A RTD-style DVD set with the Original Toonami Edited dub

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Re: A RTD-style DVD set with the Original Toonami Edited dub

Post by Dogasu » Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:40 pm

I personally think a set collecting the Toonami edit of Dragon Ball would be more interesting. The edited version of the fight against the Invisible Man alone would be worth it.
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Re: A RTD-style DVD set with the Original Toonami Edited dub

Post by LordCrumb » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:19 am

Dogasu wrote:I personally think a set collecting the Toonami edit of Dragon Ball would be more interesting. The edited version of the fight against the Invisible Man alone would be worth it.
Have you seen that episode? how did they edit around Bulma getting her top yanked down?

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Re: A RTD-style DVD set with the Original Toonami Edited dub

Post by Dogasu » Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:09 am

It's been years and years since I've seen the episode, hence the desire to rewatch the edited version. I assume they cut that part out, though.

I do remember tomato juice being a big part of the edit, though.
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Re: A RTD-style DVD set with the Original Toonami Edited dub

Post by Kakacarrottop » Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:43 am

B wrote: I'm honestly all for this. Embrace your past and fuck the revisionist bullshit that is the Orange Bricks, and I guess every release that contains FUNimation's version of episodes 1-67.
Does it really matter if it's "revisionist bullshit"?, as long as people out there, from any walk of life, enjoyed it, then the company that helped make it (Toei, FUNi, Ocean, Saban etc.) did their job. I mean the "Entertainment industry" is called the "Entertainment industry" for a reason. I for one am going to enjoy "fictional entertainment" for what it is.
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Re: A RTD-style DVD set with the Original Toonami Edited dub

Post by Super Sonic » Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:00 am

Dogasu wrote:It's been years and years since I've seen the episode, hence the desire to rewatch the edited version. I assume they cut that part out, though.

I do remember tomato juice being a big part of the edit, though.
From what I remember, they added lines about them going on a picnic before Goku grabbed them and had him throw tomato juice they had on him. Scene I heard was from the Devil princess movie, though I never saw that one.

On topic, don't see this happening as not a market for it.

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Re: A RTD-style DVD set with the Original Toonami Edited dub

Post by 90sDBZ » Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:35 am

LordCrumb wrote: The 'original' dub isn't on the Funimation singles. There are three dubs (with minor differences).
1. The Original TV Dub (the one that substituted Mr Satan for the H-Word)
2. The Uncut Singles Dub
3. The 'Remastered Dub' which features some changes.

Just to clarify for myself, as I am not really familiar with Toonami, we are talking about the Funimation Dub eh?
I know there are minor differences. What I really want is just to own a version containing all of the original performances such as Sabat's original Vegeta performance and Dale Kelly as the Narrator, the old intros and such. I know they replaced Kelly as the Narrator during the Cell Games on the Uncut singles. I suppose the Edited version that aired on Toonami US would be ideal as a a follow up to the RtD set. But I'd be happy to settle for the Uncut version too, as long as they included all the Recaps, NEPs and Eyecatches.

Come to think of it couldn't they include the old dubs of the movies too? It would make sense seeing as the RtD set did the same. Also wasn't there an unreleased version of Cooler's Revenge containing the Faulconer score?

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Re: A RTD-style DVD set with the Original Toonami Edited dub

Post by theoriginalbilis » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:32 am

It's an interesting idea for a collector's item, but the edited Toonami dub as aired from 1999-2003/4 isn't THAT much different from the uncut dub on the home video releases.

Yeah, some footage was cut out and different voices were used for the initial TV broadcast, but the uncut dub w/ Faulconer score track is still like 90% the same as what aired on Toonami.

The FUNi/Madman single DVDs from the early 2000's are your best bet as far as getting "that" version.
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Re: A RTD-style DVD set with the Original Toonami Edited dub

Post by B » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:40 am

Kakacarrottop wrote:Does it really matter if it's "revisionist bullshit"?
To me it does. The Orange Bricks are filled with added or redone lines that weren't apart of the original Toonami broadcast or even on the single disc releases. Hell, "Season 3" had Vegeta, Gohan, and Krillin completely redubbed but left Schemmel's then-Goku performance. It's a frankenstein project of the highest order.
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Post by dbboxkaifan » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:22 pm

Most if not all FUNimation/Toonami fans have called it a day once they got the Orange Bricks as per some have said "it's like watching back then" so those same fans couldn't careless for a Toonami RtD-edition.

