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Re: Vic Mignogna

Postby JacobYBM » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:54 pm

Redubbing would only make Vignigna into a martyr: edgy and something to seek out. My personal feelings on the practice of foreign dubbing aside, it is best to not give fuel to the fire by redubbing the Broli scenes.
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Re: Vic Mignogna

Postby Gyt Kaliba » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:56 pm

Figured this was only a matter of time, it's just gotten way too heated overall for FUNimation to want to be involved with him, whether they believed in his innocence or not (and I'd wager it was also a point now that so many people who work for FUNi a lot more frequently were also pointing fingers, so why run the risk of losing multiple people rather than just one?).

In regards to Dragon Ball, I still highly doubt we're going to have Broly re-dubbed. I also don't think they're going to stop using his previous work on anything else that's already been released (like, I don't think you're suddenly going to find his cover of Dragon Soul removed from Kai, for example). Burter will likely go back to Sabat eternally now too. I...think that's about it for his contributions as far as Dragon Ball goes, unless I'm forgetting something.
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Re: Vic Mignogna

Postby Xeogran » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:01 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:I...think that's about it for his contributions as far as Dragon Ball goes, unless I'm forgetting something.


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Re: Vic Mignogna

Postby SuperSaiyaManZ94 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:05 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:Figured this was only a matter of time, it's just gotten way too heated overall for FUNimation to want to be involved with him, whether they believed in his innocence or not (and I'd wager it was also a point now that so many people who work for FUNi a lot more frequently were also pointing fingers, so why run the risk of losing multiple people rather than just one?).

In regards to Dragon Ball, I still highly doubt we're going to have Broly re-dubbed. I also don't think they're going to stop using his previous work on anything else that's already been released (like, I don't think you're suddenly going to find his cover of Dragon Soul removed from Kai, for example). Burter will likely go back to Sabat eternally now too. I...think that's about it for his contributions as far as Dragon Ball goes, unless I'm forgetting something.


Ironically enough, he was Burter in the Ultimate Uncut re dub on Cartoon Network back in 2005 before later releases (Orange Bricks, Dragon Boxes) where Sabat's voiceover was later placed over it.

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Re: Vic Mignogna

Postby Fionordequester » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:08 pm

Ah, here's something interesting to add to the pile...

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So, here's how the pile is looking now (special thanks to the person who added the "Valerie Depa was a troll accouont" page to the Wayback Machine)...

Only 230 out of 1000 Sexual Assaults are Reported (also gives reasons for why that is):
https://www.rainn.org/statistics/crimin ... ice-system

Testimony Counts as "Evidence":
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3502

FUNimation Themselves Conducted an Investigation:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzKJ7v6V4AA1st2.jpg)

Relevant excerpts from "Illia Sadri": A long time con staff member
(https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/ph ... &start=105)

Tempet: ANN Publisher & CEO
(https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/ph ... &start=120)

More Relevant Excerpts reaching as far back as 2011:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/20 ... s/67872530
https://hetalia-wank.livejournal.com/31 ... 71#t115571
http://vicmeggnognahorrorstories.tumblr ... /%20Creepy

Photoshopping Claim is False (note how Valerie Dave's name was NOT blanked out when this was leaked):
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/new ... 01/1cb.jpg
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/new ... 03/fcf.jpg
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/new ... 05/ab1.jpg

"Valerie Depa" FB Account was Stolen from Someone Else to Smear "KickVic":
https://www.deviantart.com/laundrysoapm ... -784600047
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Re: Vic Mignogna

Postby TKA » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:20 pm

Yes, most companies do their own "internal investigation" when big news like this breaks. It's just corporate-speak that may or may not mean anything.


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Re: Vic Mignogna

Postby Fionordequester » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:22 pm

TKA wrote:Yes, most companies do their own "internal investigation" when big news like this breaks. It's just corporate-speak that may or may not mean anything.


But it may mean something...that's what matters.

EDIT: Also, testimony counts as evidence, even in a court of law. I just learned that today, so, here's the link: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3502
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Re: Vic Mignogna

Postby TKA » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:26 pm

Fionordequester wrote:
TKA wrote:Yes, most companies do their own "internal investigation" when big news like this breaks. It's just corporate-speak that may or may not mean anything.


But it may mean something...that's what matters.


Let me rephrase: it's corporate-speak that never means anything. They don't make the results or methods of their "investigations" public because that makes them liable, or if their methods were dubious, brings them bad PR.

Why I said "may or may not" is because they may have done an actual investigation, but it's likely that they didn't. It's a PR thing to save face, mostly.


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Re: Vic Mignogna

Postby Fionordequester » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:28 pm

Oh...sorry. I didn't pick up on what you meant :( .
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.

Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".

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Re: Vic Mignogna

Postby KBABZ » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:57 pm

I can see a partial redub occur, where Broly's normal dialogue is replaced but his battle screams (of which is it a fair bit of in DBS:B) remain as they were.

At the very least FUNi know that Broly will be coming back in future content so they know to start thinking about someone who can voice this rather popular character.

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Re: Vic Mignogna

Postby Scsigs » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:05 pm

Big Black Saiyan wrote:Funimation kicked Vic out there studio

Only for one dub of one show.

Marlowe89 wrote:I'd be very, very surprised if they redubbed Broly. Even if they had all the time in the world to find a replacement actor before the home release, it's just not cost-effective.

On one hand, that doesn't bother me because I'm fortunate enough to easily separate the art from the artist. On the other hand, I feel for the victims -- maybe if there's a re-release down the line, they can more easily weigh their options.

Back to the topic, this shit has been a long time coming. I'm glad the people he's hurt can be more at peace now.

FUNi rarely rereleases anything outside of remasters that just reuse the original dub recordings they did. They've never redubbed anything anyways outside of early Z & bits of Yu Yu Hakusho to have more consistent recordings of their casts (minus Sean Schemmel, who could've used it the most). Once the Broly movie's out, those are gonna be the audio masters they're gonna be using forever. Trust me.
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Re: Vic Mignogna

Postby jjgp1112 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:10 pm

Scsigs wrote:
Big Black Saiyan wrote:Funimation kicked Vic out there studio

Only for one dub of one show.

"Funimation will not be engaging Mignogna in future productions."
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Re: Vic Mignogna

Postby Scsigs » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:15 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:
Scsigs wrote:
Big Black Saiyan wrote:Funimation kicked Vic out there studio

Only for one dub of one show.

"Funimation will not be engaging Mignogna in future productions."

Doesn't mean he's not still Broly, or Sabo. These have been going on for years now, which means they're not new, but we'll see if they announce any recastings.
We'll see what happens.
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Re: Vic Mignogna

Postby Woodlandbuckle » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:41 pm

we gonna talk about this "Jamie Marchie" that said she wanted Vic's head?

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Re: Vic Mignogna

Postby Terez » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:46 pm

Fionordequester wrote:So, here's how the pile is looking now (special thanks to the person who added the "Valerie Depa was a troll accouont" page to the Wayback Machine)...


How about adding these:

https://prettyuglylittleliar.net/topic/ ... -mignogna/ (general Vic Stories and Rumors thread)
https://twitter.com/MichellMcC73/status ... 5583037440 (sexual assault before he was famous)
also https://twitter.com/MichellMcC73/status ... 7932384256 (addressing common troll argument about her story)
https://twitter.com/marchimark/status/1 ... 8327150592 (Funi VA testimony)
https://twitter.com/Rialisms/status/1093275331929296897 (Funi VA testimony)
https://twitter.com/karaedwards/status/ ... 5051717635 (Funi VA testimony)
https://twitter.com/_maryados_/status/1 ... 8525205504 (non-consensual kiss to 15-yo with receipts)

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Re: Vic Mignogna

Postby RichardKing2 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:46 pm

Scsigs wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:
Scsigs wrote:Only for one dub of one show.

"Funimation will not be engaging Mignogna in future productions."

Doesn't mean he's not still Broly, or Sabo. These have been going on for years now, which means they're not new, but we'll see if they announce any recastings.
We'll see what happens.

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Re: Vic Mignogna

Postby JacobYBM » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:47 pm

Woodlandbuckle wrote:we gonna talk about this "Jamie Marchie" that said she wanted Vic's head?


What does it matter? The piece of shit touched her in inappropriate ways.
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Re: Vic Mignogna

Postby Woodlandbuckle » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:52 pm

JacobYBM wrote:
Woodlandbuckle wrote:we gonna talk about this "Jamie Marchie" that said she wanted Vic's head?


What does it matter? The piece of shit touched her in inappropriate ways.

Wait what, when did this happen? I think I missed something.

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Re: Vic Mignogna

Postby Terez » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:04 pm

Check the link I gave like 3 posts above

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Re: Vic Mignogna

Postby Kinokima » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:38 pm

Scsigs wrote:
jjgp1112 wrote:
Scsigs wrote:Only for one dub of one show.

"Funimation will not be engaging Mignogna in future productions."

Doesn't mean he's not still Broly, or Sabo. These have been going on for years now, which means they're not new, but we'll see if they announce any recastings.
We'll see what happens.



They will be recast if the roles will be needed again. They are no longer working with Vic. That tweet made it abundantly clear.


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