Do you get bothered seeing dub names?

[Kamiccolo9]

If the forums/site didn't want anything to do with the dub, maybe dub discussion should have been banned entirely from the getgo. But obviously that wasn't the case, so the dub is discussed here regularly.

There's a big difference between discussing the dub and using the dub as a basis for discussion. If you want to do the latter, well, that's what the Dragon Ball wiki is for.

[dario03]

If the forums/site didn't want anything to do with the dub, maybe dub discussion should have been banned entirely from the getgo. But obviously that wasn't the case, so the dub is discussed here regularly.

There's a big difference between discussing the dub and using the dub as a basis for discussion. If you want to do the latter, well, that's what the Dragon Ball wiki is for.

There's also a difference between posting a dub name of a character and claiming something happened because it was said in the dub.

[Kunzait_83]

Per the original thread question:

Mostly seeing dub names has always just been plain old confusing: its much the same as I'm sure seeing Japanese version names are for dub fans, just in reverse.

These characters and mystical martial arts techniques have ALWAYS been named Son Goku, Kuririn/Kulilin, Tenshinhan, Freeza/Freezer, Muten Roshi/Kamesennin, Mr. Satan, Kaioshin, Paikuhan, Kienzan, Makankosappo, Genkidama, Shunkan Idou, etc. since as far back as I can recall with this series forever and ever ago. The Room of Spirit and Time has been a name I've known and associated closely with Dragon Ball Z since 1992/1993. Hyperbaric whateverthefuck has always been awkward, painfully forced, and has never, ever been able to even come close to sticking with me since that first cropped up in 2000-whenever.

And believe it or not, its actually become even MORE confusing for me in all the years following since the very, very early-most 2000s, long after the peak-height of the dub's initial pop cultural fervor finally died down: when I figured these sorts of awkward dub-isms would, like the dub itself, just eventually dissipate and fade away like so many other terrible artifacts and detritus of bad pop culture trends and fads long past.

[precita]

And believe it or not, its actually become even MORE confusing for me in all the years following since the very, very early-most 2000s, long after the peak-height of the dub's initial pop cultural fervor finally died down: when I figured these sorts of awkward dub-isms would, like the dub itself, just eventually dissipate and fade away like so many other terrible artifacts and detritus of bad pop culture trends and fads long past.

That's rather odd. The dub was one of CN's most watched shows and introduced millions of Americans to DBZ.

There was no way the dub, its voices, or its names would ever be forgotten about in the english speaking fandom.

[jjgp1112]

And when you see people making posts using the dub names instead of the original, do you think lowly of them because they're likely trying to make a point based on inaccurate dub scripts than what was intended?

Kind of...? But not actively? I don't know.

Especially when the word filter was active, seeing someone intentionally go around it just seemed to scream "I'm going to intentionally be ignorant. I know it's wrong but I don't care." That's not a great attitude to have about anything. You come off as antagonistic when you do this.

I can't speak for anyone, but to me it was more of just my way of showing my opinion that the filter was kinda silly and pointless to begin with. Frieza, Freeza; tomayto, tomahto, I say.

On a regular forum where it was customary to use the sub names, I'd probably change my personal spellings to suit the discussion, but on here the filter was forced in a way that came off as obnoxious to me, so I didn't want to fly with it.

Edit: So what rereboy covered on the last page, basically. I didn't like the filter so I blew it off. Now was it the right thing to do? Probably not. But it was a bad policy to begin with.

[Hellspawn28]

Anyone else hate the name "Great Ape"? I get why they didn't use the name "Monkey" since "Great Monkey" won't be taken seriously. I think calling it normally "Oozaru" still have work back in 1996.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Anyone else hate the name "Great Ape"? I get why they didn't use the name "Monkey" since "Great Monkey" won't be taken seriously. I think calling it normally "Oozaru" still have work back in 1996.

I've kind of wondered about that too. The dub could have easily just treated Oozaru as an alien word, something the Saiyans themselves called it. That would have been simple enough.

[B]

"Great Ape" is not really a "dub term" so much as it's a loose translation of "Oozaru". "Great Ape" as a proper noun really only exists in the video games. As far as the dub of the actual show is concerned, "oozaru" doesn't exist. The characters alternate between using "giant monkey" and "monster"... And, if memory serves correctly, sometimes "beast" depending on the script, but these are never treated as proper titles or transformations. It's usually just a statement; "When Goku looks up at the full moon, he becomes a monster!" Nobody talks about it like it's Super Saiyan.

There's nothing wrong with "Great Ape." It's twice as good as "World Martial Arts Tournament" and a billion times more palatable than "Instant Transmission", "Tri-Beam", or "Hyperbolic Time Chamber." And again, I'm 99% sure "Great Ape" is never used in dub-dialog ever anyway.

[The Time Traveller]

I don't get bothered seeing dub names, only when I don't know who they're talking about but you can just look at the wikia if you don't know certain character's names.

[Hellspawn28]

There's nothing wrong with "Great Ape." It's twice as good as "World Martial Arts Tournament" and a billion times more palatable than "Instant Transmission", "Tri-Beam", or "Hyperbolic Time Chamber." And again, I'm 99% sure "Great Ape" is never used in dub-dialog ever anyway.

