Unpopular DB opinions

[Ripper 30]

Sumitomo's music is perfect for a series like Super. It works for a modernized Dragon Ball which Super is, so I feel it works. Kikuchi is perfect in the OG series and gives a classic atmosphere, but It wouldn't work to set Kikuchi tracks to Super.

I would also add that it is a good fit for the Buu saga because that arc is more playful and doesn't take itself as seriously as the earlier arcs. This is exactly why I love Kai, even with the Kikuchi replacement score because it gives both tones for the first and second parts of the series.

But I still found Kikuchi better because Sumitomo got kind of repetitive in TFC.

[8000 Saiyan]

While they aren't perfect, I prefer Big Green Kaio and Roshi's voices to Funimation's.

Agreed, currently Bang Zoom Dub Kaiō has the best English Voice.

I'll also add that Ocean and Big Green's voices for Kami are also better.

[MarCas92]

Sumitomo's music is perfect for a series like Super. It works for a modernized Dragon Ball which Super is, so I feel it works. Kikuchi is perfect in the OG series and gives a classic atmosphere, but It wouldn't work to set Kikuchi tracks to Super.

I used to think that too, until I saw the Kikuchi cut. No reason Kikuchi wouldn't work in Super.

[DragonBallKing]

When translating a foreign language product into another I prefer a Liberal translation that gets the underlined meaning of the statement but isn't a literal translation. Kai's dub isn't as accurate as people make it out to be, It takes lots of Liberties to make the dialogue sound natural but it still keeps the message behind the dialogue. Take all of Majin Vegeta's dialouge in TFC dub for example.

[Ripper 30]

When translating a foreign language product into another I prefer a Liberal translation that gets the underlined meaning of the statement but isn't a literal translation. Kai's dub isn't as accurate as people make it out to be, It takes lots of Liberties to make the dialogue sound natural but it still keeps the message behind the dialogue. Take all of Majin Vegeta's dialouge in TFC dub for example.

FUNimation takes a lot more liberty with scripts when dubbing Dragon Ball compared to their other dubs.

[8000 Saiyan]

When translating a foreign language product into another I prefer a Liberal translation that gets the underlined meaning of the statement but isn't a literal translation. Kai's dub isn't as accurate as people make it out to be, It takes lots of Liberties to make the dialogue sound natural but it still keeps the message behind the dialogue. Take all of Majin Vegeta's dialouge in TFC dub for example.

FUNimation takes a lot more liberty with scripts when dubbing Dragon Ball compared to their other dubs.

Some of the liberties they do with other dubs are rather questionable:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEXurYaIHao

[DragonBallKing]

When translating a foreign language product into another I prefer a Liberal translation that gets the underlined meaning of the statement but isn't a literal translation. Kai's dub isn't as accurate as people make it out to be, It takes lots of Liberties to make the dialogue sound natural but it still keeps the message behind the dialogue. Take all of Majin Vegeta's dialouge in TFC dub for example.

FUNimation takes a lot more liberty with scripts when dubbing Dragon Ball compared to their other dubs.

It definitely depends on who the script writer is, Funimation has some good writers and bad writer's. The good writers know how to get the intended message of the Japanese dialogue accross naturally to an English speaker and if necessary change jokes that would be lost on an English speaker so it's still funny. Bad writers are either to direct in their translation so the dialogue sounds unnatural and wooden or they make unnecessary changes or additions to the dialogue that only divide fans of a series.

[DragonBallKing]

When translating a foreign language product into another I prefer a Liberal translation that gets the underlined meaning of the statement but isn't a literal translation. Kai's dub isn't as accurate as people make it out to be, It takes lots of Liberties to make the dialogue sound natural but it still keeps the message behind the dialogue. Take all of Majin Vegeta's dialouge in TFC dub for example.

FUNimation takes a lot more liberty with scripts when dubbing Dragon Ball compared to their other dubs.

Some of the liberties they do with other dubs are rather questionable:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEXurYaIHao

I'm surprised they didn't fire the guy who wrote that, really gives modern Funi a bad name.

[8000 Saiyan]

FUNimation takes a lot more liberty with scripts when dubbing Dragon Ball compared to their other dubs.

Some of the liberties they do with other dubs are rather questionable:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEXurYaIHao

I'm surprised they didn't fire the guy who wrote that, really gives modern Funi a bad name.