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Re: A RTD-style DVD set with the Original Toonami Edited dub

Post by Kakacarrottop » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:25 pm

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Kakacarrottop wrote:Does it really matter if it's "revisionist bullshit"?
To me it does. The Orange Bricks are filled with added or redone lines that weren't apart of the original Toonami broadcast or even on the single disc releases. Hell, "Season 3" had Vegeta, Gohan, and Krillin completely redubbed but left Schemmel's then-Goku performance. It's a frankenstein project of the highest order.
The original broadcast version still does exist, i mean surely someone's parents taped it onto VHS back in the day for them after school or in the morning and can digitally transfer it, so i don't really see the problem for people who want to relive childhoods or who want a more coherent 1999 dub. As for the Orange Brick Season 3 set being a 'frankenstein' entity, well there's still the Kai dub for people who want a consistent and better acted English dub of the Namek arc. The thing is, i think FUNi don't want to release anything that will make their "in-house" (read semi-pro) actors look bad (eg Season 3 how it originally was.) I mean they'll gladly release the highly butchered/censored original English DBZ dub featuring the Ocean cast for a quick nostalgia buck though.
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Re: A RTD-style DVD set with the Original Toonami Edited dub

Post by NitroEX » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:41 pm

Funimation redubbed it because they realized how terrible it sounded. Which is probably the same reason it was never and will never be released on DVD.

Early Christopher Sabat in particular is just pure comedy and only gets worse with age. You just can't take it seriously with dialogue like this, and screams like this.

Honestly I find it ridiculous that despite there being so much unreleased material still out there people want yet another slight variation of an already released Funimation dub.

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Post by eledoremassis02 » Sun Jan 04, 2015 1:32 pm

There is nostalgia and the fact that it runs up against the ocean dub much better :D
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Re: A RTD-style DVD set with the Original Toonami Edited dub

Post by B » Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:00 pm

Kakacarrottop wrote:stuff
I'm definitely not saying it's impossible to find DBZ dub episodes 68-276 in single form if you look hard enough, but the idea that what's on the Orange Bricks is what aired on TV is patently false.
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Re: A RTD-style DVD set with the Original Toonami Edited dub

Post by Kakacarrottop » Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:05 pm

B wrote:
Kakacarrottop wrote:stuff
I'm definitely not saying it's impossible to find DBZ dub episodes 68-276 in single form if you look hard enough, but the idea that what's on the Orange Bricks is what aired on TV is patently false.
They don't claim to be that. They just claim to be a 'remastered' English version of the show. The dub on that box set is just a typical mediocre dub by the budget dubbing studio FUNimation aimed at the sheeple who attack any other Dragon Ball related dub that doesn't feature their in-house "talent".
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Re: A RTD-style DVD set with the Original Toonami Edited dub

Post by clutchins » Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:43 pm

People are saying that it's not different enough from the uncut version they have now, but the mere fact that it's different at all is what matters because it would pick up right where Rock the Dragon left off. It would be a seamless transition for people who already own that set. And they could house it in similar packaging to the RTD set to set it apart from their "standard" uncut Blu-rays and Orange Bricks at least visually. The only thing that I can't really foresee is the episode count/how they would split it up if necessary.

Also, anybody saying that they'd rather have the uncut footage like on the singles instead of the edited version should read my previous post about that. It has to do with NEPs for condensed episodes. The uncut versions of those episodes will not work for releasing NEPs, so the only way to pull it all off faithfully is to release the edited footage.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Jan 04, 2015 3:55 pm

Most American DBZ fans seem to hate watching things edited anyways since they all seem to hated Kai on CW and Nick Toons a few years back. I also remember fans wanted uncut episodes of the Saiyan saga and the first half of the Namek saga for the longest time until Ultimate Uncut came out in 2005.
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Post by bkev » Sun Jan 04, 2015 6:55 pm

The Japanese DragonBox sets had a bonus feature that showed off some of the more ridiculous edits made in the early days of the FUNimation dub as still frames. I'd be interested in seeing some of the digital edits and the process that went behind them as a bonus feature on a domestic release - particularly ones like Krillin's impalement, or again, tomato juice (or better, Mad Cow) - but a whole set? No thank you.
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Re: A RTD-style DVD set with the Original Toonami Edited dub

Post by Super Sayian Prime » Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:34 pm

2005:
"YES, Dragon Ball Z is finally going to be available uncut from the very beginning!"

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"FUNIMATION, WHERE IS THE EDITED VERSION OF DRAGON BALL Z???"

This is a super obscure request.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:18 am

^Indeed it is. I remember during the early to mid 2000's, DBZ fans on the web always bought the episodes uncut and I rarely see people bought them edited unless they had strict parents or don't like seeing a tiny drop of blood. I do admit that I did bought a few episodes of DBZ edited on VHS because they were cheaper and I didn't know about the bootleg tapes at the time.
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Post by clutchins » Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:45 am

I know this whole idea sounds rather counterintuitive as far the uncut version goes, but I just want the lost Dale Kelly narration and this is the most complete, faithful way to do it. :)
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