. Unlike most competitors in the tournament, she relies on pure power instead of transformations or strange techniques.
Meanwhile, on Earth, the few fighters who remained have to battle the opportunistic Gerida, an alien who wishes to to revive Frieza's empire with him as the leader. Gerida (ゲリダ, from gelid): An extremely confident alien who dreams of becoming emperor of the universe. In the days when Frieza was alive, Gerida had no chance of doing such a thing, but after learning of Frieza's demise and studying Earth and its warriors, he has seen his chance to attack Earth and "rig" it to neutralise the rest of his potential obstacles. (While his name does match Frieza's race's cold name puns, he's not part of it.)
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When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
Spoiler:
HeroR wrote:The characters in Super can work with Goku and they're treated like equals to him. Goku just being in the room doesn't take away from the character. In Z, the characters were so depended on Goku that they couldn't go an episode without mentioning him in some way even by hoping he will arrived, get better, training to get stronger, our last hope, being like him, ect. Goku was wanked to hell in Z, even when he wasn't in the room and everyone else was secondary to him. In fact, this was a major issue Goku had, which is why he didn't want to do anything in the Buu Saga.
Kanassa wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
Gog wrote:
Can kick the Omni King's shit in broken.
Jesus, who is this O.C?
Bra from Multiverse?
I somehow doubt that Gog is actually Salagir in disguise.
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I somehow doubt that Gog is actually Salagir in disguise.
And that's why t's such an ingenious disguise!
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
Spoiler:
HeroR wrote:The characters in Super can work with Goku and they're treated like equals to him. Goku just being in the room doesn't take away from the character. In Z, the characters were so depended on Goku that they couldn't go an episode without mentioning him in some way even by hoping he will arrived, get better, training to get stronger, our last hope, being like him, ect. Goku was wanked to hell in Z, even when he wasn't in the room and everyone else was secondary to him. In fact, this was a major issue Goku had, which is why he didn't want to do anything in the Buu Saga.
Kanassa wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
I actually can't tell you that as it's too much of a spoiler but since my disguise has been busted by Kanassa all I can say that it's not Bra. However the only information I can diverge about him is that he's still not the strongest.
I could use a hand for the ending of a one-shot I'm almost done with
[spoiler]The gist of it is that Black is ambushed by what he perceives is a generic human attack on him. Resistance fighters fire on him with useless bullets, rockets and then run away when it inevitably fails with Trunks jumping in and saying he intends to end it all this time. Black and him fight but Black starts to get horrible pains in his chest and after a lengthy fight, this pain along with some other surprises Trunks has in store for him, brings Black down.
The trouble is the final conversation between Trunks and Black, this is the part where it's revealed that Trunks got a sample of Black's DNA and discovered it was really Goku, Bulma decided to use this to their advantage and weaponized the heart virus to infect him via the smoke bombs the retreating resistence fighters threw around Black to mask their escape.
How to have this conversation go is where I'm hitting the snag, Black would obviously be pissed off because Goku's body and the fact he didn't ask for immortality screwed him over but I'm not sure what angle to take with Trunks. I don't want a generic speech where he calls humans worthwhile of living and I'd like to address the fact he knows he's kind of killing Goku by poisoning him with the same disease that fucked his timeline in the first place.[/spoiler]
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
Spoiler:
Absolute Zamasu(my name for their fusion) wins. He fulfils his utopia and dwells in his loneliness(x amount of time for this to happen). He starts to doubt of his achievements, Goku's body influences him to seek out challenges but there's nothing. Perfection becomes a curse. Absolute Zamasu starts to dread his existence and presents himself to the Omni-King, detailing on his actions.
Using his powers the Omni-King restores everything to the moment before Goku and Vegeta perish, humanity's last barrier. Zamasu concedes. He ask for forgiveness(mainly to Goku, Gowasu and Trunks) and understands that his justice isn't justice at all. He asks for judgement and the Omni-King delivers.
Trunks is forced never to travel in time ever again, all the time-machines are destroyed.
ekrolo2 wrote:I could use a hand for the ending of a one-shot I'm almost done with
[spoiler]The gist of it is that Black is ambushed by what he perceives is a generic human attack on him. Resistance fighters fire on him with useless bullets, rockets and then run away when it inevitably fails with Trunks jumping in and saying he intends to end it all this time. Black and him fight but Black starts to get horrible pains in his chest and after a lengthy fight, this pain along with some other surprises Trunks has in store for him, brings Black down.
The trouble is the final conversation between Trunks and Black, this is the part where it's revealed that Trunks got a sample of Black's DNA and discovered it was really Goku, Bulma decided to use this to their advantage and weaponized the heart virus to infect him via the smoke bombs the retreating resistence fighters threw around Black to mask their escape.
How to have this conversation go is where I'm hitting the snag, Black would obviously be pissed off because Goku's body and the fact he didn't ask for immortality screwed him over but I'm not sure what angle to take with Trunks. I don't want a generic speech where he calls humans worthwhile of living and I'd like to address the fact he knows he's kind of killing Goku by poisoning him with the same disease that fucked his timeline in the first place.[/spoiler]
Perhaps he tells him that he shouldn't have underestimated mortals? Maybe that if he had used the body properly and hadn't underestimated mortals than he would have survived. And Trunks also tells him that he regrets that he has kill Goku again.
ekrolo2 wrote:I could use a hand for the ending of a one-shot I'm almost done with
[spoiler]The gist of it is that Black is ambushed by what he perceives is a generic human attack on him. Resistance fighters fire on him with useless bullets, rockets and then run away when it inevitably fails with Trunks jumping in and saying he intends to end it all this time. Black and him fight but Black starts to get horrible pains in his chest and after a lengthy fight, this pain along with some other surprises Trunks has in store for him, brings Black down.
