Even though I'm not the biggest fan of Naruto or its dub, Blum's Orochimaru is fucking awesome. His Starscream/Green Goblin voice could also fit Freeza.Dbzfan94 wrote:If Steve Blum did something like his Orochimaru but less-snake like, he could pull off Freeza.8000 Saiyan wrote:It is unpopular. Personally, I'd like to see him as either Vegeta, Frieza or Piccolo, although it's unlikely that'll ever happen.ekrolo2 wrote:I don't know how unpopular this is but I'd like for Steve Blum to get another chance at voicing Goku in something while we're on the subject of his English VAs.
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I have watched their fight, and I don't really know what to say. I just don't hear it like you guys do.Ripper 30 wrote:Not really, Furukawa gives piccolo that raw Alien touch I mean compare it to his other humanly roles and its just that Furukawa's voice of piccolo is more smooth than Scott or Sabat but still he doesn't really sound like a normal guy. I mean try watching his Fight Against Son Gokū in 23rd Tenkaichi Tournament and just listen to that sinister Demon laugh and screams of him,no dub actor comes close.nickzambuto wrote:There are only a couple of cases where I prefer the dub actor to the Japanese, and Piccolo is one of them. Furukawa is obviously beloved here on Kanzenshuu, but I just don't get it. I mean, I can tell he's a fine actor, but he doesn't sound like a demon, or even just some alien from a far-off planet. He just sounds like some guy. He'd have been better suited to play Kuririn or something.8000 Saiyan wrote: And Furukawa as well. Sabat's a good actor, but you just can't beat Furukawa.
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Fair enough, but I don't understand how you can hear "demon" in Sabat's perormance either. Sabat's old Piccolo was a constipated Ogre and his new Piccolo is just his speaking voice but even deeper, sure It fit's the stoic attitude but I don't hear anything that I don't in Furukawa. McNeal is the only voice that I would consider demonic.nickzambuto wrote:I have watched their fight, and I don't really know what to say. I just don't hear it like you guys do.Ripper 30 wrote:Not really, Furukawa gives piccolo that raw Alien touch I mean compare it to his other humanly roles and its just that Furukawa's voice of piccolo is more smooth than Scott or Sabat but still he doesn't really sound like a normal guy. I mean try watching his Fight Against Son Gokū in 23rd Tenkaichi Tournament and just listen to that sinister Demon laugh and screams of him,no dub actor comes close.nickzambuto wrote: There are only a couple of cases where I prefer the dub actor to the Japanese, and Piccolo is one of them. Furukawa is obviously beloved here on Kanzenshuu, but I just don't get it. I mean, I can tell he's a fine actor, but he doesn't sound like a demon, or even just some alien from a far-off planet. He just sounds like some guy. He'd have been better suited to play Kuririn or something.
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The more I dissect and think about Battle of Gods across the media (movie, Super, manga) Super is the superior product but movie wins in art and animation.
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Wouldn't that be a no brainer?MaskedRider wrote:The more I dissect and think about Battle of Gods across the media (movie, Super, manga) Super is the superior product but movie wins in art and animation.
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Kanassa wrote:- FoolsGil, Out of Context, 2017FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
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Not for me, BoG the movie is the only thing that's worked out of the new stuff.Kanassa wrote:Wouldn't that be a no brainer?MaskedRider wrote:The more I dissect and think about Battle of Gods across the media (movie, Super, manga) Super is the superior product but movie wins in art and animation.
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I mean as in the movie having better art and animation, you'd expect the product with a bigger budget and higher production values to have superior animation to a TV Showekrolo2 wrote:Not for me, BoG the movie is the only thing that's worked out of the new stuff.Kanassa wrote:Wouldn't that be a no brainer?MaskedRider wrote: movie wins in art and animation.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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Kanassa wrote:- FoolsGil, Out of Context, 2017FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
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I meant as a story it majoratively works as a pretty good piece of Dragon Balls franchise.Kanassa wrote:I mean as in the movie having better art and animation, you'd expect the product with a bigger budget and higher production values to have superior animation to a TV Showekrolo2 wrote:Not for me, BoG the movie is the only thing that's worked out of the new stuff.Kanassa wrote: Wouldn't that be a no brainer?
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Yeah, and that had nothing to do with my comment...ekrolo2 wrote:I meant as a story it majoratively works as a pretty good piece of Dragon Balls franchise.Kanassa wrote:I mean as in the movie having better art and animation, you'd expect the product with a bigger budget and higher production values to have superior animation to a TV Showekrolo2 wrote: Not for me, BoG the movie is the only thing that's worked out of the new stuff.
