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A RTD-style DVD set with the Original Toonami Edited dub

Post by clutchins » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:17 pm

The only thing I want to see from Funimation in the next year or two, and I've detailed this is another thread, is a nostalgia cash-in DVD set not unlike Rock the Dragon that includes the entirety of the Toonami dub with the edited version of the episodes to boot.

Distinguishing features would include:
  • The "edited" dub that was only released on VHS, along with the edited video for the sake of faithfulness and continuity with the edited RTD set
    The same quality remastering given to the video for the Rock the Dragon set that faithfully retained the colors of the old DVDs
    The RTD OP and ED for Episodes 54-102 with Funimation Credits, the first Faulconer OP and ED for 103-179, and the second Faulconer OP and ED for 180-276
    The missing Ginyu Saga recaps that were never included on the 2000 DVDs
    The original Dale Kelly narrated-recaps for the Cell Games Saga that got the shaft on the 2004-05 DVDs for when Kyle Hebert was in the process of redubbing the narration
    The TV-runtime lengths for certain episodes like Episode 54, which was extended to 30 minutes to make up for the previous Ocean dub episode gap
    The heavily edited Episode 65 when Krillin is impaled by Freeza
    The incredibly-rare Dale Kelly Eyecatch that aired in Ireland (probably unlikely, but it would fit)
    The missing Dale Kelly closing narration for Episode 104 that never made it to the DVD for some reason
    The long list of unreleased Cartoon Network-aired NEPs narrated by either Sean Schemmel or Dale Kelly
    The two TV specials narrated by Dale Kelly in their original soundtrack mixes with all the songs relicensed, mirroring the inclusion of the three Ocean dub movies in the RTD set
I imagine a set like this would have to be split up into two or three portions, but I also think that it could be some sort of comprehensive collector's edition, limited-run item that is only available for pre-order, maybe even made-to-order. And the only thing I can't really think of is the name for it. "Original Toonami Version" isn't catchy enough, but that's why I'm not a marketing guy.

Would this be something that fans of the dub would like to see? I sure would because I hate the redub. It's like the George Lucas Special Edition of Dragon Ball Z.
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Original Thread Topic wrote:Did Dragon Ball ever motivate you to exercise?
No, why would it? It's fiction. The strength of the characters is not possible to reach in reality.
I mean, you're pretty open about looking at cartoon porn. Why would you do that? It's fiction. The proportions of these women are not possible to reach in reality.

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Re: A RTD-style DVD set with the Original Toonami Edited dub

Post by 90sDBZ » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:37 pm

100% yes. I'd buy it as long as the price for the entire thing wasn't ridiculous.

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Post by MarcFBR » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:45 pm

There isn't nearly enough of a market to do this.

There was a market to do it with the initial batch of Ocean episodes because there is something noticeably different with those and there is a market for those episodes (even if it isn't massive.)

The vast majority of people who watch the dub with the replaced soundtrack on DVD or BD will not notice any difference between that and 'as aired on TV.'
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Post by Codarik » Sat Jan 03, 2015 5:55 pm

I'd be willing to pay an insanely large amount of money for a set like that, doubt FUNi will ever make or release it, a man can dream though.

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Re: A RTD-style DVD set with the Original Toonami Edited dub

Post by LordCrumb » Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:38 pm

90sDBZ wrote:100% yes. I'd buy it as long as the price for the entire thing wasn't ridiculous.
The Rock the Dragon Set still sells on Amazon from $US45-75 (new, not marketplace).. Something like this would be the same price if not more.

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Re: A RTD-style DVD set with the Original Toonami Edited dub

Post by clutchins » Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:51 pm

LordCrumb wrote:
90sDBZ wrote:100% yes. I'd buy it as long as the price for the entire thing wasn't ridiculous.
The Rock the Dragon Set still sells on Amazon from $US45-75 (new, not marketplace).. Something like this would be the same price if not more.
I imagine something like this would be at least $150 to make up for all the DVDs they would have to include and the packaging to house them all.
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JacobYBM wrote:
Original Thread Topic wrote:Did Dragon Ball ever motivate you to exercise?
No, why would it? It's fiction. The strength of the characters is not possible to reach in reality.
I mean, you're pretty open about looking at cartoon porn. Why would you do that? It's fiction. The proportions of these women are not possible to reach in reality.

