Death Battle: Android 18 Vs. Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers)

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Re: Death Battle: Android 18 Vs. Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers)

Post by cheddarsword » Sun May 28, 2017 12:36 am

FoolsGil wrote:
Super Sonic wrote:
FoolsGil wrote: So Captain Marvel is going to win this. Imho, with a Wonder Woman movie coming out and Captain Marvel on the MCU queue, they should be duking it out. I don't really watch much anime, but there should be someone else Eighteen could fight who's cybernetic right?
They already had Wonder Woman in one, against Rogue. Wonder Woman lost.
Batman got two fights.
Indeed he did:

Batman Vs. Captain America. Winner: Batman.
Batman Vs. Spiderman. Winnder: Spiderman

And there's more too:

Shadow the Hedgehog Vs. Vegeta. Winner: Vegeta
Shadow the Hedgehog Vs. Mewtwo: Winner: Mewtwo

TMNT Free For All. Winner: Leonardo
Leonardo Vs. Zitz. Winner: Leonardo

You could argue that the two versions of Samus Vs. Boba Fett could count too but aside from the fights being done differently, the end result was the same. Winner: Samus

And I forgot about Kirby completely forgetting his abilities upon ditching them! When he did that "Over the Sun" toss, he had the Chef ability!

One could argue "What about Super Smash Bros? He has them there!" but no! and there's two good reasons too! 1: It was fixed in universe! In Amazing Mirror, you could copy Master Hand and gain his smash abilities for a limited time! 2: SMASH ISN'T CANON! Seriously, Mario can't just throw flames whenever he wants, Samus has a limited supply of missiles, Link has a limited number of arrows and the list goes on!

All this being said, I feel like Death Battle really just can't be taken seriously enough. There have been fan debates far too often.

Also, I'm going to do my own Death Battle, right here, right now.

Superman Vs. Beerus.

Ad: GIV US UR MONEYZ!

Wiz: "Science!"

Boomstick: "Bullshit and sexual innuendo!"

Announcer: "Fight!"

Beerus: "Hakai!"

Announcer: "K.O.!"

Wiz: "Reasons!"

Boomstick: "LULZ!"

Superman Fanbase: "BULLSHIT! BEERUS TOO WEAK!"

Dragon Ball Fanbase: "STFU WE DID THE WORLD A FAVOR!"

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Re: Death Battle: Android 18 Vs. Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers)

Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Wed May 31, 2017 4:22 pm

Dragon Ball was always a kid series and fans should stop being in denial.

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Re: Death Battle: Android 18 Vs. Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers)

Post by cheddarsword » Wed May 31, 2017 4:50 pm

Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:Android 18 preview video.

2 weeks to go.
Thanks! First post has now been updated with link to video!

Edit: Just watched the video. I like the fact that they're bringing her actual fighting skill into this and not just her power since as we all know, be it in life, Dragon Ball or Death Battle, power alone isn't everything.

Let's be honest here. She was customized to kill GOKU of all people. A guy who's fighting knowledge was incredible even before going to Namek! And fighting knowledge alone has indeed overcome the odds in previous Death Battles. Batman V. Captain America and Epyon V. Tigerzord come to mind.

Also interesting is that they're using footage from Super as reference material. Recent footage too.

On a side note, seems that Carol's preview video airs next week.

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Re: Death Battle: Android 18 Vs. Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers)

Post by Super Sonic » Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:55 pm

18 will still have a fight on her hands as this clip shows. I assume most folks have heard the phrase, "Nothing moves the Blob." She just did.

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Re: Death Battle: Android 18 Vs. Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers)

Post by dario03 » Fri Jun 02, 2017 3:18 pm

Super Sonic wrote:18 will still have a fight on her hands as this clip shows. I assume most folks have heard the phrase, "Nothing moves the Blob." She just did.
K.... But can she move The Juggernaut back while he is moving forward?

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Re: Death Battle: Android 18 Vs. Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers)

Post by cheddarsword » Fri Jun 02, 2017 11:13 pm

Thought I'd post this. It's more about Dragon Ball as a whole, but they do talk about 18 somewhat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOi-qrFQAfo

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Re: Death Battle: Android 18 Vs. Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers)

Post by cheddarsword » Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:16 pm

Updated first post to include link to Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers) Preview Video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LARKTcczTms

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Re: Death Battle: Android 18 Vs. Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers)

Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:16 pm

Android 18 has no chances, gg. See you next week for the rolfstomp :( .
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Re: Death Battle: Android 18 Vs. Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers)

Post by ekrolo2 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:54 pm

Can Carol casually blow up a planet? If not, she's fucked.
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Re: Death Battle: Android 18 Vs. Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers)

Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:58 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:Can Carol casually blow up a planet? If not, she's fucked.
I also question, has #18 shown feats like this before?
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Re: Death Battle: Android 18 Vs. Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers)

Post by ekrolo2 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:02 pm

Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:Can Carol casually blow up a planet? If not, she's fucked.
I also question, has #18 shown feats like this before?
I mean, if Vegeta can blow it up at 18k and Freeza can in all of his forms on Namek, both of whom are vastly weaker than #18, it stands to reason she can do it too.
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Re: Death Battle: Android 18 Vs. Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers)

Post by cheddarsword » Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:54 am

Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:Can Carol casually blow up a planet? If not, she's fucked.
I also question, has #18 shown feats like this before?
Vegeta could blow up planets during the Saiyan Saga at a power level of 18,000. That's without Oozaru form.

