DBGT- why so many ending songs?
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DBGT- why so many ending songs?
DB had only 1 ending song and one op after about 150 eps.
DBZ, with nearly 300 episodes, had two eds and ops.
DBGT.... with only 64 episodes had 1 opening and 4 ending songs.
Why so many ending songs? Did fans simply consider the first 3 to be crap or was it the rise of an emerging trend to put in lots of op/ed songs in animes? (One Piece has at least 15 now)
DBZ, with nearly 300 episodes, had two eds and ops.
DBGT.... with only 64 episodes had 1 opening and 4 ending songs.
Why so many ending songs? Did fans simply consider the first 3 to be crap or was it the rise of an emerging trend to put in lots of op/ed songs in animes? (One Piece has at least 15 now)
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Re: DBGT- why so many ending songs?
I think it was the commercial aspect, getting to plug more songs by featuring them in the endings.
I like it however. The songs are great and the ending animations do a great job of accompanying the music. Not to mention that DragonBall Z's first ending animation was already outdated after about 30 episodes in by featuring crybaby Gohan.
I like it however. The songs are great and the ending animations do a great job of accompanying the music. Not to mention that DragonBall Z's first ending animation was already outdated after about 30 episodes in by featuring crybaby Gohan.
Re: DBGT- why so many ending songs?
I kind of liked the consistency of using the same song. It gives it a different feel from the multitude of ops/eds some animes have. "Oh, that's the DBZ ending song." Not, "okay that's the song for this arc, and this is the song for that arc", it kind of keeps any songs from being "definitive" for the series. (except maybe the absolute first ones) Head Cha La definitely defines DBZ more than the first ops to Naruto or Bleach seem to for their animes.
Ugh, don't get me started on Bleach, while some are brilliant a lot were garbage.
DBZ's last ed kind of gets outdated near the end, of course.
I guess Japanese executives found a way to help sell more music and DBZGT lasted so long that it showed the evolution of this behavior?
Ugh, don't get me started on Bleach, while some are brilliant a lot were garbage.
DBZ's last ed kind of gets outdated near the end, of course.
I guess Japanese executives found a way to help sell more music and DBZGT lasted so long that it showed the evolution of this behavior?
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Re: DBGT- why so many ending songs?
Yeah, it's a trend that had just started to pick up in the 90's. Music industry gives money to the cartoon industry, and the fans of whichever cartoon must buy the shows many "theme songs"; Both industries benefit.
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Re: DBGT- why so many ending songs?
One thing I'll add- the first ed song kind of gets outdated pretty quick once the "zany space adventures" saga ends and they spend more time on earth.
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Re: DBGT- why so many ending songs?
The animation could have been updated; Romantic Ageru Yo had four different animations.
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Scsigs: "Y'know, it actually makes sense that they waited till today to announce [the 30th Anniversary] set. It's Akira Toriyama's birthday."
Shaddy: "I too want my legacy destroyed as a birthday gift."
Viz Release Censorship Guide
Scsigs: "Y'know, it actually makes sense that they waited till today to announce [the 30th Anniversary] set. It's Akira Toriyama's birthday."
Shaddy: "I too want my legacy destroyed as a birthday gift."
Re: DBGT- why so many ending songs?
Maybe it was also a desperate ploy to increase ratings? I know Toei execs must have been panicking at the 50% drop in ratings. (or whatever GT had)
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Re: DBGT- why so many ending songs?
Those songs are the few good things about GT.
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Re: DBGT- why so many ending songs?
Unfortunately, this is true. For me, even the BGM is only good if it's a variation of one of the theme songs. :/
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Scsigs: "Y'know, it actually makes sense that they waited till today to announce [the 30th Anniversary] set. It's Akira Toriyama's birthday."
Shaddy: "I too want my legacy destroyed as a birthday gift."
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Re: DBGT- why so many ending songs?
I've never seen Dragon Ball from start to finish but one opening only?
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What about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrnMYCW0B2c
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Re: DBGT- why so many ending songs?
Agreed. The songs and the ending...as in I legitimately like the ending, not as in, "thank God it's over."penguintruth wrote:Those songs are the few good things about GT.
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Re: DBGT- why so many ending songs?
Sure the animation changed, but it's still the exact same song.dbboxkaifan wrote:I've never seen Dragon Ball from start to finish but one opening only?
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Re: DBGT- why so many ending songs?
If I remember correctly DBZ had two different CHA-LA-HEAD-CHA-LA openings, one with normal Goku and the other with Super Saiyan Goku.
So it makes like, three openings for DBZ.
So it makes like, three openings for DBZ.
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Re: DBGT- why so many ending songs?
Actually DBZ's CHA-LA opening had three different animations alone, and then some film special animations as well (and a neat video game opening for one of the older games.dbboxkaifan wrote:If I remember correctly DBZ had two different CHA-LA-HEAD-CHA-LA openings, one with normal Goku and the other with Super Saiyan Goku.
So it makes like, three openings for DBZ.
Re: DBGT- why so many ending songs?
Oh, Head Cha La changed right at episode 200?
Did that happen to the beginning of a new "13 week season?" That's usually when animes switch up the songs, but it sounds like they said, "oh well" and just did it for 200 to celebrate what was then the longest-running shonen series of all time. (I think? It had to have been, esp. counting the first DB series)
Did that happen to the beginning of a new "13 week season?" That's usually when animes switch up the songs, but it sounds like they said, "oh well" and just did it for 200 to celebrate what was then the longest-running shonen series of all time. (I think? It had to have been, esp. counting the first DB series)
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Re: DBGT- why so many ending songs?
I actually love that there's so many closings in GT. The openings and closings were among the best parts of the series, and since the series doesn't have an enormous amount going for it, multiple closings are no issue in my eyes.
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Re: DBGT- why so many ending songs?
I don't mind. I really do not like GT all that much, but one thing it did have going for it was the music. All of them were great. If I'm not mistaken, most if not all of the ending songs featured were from popular artists of the time, or popular songs.. you can tell. At least I know Blue Velvet was.
Re: DBGT- why so many ending songs?
I had trouble watching GT, and even skipped a few eps, but the epic soundtrack helped me stick it through.
Thankfully the last 10-12 eps of the show are of DBZ-quality.
Thankfully the last 10-12 eps of the show are of DBZ-quality.
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Re: DBGT- why so many ending songs?
No, that would be #195 or #208. Episode #200 was likely chosen because it had the most number of changes to the cast and it was also the two hundredth episode.GS7X7 wrote:Oh, Head Cha La changed right at episode 200?
Did that happen to the beginning of a new "13 week season?" That's usually when animes switch up the songs, but it sounds like they said, "oh well" and just did it for 200 to celebrate what was then the longest-running shonen series of all time. (I think? It had to have been, esp. counting the first DB series)
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Re: DBGT- why so many ending songs?
It was also probably because it was such a huge time gap, and so much had changed.
The Many English Dubs of DB, DBZ, and DBGT
Viz Release Censorship Guide
Scsigs: "Y'know, it actually makes sense that they waited till today to announce [the 30th Anniversary] set. It's Akira Toriyama's birthday."
Shaddy: "I too want my legacy destroyed as a birthday gift."
Viz Release Censorship Guide
Scsigs: "Y'know, it actually makes sense that they waited till today to announce [the 30th Anniversary] set. It's Akira Toriyama's birthday."
Shaddy: "I too want my legacy destroyed as a birthday gift."