Unpopular DB opinions

[WittyUsername]

I never really understood the argument that Schemmel makes Goku sound like a tough guy. Even back in 1999, his Goku voice never struck me as being particularly macho sounding. When I think of a Goku voice that tries too hard to be macho, I think of his voice from the Big Green dub, not from any of the other English dubs.

[majinwarman]

Do you have an English Goku you like? Looking back, I can't find any really. At least, none that come close to capturing the spirit of the character. Corlett, Kelamis, Morrow, Schemmel, etc. just don't seem to do it. Of course, Kelamis and Schemmel got to work with decent scripts and we saw attempts at the goofy/naive side of Goku but mileage varies on how people feel about the results.

Corlett gets a lot of praise but I just don't see it. Even in instances where the script doesn't affect much, like screams, he sounds flat.

Corlett's not flat, he's subtle. He's too subdued for the character, but I still like his acting nonetheless. Kelamis is awful, Morrow is bland, and Schemmel tries too hard. Schemmel's probably my favorite English speaking Goku, but still nowhere near Nozawa.

There is no one who can do Goku like Nozawa can. By the way, have you watched Super yet? I remember you saying that you haven't watched it yet.

[PsionicWarrior]

There is no one who can do Goku like Nozawa can.

Quoted for truth

[Cure Dragon 255]

Do you have an English Goku you like? Looking back, I can't find any really. At least, none that come close to capturing the spirit of the character. Corlett, Kelamis, Morrow, Schemmel, etc. just don't seem to do it. Of course, Kelamis and Schemmel got to work with decent scripts and we saw attempts at the goofy/naive side of Goku but mileage varies on how people feel about the results.

Corlett gets a lot of praise but I just don't see it. Even in instances where the script doesn't affect much, like screams, he sounds flat.

Corlett's not flat, he's subtle. He's too subdued for the character, but I still like his acting nonetheless. Kelamis is awful, Morrow is bland, and Schemmel tries too hard. Schemmel's probably my favorite English speaking Goku, but still nowhere near Nozawa.

Sean's voice nowadays sounds even MORE unfitting, it sounds like he's making it deeper purposefully that's why it's raspy and way too gruff. Totally out of Character for Goku, he isn't some random Tough Guy. when Nozawa deepens her Goku voice in serious scenes, her Goku still sounds like a Serious "Goku" and not a generic tough Guy unlike Sean who makes him sound like a Generic western tough guy with a Gruff tone and nothing "Goku-like" is there in it with the speech pattern lacking hick tone already from the start and only giving more "generic" Superhero feel. also his goofy Goku is forced like i am hearing Mario with the way he forces his deep voice to sound funny along with the annoying laugh of his. he only has three ways of showing Goku's emotions "Happy", "Angry" and "Bored" and he doesn't even possess much range and has same two-three noises to portray Goku's emotions including those "King Kai" grunts of his. Nozawa's Goku is natural in portraying his goofy and serious side. she has a much better range and doesn't overact thus the portrayal comes off as more natural than Sean's try hard tough guy superhero.

I'm not saying Goku can't be voiced by a man, Peter Kelamis is a man but his Goku sounds more like Manchild even while angry or doing screams, while Schemmels Goku always sounds like a gruff manly biker when he's angry. also there's a misconception that "people only like Kelamis because he copied Japanese voice", when in reality Kelamis didn't really sound Japanese in the slightest. He had a thick American accent and used dub terms. He still sounds American. His tone of voice actually fits Goku, though. That's where Sean Schemmel Goku fails in capturing the character, whether we're talking new or old dubs.
as mentioned earlier, he has three emotions that he almost never breaks. Angry, happy, and bored. imo his actual voice doesn't fit Goku in the slightest, and his range when playing the character is standard at best. though he improved a lot in recent years but i can't say he is best.
Nozawa and Kelamis could both play the role. They fit Goku's character, and they're both far better actors, that's what i think.

I thought for a second that you were talking about Mario Castaneda and got a bit crazy. LOL. You rock!

[majinwarman]

There is no one who can do Goku like Nozawa can.