We all know he's far stronger without Super Saiyan during the Android Saga and yet he is indeed in Super Saiyan form when Android 18 breaks his arm.

Also, It's worth noting that Android 19 could absorb energy just like Carol, and Vegeta straight up killed him. Granted, it was with a Ki Blast, which likely won't work on Carol, but even so, Vegeta ripped his arm off.

Here's a rundown of her greatest feats:

https://plus.google.com/+Boomtube101/posts/gE8y4Aq8xoa

Notice that it takes her Binary form to reach planet buster status. 18 has that on tap.

The problem I would foresee is her durability. That statement about tanking hits from Wonderman without a scratch has me concerned. Why? Well:
Strength Level: Wonder Man possesses superhuman strength enabling him to lift (press) 95 tons under optimal conditions.
Source of quote: http://www.marveldirectory.com/individu ... derman.htm

Is there any way to figure out SS Vegeta's strength in comparison to this? If need be, you could probably use Namek Saga SS Goku as a reference point, but I think Android Saga SS Vegeta is actually stronger.

Of course, I know punch strength is different from one's ability to bench press, but if 18 can't pass 95 tons, she's not gonna do shit.

...hmmm... I'm gonna go watch Goku Vs. Superman. I think there's something in the (fucked up) gravity formula that may just work here.

EDIT: Okay, forget the Goku Vs. Superman Video. It uses Buu Saga Goku, so that's out. BUT! I DID find something!

Goku's official weight is 62 Kg or 137 Lbs.

Multiply that by 100 due to gravity room training and you have 6.2 tons. Not a lot, right? Oh but I'm not done.

Super Saiyan is 50 times stronger than base. so we're talking 310 tons!

And that's just Goku at 100 X Gravity! Let's amp it up to Android Saga Vegeta, who trained at 300 X gravity!

Vegeta's about the same as Goku at 60 Kg or 135 Lbs which becomes 18 tons with 300 X gravity.

And here's the fun number. 18 tons X 50 = 900 TONS!

I think it's safe to assume that Vegeta became accustomed to 300 relatively quickly as Goku managed to function normally at 100 easily.

And Android 18 is far stronger than this, able to embed SS Vegeta who can comfortably resist at least 900 TONS OF FORCE, into a mountain side.

Carol... I can hear your tombstone being chiseled.

Oh yes. By the way. I was using Metric Tons. If you convert that to US Tons, which Marvel likely uses, then the actual number becomes 992.08 Tons.

CAN superheroes shit bricks?

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Re: Death Battle: Android 18 Vs. Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers)

Post by Bullza » Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:15 am

You know what's going to happen. They'll fight for a bit hand to hand, then #18 because she has infinite energy will blast away non stop at Ms Marvel who will look like she's on the verge of defeat and then she'll bust out with this Binary form and beat #18.

Even though #18 isn't a retard, is familiar with the concept of characters being able to absorb energy to get stronger because that's what her fellow androids could do and other DBZ characters like Piccolo have the common sense to know to not pump energy into beings that can absorb energy....that's what #18 will do anyway.

According to her Wikipedia page Ms Marvel can fly 6 times the speed of sound. Not even remotely comparable to the speed Goku flew down Snake Way. So #18 should be able to fly circles round her.

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Re: Death Battle: Android 18 Vs. Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers)

Post by Soppa Saia People » Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:32 am

Carol Danvers is the one with the one piece with the lighting bolt and red sash, right ?
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Re: Death Battle: Android 18 Vs. Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers)

Post by cheddarsword » Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:22 pm

It'll likely come down to punching power really. Carol's greatest feat is tanking 92 ton blows without a scratch. Seriously doubt she can withstand 10 or 11 times as much though.

Still, I have this odd feeling that Carol's still going to win.

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Re: Death Battle: Android 18 Vs. Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers)

Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:49 am

[spoiler]Apparently 18 won, if the website page and comments are to be believed.[/spoiler]
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!

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Re: Death Battle: Android 18 Vs. Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers)

Post by cheddarsword » Tue Jun 13, 2017 12:25 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:[spoiler]Apparently 18 won, if the website page and comments are to be believed.[/spoiler]
I can confirm this. I've got VRV which apparently gives me access to Rooster Teeth videos early. Just watched the end of the fight (skipped to it for confirmation sake).

Once the video hits Youtube, I'll put the link up in the first post.

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Re: Death Battle: Android 18 Vs. Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers)

Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:18 pm

Death Battle video is up:
https://youtu.be/wcNvMW4s9a8
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Re: Death Battle: Android 18 Vs. Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers)

Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:09 pm

Hmm.

A little shocked that Android 18 won.

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Re: Death Battle: Android 18 Vs. Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers)

Post by Doctor. » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:20 pm

Did they just make #18 absorb energy? Well, they fucked up.

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