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
Spoiler:
Kanassa wrote:- FoolsGil, Out of Context, 2017FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
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Actually Furukawa's Taunting Laugh in Fight against Son Gokū in 23rd Budokai Tenkaichi is more like a Demonic Laugh.DragonBallKing wrote:Fair enough, but I don't understand how you can hear "demon" in Sabat's perormance either. Sabat's old Piccolo was a constipated Ogre and his new Piccolo is just his speaking voice but even deeper, sure It fit's the stoic attitude but I don't hear anything that I don't in Furukawa. McNeal is the only voice that I would consider demonic.nickzambuto wrote:I have watched their fight, and I don't really know what to say. I just don't hear it like you guys do.Ripper 30 wrote: Not really, Furukawa gives piccolo that raw Alien touch I mean compare it to his other humanly roles and its just that Furukawa's voice of piccolo is more smooth than Scott or Sabat but still he doesn't really sound like a normal guy. I mean try watching his Fight Against Son Gokū in 23rd Tenkaichi Tournament and just listen to that sinister Demon laugh and screams of him,no dub actor comes close.
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I take it back, he sounds pretty demonic in power ups like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azCpQ-hbPywRipper 30 wrote:Actually Furukawa's Taunting Laugh in Fight against Son Gokū in 23rd Budokai Tenkaichi is more like a Demonic Laugh.DragonBallKing wrote:Fair enough, but I don't understand how you can hear "demon" in Sabat's perormance either. Sabat's old Piccolo was a constipated Ogre and his new Piccolo is just his speaking voice but even deeper, sure It fit's the stoic attitude but I don't hear anything that I don't in Furukawa. McNeal is the only voice that I would consider demonic.nickzambuto wrote: I have watched their fight, and I don't really know what to say. I just don't hear it like you guys do.
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If I had to do a top 10 list, it would be in no particular order:Dragon Ball Ireland wrote:For me the top three would be:8000 Saiyan wrote:I have a hard time choosing a favorite performance in Japanese Z. They're so good.Saikyo no Senshi wrote:Wakamoto's Cell performance in Dragon Ball Z is the best in the entire franchise from a pure acting standpoint. The more I listen to his voice, the more I love it.
Nakao and Nozawa are second, not first anymore as they were before for me.
1. Nozawa
2. Nakao
3. Yanami
In that order.
Wakamoto is up there though, particular for those Kame Hame Ha scenes.
Nozawa
Nakao
Wakamoto
Shioya
Horikawa
Furukawa
Yanami
Gori
Suzuoki
Tsuru
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I agree with list, though I think Shimada deserves an entry.8000 Saiyan wrote:If I had to do a top 10 list, it would be in no particular order:
Nozawa
Nakao
Wakamoto
Shioya
Horikawa
Furukawa
Yanami
Gori
Suzuoki
Tsuru
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Atleast someone recognizes the Talent of Kozo Shioya. I mean that Seiyū voiced all forms of Boo flawlessly and here in dub they needed 2 Voice actors to do that still neither of them did it better than Kozo. From changing is Tone from Goofy fat boo to furious boo or making the voice gruffer and deeper in Super Boo form or totally crazy voice for Kid Boo, Kozo Shioya literally owns Boo. Also it might be a very unpopular opinion but I think the Dub voice for Fat Boo is the worst voice ever, Josh Martin does a horrible voice for Fat boo and its still annoying in Kai TFC Dub.8000 Saiyan wrote:If I had to do a top 10 list, it would be in no particular order:Dragon Ball Ireland wrote:For me the top three would be:8000 Saiyan wrote: I have a hard time choosing a favorite performance in Japanese Z. They're so good.
1. Nozawa
2. Nakao
3. Yanami
In that order.
Wakamoto is up there though, particular for those Kame Hame Ha scenes.
Nozawa
Nakao
Wakamoto
Shioya
Horikawa
Furukawa
Yanami
Gori
Suzuoki
Tsuru
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I don't think Buu having the worst voice in the dub is an unpopular opinion. Personally, I can't decide who's worse: Martin's Buu, Sabat's Recoome or Schemmel's Kaio. Sometimes I wish they could get Frank Welker to voice Buu, he'd be easily better than all English Buus and could pull all of his three forms. Unfortunately he's too expensive.Ripper 30 wrote:Atleast someone recognizes the Talent of Kozo Shioya. I mean that Seiyū voiced all forms of Boo flawlessly and here in dub they needed 2 Voice actors to do that still neither of them did it better than Kozo. From changing is Tone from Goofy fat boo to furious boo or making the voice gruffer and deeper in Super Boo form or totally crazy voice for Kid Boo, Kozo Shioya literally owns Boo. Also it might be a very unpopular opinion but I think the Dub voice for Fat Boo is the worst voice ever, Josh Martin does a horrible voice for Fat boo and its still annoying in Kai TFC Dub.8000 Saiyan wrote:If I had to do a top 10 list, it would be in no particular order:Dragon Ball Ireland wrote:
For me the top three would be:
1. Nozawa
2. Nakao
3. Yanami
In that order.
Wakamoto is up there though, particular for those Kame Hame Ha scenes.
Nozawa
Nakao
Wakamoto
Shioya
Horikawa
Furukawa
Yanami
Gori
Suzuoki
Tsuru
Anyway, here's an unpopular opinion: Yanami's Kaio at his worst is still better than Schemmel's Kaio at his best.
