Things that grind your gears

[The Patrolman]

You know what grinds my gear? When people use DBZA as an actual argument to discredit the series

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

Certain parts of the fandom pushing the narrative of Gohan being the main character and taking over Goku's role in DBZ, which at best was only true in the Majin Bu Arc at to the final battle.

[LightBing]

Certain parts of the fandom pushing the narrative of Gohan being the main character and taking over Goku's role in DBZ, which at best was only true in the Majin Bu Arc at to the final battle.

It's not a narrative. It's was the intention from Mr.Toriyama but he changed his mind.
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/intended-end/boo/

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

Certain parts of the fandom pushing the narrative of Gohan being the main character and taking over Goku's role in DBZ, which at best was only true in the Majin Bu Arc at to the final battle.

It's not a narrative. It's was the intention from Mr.Toriyama but he changed his mind.
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/intended-end/boo/

I still stand correct, the narrative was true on the Majin Bu Arc. My point was about fans pushing that narrative as far back as the first chapter/episode Gohan is introduced.

[LightBing]

Certain parts of the fandom pushing the narrative of Gohan being the main character and taking over Goku's role in DBZ, which at best was only true in the Majin Bu Arc at to the final battle.

It's not a narrative. It's was the intention from Mr.Toriyama but he changed his mind.
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/intended-end/boo/

I still stand correct, the narrative was true on the Majin Bu Arc. My point was about fans pushing that narrative as far back as the first chapter/episode Gohan is introduced.

People do that? I guess that's moderately irritating if the person you're talking to knows the author.
If they don't it's not a ridiculous conclusion to make. There's quite a few patterns that might make one think that. Of course passing theories as facts is just wrong, a simple google search about the author would make it clear that him planning something so far out is unlikely to say the least.

[Dbzfan94]

People (including many on this very site) who waste so much time and effort constantly talking about things they hate instead of the things they like. Whether it be DBS, the dub, the sub, music or whatever else.

[ekrolo2]

When someone tells me something happens in a story because plot, yeah, no fucking shit! That's what every piece of fiction ever does, if the plot needed it, the Trojans would check the horse and notice it was a trap and stop it the same way the plot needs them to bring it in and get killed for it: it's what the narrative is about. This applies to eeeevvvveerrrryyyytttttthhhhhiiiinnnngggg!

It's not a defense or excuse for writing decisions, it's what writing is! Making stuff happen through characters & events for a certain purpose. It's the job of a story to mask "Protagonist gets a new power up because the plot needs him to" as "Goku unlocks a long thought legendary form of an alien prophecy because a psychopath just murdered his best friend to beat up said, psychopath".

How the actual fuck any mouth breathing moron thinks this in ANY way is an excuse or explanation or justification for anything in fiction is beyond me.

[ABED]

Amen, sir. I wouldn't put it in those terms, but I get the intent.

[DragonBallKing]

People (including many on this very site) who waste so much time and effort constantly talking about things they hate instead of the things they like. Whether it be DBS, the dub, the sub, music or whatever else.

Just a way to get things that bother me a bit of my chest bro , anyway hate and criticism are different things and while there are blind haters out there most I see on this site provide actual criticism for why they dislike something. I'm fine with actual criticism because it promotes discussion.

[Dbzfan94]

People (including many on this very site) who waste so much time and effort constantly talking about things they hate instead of the things they like. Whether it be DBS, the dub, the sub, music or whatever else.

Just a way to get things that bother me a bit of my chest bro , anyway hate and criticism are different things and while there are blind haters out there most I see on this site provide actual criticism for why they dislike something. I'm fine with actual criticism because it promotes discussion.

Critcism is fine. But some people (not naming names) just incessantly hate on specific things about this series so much; like instead of repeating yourself for the 1200th time how about talk about what you like? (Not you specifically, just in general.)

[Forte224]

People (including many on this very site) who waste so much time and effort constantly talking about things they hate instead of the things they like. Whether it be DBS, the dub, the sub, music or whatever else.

