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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by nickzambuto » Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:59 pm

DragonBallKing wrote:I wish we got another adventure focused arc after red ribbon.
At least half of Namek was an adventure arc, and that half was about as long as the RRA.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by WittyUsername » Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:05 pm

nickzambuto wrote:
DragonBallKing wrote:I wish we got another adventure focused arc after red ribbon.
At least half of Namek was an adventure arc, and that half was about as long as the RRA.
True, but it in all fairness, it's the fighting portion of the arc that's most remembered. It even features the longest fight in the entire series.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:30 pm

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8000 Saiyan wrote:While Funimation's dubs of Kai and the recent stuff are better than the Saban and Westwood dub, I think Ocean has the more talented actors.
I've personally never been crazy about Ocean's pool of actors. It's not that they're bad, but they don't leave much of an impression on me. This really started to occur to me after watching through Beast Wars. The voice acting in that show is way too over the top for it's own good.
Fine by me. I personally don't mind over-the-top acting since it's basically what defines Transformers. I can't think of one series that doesn't have it. If I had to choose between bad overacting and bad underacting, I'd choose bad overacting. At least they try.

Still, Beast Wars has its fair share of subtle moments, and the actors shine in those moments. But I doubt you'll give them any credit.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by WittyUsername » Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:40 pm

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8000 Saiyan wrote:While Funimation's dubs of Kai and the recent stuff are better than the Saban and Westwood dub, I think Ocean has the more talented actors.
I've personally never been crazy about Ocean's pool of actors. It's not that they're bad, but they don't leave much of an impression on me. This really started to occur to me after watching through Beast Wars. The voice acting in that show is way too over the top for it's own good.
Fine by me. I personally don't mind over-the-top acting since it's basically what defines Transformers. I can't think of one series that doesn't have it. If I had to choose between bad overacting and bad underacting, I'd choose bad overacting. At least they try.

Still, Beast Wars has its fair share of subtle moments, and the actors shine in those moments. But I doubt you'll give them any credit.

Like I said, I don't hate Beast Wars. There definitely are good things about it, and it definitely deserves some credit for actually trying to tell a story, rather than simply being an excuse to sell toys. I just feel that the voice acting can get pretty silly. There's no reason to be defensive.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:29 pm

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8000 Saiyan wrote:
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I've personally never been crazy about Ocean's pool of actors. It's not that they're bad, but they don't leave much of an impression on me. This really started to occur to me after watching through Beast Wars. The voice acting in that show is way too over the top for it's own good.
Fine by me. I personally don't mind over-the-top acting since it's basically what defines Transformers. I can't think of one series that doesn't have it. If I had to choose between bad overacting and bad underacting, I'd choose bad overacting. At least they try.

Still, Beast Wars has its fair share of subtle moments, and the actors shine in those moments. But I doubt you'll give them any credit.

Like I said, I don't hate Beast Wars. There definitely are good things about it, and it definitely deserves some credit for actually trying to tell a story, rather than simply being an excuse to sell toys. I just feel that the voice acting can get pretty silly. There's no reason to be defensive.
And what's wrong with having silly moments in a serious show?
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by WittyUsername » Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:49 pm

8000 Saiyan wrote:
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8000 Saiyan wrote: Fine by me. I personally don't mind over-the-top acting since it's basically what defines Transformers. I can't think of one series that doesn't have it. If I had to choose between bad overacting and bad underacting, I'd choose bad overacting. At least they try.

Still, Beast Wars has its fair share of subtle moments, and the actors shine in those moments. But I doubt you'll give them any credit.

Like I said, I don't hate Beast Wars. There definitely are good things about it, and it definitely deserves some credit for actually trying to tell a story, rather than simply being an excuse to sell toys. I just feel that the voice acting can get pretty silly. There's no reason to be defensive.
And what's wrong with having silly moments in a serious show?
I wasn't referring to the silly moments, I meant that a lot of the serious moments were kind of difficult to take seriously because of how over the top the voice acting was. Hearing Megatron constantly exclaiming a long drawn out "yeees" can get pretty ridiculous for example.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:50 pm

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8000 Saiyan wrote:
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Like I said, I don't hate Beast Wars. There definitely are good things about it, and it definitely deserves some credit for actually trying to tell a story, rather than simply being an excuse to sell toys. I just feel that the voice acting can get pretty silly. There's no reason to be defensive.
And what's wrong with having silly moments in a serious show?
I wasn't referring to the silly moments, I meant that a lot of the serious moments were kind of difficult to take seriously because of how over the top the voice acting was. Hearing Megatron constantly exclaiming a long drawn out "yeees" can get pretty ridiculous for example.
Megatron is supposed to be hammy, so I don't have a problem.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:45 am

