I don't want to sound as if I'm against the existance of gay characters, but these types of topics always tend to get people triggered in some way. I just don't like the new counter culture of today where people want to insert and force themselves into things they like rather than just allowing or encourage new things to be made in their consideration. Like what modern sub-cultural Feminists do. Insert =/= Invert. Characters/media aren't credited for being well written while a minority. Instead they have to be praised for being one. Thats what would have happened if Whis was outed in his creation rather than not creating the token bias.Basaku wrote:What are you? I mean, you were the one who acted as if Toriyama needs defending from demands like if gay fans were picketing in front of his house
I'm sure thats not what the poster intended, but it just came across as one of those types of things. I just don't know where this can go at this point. Either people can tolerate Gay characters or they don't. I don't see that fight happening here.
Fair enough.Basaku wrote:Nothing needs to be proritized and there's no huge effort here. Grown-up Bra is walking down the street with her girlfriend in DBS and a new villain attacks Earth, commence 20 episodes of fighting. The point is in hoping that gay characters in DB will exist in other forms than solely dated western (or eastern) stereotypes.
Well no "average" gay characters are opernly confirmed. If they revealed Zarbon was gay, would that change anything? The only character seems to be accepted as legitamently gay is when they are overexaggerated.Basaku wrote:Yet next to Kammesenin or Oolong there are also 'average straight Joes' like Gohan. No reason why straight characters can exist both as gag characters and normal relevant characters yet gay characters can get relegated exclusively to the former.
#17, and Tenshinhan could have very well been introverted and gay if their heterorelationships don't seem to progress anywhere relevant to their development. Especially for #17.fadeddreams5 wrote:Well, Toriyama did say 17 is a park ranger, married, and has kids.AM Reflection wrote: There's nothing that contradicts the idea of 17, Chiaotzu or Marron being gay, for example.
Marron is a little girl. By EoZ, she's prob still too young to know her orientation.
And Chiaotzu is perpetually a child, and treated as such.
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