The trouble is the final conversation between Trunks and Black, this is the part where it's revealed that Trunks got a sample of Black's DNA and discovered it was really Goku, Bulma decided to use this to their advantage and weaponized the heart virus to infect him via the smoke bombs the retreating resistence fighters threw around Black to mask their escape.
How to have this conversation go is where I'm hitting the snag, Black would obviously be pissed off because Goku's body and the fact he didn't ask for immortality screwed him over but I'm not sure what angle to take with Trunks. I don't want a generic speech where he calls humans worthwhile of living and I'd like to address the fact he knows he's kind of killing Goku by poisoning him with the same disease that fucked his timeline in the first place.[/spoiler]
Perhaps he tells him that he shouldn't have underestimated mortals? Maybe that if he had used the body properly and hadn't underestimated mortals than he would have survived. And Trunks also tells him that he regrets that he has kill Goku again.
I definitely want to have Trunks know he's kind of killing Goku, even though he doesn't know it's just his body with a completely new mind. I just can't seem to make that last conversation feel natural without it seeming like a massive, last second infodump.
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
Spoiler:
Absolute Zamasu(my name for their fusion) wins. He fulfils his utopia and dwells in his loneliness(x amount of time for this to happen). He starts to doubt of his achievements, Goku's body influences him to seek out challenges but there's nothing. Perfection becomes a curse. Absolute Zamasu starts to dread his existence and presents himself to the Omni-King, detailing on his actions.
Using his powers the Omni-King restores everything to the moment before Goku and Vegeta perish, humanity's last barrier. Zamasu concedes. He ask for forgiveness(mainly to Goku, Gowasu and Trunks) and understands that his justice isn't justice at all. He asks for judgement and the Omni-King delivers.
Trunks is forced never to travel in time ever again, all the time-machines are destroyed.
ekrolo2 wrote:I could use a hand for the ending of a one-shot I'm almost done with
[spoiler]The gist of it is that Black is ambushed by what he perceives is a generic human attack on him. Resistance fighters fire on him with useless bullets, rockets and then run away when it inevitably fails with Trunks jumping in and saying he intends to end it all this time. Black and him fight but Black starts to get horrible pains in his chest and after a lengthy fight, this pain along with some other surprises Trunks has in store for him, brings Black down.
The trouble is the final conversation between Trunks and Black, this is the part where it's revealed that Trunks got a sample of Black's DNA and discovered it was really Goku, Bulma decided to use this to their advantage and weaponized the heart virus to infect him via the smoke bombs the retreating resistence fighters threw around Black to mask their escape.
How to have this conversation go is where I'm hitting the snag, Black would obviously be pissed off because Goku's body and the fact he didn't ask for immortality screwed him over but I'm not sure what angle to take with Trunks. I don't want a generic speech where he calls humans worthwhile of living and I'd like to address the fact he knows he's kind of killing Goku by poisoning him with the same disease that fucked his timeline in the first place.[/spoiler]
Maybe have Trunks poke fun at the fact that such a mighty God fell to the an equivalent of the common cold. And also I wouldn't have Trunks being regretful for having to 'kill Goku again', I think he'd be more in the attitude of "Your biology doesn't matter, you'll never be Goku. Just a pathetic, lifeless imitation".
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
Spoiler:
HeroR wrote:The characters in Super can work with Goku and they're treated like equals to him. Goku just being in the room doesn't take away from the character. In Z, the characters were so depended on Goku that they couldn't go an episode without mentioning him in some way even by hoping he will arrived, get better, training to get stronger, our last hope, being like him, ect. Goku was wanked to hell in Z, even when he wasn't in the room and everyone else was secondary to him. In fact, this was a major issue Goku had, which is why he didn't want to do anything in the Buu Saga.
Kanassa wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
ekrolo2 wrote:I could use a hand for the ending of a one-shot I'm almost done with
[spoiler]The gist of it is that Black is ambushed by what he perceives is a generic human attack on him. Resistance fighters fire on him with useless bullets, rockets and then run away when it inevitably fails with Trunks jumping in and saying he intends to end it all this time. Black and him fight but Black starts to get horrible pains in his chest and after a lengthy fight, this pain along with some other surprises Trunks has in store for him, brings Black down.
The trouble is the final conversation between Trunks and Black, this is the part where it's revealed that Trunks got a sample of Black's DNA and discovered it was really Goku, Bulma decided to use this to their advantage and weaponized the heart virus to infect him via the smoke bombs the retreating resistence fighters threw around Black to mask their escape.
How to have this conversation go is where I'm hitting the snag, Black would obviously be pissed off because Goku's body and the fact he didn't ask for immortality screwed him over but I'm not sure what angle to take with Trunks. I don't want a generic speech where he calls humans worthwhile of living and I'd like to address the fact he knows he's kind of killing Goku by poisoning him with the same disease that fucked his timeline in the first place.[/spoiler]
Perhaps he tells him that he shouldn't have underestimated mortals? Maybe that if he had used the body properly and hadn't underestimated mortals than he would have survived. And Trunks also tells him that he regrets that he has kill Goku again.
I definitely want to have Trunks know he's kind of killing Goku, even though he doesn't know it's just his body with a completely new mind. I just can't seem to make that last conversation feel natural without it seeming like a massive, last second infodump.
Perhaps Goku Black's dying thoughts are Gowasu's face and him muttering Zamasu? Perhaps have Trunks go "I'm sorry Goku, I'm so sorry that you had to die a second time, but you caused too much pain... Too much death... I'm sorry that it had to end like this" don't have Trunks mention anything about mortals or junk.
