Who are the 4 villains ? Piccolo JR, Vegeta, Freeza and ? king Piccolo ?Super_Divine_Genki wrote:Cell (Perfect) is not a bland/boring antagonist. The idea that he's genetically made up of the three previous big bads (four, counting Piccolo Jr.) PLUS the series main protagonist was a good one.
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My mistake. It should be three (Freeza, Vegeta, and Piccolo Jr.). King Cold wasn't a big bad.sintzu wrote:Who are the 4 villains ? Piccolo JR, Vegeta, Freeza and ? king Piccolo ?Super_Divine_Genki wrote:Cell (Perfect) is not a bland/boring antagonist. The idea that he's genetically made up of the three previous big bads (four, counting Piccolo Jr.) PLUS the series main protagonist was a good one.
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King's Cold's addition to Cell is a mark of Toriyama's brilliance, though.
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If Imperfect Cell had the same build as Goku Black (anime) regarding the mystery surrounding his character and motivations, it would made him great back then.LuckyCat wrote:I wouldn't go that far. Imperfect Cell at least stands out as the only character to psychologically manipulate the entire cast.Jinzoningen MULE wrote:He's uninteresting in spite of having every opportunity not to be.
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Zamasu always had deep underlining resentment and distrust of mortals. Meeting Goku, and coming to terms with what he had "feared" in person from sparring with Goku, basically through him off the edge.Jinzoningen MULE wrote:It took him all of 5 minutes with Goku to decide he wanted to kill humans. The rest of his development was nothing more than fleshing out and confirming his reasons. Not exactly a tragic character, though I think it would've been interesting if that route had been taken instead.dbs fanboy wrote:Zamasu is a tragic character in the sense that he was really misguided and could have been changed if he had a better master.
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I am feeling that Toyotaro artstyle is more an imitation of Tadayoshi Yamamuro rather than Akira Toriyama.
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His drawings look nothing like Yamamuro's, the compositions aren't even in the same vein. Toyotaro really couldn't imitate Yamamuro even if he wanted to, the methods are entirely different.Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:I am feeling that Toyotaro artstyle is more an imitation of Tadayoshi Yamamuro rather than Akira Toriyama.
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While Funimation's dubs of Kai and the recent stuff are better than the Saban and Westwood dub, I think Ocean has the more talented actors.
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But still if we hear Tenshinhan Voice in Super it's not that it's bad but Suzuoki had a unique charm to his voice.8000 Saiyan wrote:Although he's not as good as Suzuoki, I actually like Hikaru Midorjkawa's Tenshinhan.
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I actually liked the Wedding Dress Filler and Specially the Last Episode where goku is a savage and he straight away throws away Anin's Spoon of Spaghetti which she offers him to taste and he even fights Her but the end was nice when goku goes into the fire to stop it and in that episode he even had to push Grandpa Gohan away.
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I miss Suzuoki so much. He was one of the most talented Japanese voice actors of all time.Ripper 30 wrote:But still if we hear Tenshinhan Voice in Super it's not that it's bad but Suzuoki had a unique charm to his voice.8000 Saiyan wrote:Although he's not as good as Suzuoki, I actually like Hikaru Midorjkawa's Tenshinhan.
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Ocean has some very good actors, Death Note and Black Lagoon are top tier dubs, and there work on Inuyasha is very good to. The Kai dub is great but I don't believe it's the same quality as some of Funi's other dubs.8000 Saiyan wrote:While Funimation's dubs of Kai and the recent stuff are better than the Saban and Westwood dub, I think Ocean has the more talented actors.
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I, for one, really like the humans.
I've always really liked Krillin, Tien, and Yamcha. As a kid, I thought that they were super cool. Especially Yamcha (mostly when he was younger) and Tien. Krillin is a character that I have a really soft spot for. His connections with Bulma, Goku, Gohan, and Roshi are strangely nostalgic and he is super funny. Possibly one of the most relatable characters in the series. Chi Chi, Bulma, and VIdel are also some of my favorites. I looked up to them a lot as a kid. Bulma is also the most iconic female in the whole series.
For some reason I've always liked GT, but not for the plot. I find most of it really nostalgic, like the fact that the main Z characters grown up and for the ending themes.
I've always really liked Krillin, Tien, and Yamcha. As a kid, I thought that they were super cool. Especially Yamcha (mostly when he was younger) and Tien. Krillin is a character that I have a really soft spot for. His connections with Bulma, Goku, Gohan, and Roshi are strangely nostalgic and he is super funny. Possibly one of the most relatable characters in the series. Chi Chi, Bulma, and VIdel are also some of my favorites. I looked up to them a lot as a kid. Bulma is also the most iconic female in the whole series.
For some reason I've always liked GT, but not for the plot. I find most of it really nostalgic, like the fact that the main Z characters grown up and for the ending themes.
