Fionordequester wrote:
That means you're technically defending him, yes; regardless of whether or not you mean it.
Like I said, you are just making the issue about the subject (DBM) instead of what I'm actually opposing (
exaggerated and unfair criticism and bashing).
And I can literally make an example of how erroneous that implication is regarding pretty much every issue:
- Someone says a certain book is a "pile of garbage, the worst ever". If someone dares to point out that that criticism is clearly exaggerated and is bashing, then he's technically defending the book or an apologist for the book, and not just someone opposing the exaggerated criticism. In short, instead of the issue being strictly about the criticism and being for or against it, now it becomes also an issue of the "defending" of being an "apologist" for the book.
- Someone addresses a person on the street in a rude way. If someone dares to point out that it was rude, then he's technically defending the person or an apologist for the person, and not just someone opposing the rudeness. In short, instead of the issue being strictly about the rudeness and being for or against it, now it becomes also an issue of the "defending" of being an "apologist" for the person.
- Someone attacks a woman who had an abortion because of it. If someone dares to point out that he shouldn't attack the woman, then he's technically defending the person and her abortion or an apologist for the person and the abortion, and not just someone opposing the attack. In short, instead of the issue being strictly about the attack and being for or against it, now it becomes also an issue of the "defending" of being an "apologist" for the person and the abortion.
Those terms carry implication and make the issue about things that shouldn't be the issue.
Fionordequester wrote:And unlike the Death Penalty, webcomics aren't something that people generally get really passionate about unless they have strong feelings for it's quality.
If they think it stinks, the troublemakers will roar about how awful it is. And if someone who REALLY likes the webcomic hears such criticisms, and they're not afraid of making themselves heard, their behavior will generally look a lot like what you've been doing for...years, I think? Months? Forgot how long you've been here.
Anyway, the sort of person who doesn't care about the comic enough to want to defend it...isn't typically the kind of person that would respond to every single bit of criticism anyone has ever posted in this thread.
Honestly, what you said is just a pile of assumptions. The issue here is that I don't really like exaggerated criticism, unfairness and bashing and I will speak out against it. The fact that I speak often about it here is because I usually check the topic when I visit the forum and because, unfortunately, exaggerated criticism and bashing pop up very often in this topic. Nothing more, nothing else. Just like in the examples I gave, it's not about the subjects, it's about what I'm trying to oppose. You are free to assume whatever you like beyond that but you will just be off the mark like you were with all those assumptions.
Fionordequester wrote:Not saying that you're lying, mind you; I'm saying that your behavior is highly unusual for someone who claims to not be defending the comic. Therefore; people are bound to get the wrong idea.
Not my problem at all. I've explained my thoughts more than once and I've explained in detail the sort of implications that terms like "defend" and "apologist" carry, how they muddle the issues, and how they are off the mark. I can't control what other think or want to think.
testing223 wrote:
Nail was the best of the best of the Nameks; don't discount his ability to learn really fast. It wouldn't be out of character or break canon for Nail to figure out Ginyu's technique on the fly. I mean, the guy was the guardian of the leader of the Namekian people; he's gotta be pretty smart and strong.
Nowhere in the manga was it demonstrated that Nail had an extraordinary ability to learn and copy techniques. However, it was demonstrated in the manga that Goku had a had an extraordinary ability to learn and copy techniques and he didn't replicate Ginyu's technique in the manga.
To me, Nail being able to mimic Ginyu's technique would be out of nowhere and I don't like the notion.