And despite this change, dub fans defend it.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

When translating a foreign language product into another I prefer a Liberal translation that gets the underlined meaning of the statement but isn't a literal translation. Kai's dub isn't as accurate as people make it out to be, It takes lots of Liberties to make the dialogue sound natural but it still keeps the message behind the dialogue. Take all of Majin Vegeta's dialouge in TFC dub for example.

A good dub is not meant to be a literal translation, it is supposed to give the viewer the same experience, but in a different language. Kai's dub does just that because, unlike the Z dub the characters are written exactly as they are in the Japanese version with the same motives, strengths and flaws.

[ABED]

I don't think Kai took that many liberties. The dialog and what I read in the subtitles was very close.

[Dbzfan94]

When translating a foreign language product into another I prefer a Liberal translation that gets the underlined meaning of the statement but isn't a literal translation. Kai's dub isn't as accurate as people make it out to be, It takes lots of Liberties to make the dialogue sound natural but it still keeps the message behind the dialogue. Take all of Majin Vegeta's dialouge in TFC dub for example.

Literal translations aren't always the best. In Persona 5 for example, there's a few instances where the characters complain about not being able to speak or read English very well (or at all.) In the Japanese, that's totally fine. But when they dub it, and the characters are speaking perfect English, it just comes off as super awkward.

[8000 Saiyan]

Yeah aside from a few liberties, the Kai dub is pretty accurate.

[DragonBallKing]

When translating a foreign language product into another I prefer a Liberal translation that gets the underlined meaning of the statement but isn't a literal translation. Kai's dub isn't as accurate as people make it out to be, It takes lots of Liberties to make the dialogue sound natural but it still keeps the message behind the dialogue. Take all of Majin Vegeta's dialouge in TFC dub for example.

Literal translations aren't always the best. In Persona 5 for example, there's a few instances where the characters complain about not being able to speak or read English very well (or at all.) In the Japanese, that's totally fine. But when they dub it, and the characters are speaking perfect English, it just comes off as super awkward.

Translating something like that is tricky, but it can be done, see Steins Gate or Black Lagoon.

[Esfír Dedragón]

I'm not necessarily impressed with the new character, Android 21

In fact, I'm not sure whether I feel indifferent or hate it. :/

I think it's the realization that, despite only appearing in Dragon Ball FighterZ, there are too many questions about how and why this character could exist in the franchise.

[Ripper 30]

When translating a foreign language product into another I prefer a Liberal translation that gets the underlined meaning of the statement but isn't a literal translation. Kai's dub isn't as accurate as people make it out to be, It takes lots of Liberties to make the dialogue sound natural but it still keeps the message behind the dialogue. Take all of Majin Vegeta's dialouge in TFC dub for example.

FUNimation takes a lot more liberty with scripts when dubbing Dragon Ball compared to their other dubs.

Some of the liberties they do with other dubs are rather questionable:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEXurYaIHao

That's why I watched it in Japanese.

[DragonBallKing]

FUNimation takes a lot more liberty with scripts when dubbing Dragon Ball compared to their other dubs.

Some of the liberties they do with other dubs are rather questionable:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEXurYaIHao

That's why I watched it in Japanese.

Other than a few questionable changes it's not a bad dub, at least from an acting standpoint.

[Ripper 30]

Some of the liberties they do with other dubs are rather questionable:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEXurYaIHao

That's why I watched it in Japanese.

Other than a few questionable changes it's not a bad dub, at least from an acting standpoint.

I just tend to watch anime in Japanese by default and find most of them better in it.

[Noah]

And as much as I hate the Garlic Jr. arc, it does provide a reasonable amount of time between Freeza's defeat and Freeza's return. In the manga, it is literally all in the same chapter.

And that's one of the things I love most in the anime, while some people may gripe with fillers, the time transitions are better than the manga (RR arc to 22nd TB arc, Piccolo Daimao arc to 23rd TB arc, Saiyan arc training, etc.)

Sumitomo's music is perfect for a series like Super. It works for a modernized Dragon Ball which Super is, so I feel it works. Kikuchi is perfect in the OG series and gives a classic atmosphere, but It wouldn't work to set Kikuchi tracks to Super.

You say that thinking about old DB/Z tracks, but I don't see how Kikuchi couldn't do new tracks, even his remixed tracks would fit just fine in Super.

I used to think that too, until I saw the Kikuchi cut. No reason Kikuchi wouldn't work in Super.

What cut?

[MarCas92]

I used to think that too, until I saw the Kikuchi cut. No reason Kikuchi wouldn't work in Super.

What cut?

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