I recall in both Ultimate Uncut and Kai that Vegeta said "I will turn into a Great Ape and crush him!".

[ABED]

Great Ape" is not really a "dub term" so much as it's a loose translation of "Oozaru". "Great Ape" as a proper noun really only exists in the video games. As far as the dub of the actual show is concerned, "oozaru" doesn't exist. The characters alternate between using "giant monkey" and "monster"... And, if memory serves correctly, sometimes "beast" depending on the script, but these are never treated as proper titles or transformations. It's usually just a statement; "When Goku looks up at the full moon, he becomes a monster!" Nobody talks about it like it's Super Saiyan.

You sure about that? Is Oozaru lower case or always upper case.

[Lunatic Fringe]

Not at all since I'd be a hypocrite to do so. I'm still in the process of assimilating into the original version by using the original names but I still have quite a bit of work to do since I still use "Bulma", "Spirit Bomb", "Saiyan" and the FUNi dub Shadow Dragon names rather frequently among a few other misspellings like "Buu" and "Ox King".

[Soppa Saia People]

Not at all since I'd be a hypocrite to do so. I'm still in the process of assimilating into the original version by using the original names but I still have quite a bit of work to do since I still use "Bulma", "Spirit Bomb", "Saiyan" and the FUNi dub Shadow Dragon names rather frequently among a few other misspellings like "Buu" and "Ox King".

From what I can tell Bulma isn't wrong but the way they pronounce it is. Buu is completely fine however.

[precita]

I'm surprised the whole "Android 17 and 18" names stuck to this very day, even into Kai. They never call them artificial humans in the dub, ever.

[Lunatic Fringe]

I'm surprised the whole "Android 17 and 18" names stuck to this very day, even into Kai. They never call them artificial humans in the dub, ever.

I don't like the term "Artificial Human" at all so I just refer to them as #17 & #18 respectively. To add onto my previous post, I still call the Ginyu Tokusentai by their FUNi dub names for some reason.

[Kuririn Fan]

Not at all since I'd be a hypocrite to do so. I'm still in the process of assimilating into the original version by using the original names but I still have quite a bit of work to do since I still use "Bulma", "Spirit Bomb", "Saiyan" and the FUNi dub Shadow Dragon names rather frequently among a few other misspellings like "Buu" and "Ox King".

Only Bulma is left for me. I don't think i'll ever call her Blooma, but i want to be kanzentai fan, sooo...

[Kunzait_83]

Not at all since I'd be a hypocrite to do so. I'm still in the process of assimilating into the original version by using the original names but I still have quite a bit of work to do since I still use "Bulma", "Spirit Bomb", "Saiyan" and the FUNi dub Shadow Dragon names rather frequently among a few other misspellings like "Buu" and "Ox King".

Bulma's not at all a dub name: Toriyama himself spelled it that way back at the very beginning of the whole series via writing it out that way in English on her shirt.

Saiyan as a spelling isn't a FUNimation creation, but the pronunciation (Say-an rather than S-eye-an) certainly is. Spirit Bomb's definitely dub-ism, as is whatever the crap they named the evil dragons from GT: those're all completely pulled from their ass. Buu on the other hand is a perfectly usable spelling that long well predates them. Ox King is like... a partial, half a translation of Gyuumao (where they conspicuously leave out the "demon" aspect of his title).

[Lunatic Fringe]

Not at all since I'd be a hypocrite to do so. I'm still in the process of assimilating into the original version by using the original names but I still have quite a bit of work to do since I still use "Bulma", "Spirit Bomb", "Saiyan" and the FUNi dub Shadow Dragon names rather frequently among a few other misspellings like "Buu" and "Ox King".

Bulma's not at all a dub name: Toriyama himself spelled it that way back at the very beginning of the whole series via writing it out that way in English on her shirt.

Saiyan as a spelling isn't a FUNimation creation, but the pronunciation (Say-an rather than S-eye-an) certainly is. Spirit Bomb's definitely dub-ism, as is whatever the crap they named the evil dragons from GT: those're all completely pulled from their ass. Buu on the other hand is a perfectly usable spelling that long well predates them. Ox King is like... a partial, half a translation of Gyuumao (where they conspicuously leave out the "demon" aspect of his title).

Ah, I see. I just see "Saiyan" and I associate it with the wrong pronunciation so I tried to stick with Saiya-jin. One thing I don't get is why there isn't a hyphen separating "Ma" and "Jin" in "Majin" like I see in "Saiya-jin". To call my familiarity with the Japanese language elementary would be an insult to elementary school children but shouldn't the hyphen be there?

[VegettoEX]

One thing I don't get is why there isn't a hyphen separating "Ma" and "Jin" in "Majin" like I see in "Saiya-jin". To call my familiarity with the Japanese language elementary would be an insult to elementary school children but shouldn't the hyphen be there?

Plenty of people over time have written it as "Saiyajin" without the hyphen, and on the other hand, plenty of people have also written it as "Ma-jin" over time with the hyphen.

[precita]

What about Dabura? I always liked the way that was pronounced in english.