Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Saiga » Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:51 pm

I think I prefer his GT hairstyle over his EOZ hairstyle honestly. It's weird, but once you get used to it, it's very unique. Exactly what he needed after being a Goku clone. Just look at how weird Goku's hair is, anyway.

His EOZ hairstyle to me looks fairly generic and doesn't look like it'd look good as a Super Saiyan. I've seen one piece of fan art that does his EOZ hair really well as a Super Saiyan, but that's it.

edit: I got ninja'd, but his hair absolutely stands out from Gohan. No-one has hair like Goten, the difference is clear even when it stands up in Super Saiyan... depending on the animator.

Vegeta and Gohan have more similarity in GT. I think Gohan never should have lost his single front bang.

Actually, now I'm wondering how Goten's GT hair would look with bangs.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:52 pm

Basaku wrote:How does it stand out? Half of the time it not even possible to tell him apart from Gohan lol. EOZ works for him because he uses it in 'adult' form while Gohan was using it in kid "form". Adult Gohan mostly has his "iconic" style locked (which of course Akira tries to mess up now lol).
It is vaguely similar to Gohan's Boo arc hair (and I guess then remotely similar to Yamcha's Android arc hair, kinda), but...tilted...to the left? I dunno, there's just something about it that I've always found much more aesthetically pleasing than his longer hair from the end of the manga.

Regardless of what kind of hairstyle he gets though, I do hope we get to see an older Goten/Trunks in this movie. Everything we've started to get further on for this film seems to be going against the 'alternate universe' theory, they'd have to be there somewhere I would think. And the way they've been hiding them up until now speaks volumes, I'd like to think.
As for Yamcha, well, basically every character has ripped one of his hairstyles at this point. He's a trend setter :P
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:52 pm

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Chuquita wrote:teenage character designs for Goten and Trunks. :3
Don't worry, even if they do Toriyama will ruin Goten with some new bad hairstyle (like his GT design...) instead of the flawless EOZ design :problem:
I've seen a lot of people express this, so I know I'm in the minority here, but I...I don't get it. I really don't. :? Goten's EOZ hair to me is just another 'long haired' design, similar to Saiyan arc Yamcha or early Androids arc Gohan. His GT hair at least stands out amongst the various other spikey haired designs, and I've always kinda liked it myself.

Not trying to say people aren't entitled to disliking the GT hair, mind you. I just don't see what's so bad about it is all.
His hair does NOT stand out in DBGT. Not at all. 3 characters had similar or same haircut. Vegeta, Goten, and Gohan. His EOZ was also NOTHING like Yamcha hair cut. It's actually have more differences than similar. The only thing similar is that the hair is down. EoZ Goten is actually the best design of the Z fighters. His GT haircut was terrible. 0/10.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Basaku » Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:55 pm

Saiga wrote:I think I prefer his GT hairstyle over his EOZ hairstyle honestly. It's weird, but once you get used to it, it's very unique. Exactly what he needed after being a Goku clone. Just look at how weird Goku's hair is, anyway.

His EOZ hairstyle to me looks fairly generic and doesn't look like it'd look good as a Super Saiyan. I've seen one piece of fan art that does his EOZ hair really well as a Super Saiyan, but that's it.
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U can't even tell him apart in half shots from Gohan lol. It's not good for him, it's already "the" style for Gohan (with 1 strand in front or not), making it slight skewed is still way too similar. His EOZ design made him stand out from Goku and Gohan (and Yamcha at that point as well).

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Fukkatsu no F"

Post by Saiga » Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:05 pm

I can easily tell them apart. And that's with them standing so close there hair literally bleeds together.

Like I said, Gohan never should have lost the bang, but even with that it's very easy to tell them apart. Goten's EOZ hair just doesn't stand out and looks like something Yamcha would wear.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:13 pm

Goten's EOZ hair just doesn't stand out and looks like something Yamcha would wear.
No...it doesn't. Goten hair at EOZ only had 1 similar thing to Yamcha. It's down. There is litteraly no other similar thing about it.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:17 pm

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Goten's EOZ hair just doesn't stand out and looks like something Yamcha would wear.
No...it doesn't. Goten hair at EOZ only had 1 similar thing to Yamcha. It's down. There is litteraly no other similar thing about it.
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Post by NitroEX » Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:26 pm

I think Goten's EoZ hair was better. It fell in line with the character traits we'd seen from him as a kid and judging from that he'd likely turn out much closer to Goku than Gohan did. Goku wouldn't care about style or keeping his hair tidy and it's hard to imagine Goten would either (Given what we saw of him as a child). Of course Toei didn't care about Goten's previous personality and made him the complete opposite in GT to what he was in Z which isn't totally unbelievable given the time skip but.. it's just unrecognizable as Goten except in name only. IMO that's a bad decision to make in a series with such large time skips and no backstory to fill in the gaps. Trunks is a perfect example of doing it the right way, very subtle change of hairstyle and despite any rapid change in appearance and personality you still know immediately who it is regardless of if you'de previously seen the Android arc or not.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:32 pm

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Besides him, the Z fighters and their family & friends are the only one who really knows about them. I didn't bring up Pilaf since he stop being a threat after the Piccolo Daiamo. Not to mention the Z fighters pretty much forgotten about him since no one recognized him at Bluma's party in BOG.
And the RRA survivors, as I mentioned in my above post. Violet and Tao, at the very least.
We don't even know if the RRA survivors, Violet and Tao are even alive? They most likely died from Buu and never got wish backed. Tao was a very evil person, his chances on being wished back are very low.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:34 pm

