Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by HakkaiBills93 » Wed Mar 21, 2018 10:05 am

Ok i hope it will be fine, i am curious about the lut things, it's a huge work to do

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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by lansing » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:13 pm

Ok I finally got the demo page up, waste so much time just to get it up without actually building the page.

http://www.gurugurumagic.com/

The site will contains two main parts. One is the listing of all the cel images and character models. When you click on the cel image, it shows some basic info about the cel.

The character models are build according to the cel. So one cel image may have 1 to many character models. When you click on the model, it will show the info like name of the character, and the most important thing, it will show the color used for every part of the model. Since I don't know how many color palette had been used for every character, I'm just going to pile up all the models. Every cel image will have a new character model attach to it. So at the end we may have like 20 models of the same Goku with his gi.

The second part of the site is a library storing info for all the episodes. After we've collected a big data from the cel images, we can then link the character model to every scene in the library. For example, when I see a scene in kai episode 160 that contains Gohan, I'll then look into the character model database and find a Gohan model that was from an episode close to 160, and then link him to the scene. After that we can then define the source color that we're mapping to (kai). And eventually scenes will be filled and we can generate color palettes for both the cel and kai.

So far I got about 25% done. Cel images and models are showing correctly. Mind the simple layout, I have no time for those yet. The data entry on the backend is not done, as well as the episode library. Give your thought on what can be added.

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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by lansing » Sun Mar 25, 2018 3:14 am

I added a demo page of the cel matching library to the site. They're just hardcoded for now, in production all the data will be fetch from the database.

The library will show the entire progress of the project in one page. You can browse around and look for any color palette of any scene of any episode.

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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by HakkaiBills93 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:48 am

lansing wrote:I added a demo page of the cel matching library to the site. They're just hardcoded for now, in production all the data will be fetch from the database.

The library will show the entire progress of the project in one page. You can browse around and look for any color palette of any scene of any episode.
interesting and allways curious to see it one day :)

i was a friend of after effect but finally i switch to a better way of doing cc (no color match tools) so i played a little with db 109 which is one of the worst altered episodes
it's not perfect but it's encouraging for me :)

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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by HakkaiBills93 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:15 am

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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by Robo4900 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:08 am

Why are you upscaling it?
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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by HakkaiBills93 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:15 am

Cause the lines look less blury on my TV when i upscale it than when i do it in SD and watch it on tv (and it's experimental settings i allways learn, practice, make test etc)
and before someone talk about the grain reduce just look those two shots from the same frame of db 139
i make a black line to show that it seems like a grainy ghost of goku (grain isn't the same on all the sky) it seems like noise for me
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and this one grain reduce (i don't see any details loss) but for me this one look far better than the previous one
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the same color corrected
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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by HakkaiBills93 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 6:58 am

Someone i know did this and want to know what people think about his work
https://prnt.sc/j8g5y3
thanks

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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by Robo4900 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:59 am

HakkaiBills93 wrote:Someone i know did this and want to know what people think about his work
https://prnt.sc/j8g5y3
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If you want my honest opinion, the reds are far too orange, Tambourine's eyes should be more yellow, and his skin should be a deeper green, the sky is too deep a blue, and Goku's skin is too pink.

It's a great start, though.
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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by Trachta10 » Sun Jun 03, 2018 9:29 pm

HakkaiBills93 wrote:Cause the lines look less blury on my TV when i upscale it than when i do it in SD and watch it on tv (and it's experimental settings i allways learn, practice, make test etc)
and before someone talk about the grain reduce just look those two shots from the same frame of db 139
i make a black line to show that it seems like a grainy ghost of goku (grain isn't the same on all the sky) it seems like noise for me
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and this one grain reduce (i don't see any details loss) but for me this one look far better than the previous one
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the same color corrected
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I try with Waifu2x
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I hope someone does this with all Dragon Ball
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-CKX7k0T5g

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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by HakkaiBills93 » Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:21 am

really....unnatural and ugly for me

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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by Ajay » Mon Jun 04, 2018 11:32 am

Yeah, Waifu2x is gross and should be avoided.
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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by Trachta10 » Mon Jun 04, 2018 5:31 pm

Ajay wrote:Yeah, Waifu2x is gross and should be avoided.
but I think you could combine the two things, improve the quality and color of the image
It's not that bad :(
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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by Robo4900 » Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:46 am

Trachta10 wrote:
Ajay wrote:Yeah, Waifu2x is gross and should be avoided.
but I think you could combine the two things, improve the quality and color of the image
It's not that bad :(
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I'm with Ajay on this one. The look of the Waifu2x scaler reminds me of the Funimation Blu-Rays of Z, which is about the worst possible description I can give for a video filter.
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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by HakkaiBills93 » Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:17 am

as long as it don't exist true HD footage, i think the best is to keep the original source untouch
like this it's already great for me

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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by Ajay » Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:23 am

Trachta10 wrote:but I think you could combine the two things, improve the quality and color of the image
It's not that bad :(
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Nah, it's pretty terrible. Everything becomes a gross smeary mess. Check out the rocks in that last GT image - you've destroyed all of the textural detail there.
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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by Jesta' » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:08 pm

Trachta10 wrote:
Ajay wrote:Yeah, Waifu2x is gross and should be avoided.
but I think you could combine the two things, improve the quality and color of the image
It's not that bad :(
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Don't let these people put you down. Your filters are amazing! Keep up the good work!

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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by Ajay » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:54 pm

Mindlessly praising poor approaches isn't very beneficial. It's not about putting people down, it's about ensuring nobody's going in the wrong direction.
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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by Robo4900 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:28 pm

Indeed. It's called constructive criticism because it helps you understand what your mistakes are so you may improve.
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Re: Color Correcting the Dragon Box - 3 Part Spectacular

Post by Jesta' » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:37 pm

I'm being honest. I though his use of Waifu2x with cc was impressive. I would prefer to watch DB, Z, and GT the way he edited those.

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