Unpopular DB opinions

[Rocketman]

The way it happens in the anime, it looks like they animated 2 of the panels in reverse order. But yeah, in the manga, it really doesn't look like Piccolo was trying to shield Goku from the blast. Piccolo gets blasted and then falls towards the other heroes and finally falls to the ground...although his placement between these panels is questionable but that may or may not be relevant.

It's a mistake in the manga, I think. Piccolo is standing way the hell away from the other guys:



Unless getting shot caused him to leap about fifteen feet to his left like he's in a low-budget Western.

[ABED]

I hate that I gave you ammunition, but the fact remains, regardless of how the exposition was delivered it's a good story. You wouldn't have even thought of that if someone hadn't pointed it out to you.

Funny how you've gotten on me for thinking my views on the Cell arc are fact, yet you just said that the Cell saga being good is a fact.

That's never been my problem with you, ever. I don't have issues with people thinking something is bad, but your constant negativity bothers me to no end. It's poisonous and not interesting. I don't get what you get from any of these conversations. It makes ZERO sense to talk about something you hate this much. I know, I know, "I don't hate it, it's just so bad that it's good" or whatever, but I don't see the difference in either view. I can admit my faults in that I can come off as abrasive, but I don't think anyone would mistake that for me not liking the show.

I also love Dr. Gero & Imperfect Cell design, they are really creepy villains

Agreed

[thatdbzguy]

It makes ZERO sense to talk about something you hate this much. I know, I know, "I don't hate it, it's just so bad that it's good" or whatever, but I don't see the difference in either view.

And that's the problem. Once you realize the difference, maybe then you'll better understand where I'm coming from.

[FrogTrigger]

Not sure, but I'd have him introduce himself as someone created by Bulma and sent to the present to help fight against Androids.

Foreshadowing of his "heel" turn would include Trunks & Krillin finding an embyro in Gero's lab.

I like the bolded

For some reason I think them finding his egg would be better

Or would he destroy that?

[Kid Buu]

A lot of people say the "formula" started with Piccolo, but I think it started with Tenshinhan. That's when the series became random character after random character coming out of nowhere and Goku or somebody pulling random strength outta somewhere to beat them.

[ABED]

I fail to see how the series became "random character" coming "out of nowhere".

Also, the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai wasn't formulaic. If it was, Goku would've won.

[Saiga]

A lot of people say the "formula" started with Piccolo, but I think it started with Tenshinhan. That's when the series became random character after random character coming out of nowhere and Goku or somebody pulling random strength outta somewhere to beat them.

If that's how loosely you describe it, than the formula started with chapter 1.

[Kid Buu]

A lot of people say the "formula" started with Piccolo, but I think it started with Tenshinhan. That's when the series became random character after random character coming out of nowhere and Goku or somebody pulling random strength outta somewhere to beat them.

If that's how loosely you describe it, than the formula started with chapter 1.

You're right, the series has sucked since chapter 1.

Worst. Manga. Ever.

[DonZ]

A lot of people say the "formula" started with Piccolo, but I think it started with Tenshinhan. That's when the series became random character after random character coming out of nowhere and Goku or somebody pulling random strength outta somewhere to beat them.

If that's how loosely you describe it, than the formula started with chapter 1.

You're right, the series has sucked since chapter 1.

Worst. Manga. Ever.

So you're basically saying that the series sucked since the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai ?

[TheGmGoken]

A lot of people say the "formula" started with Piccolo, but I think it started with Tenshinhan. That's when the series became random character after random character coming out of nowhere and Goku or somebody pulling random strength outta somewhere to beat them.

If that's how loosely you describe it, than the formula started with chapter 1.

You're right, the series has sucked since chapter 1.

Worst. Manga. Ever.

Agreed. None of characters are useful, even Goku is useless. No wonder this manga got no fans

[VegettoEX]

A lot of people say the "formula" started with Piccolo, but I think it started with Tenshinhan. That's when the series became random character after random character coming out of nowhere and Goku or somebody pulling random strength outta somewhere to beat them.

Really inappropriate. It's obvious what the ulterior motive is here. If you're interested in disingenuous conversations like this, you can take it elsewhere.

[Kid Buu]

A lot of people say the "formula" started with Piccolo, but I think it started with Tenshinhan. That's when the series became random character after random character coming out of nowhere and Goku or somebody pulling random strength outta somewhere to beat them.

Really inappropriate. It's obvious what the ulterior motive is here. If you're interested in disingenuous conversations like this, you can take it elsewhere.

Alright, serious time with serious face.