Just a way to get things that bother me a bit of my chest bro , anyway hate and criticism are different things and while there are blind haters out there most I see on this site provide actual criticism for why they dislike something. I'm fine with actual criticism because it promotes discussion.

Exactly. There will always be unpleasant people (like a certain post I read somewhere nearby that used the term "mouth breathing moron") but for the most part this site is pretty tame. Letting a select few get to you just isn't worth it in my experience. Understandable, but not worth it.

[ABED]

Use of the term "flanderize" and phrases along the lines of "... because, reasons," "... because, plot," and other variations.

[Dbzfan94]

Use of the term "flanderize" and phrases along the lines of "... because, reasons," "... because, plot," and other variations.

Yeah, i hate the argument of "they're as strong as the plot demands them to be" in that moment, regardless if it makes sense or not.

[Sykin]

Here's a couple of mine:

-Most people that complain about bad writing
I don't actually have a problem with calling out bad writing when it's there but more often than not it's usually just someone upset that the story didn't go the way they hoped it would.

-People that continue to say Super is predictable
To a degree this isn't necessarily untrue but I've yet to see anyone actually predict the end of an arc or specifics. Most of the time people's predictions are accurate it's usually when we have several episode summaries and a NEP.

-When people say "because the plot demands it"
Well I mean, yeah. That's kind of how stories usually work.

-When people take a screenshot of characters in the background of an off frame and post it to social media complaining about how Super's animation is garbage
Thankfully this doesn't happen as much as it used to but it's still pretty annoying when people do this. It's not even animation! It's art!

[ABED]

-When people say "because the plot demands it"
Well I mean, yeah. That's kind of how stories usually work.

This could mean the writer "solved" the problem of the plot but didn't realized the character was acting out of character. So they didn't really solve the plot issue because plots are what characters do.

[Sykin]

Another thing that grinds my gears is when people take DBZA stuff as canon. Don't get me wrong, I like TFS but some people take it a little too seriously. I've seen people say that they consider DBZA more canon than AT's original work. I don't know why but that really rubs me the wrong way.

[Kanassa]

Another thing that grinds my gears is when people take DBZA stuff as canon. Don't get me wrong, I like TFS but some people take it a little too seriously. I've seen people say that they consider DBZA more canon than AT's original work. I don't know why but that really rubs me the wrong way.

When people blame TFS for fans being morons

[Dbzfan94]

Another thing that grinds my gears is when people take DBZA stuff as canon. Don't get me wrong, I like TFS but some people take it a little too seriously. I've seen people say that they consider DBZA more canon than AT's original work. I don't know why but that really rubs me the wrong way.

When people blame TFS for fans being morons

It is partly their fault though; the fans are just majority at fault. They're sheep.

[Gligarman]

Here's something that gets to me on a more personal level, the constant censorship of the manga particularly all of the Black characters. Someone either at Shueisha or Viz has decided that Black people aren't allowed to have lips. I get what they were going since Toriyama's design choices aren't exactly the most politically correct but a disclaimer would have been more appropriate clarifying that no harm was intended. I can't believe they did this despite the fact that the anime is more popular and is available completely uncensored.

Also misinformed youtubers who do Dragon Ball videos. As someone that exclusively sticks with either the manga or the Japanese version of the anime I can't help but get annoyed when I hear so many different gross factual errors. I remember cringing pretty hard when I saw one video claim that "in the original anime Goku hated fighting and only did it when he had to."

[Bajosexto]

It grinds my gears that to this day we still don't have a SINGLE Dragon Ball game dubbed in Latin American Spanish. Not one game. You guys are very lucky to have every freaking game dubbed in English. (Since Budoukai 1 of course) Everyone in Latin America wanted a dub for FighterZ, but it seems like what we want doesn't matter to Bandai. The sad part is that instead of boycotting FighterZ and sending the message to Bandai that we will not buy this game unless it's dubbed, most people will just buy it anyways. Like I said, you guys are very, VERY, lucky to get every DB game dubbed.