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Re: A RTD-style DVD set with the Original Toonami Edited dub

Post by LordCrumb » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:11 pm

I don't see the reason why someone would want an Edited version of Dragon Ball Z? I can understand all the original NEP, Previous Episode narration and eye catches and what not, but to have the actual episodes edited for violence.. no thank you. The old Pioneer DVDs and Rock the Dragon sets are their own thing for a certain market, and i'm happy to own those episodes the way they originally aired, but once Funimation started doing Uncut episodes.. i'd rather have those.

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Re: A RTD-style DVD set with the Original Toonami Edited dub

Post by clutchins » Sat Jan 03, 2015 7:16 pm

LordCrumb wrote:I don't see the reason why someone would want an Edited version of Dragon Ball Z? I can understand all the original NEP, Previous Episode narration and eye catches and what not, but to have the actual episodes edited for violence.. no thank you. The old Pioneer DVDs and Rock the Dragon sets are their own thing for a certain market, and i'm happy to own those episodes the way they originally aired, but once Funimation started doing Uncut episodes.. i'd rather have those.
I honestly feel like they owe us the original dub that was on TV and this is the only way to faithfully put it out. And because it's edited, it wouldn't compete with the uncut version of the show on Blu-ray.
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Kamiccolo9 wrote:
JacobYBM wrote:
Original Thread Topic wrote:Did Dragon Ball ever motivate you to exercise?
No, why would it? It's fiction. The strength of the characters is not possible to reach in reality.
I mean, you're pretty open about looking at cartoon porn. Why would you do that? It's fiction. The proportions of these women are not possible to reach in reality.

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Re: A RTD-style DVD set with the Original Toonami Edited dub

Post by Kakacarrottop » Sat Jan 03, 2015 8:21 pm

I grew up watching that dub here in Australia via different avenues and i'm sure a lot of people hold nostalgia for it but it really wasn't all that good so it doesn't really warrant home video release. I mean the original Ocean dub that aired on Toonami in America actually had some very good music and acting so a rerelease for it was justified with the RTD set, the original FUNi dub that aired on Toonami though was mainly made by amateurs. Also it probably won't sell that well due to it being too similar to the redubs which are found on popular releases such as the Orange Bricks, the Blu-Ray sets etc.
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Post by MarcFBR » Sat Jan 03, 2015 8:27 pm

clutchins wrote:I honestly feel like they owe us
You need to get past that type of attitude or else life will be very unkind to you.

They owe you nothing, and will only sell you what they believe is worth their effort (in both time and money) to try and sell.
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Re: A RTD-style DVD set with the Original Toonami Edited dub

Post by 90sDBZ » Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:17 pm

LordCrumb wrote:
90sDBZ wrote:100% yes. I'd buy it as long as the price for the entire thing wasn't ridiculous.
The Rock the Dragon Set still sells on Amazon from $US45-75 (new, not marketplace).. Something like this would be the same price if not more.
I bought the RtD set and would be glad to spend that same amount again, but not if they were to release episodes 54-276 through several sets with each costing that amount. Nobody could afford to spend that much. If we're talking roughly the same price or even double for the rest of the series in one single set then count me in.

I wouldn't mind so much about it being edited or uncut. I'd just like to own the original dub in full without collecting the singles.

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Re: A RTD-style DVD set with the Original Toonami Edited dub

Post by LordCrumb » Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:55 pm

90sDBZ wrote:
LordCrumb wrote:
90sDBZ wrote:100% yes. I'd buy it as long as the price for the entire thing wasn't ridiculous.
The Rock the Dragon Set still sells on Amazon from $US45-75 (new, not marketplace).. Something like this would be the same price if not more.
I bought the RtD set and would be glad to spend that same amount again, but not if they were to release episodes 54-276 through several sets with each costing that amount. Nobody could afford to spend that much. If we're talking roughly the same price or even double for the rest of the series in one single set then count me in.