Quoted for truth

There is no point to lie about it.

[ABED]

Do you have an English Goku you like? Looking back, I can't find any really. At least, none that come close to capturing the spirit of the character. Corlett, Kelamis, Morrow, Schemmel, etc. just don't seem to do it. Of course, Kelamis and Schemmel got to work with decent scripts and we saw attempts at the goofy/naive side of Goku but mileage varies on how people feel about the results.

Corlett gets a lot of praise but I just don't see it. Even in instances where the script doesn't affect much, like screams, he sounds flat.

Corlett's not flat, he's subtle. He's too subdued for the character, but I still like his acting nonetheless. Kelamis is awful, Morrow is bland, and Schemmel tries too hard. Schemmel's probably my favorite English speaking Goku, but still nowhere near Nozawa.

There is no one who can do Goku like Nozawa can. By the way, have you watched Super yet? I remember you saying that you haven't watched it yet.

No. Still no interest.

[Ripper 30]

Corlett's not flat, he's subtle. He's too subdued for the character, but I still like his acting nonetheless. Kelamis is awful, Morrow is bland, and Schemmel tries too hard. Schemmel's probably my favorite English speaking Goku, but still nowhere near Nozawa.

Sean's voice nowadays sounds even MORE unfitting, it sounds like he's making it deeper purposefully that's why it's raspy and way too gruff. Totally out of Character for Goku, he isn't some random Tough Guy. when Nozawa deepens her Goku voice in serious scenes, her Goku still sounds like a Serious "Goku" and not a generic tough Guy unlike Sean who makes him sound like a Generic western tough guy with a Gruff tone and nothing "Goku-like" is there in it with the speech pattern lacking hick tone already from the start and only giving more "generic" Superhero feel. also his goofy Goku is forced like i am hearing Mario with the way he forces his deep voice to sound funny along with the annoying laugh of his. he only has three ways of showing Goku's emotions "Happy", "Angry" and "Bored" and he doesn't even possess much range and has same two-three noises to portray Goku's emotions including those "King Kai" grunts of his. Nozawa's Goku is natural in portraying his goofy and serious side. she has a much better range and doesn't overact thus the portrayal comes off as more natural than Sean's try hard tough guy superhero.

I'm not saying Goku can't be voiced by a man, Peter Kelamis is a man but his Goku sounds more like Manchild even while angry or doing screams, while Schemmels Goku always sounds like a gruff manly biker when he's angry. also there's a misconception that "people only like Kelamis because he copied Japanese voice", when in reality Kelamis didn't really sound Japanese in the slightest. He had a thick American accent and used dub terms. He still sounds American. His tone of voice actually fits Goku, though. That's where Sean Schemmel Goku fails in capturing the character, whether we're talking new or old dubs.
as mentioned earlier, he has three emotions that he almost never breaks. Angry, happy, and bored. imo his actual voice doesn't fit Goku in the slightest, and his range when playing the character is standard at best. though he improved a lot in recent years but i can't say he is best.
Nozawa and Kelamis could both play the role. They fit Goku's character, and they're both far better actors, that's what i think.

I thought for a second that you were talking about Mario Castaneda and got a bit crazy. LOL. You rock!

from the many Multi language Dub comparison videos i saw, he's much better than Sean in acting department. he doesn't make his voice gruff, rough and overly angry like some western Superhero but keeps it simple and also, Castenada's style is more or less like Nozawa, very natural and no overacting.

[majinwarman]

Corlett's not flat, he's subtle. He's too subdued for the character, but I still like his acting nonetheless. Kelamis is awful, Morrow is bland, and Schemmel tries too hard. Schemmel's probably my favorite English speaking Goku, but still nowhere near Nozawa.

There is no one who can do Goku like Nozawa can. By the way, have you watched Super yet? I remember you saying that you haven't watched it yet.

No. Still no interest.

Cool. I hope that you at least give it a try one day.

[ABED]

There is no one who can do Goku like Nozawa can. By the way, have you watched Super yet? I remember you saying that you haven't watched it yet.

No. Still no interest.

Cool. I hope that you at least give it a try one day.

