Fanmanga - DB Multiverse
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse
There were a lot of unnecesary steps in order to reach this conclusion. Would have totally not done the "Ginyu in Nail's body" at all.
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It seems unnecessary unless Nail is going to get out of this somehow and is able to be relevent in beating Ginyu in the tournamentverse.Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:There were a lot of unnecesary steps in order to reach this conclusion. Would have totally not done the "Ginyu in Nail's body" at all.
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Once again, I don't understand this logic. It's not about the conclusion, it's about the a fight/situation being interesting and/or entertaining. Nail and Ginyu swapping bodies, even if it amounts to nothing, is simply more interesting and/or entertaining than Ginyu just crushing Nail with his superior power.
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What was the point of Ginyu switching bodies with Nail if it wasn't to explain how he escaped getting killed by Freeza? I can't see this as anything other than a wasted opportunity. It really looked like the special was going in a smart direction too.
What was the point of Ginyu switching bodies with Nail if it wasn't to explain how he escaped getting killed by Freeza? I can't see this as anything other than a wasted opportunity. It really looked like the special was going in a smart direction too.
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Augenis wrote:The power level view into the series has trained a significant portion of the fan base into real life stereotypical members of the Freeza empire, where each and every individual is reduced to a floating number above their heads and any sudden changes to said number are met with shock and confusion.
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"Your bluff isn't taking." Bravo, translators.coola wrote:
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Dang, looks like Burter had the right idea.
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Good thing Burter didn't say that out loud Seriously, what is wrong with Freeza here? I get it he was pissed for getting humilated in front of his people, but he beat Goku, so why he is still so pissed?
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Well, I'm not sure how this special could go on any longer, besides showing off how Ginyu changed. But, even then...
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Because he loves his beautiful capital city.coola wrote:Good thing Burter didn't say that out loud Seriously, what is wrong with Freeza here? I get it he was pissed for getting humilated in front of his people, but he beat Goku, so why he is still so pissed?
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He's the one that destroyed it.Regarder wrote:Because he loves his beautiful capital city.coola wrote:Good thing Burter didn't say that out loud Seriously, what is wrong with Freeza here? I get it he was pissed for getting humilated in front of his people, but he beat Goku, so why he is still so pissed?
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... Making the fight more entertaining/interesting than Ginyu simply crushing Nail with his bigger power.ParkerAL wrote:...
What was the point of Ginyu switching bodies with Nail if it wasn't to explain how he escaped getting killed by Freeza?
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I'm with Ginyu on this one, but, why he never tried to kill Freeza and Coola after he stole Cold's body?
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Same arguments that were pro-Nail moving from body to body, eventually losing himself and becoming a villain, just apply to Ginyu.coola wrote:
I'm with Ginyu on this one, but, why he never tried to kill Freeza and Coola after he stole Cold's body?
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So, is this basically Ginyu's midlife crisis?
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It would also have been far more interesting if Ginyu had remained in Nail's body, seen Lord Freeza kill Nail pretending to be him, switched with a soldier who came to finish off the "Namek" and then decided to plot against his master for "killing" him. The fight would have been all the better by having an actual payoff.rereboy wrote:... Making the fight more entertaining/interesting than Ginyu simply crushing Nail with his bigger power.
The way Ginyu actually saves himself just feels lame and easy. It has no dramatic buildup. And why would Freeza even have the body dragged off to some space crematorium if any one of his lackeys can disintegrate it on the spot with an energy blast?
Overall, this special was fine. The art was good, the story okay. But it is a shame seeing how it could have been better.
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Augenis wrote:The power level view into the series has trained a significant portion of the fan base into real life stereotypical members of the Freeza empire, where each and every individual is reduced to a floating number above their heads and any sudden changes to said number are met with shock and confusion.
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The end goal is having Ginyu swap bodies until he gets Cold's body as it has already been established. While your scenario could be interesting, it doesn't fit what is already been established. And taking what is established in consideration, what has been shown is still more interesting/entertaining than having Nail just be crushed by Ginyu, which is why it's there, not because it's the setup for a different end goal.ParkerAL wrote:
It would also have been far more interesting if Ginyu had remained in Nail's body, seen Lord Freeza kill Nail pretending to be him, switched with a soldier who came to finish off the "Namek" and then decided to plot against his master for "killing" him. The fight would have been all the better by having an actual payoff.
Because he doesn't like seeing his capital in ruins, because he has a short temper, because he completely lacks empathy or care for others, and because he is completely frustrated that his forces weren't able to prevent the destruction until he intervened himself and thus he is looking for someone to blame for all of it?coola wrote:Good thing Burter didn't say that out loud Seriously, what is wrong with Freeza here? I get it he was pissed for getting humilated in front of his people, but he beat Goku, so why he is still so pissed?
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Setting like for World War I. To be fair, Freeza is tyrant, and for tyrants, no matter how loyal you are, if you accidently say or do something that angers them, you will die.
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We may not know the whole story behind every member of Freeza's army, but it's safe to assume that each member knows what they are enslaved for, know they're working for a tyrant, and know they're expendable until they get to the tens to hundreds of thousands pl and even then, their position isn't exactly safe if Freeza is pissed.. Are you telling me that just recently, having worked for Freeza for years if not decades, now Ginyu has a problem with how things are?coola wrote:
Setting like for World War I. To be fair, Freeza is tyrant, and for tyrants, no matter how loyal you are, if you accidently say or do something that angers them, you will die.
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You'd be amazed how many people only realize things after it actually affects them. Ginyu is a bad guy and he is surely egotistical. I wouldn't be surprised if he respected Freeza because of his power and had never really thought of Freeza as unfair basically because everything went his way until that point. He didn't really care about others or put much thought into it.FoolsGil wrote:
We may not know the whole story behind every member of Freeza's army, but it's safe to assume that each member knows what they are enslaved for, know they're working for a tyrant, and know they're expendable until they get to the tens to hundreds of thousands pl and even then, their position isn't exactly safe if Freeza is pissed.. Are you telling me that just recently, having worked for Freeza for years if not decades, now Ginyu has a problem with how things are?
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I'm starting to feel that Ginyu just letting Freeza alone when he gets King Cold's body is an out of character moment from what we see here.