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Besides him, the Z fighters and their family & friends are the only one who really knows about them. I didn't bring up Pilaf since he stop being a threat after the Piccolo Daiamo. Not to mention the Z fighters pretty much forgotten about him since no one recognized him at Bluma's party in BOG.
And the RRA survivors, as I mentioned in my above post. Violet and Tao, at the very least.
Super Buu killed them along with the remaining billion or so Earthlings when he fired the Human Extinction Attack. Though, I guess if even Vegeta can be revived because he's not considered as evil as Babidi and co, then Tao and Violet could too.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Dec 24, 2014 11:53 pm

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Besides him, the Z fighters and their family & friends are the only one who really knows about them. I didn't bring up Pilaf since he stop being a threat after the Piccolo Daiamo. Not to mention the Z fighters pretty much forgotten about him since no one recognized him at Bluma's party in BOG.
And the RRA survivors, as I mentioned in my above post. Violet and Tao, at the very least.
Super Buu killed them along with the remaining billion or so Earthlings when he fired the Human Extinction Attack. Though, I guess if even Vegeta can be revived because he's not considered as evil as Babidi and co, then Tao and Violet could too.
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Post by NitroEX » Thu Dec 25, 2014 12:00 am

Isn't the "password" just "Eternal Dragon, by your name, I summon you forth: Shenron!"?

(At least that was what I think they say in the dub)

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Post by Chuquita » Thu Dec 25, 2014 12:14 am

It was mentioned a few pages back, but I don't think it was ever answered/translated into English; what's Freeza's full "Merry Christmas" message on the dragonball2015 site say?
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Post by Basaku » Thu Dec 25, 2014 12:18 am

I wonder if Toei will do a proper world-wide release this time. Considering how much money the Battle of Gods STILL made despite extremly limited & botched international release. They're sitting on a goldmine

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Post by Herms » Thu Dec 25, 2014 12:53 am

NitroEX wrote:Isn't the "password" just "Eternal Dragon, by your name, I summon you forth: Shenron!"?

(At least that was what I think they say in the dub)
Characters pretty much just say anything that amounts to "come forth Shenlong", sometimes with "and grant my wish" stuck in there somewhere, but sometimes not. There definitely doesn't seem to be a specific set of words that must be used or else Shenlong won't appear. In the movies it seems like they do always say pretty much the same thing each time, but even then, there's no suggestion that you have to use those exact words. It's a bit weird in the Namek arc when Kuririn goes "oh, Freeza must not know the password" for the Namekian dragon balls, as if that were a standard feature with the Earth balls, when actually nothing like that is mentioned before then. But I guess Kuririn's never been around to see the balls used firsthand before (not in the main series anyway, but I guess in DBZ movie 3), so maybe he just assumes there must be some sort of standardized chant or whatever.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:26 am

...and I think you just blew my mind there, Herms. I totally didn't realize that Kuririn actually never does see a Dragon summoned until Namek, so the first time isn't even with his own home planet's Dragon Balls. That's...actually kind of bizarre to think about.

I remember mention being made once upon a time about a 'wish guide', which I now presume might be something that would be on the future Wiki; perhaps that'd be something neat to note on those entries as well, who exactly was present when each wish was made.
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Post by Saiga » Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:30 am

Wasn't Porunga's password just his name? So Shenron would be the same.
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Post by ABED » Thu Dec 25, 2014 1:41 am

Saiga wrote:Wasn't Porunga's password just his name? So Shenron would be the same.
That's not really true. I know it's the name of the episode but there's slightly more to it than that. There's not so much a password as it is just using the Namekian language. Oddly enough, Porunga himself speaks English/Japanese.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Dec 25, 2014 2:23 am

Basaku wrote:I wonder if Toei will do a proper world-wide release this time. Considering how much money the Battle of Gods STILL made despite extremly limited & botched international release. They're sitting on a goldmine
I think we will get another limited release here in the US. Foreign movies rarely get big releases in the US since Hollywood feels like that there's not a big market for them. BOG did well for a DBZ movie in the US and did everything on what you can expect for a anime film based on a 25+ TV series from Japan.
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Post by Attitudefan » Thu Dec 25, 2014 7:28 am

Herms wrote:
NitroEX wrote:Isn't the "password" just "Eternal Dragon, by your name, I summon you forth: Shenron!"?

(At least that was what I think they say in the dub)
Characters pretty much just say anything that amounts to "come forth Shenlong", sometimes with "and grant my wish" stuck in there somewhere, but sometimes not. There definitely doesn't seem to be a specific set of words that must be used or else Shenlong won't appear. In the movies it seems like they do always say pretty much the same thing each time, but even then, there's no suggestion that you have to use those exact words. It's a bit weird in the Namek arc when Kuririn goes "oh, Freeza must not know the password" for the Namekian dragon balls, as if that were a standard feature with the Earth balls, when actually nothing like that is mentioned before then. But I guess Kuririn's never been around to see the balls used firsthand before (not in the main series anyway, but I guess in DBZ movie 3), so maybe he just assumes there must be some sort of standardized chant or whatever.
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