Dbzfan94 wrote:Dub haters can be much worse than the sub haters.
While I prefer subs most of the time, I can agree with you on that. How I hate the sub vs. dub wars. Purists like BioZero216 make it way more toxic that it needs to be.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Dbzfan94 » Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:40 pm

8000 Saiyan wrote:
Dbzfan94 wrote:Dub haters can be much worse than the sub haters.
While I prefer subs most of the time, I can agree with you on that. How I hate the sub vs. dub wars. Purists like BioZero216 make it way more toxic that it needs to be.
Oh god, BioZero216 is FormidableWarrior levels of elitist asshole. He thinks it's his God-given right to put down "retarded Z dub fans" every single chance he gets.

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Post by 8000 Saiyan » Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:55 pm

Dbzfan94 wrote:
8000 Saiyan wrote:
Dbzfan94 wrote:Dub haters can be much worse than the sub haters.
While I prefer subs most of the time, I can agree with you on that. How I hate the sub vs. dub wars. Purists like BioZero216 make it way more toxic that it needs to be.
Oh god, BioZero216 is FormidableWarrior levels of elitist asshole. He thinks it's his God-given right to put down "retarded Z dub fans" every single chance he gets.
Yeah, Bio is not very mature. It's funny how he thinks he's much better than dub haters, when he's just as worse. He should just take a chill pill and leave the internet for a while. Thing is, I doubt he'll do such a thing. I feel bad for his small group of friends who are also dub defenders who have to cope with him on Twitter, YouTube and BTVA.

Here's what he said about a dub hater in a video about a clip of the Prison School dub where one of the characters mentioned Gamergate:

"I hope he gets stabbed in his menstruating cunt"

For a guy who says that dub fans are mature, respectable and humble, he sure isn't being any of those things. What a damn hypocrite.

While I don't like the old Funimation Z dub, I'd never put down people for liking it. Really, it's better to be more mature and accept that there are people who like things that you don't. If people like the Funi, the Ocean, the Kai dub or the Japanese version, that's fine by me. There's no need to lash at people, but people just do it because they think they're better for liking something. Oh well.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kanassa » Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:29 pm

8000 Saiyan wrote:the Prison School dub where one of the characters mentioned Gamergate:
Wait, that was a thing? I thought it was a joke when the internet was talking about a dub line that made no sense.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:46 pm

Kanassa wrote:
8000 Saiyan wrote:the Prison School dub where one of the characters mentioned Gamergate:
Wait, that was a thing? I thought it was a joke when the internet was talking about a dub line that made no sense.
Indeed it is.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Guesswhoo » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:44 am

Am I the only one to think that DB is not incosistent but have some debatable moment ? This fanbase (and some outsider) seem to call anything they don't like an incosistency.

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Guesswhoo wrote:Am I the only one to think that DB is not incosistent but have some debatable moment ? This fanbase (and some outsider) seem to call anything they don't like an incosistency.
Yes the fandom at times over analysis the show
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Noah » Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:38 pm

nickzambuto wrote:
DragonBallKing wrote:I wish we got another adventure focused arc after red ribbon.
At least half of Namek was an adventure arc, and that half was about as long as the RRA.
Too bad its scenario was pretty bland in comparison.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:57 pm

Noah wrote:
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DragonBallKing wrote:I wish we got another adventure focused arc after red ribbon.
At least half of Namek was an adventure arc, and that half was about as long as the RRA.
Too bad its scenario was pretty bland in comparison.
Wait, which scenario was bland in comparison to which?
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Post by Noah » Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:45 pm

ABED wrote:Wait, which scenario was bland in comparison to which?
Planet Namek to the places Goku travelled in the RR arc.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by DragonBallKing » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:19 pm

Noah wrote:
ABED wrote:Wait, which scenario was bland in comparison to which?
Planet Namek to the places Goku travelled in the RR arc.
Yeah namek is pretty bland compared to the variety in RR
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Gog » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:39 pm

DragonBallKing wrote:
Noah wrote:
ABED wrote:Wait, which scenario was bland in comparison to which?
Planet Namek to the places Goku travelled in the RR arc.
Yeah namek is pretty bland compared to the variety in RR
I'd actually say that Planet Namek was an incredibly interesting location. Most of its vibrant and gorgeous, and I love when we get to see its wildlife.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:40 pm

You guys seem to be talking about the location as opposed to the story. The RRA arc did give more variety (including the amusement park in the filler episode) of locals, but the adventure of looking for the DB's was exciting in the Freeza arc.
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