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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Dbzfan94 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:17 pm

hunduel wrote:Kale is objectively more interesting than Broly ever was (and by objectively, I mean she had more screentime to develop from the "KAKAROTTO".
This is subjective. Not a fact. I find Movie 8 Broly far more interesting than Kale.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Cetra » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:23 pm

hunduel wrote: 2. Kale and Caulifla are horrible characters.

Many people criticize them for being "horrible" characters while in fact they are somewhat unique in representing their own archetypes. Kale is objectively more interesting than Broly ever was (and by objectively, I mean she had more screentime to develop from the "KAKAROTTO!" to become something more interesting), and Caulifla is a nice contrast and throwback to what saiyans actually are.
Broly is not just all "Kakarott". That is just an overused cliché that was enhanced through the second movie. Broly is a pretty smart and sadistic ass of a character.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:23 pm

Goku's the only one who earned SS1.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:31 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:Goku's the only one who earned SS1.
Vegeta put himself through hell with his training.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:40 pm

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ekrolo2 wrote:Goku's the only one who earned SS1.
Vegeta put himself through hell with his training.
Vegeta gets it for being a remorseless shit bag who gets mad which is literally the same reason he can't get it on Namek: he's a heartless bastard, meaning that no matter what power he gets or how angry, he shouldn't be able to use SS1. Goku's whole speech is clear in its intent: here's the rules for SS acquisition.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Dbzfan94 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:43 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:Goku's the only one who earned SS1.
Future Trunks did going by the anime.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:44 pm

Dbzfan94 wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:Goku's the only one who earned SS1.
Future Trunks did going by the anime.
Oops, I forgot about him :P
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Kinokima » Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:55 pm

ABED wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:Goku's the only one who earned SS1.
Vegeta put himself through hell with his training.

Vegeta thought he got it because of his intense training and because he had a pure evil heart.

But really he got it because he made love to Bulma lol

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Post by Soppa Saia People » Mon Oct 30, 2017 6:16 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:Goku's the only one who earned SS1.
Is this unpopular ?
Regardless I agree. Outside of Vegeta, everyone else does it like it's nothing, and with Vegeta, it doesn't even make sense. He just pouts until he gets it.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by MaskedRider » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:50 pm

Super is the Neo Tokyo of Dragon Ball

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:16 am

ekrolo2 wrote:
ABED wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:Goku's the only one who earned SS1.
Vegeta put himself through hell with his training.
Vegeta gets it for being a remorseless shit bag who gets mad which is literally the same reason he can't get it on Namek: he's a heartless bastard, meaning that no matter what power he gets or how angry, he shouldn't be able to use SS1. Goku's whole speech is clear in its intent: here's the rules for SS acquisition.
How does he know? He literally had just achieved Super Saiyan. How does he knows it takes a "pure heart"? No one told him, it was a transformation that he didn't intend or even know he could achieve. No one told him the steps. You are taking his words as gospel.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by MR.Mark » Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:30 pm

The Super writers are currently writing Freeza better than Toriyama ever has. (depending on just how much details Toriyama is providing for the writing team)

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Noah » Sat Nov 04, 2017 3:23 pm

hunduel wrote:The episode is "filler" because nothing happened. "Worst episode" by far.
IKR? Like if there's something we could call filler in Super it would be the series as a whole, not just one or another episode.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by MaskedRider » Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:49 pm

In a way I think people who "bring the original down" by comparing moments of Super to Z / DB are showcasing why the originals aren't that great to begin with. I mean, its what people say right? Just because it was bad before doesn't mean its good now?

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by The gr » Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:55 pm

The staff to an extent toyotaro handled future trunks way better than toriyama.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by dbs fanboy » Wed Nov 08, 2017 4:10 pm

SOOOOOOOO..........


I pretty much think that the ToP dispite some issues is doing fine. It has cool fights with good animation, the use of techinique and experience to win some fights despite the power gap is still relevant, some characters had nice interactions (Vegeta with Cabba, Goku with Caulifla, 17 with Ribrianne), other characters got character development like Cabba to an extent, Caulifla, Hit and even Toppo if you want to count his line about "there's no good or evil, only survival or erasure).
The new tracks are good and well placed and FUCKING FREEZA MAN.

It could have been handled better, that's true, there are some characters that needed more focus (looking at you Tien), some fights didn't even seem necessary (looking at you ep 106) .....etc.

But so far, it's been fine imo, thought i hope we get something different soon, like a plot twist or something like that.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Avenant » Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:12 pm

I think that Dragon Ball Super has allowed the series to return to it's roots as a weird, comical and action-packed parody while also blending elements of what made Z so great. By the end of Super, there will be no doubt of it's worthiness as part of the series.
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Post by ABED » Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:58 pm

while also blending elements of what made Z so great
Just Z?
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Post by Avenant » Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:14 pm

ABED wrote:
while also blending elements of what made Z so great
Just Z?
Sorry, by stating "return to it's roots" I was referring to Dragon Ball. I believe that Super is a great blending of the best of DB and the best of DBZ.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by MaskedRider » Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:16 am

Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans > Baby

Not because of it being GT

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