I do think Tenshinhan is when the series changes, not when Piccolo shows up. Prior to this was mostly gag fights, but now it is starting to get serious. We still get a few gags here in there, but it seems mostly serious from this point on.

[TheGmGoken]

A lot of people say the "formula" started with Piccolo, but I think it started with Tenshinhan. That's when the series became random character after random character coming out of nowhere and Goku or somebody pulling random strength outta somewhere to beat them.

Really inappropriate. It's obvious what the ulterior motive is here. If you're interested in disingenuous conversations like this, you can take it elsewhere.

Alright, serious time with serious face.

I do think Tenshinhan is when the series changes, not when Piccolo shows up. Prior to this was mostly gag fights, but now it is starting to get serious. We still get a few gags here in there, but it seems mostly serious from this point on.

I think Ten set the precedent. Not actual change the tone or series.

[Hades]

Freeza's empire is run by morons.

1) They never had spare scouters on board the ship.
2) Freeza never ordered the doctors to put a tracking chip in Vegeta (seriously, that would have gone a long way in finding the DBs.
3) They never extrapolated the scouters to a ship-based radar that could track Ki users. All it would have taken was for the ship to launch a few satellites (6 for each "corner" of the planet) and BAM! total coverage of the planet.
4) Said satellites could also detect and intercept inbound ships, ensuring that Gohan, Bulma, Krillin and Goku would burn up in the atmosphere.

[FortuneSSJ]

Thanks to the last events, a lot of people are saying Toriyama should just retire.
So its my unpopular opinion to say he shouldn't.

[ABED]

Freeza's empire is run by morons.

2) Freeza never ordered the doctors to put a tracking chip in Vegeta (seriously, that would have gone a long way in finding the DBs.
3) They never extrapolated the scouters to a ship-based radar that could track Ki users. All it would have taken was for the ship to launch a few satellites (6 for each "corner" of the planet) and BAM! total coverage of the planet.
4) Said satellites could also detect and intercept inbound ships, ensuring that Gohan, Bulma, Krillin and Goku would burn up in the atmosphere.

2) good luck with that idea.
3 and 4 are reasons why I don't like fan speculation.

[Hades]

Freeza's empire is run by morons.

2) Freeza never ordered the doctors to put a tracking chip in Vegeta (seriously, that would have gone a long way in finding the DBs.
3) They never extrapolated the scouters to a ship-based radar that could track Ki users. All it would have taken was for the ship to launch a few satellites (6 for each "corner" of the planet) and BAM! total coverage of the planet.
4) Said satellites could also detect and intercept inbound ships, ensuring that Gohan, Bulma, Krillin and Goku would burn up in the atmosphere.

2) good luck with that idea.
3 and 4 are reasons why I don't like fan speculation.

2) It would have saved Freeza a lot of heartache.
3 & 4) are just extrapolating from in-universe capabilities.

[ABED]

But good luck getting the chip on or in Vegeta.
Again, that's pure speculation, and second, if they have those capabilities, it would make sense that Bulma built the ship with something to defend against those things.
Lastly, if you have the power to destroy a planet, I hardly think building that sort of tech is much of a care for a being as powerful Freeza.

[Hades]

But good luck getting the chip on or in Vegeta.
Again, that's pure speculation, and second, if they have those capabilities, it would make sense that Bulma built the ship with something to defend against those things.
Lastly, if you have the power to destroy a planet, I hardly think building that sort of tech is much of a care for a being as powerful Freeza.

Plenty of opportunities when he's in the healing tank (hell, it would be standard for all troops to have such wetware.)

I doubt Bulma put in any defensive weaponry or shielding to protect the ship from space-based weaponry, considering that a couple of pew-pew blasters torched it

By that logic, the US should have nuked Vietnam.

[ABED]

But good luck getting the chip on or in Vegeta.
Again, that's pure speculation, and second, if they have those capabilities, it would make sense that Bulma built the ship with something to defend against those things.
Lastly, if you have the power to destroy a planet, I hardly think building that sort of tech is much of a care for a being as powerful Freeza.

Plenty of opportunities when he's in the healing tank (hell, it would be standard for all troops to have such wetware.)

I doubt Bulma put in any defensive weaponry or shielding to protect the ship from space-based weaponry, considering that a couple of pew-pew blasters torched it

By that logic, the US should have nuked Vietnam.

We're talking about fictional worlds, and I fail to see how you made the parallel to Vietnam.

Again, we're talking about what ifs. I fail to see how yours is so much better. Freeza cares enough to put up satellite weapons but it's ridiculous that Bulma might think of defensive weaponry?