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I think Robbie Rist the English Voice of Choji from Naruto could have done a better Fat Boo than the Torture that Martin's Fat Boo is, David Kaye is a lot better Reacoom than Sabat's cringe inducing Reacoom, Doc Morgan should have taken over The Voice of Kaiō from DBZ Kai onwards and yes it's highly unlikely that FUNimation would go on hiring Frank Welker.8000 Saiyan wrote:I don't think Buu having the worst voice in the dub is an unpopular opinion. Personally, I can't decide who's worse: Martin's Buu, Sabat's Recoome or Schemmel's Kaio. Sometimes I wish they could get Frank Welker to voice Buu, he'd be easily better than all English Buus. Unfortunately he's too expensive.Ripper 30 wrote:Atleast someone recognizes the Talent of Kozo Shioya. I mean that Seiyū voiced all forms of Boo flawlessly and here in dub they needed 2 Voice actors to do that still neither of them did it better than Kozo. From changing is Tone from Goofy fat boo to furious boo or making the voice gruffer and deeper in Super Boo form or totally crazy voice for Kid Boo, Kozo Shioya literally owns Boo. Also it might be a very unpopular opinion but I think the Dub voice for Fat Boo is the worst voice ever, Josh Martin does a horrible voice for Fat boo and its still annoying in Kai TFC Dub.8000 Saiyan wrote: If I had to do a top 10 list, it would be in no particular order:
Nozawa
Nakao
Wakamoto
Shioya
Horikawa
Furukawa
Yanami
Gori
Suzuoki
Tsuru
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That...would fit Buu actually. Good choice.Ripper 30 wrote:I think Robbie Rist the English Voice of Choji from Naruto could have done a better Fat Boo than the Torture that Martin's Fat Boo is, David Kaye is a lot better Reacoom than Sabat's cringe inducing Reacoom, Doc Morgan should have taken over The Voice of Kaiō from DBZ Kai onwards and yes it's highly unlikely that FUNimation would go on hiring Frank Welker.8000 Saiyan wrote:I don't think Buu having the worst voice in the dub is an unpopular opinion. Personally, I can't decide who's worse: Martin's Buu, Sabat's Recoome or Schemmel's Kaio. Sometimes I wish they could get Frank Welker to voice Buu, he'd be easily better than all English Buus. Unfortunately he's too expensive.Ripper 30 wrote: Atleast someone recognizes the Talent of Kozo Shioya. I mean that Seiyū voiced all forms of Boo flawlessly and here in dub they needed 2 Voice actors to do that still neither of them did it better than Kozo. From changing is Tone from Goofy fat boo to furious boo or making the voice gruffer and deeper in Super Boo form or totally crazy voice for Kid Boo, Kozo Shioya literally owns Boo. Also it might be a very unpopular opinion but I think the Dub voice for Fat Boo is the worst voice ever, Josh Martin does a horrible voice for Fat boo and its still annoying in Kai TFC Dub.
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thats my problem with FUNimation casting they are just unwilling to cast the old voices like Kaiō or Fat Boo's Even if it is unbearable.8000 Saiyan wrote:That...would fit Buu actually. Good choice.Ripper 30 wrote:I think Robbie Rist the English Voice of Choji from Naruto could have done a better Fat Boo than the Torture that Martin's Fat Boo is, David Kaye is a lot better Reacoom than Sabat's cringe inducing Reacoom, Doc Morgan should have taken over The Voice of Kaiō from DBZ Kai onwards and yes it's highly unlikely that FUNimation would go on hiring Frank Welker.8000 Saiyan wrote: I don't think Buu having the worst voice in the dub is an unpopular opinion. Personally, I can't decide who's worse: Martin's Buu, Sabat's Recoome or Schemmel's Kaio. Sometimes I wish they could get Frank Welker to voice Buu, he'd be easily better than all English Buus. Unfortunately he's too expensive.
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You mean recasting.Ripper 30 wrote:thats my problem with FUNimation casting they are just unwilling to cast the old voices like Kaiō or Fat Boo's Even if it is unbearable.8000 Saiyan wrote:That...would fit Buu actually. Good choice.Ripper 30 wrote: I think Robbie Rist the English Voice of Choji from Naruto could have done a better Fat Boo than the Torture that Martin's Fat Boo is, David Kaye is a lot better Reacoom than Sabat's cringe inducing Reacoom, Doc Morgan should have taken over The Voice of Kaiō from DBZ Kai onwards and yes it's highly unlikely that FUNimation would go on hiring Frank Welker.
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Unpopular opinion?
Goten could and should matter more than the series allows him to do.
Or maybe the unpopular part isn't the logic, but that a good number of people don't care.
Goten could and should matter more than the series allows him to do.
Or maybe the unpopular part isn't the logic, but that a good number of people don't care.
The NUMBER ONE Goten fan, and a fucking epic one at that.Goten of Japan wrote:Don't go 9... Go 10! (Go-ten. Goten. Get it? DOOD.)