If it's available for streaming on something like Hulu, Amazon Prime, or Netflix, then sure.

[Dbzfan94]

No. Still no interest.

Cool. I hope that you at least give it a try one day.

If it's available for streaming on something like Hulu, Amazon Prime, or Netflix, then sure.

It's on Crunchyroll.

[ABED]

Cool. I hope that you at least give it a try one day.

If it's available for streaming on something like Hulu, Amazon Prime, or Netflix, then sure.

It's on Crunchyroll.

I can't find the app on my blu ray player and I don't like watching videos on my computer. The reason I listed those services is because they have other shows and I'm not a big anime fan, not enough to justify a month's subscription just for one series. I've recently become more cost conscious.

[Dbzfan94]

If it's available for streaming on something like Hulu, Amazon Prime, or Netflix, then sure.

It's on Crunchyroll.

I can't find the app on my blu ray player and I don't like watching videos on my computer. The reason I listed those services is because they have other shows and I'm not a big anime fan, not enough to justify a month's subscription just for one series. I've recently become more cost conscious.

If you have a smart phone you can watch it on that. No subscription needed either.

[ABED]

It's on Crunchyroll.

I can't find the app on my blu ray player and I don't like watching videos on my computer. The reason I listed those services is because they have other shows and I'm not a big anime fan, not enough to justify a month's subscription just for one series. I've recently become more cost conscious.

If you have a smart phone you can watch it on that. No subscription needed either.

If I'm not going to watch it on a computer, why would I watch it on my phone? The might be harsher than I intended it, but I want to watch TV on my TV.

[Dbzfan94]

I can't find the app on my blu ray player and I don't like watching videos on my computer. The reason I listed those services is because they have other shows and I'm not a big anime fan, not enough to justify a month's subscription just for one series. I've recently become more cost conscious.

If you have a smart phone you can watch it on that. No subscription needed either.

If I'm not going to watch it on a computer, why would I watch it on my phone? The might be harsher than I intended it, but I want to watch TV on my TV.

Understandable. I totally get that.

[Bajosexto]

Exactly. If you want a performance similar to the Japanese, just watch the Japanese. A good dub voice doesn't have to sound like the original.

But what if I want a performance similar to the Japanese in English? Do I watch the Japanese? But I want to watch it in English.

I agree with the second part of your comment. A dub actor doesn't need to sound like the original actor. But I just don't like the "Just watch the Japanese if that's what you want" type of response. I've seen it thrown around by people trying to justify bad dubbing practices. Arguing that if you want the dub to be the same experience as the original, then you should just watch the Japanese version. Not saying your one of them. Your comment just happens to remind me to those types of comments.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

No. Still no interest.

Cool. I hope that you at least give it a try one day.

If it's available for streaming on something like Hulu, Amazon Prime, or Netflix, then sure.

You could buy the Part Blu-Rays. If you don't like Super you can always sell them when Funimation re-releases it in season sets and get most, if not all of your money back.

[ABED]

Cool. I hope that you at least give it a try one day.

If it's available for streaming on something like Hulu, Amazon Prime, or Netflix, then sure.

You could buy the Part Blu-Rays. If you don't like Super you can always sell them when Funimation re-releases it in season sets and get most, if not all of your money back.

Being on a budget, if I'm going to buy a hardcopy, I'd rather it be for something I know I'm going to like and preferably one that has a bunch of extras.

[PsionicWarrior]

ABED I take it you don't want to stream it illegally, then sure it should be available on broader streaming websites at some point lol

[majinwarman]

I can't find the app on my blu ray player and I don't like watching videos on my computer. The reason I listed those services is because they have other shows and I'm not a big anime fan, not enough to justify a month's subscription just for one series. I've recently become more cost conscious.

If you have a smart phone you can watch it on that. No subscription needed either.

If I'm not going to watch it on a computer, why would I watch it on my phone? The might be harsher than I intended it, but I want to watch TV on my TV.

Nice to know that. I hope that you find a way to watch it.

[ABED]

If it happens, that's great, if not, I'm not lacking for DB material.