Majin Buu: So, hotshot, you want to fight Majin Buu?
Gohan: Fight you? No. I want to kill you.
Gohan: Now I'll show you why my little brother looks up to me.
Majin Buu: He doesn't. In fact, he wonders why you let me absorb him.
Future Gohan: You cannot gain without first suffering the pain of loss.
Gohan: 16, you loved life. You gave everything up to save it. And you were just an Android. I let you die...I can't do that...I won't watch anymore. I...I feel it slipping. And I won't watch this anymore!
Goku: Gohan! You've got to take Cell down now before he can regenerate!
Gohan: Take him down now? No, I think I'll wait. I'm going to let him suffer for a little while.
Gohan: Fight you? No. I want to kill you.
Gohan: Now I'll show you why my little brother looks up to me.
Majin Buu: He doesn't. In fact, he wonders why you let me absorb him.
Future Gohan: You cannot gain without first suffering the pain of loss.
Gohan: 16, you loved life. You gave everything up to save it. And you were just an Android. I let you die...I can't do that...I won't watch anymore. I...I feel it slipping. And I won't watch this anymore!
Goku: Gohan! You've got to take Cell down now before he can regenerate!
Gohan: Take him down now? No, I think I'll wait. I'm going to let him suffer for a little while.
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Somebody has probably said it already but I find Path to Power a tad bit overrated.
Don't get me wrong, it's still a good movie with really good animation but I just don't put it close to the top among all the DB/Z movies. My issue with it is that it has some rather odd flow and watching it it felt to me that if I weren't a DB fan already familiar with the old story of DB's beginnings, the events going on in it would just feel odd. Because all the familiar events are compressed to movie format there's not that much of a journey for Goku and Bulma and they just have random events thrown at them at a fast pace. Goku stumbles upon Bulma, then they stumble upon Oolong, then suddenly Yamcha, then suddenly Muscle Tower, then suddenly Roshi. At least it gets better in the latter half. Again, if I wasn't familiar with DB already I'd think these events are coming out of nowhere, but I suppose I'd need an opinion from someone who watched this first.
Don't get me wrong, it's still a good movie with really good animation but I just don't put it close to the top among all the DB/Z movies. My issue with it is that it has some rather odd flow and watching it it felt to me that if I weren't a DB fan already familiar with the old story of DB's beginnings, the events going on in it would just feel odd. Because all the familiar events are compressed to movie format there's not that much of a journey for Goku and Bulma and they just have random events thrown at them at a fast pace. Goku stumbles upon Bulma, then they stumble upon Oolong, then suddenly Yamcha, then suddenly Muscle Tower, then suddenly Roshi. At least it gets better in the latter half. Again, if I wasn't familiar with DB already I'd think these events are coming out of nowhere, but I suppose I'd need an opinion from someone who watched this first.
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he was8000 Saiyan wrote:I miss Suzuoki so much. He was one of the most talented Japanese voice actors of all time.Ripper 30 wrote:But still if we hear Tenshinhan Voice in Super it's not that it's bad but Suzuoki had a unique charm to his voice.8000 Saiyan wrote:Although he's not as good as Suzuoki, I actually like Hikaru Midorjkawa's Tenshinhan.
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I've personally never been crazy about Ocean's pool of actors. It's not that they're bad, but they don't leave much of an impression on me. This really started to occur to me after watching through Beast Wars. The voice acting in that show is way too over the top for it's own good.8000 Saiyan wrote:While Funimation's dubs of Kai and the recent stuff are better than the Saban and Westwood dub, I think Ocean has the more talented actors.
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It's Transformers. Were you expecting subtlety?WittyUsername wrote:I've personally never been crazy about Ocean's pool of actors. It's not that they're bad, but they don't leave much of an impression on me. This really started to occur to me after watching through Beast Wars. The voice acting in that show is way too over the top for it's own good.8000 Saiyan wrote:While Funimation's dubs of Kai and the recent stuff are better than the Saban and Westwood dub, I think Ocean has the more talented actors.
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No, but even so, the performances, along with much of the dialogue just seem too silly for me to buy the more serious moments.ABED wrote:It's Transformers. Were you expecting subtlety?WittyUsername wrote:I've personally never been crazy about Ocean's pool of actors. It's not that they're bad, but they don't leave much of an impression on me. This really started to occur to me after watching through Beast Wars. The voice acting in that show is way too over the top for it's own good.8000 Saiyan wrote:While Funimation's dubs of Kai and the recent stuff are better than the Saban and Westwood dub, I think Ocean has the more talented actors.
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Fair enough. I only watched the show sporadically 20 years ago, but I don't recall being bugged by the acting.
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For the record, I don't think Beast Wars is a bad show. There are good things about it, and I can definitely see why it holds a special place for many Transformers fans. I probably would've been more invested in the show if I were a bigger Transformers fan, which I'm not.