I wouldn't mind so much about it being edited or uncut. I'd just like to own the original dub in full without collecting the singles.
The 'original' dub isn't on the Funimation singles. There are three dubs (with minor differences).
1. The Original TV Dub (the one that substituted Mr Satan for the H-Word)
2. The Uncut Singles Dub
3. The 'Remastered Dub' which features some changes.

Just to clarify for myself, as I am not really familiar with Toonami, we are talking about the Funimation Dub eh?

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:20 pm

Edited DBZ episodes won't sell very now these days outside of nostalgia. The people who grew up watching DBZ want to watch DBZ uncut and not edited. I remember the days of people wanting the series fully uncut with proper subs. DBZ was edited and uncut on VHS because that was a different time. At the time, you had edited episodes made for kids watching DBZ on TV for parents who where not so sure about watching the show uncut and the uncut VHS tapes are made for the older fans who want to watch it uncut. Not to mention the DVD market didn't became big until around 2002 or 2003.
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Re: A RTD-style DVD set with the Original Toonami Edited dub

Post by eledoremassis02 » Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:29 pm

It would be cool, but i think i might just get ginyu and frieza exited tapes and digitize them to dvd

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Post by Dbzfan94 » Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:33 pm

I'm sorry but I never understood the point of selling what is basically an obsolete, edited version of a show that we already have 2 superior uncut versions. (Uncut Z and Uncut Kai)

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Post by Kakacarrottop » Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:39 pm

Dbzfan94 wrote:I'm sorry but I never understood the point of selling what is basically an obsolete, edited version of a show that we already have 2 superior uncut versions.
We also have a Japanese version which is much better than the two "superior uncut versions" which are trying their best to imitate said version. Honestly i'd rather watch FUNi's terrible original in-house DBZ dub over their Kai dub since it actually feels different to the (obviously superior) Japanese version, i don't want 2 or 3 versions of the same show/dub.
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Post by LordCrumb » Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:40 pm

eledoremassis02 wrote:It would be cool, but i think i might just get ginyu and Freeza exited tapes and digitize them to dvd
I forgot about the Edited VHS releases. The only thing I would be interested in is knowing what dialog was replaced/changed in each episode.

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Post by Tatakae!!Ramenman » Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:48 pm

I would want a release like this for episode recaps and next episode previews, but I already own all of the edited VHS tapes and VHS is still very watchable. I also don't get the episode interrupted by an eyecatch on the VHS tapes. I would definitely want this for the next episode previews and recaps, but I don't think there are enough people who even know about this difference, and even less people who care, but it would be really cool.
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Post by clutchins » Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:01 pm

The only way to actually release the NEPs from Toonami is to put out the show in an edited format because of the two episodes I mentioned (54 and 65). Episode 65 was condensed from two uncut episodes to one to make a sort of hour-long single episode with particular cuts to the Krillin impalement scene, so there is only one NEP for that whole episode because of it. And 54, like I mentioned, is a little off in terms of the "uncut" content of the episode because of the previous episode dubbed by the Ocean group ending in the middle of the corresponding Japanese episode, so the NEP applies to this time-shifted episode and not the uncut one found on the DVD.
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Kamiccolo9 wrote:
JacobYBM wrote:
Original Thread Topic wrote:Did Dragon Ball ever motivate you to exercise?
No, why would it? It's fiction. The strength of the characters is not possible to reach in reality.
I mean, you're pretty open about looking at cartoon porn. Why would you do that? It's fiction. The proportions of these women are not possible to reach in reality.

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Re: A RTD-style DVD set with the Original Toonami Edited dub

Post by B » Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:11 pm

Why would you want edited versions? I mean, of course, a 276-episode version of DBZ is edited, but that version is uncut visually.

I'm honestly all for this. Embrace your past and fuck the revisionist bullshit that is the Orange Bricks, and I guess every release that contains FUNimation's version of episodes 1-67.
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